/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18835597
A street cart is the best place. Whiz is traditional and you'll get made fun of if you don't, but regular cheeze ofc tastes better.

>>18835597
There was place near my brothers when I visited called Stockyard Sandwich Co. that was pretty good, not exactly traditional, other stuff they have is good too, mostly very convenient

>>18835618
i don't give a shit how you eat
>>18835597
they all taste pretty much the same so if you find a place that's cheap and doesn't look like a rathole then it's probably going to be pretty good
and I prefer wiz

>>18835597
Ever tried a handful of shark shit?

>>18835597
John's Roast Pork, ironically enough

>>18835618
>Whiz is traditional
Except whiz wasn't invented when cheesesteaks were first made. Whiz was first added by Geno's to cater to Midwestern tourists who were dismayed that Pat's didn't serve theirs with the Whiz and Velveeta they were used to. After Geno's exploded in popularity with tourists, Pat's was forced to follow suit or go under. It got so bad for Pat's that all of their satellite locations had to close, leaving only the original one at 9th and Passyunk in South Philadelphia. They had a location on South Street, another on Ridge Ave in Roxborough/Manayunk and a third somewhere in Southwest Philadelphia (forgot where). The Ridge Ave location is sorta still open, but on Henry Ave and under different ownership, now called d'Alessandro's. The Ridge Ave location is actually where cheesesteak was first made in the late 1950s, several years before Whiz was even invented never mind sold in stores. Prior to that, it was just "steak sandwich" with no cheese.

>you'll get made fun of if you don't
No.

>>18835597
Any take away pizza joint in South Philly. If you're already close to Pat's/Geno's, J&J is about a block up 9th street from there and made decent cheesesteaks last time I was there over 15 years ago. Otherwise, don't go out of your way for one. Really, just about any place that isn't Pat's, Geno's, Oregon, Tony Luke's, Jim's or Phil's will be good.

>prov or whiz
Depends what you like. Whiz is for tourists and people from Northeast Philadelphia (IE tourists) and provolone is traditional while non-white people tend to prefer American cheese.

>>18835629
Oh, yeah. True. I forgot they existed. Also ironic, but Nick's Roast Beef has much better roast pork than their roast beef.

Provolone
American or whiz is fine if that's all you can get but they're never going to be as good

>>18835668
D'ALESSANDRO'S USED TO BE PAT'S? Bro I had no fucking idea, what?

>>18835597
You're welcome

>>18835668
>>18835748
>>18835866
Dalessandro's is Reddit: The Cheesesteak. Do not waste your time hiking up to Roxborough because some larper wants to pretend that it is their secret spot for a ground beef sandwhich

>>18835956
Its not a secret spot you mongoloid it's good

>>18835996
>Out of the way location
>Le authentic Italian name
>Totally not a tourist trap like evil Pat's and Geno's!
Reddit cheesesteak

>>18836012
Italian name = reddit, kek

>>18835956
But >>18835668 literally said not to go out of your way for a cheesesteak and since DALESSANDRO'S isn't anywhere any tourist would actually visit, that would obviously fall under the "out of your way" banner and OP is therefore advised to not go there. You fucking idiot.

>>18835748
>D'ALESSANDRO'S USED TO BE PAT'S?
Similarly, Sneed's was formerly owned by Chuck.

>>18835668
>Really, just about any place that isn't Pat's, Geno's, Oregon, Tony Luke's, Jim's or Phil's will be good.
>Popular = bad

>>18836015
Yes, please check out my authentic, out-of-the-way Cheesesteak place :) Notice how I picked that instead of one of the tourist traps. That is because I am a real local, I know the true spots ;)

>>18835668
>Whiz was first added by Geno's to cater to Midwestern tourists who were dismayed that Pat's didn't serve theirs with the Whiz and Velveeta they were used to.
Don't blame your bad taste on us. I've lived all my life in the Midwest, and have never been served a cheesesteak with Cheez Whiz, nor have I ever seen it offered with it. You chose to put that shit on your sandwiches all on your own.

>>18835618
nobody in philly makes fun of how you eat a cheesteak
that's purely flyover shit

>>18836044
Not remotely. Even those places are pretty decent. Just not at the wait times and pricing offered, you sillybilly.

>>18835597
>What's the best place in Philly to get a steak?
Probably Walmart.

>>18836072
Oregon is absurdly fast

>>18835597
>Provolon or whiz
Why not both? Also put some extra steak on there too.

>>18835618
>Whiz is traditional
NO! Philly cheese steaks were a thing long before wiz was even invented

>>18835668
seconding this. basically any pizza place can make a good cheesesteak so don't waste time waiting in a long line for one.

>Whiz is for tourists and people from Northeast Philadelphia (IE tourists)
i'm from the northeast and most people i know like prov or american. i also like whiz though because i'm white trash.

>search steve prince of steak
>0 results

For me it’s Steve’s Prince of Steaks in Northeast Philly. There’s one on Bustleton Ave and another at Conley and the Boulevard. There was one in Center City like 10 years ago but I don’t know if it’s there anymore.

My real hot take is that Geno’s actually isn’t that bad, it’s just a tourist trap. Frankly I find Dellasandro’s and Jim’s more overrated by locals.

>>18836333
eh

>>18836333
steve's is good but it's not what the average person is looking for when they want a cheesesteak. plus they're only in the northeast and no tourist would want to go there.

>>18836333
>>18836352
princes is what changed me over from shaved steak to whatever those miniature looking ribeyes are called. i usually try to go when im in philly

gooey louie's is good too

In Boston a philly cheesesteak is what we call it when you shove someone's face into your bare asscrack

Oh, look! A Jersey Mike's. My favorite Philadelphia cheesesteak joint. And I'm going to go get me a Philly steak!

>>18836060
YOU DON'T FLY OVER PHILLY

>>18836176
haven't been in a while. good to know.

phillysteins, do y'all put onions and peppers on your steaks or naw? does the hoagie get the toastie? cheez wiz seems fucked, i would always prefer provolone, but at the same i dont wanna get in a fight with you yanks.
>t. deep south plantation owner

>>18836538
Onions: yes
Grilled peppers: up to you
Pickled peppers: what the fuck nigger
Raw peppers: no

>>18836553
my preference would be grilled to both, but i wanted to know how you filthy northerners preferred it. preciate ya, rabbi.

>>18836538
Onions yes, always.
Peppers, just the pickled ones from the pepper bar many of the stand-type cheesesteak places have. Bell peppers fried with the onion and meat, while available, aren't standard here. Idky people outside of the area seem to think they are.

>>18836553
>what the fuck nigger
Aw. I like'em.

>>18836556
Hoagies & grinders, hoagies & grinders
Hoagies & grinders, hoagies & grinders
Navy beans, navy beans, navy beans
Hoagies & grinders, hoagies & grinders
Navy beans, navy beans

The best steaks are found at the asian mom and pop grocery stores. Don't waste your time with tourist traps like pats, genos, or dallessandro's

>>18836424
It's the cheese steak mafia tonight alright haha. Whiz once the sun is down, provolone for anything but breakfast and replacing whiz at night only if the cheese is sweating, not too melted. And do not fucking skimp on that oil and heat for the peppers.
I'm coming from down south so if you wouldn't mind having some carmalized onions that'd be nice too.

Pick a place there is tons of mom and pop's Italian places in Philly

>>18836538
I order it cheesesteak peppers and onions and sauce, and a side of mozzarella sticks

>>18836731
>sauce
wtf sauce are you talking about?
As a semi-related thing, I once ordered a chili cheesesteak while drunk off my ass. Got a cheesesteak with hot dog chilli on it. Good af, but messy to eat while unsober.

>>18836746
Pizza sauce or mayo I'm guessing

>>18836746
Marinara

>>18835597
>what's the best place in Philly to get a steak
Pic related

Also, we don't give a fuck how you order it. Wiz and provolone are both acceptable options. Many prefer American cheese too

Phillyfags,, are mushrooms an acceptable topping on a steak?

>>18836803
What about the rolls? Are they made from connected dough?

>>18836811
yes

>>18836811
Yes. Most to all cheesesteak places offer the option.

>>18836782
Pizzasteak is a thing, but I've never actually had one

Most people look at me like I've got thirty-two heads when i ask for mayo.

>>18836784
Never seen that. Weirdest cheesesteak variant I've seen is from a place that used to be on South Street called Tek. Crabsteak. Just normal ass cheesesteak with Old fucking Bay on it. Not great.

>>18836883
>Tek
FoodTek, rather.

>>18835597
Out of all regional "delicacies" Cheesesteaks and NYC style pizza are the biggest examples of how people will take pride in arbitrary nonsense

>>18836883
I'd have to say that mayo on cheesesteak is the most screwed up thing I've ever heard, let alone old bay

>>18836937
mayo on a steak is actually pretty common. same with pizza sauce and ketchup

>>18836944
Yup. Mayo+provolone on a cheesesteak is fucking great

>>18836916
Philadelphia can claim flavoured fucking soda as a local invention (by Dr. Emlen Physick in 17...99, i think?) yet no one brings it up and few people even seem to know it.
Also, fried ice cream. Despite being associated with American Japanese restaurants, fried ice cream was invented in Philadelphia by the wife of the owner of a dairy company. She would dip solid frozen slabs of ice cream in pancake batter and fry in lard as a dessert offering at dinner parties.

>>18835597
looks like infected diarrhea on bread

>>18836937
I get mine spk+mayo.

I like their cream cheese

I'm still made youse guys didn't change the SEPTA logo to the S thing

>>18836978
Invented in New York, IINM.

>>18836985
I hate SEPTA so goddamn much.

>>18836996
go on

>>18837047
Nothing more to say.

>>18835629
Good call anon, I've been going to Johns for ages and finally got brave to try something other than that damned god send pork.
I was not let down. Jims on 4th and South is top notch as well.

>>18837054

>>18836352
I used to work in lib2 and there was a Steve's across the street, it's not there anymore sadly (but good for my wallet and waistline).

>>18837090
I forget if it's Liberty 1 or 2 that has the Canadian consulate in it. Went there once with a literal crackhead Canadian i know who worked for the library system. Not sure he still does. I don't think "functional crackhead" is a thing you can do long term.

>>18836803
>Chink's
WHAT THE FUCK? How have they not changed the name?

>>18837110
I thought they did.

Steve's prince of steaks

>>18835668
Based cheesesteak lore cleric

The only cheesesteak I've had in all of philly was d'Alessandro's by raw luck/chance. For you to tell me that it is where it was invented blows my mind.

10/10 post.

>>18835624
I give a shit how you eat. Tell me more, what's your diet like besides cheap cheese steaks covered in wiz?

>>18837107
I googled but now it's on JFK. (1617).

At one year, my grand father was retired but did some mediator for corp stuff, my self and my gf all worked in lib2, thanks for reading my faggot blog.

go to wawa
order a cheesesteak, american cheese
extra cheese
add onions, peppers, other, as wanted
done

white american is my favorite on a cheese steak. provolone has no flavor.

>>18837253
I bought a $9 hunk of provolone at an Talian market and it’s got some real punch

Chink’s

>>18837434
They’ll have to change the name if a white person takes it over

>>18837499
No need to worry about that they'll be extinct in a couple more generations

>>18837170
I enjoy a steady diet of your mother's vagina
ha, got 'em

>>18835618
reddit whiz isnt even good just get provolone

>>18837560
You got moxie kid

>>18837253
>provolone has no flavor.
This is my favorite filter for retards and smokers

>>18837110
>>18837499
They changed it a decade ago to Joe's

>>18835597
>Steak
>It's a hot dog with chopped diarrhea
Huh?

Provolone, wit. No other way. Never get the orange goo that people associate with cheesesteaks. No bell peppers, no mushrooms. They are unnecessary. Hot peppers on top though, ask if they have "fried Italian long hots" (its a philly thing). Honestly, it's hard to say which is the best place. Even the best (John's Roast Pork, D'elassandro's, Steve's, Max's) are all tourist traps in their own way. A hot cheesesteak for $5 off a cart on the side of the street can be so much better.

>>18835618
Carts are a good place to go. There's one right outside of UPenn that makes a decent cheesesteak. The reason they're so good though is because they all use sliced cheese instead of the whiz garbage and their grills are seasoned from many previous orders. I think they actually find decent meat to use, without being pretentious because they're run by families. They put care into every order and they know which hoagie rolls are the right ones to use, which is a make or break for any cheesesteak enjoyer.

>>18835668
>Whiz was made by Geno's
Not even Geno's has whiz as a default

Geno's is a tourist trap, by far, but even they at least try to discourage the orange goo.

>>18835597
What cut of beef are these steak sandwiches made from? I one time tried a prime ribeye sandwich that was delicious. Even had some beef broth to dip it in.

>>18838065
The generic "philly" steak pucks sold by Sysco, USFoods, et al, is usually, not unsurprisingly, a top or bottom round cut, otherwise known as beef garbage.

>>18838073
Eh I figured, they are good though right? I've had plenty of steak sandwiches now but never the famous philly style cheese steak with the cheese wiz.

>>18836052
I mean isn't a place Wisconsin cheese central?

>>18838083
Yeah, it's not bad, but by virtue of not being ground up (which is usually is) it's classified as "steak" and you end up paying more than you should.

So much of capitalist food culture is fraudulent sometimes it feels like everyone is just trying to get one over on you. It bugs me more than it should maybe, if it bugs you as well, the solution is to just make shit at home for yourself it ain't difficult.

>>18835597
It’s nice to now have to travel to PA to get a cheesesteak anymore. PA is a shithole

>>18837745
>smokers
is it because smokers lack sensitivity of ol' factory and taste receptors or is it some kind of genetic disposition that increases one's likelihood of being a smoker and also not tasting dried dairy product?

What do we think of the new (as in the last few years now) lamb cheesesteaks? They're typically common in the hood and not white people areas but there's a truck (or at least it used to be; idk if it's still there) at 24th and Oregon that sells (sold?) them. I've yet to have one.

>>18835597
Charleys or Subway.

Never been to Philadelphia but I love cheesesteaks. I hear people recommend Jim's often, or John's Roast Pork.

>>18838140
Smoking kills your sense of taste retard

>>18838940
Jim's is tourist trap garbage. Go to Steve's

>>18836489
Don't forget to order the authentic big kahuna cheesesteak. Pound for pound identical to the first Philadelphia Cheesesteak ever made.

get a roast pork w brocolli rabe instead

>>18839116
>the meat's not chopped
Dropped.

>>18835597
>just beef, bread and melted cheese
>no veggies
Do americans really?

I got shamed into using whiz at a non tourist trap location, and i am glad that i was. It was definitely the right choice.

>>18835956
>reddit: the cheesesteak

>>18835597
>What's the best place in Philly to get a steak?
The kitchen. Where you know you're using high quality ingredients and not ultraprocessed shit.

>>18839259
No long hots
anon, I...

>>18836538
Cheesesteak with pickled banana peppers and onions is top tier. You need something to cut through all the fat and savory of everything

>>18835668
>Passyunk
>Roxborough
>Manayunk
What the fuck are these disgusting names? Why does Philadelphia seem like such a gross shithole?

>>18840354
It's the city of Brotherly Love, don't get it twisted up.

>>18837897
Gutless faggots.

>>18840383
Hopefully they start exclusively practicing brotherly love so they all die out and I never have to hear about them again.

>>18835597
I make my own

>>18840354
Native American names
Manayunk is roughly "a place to drink" to no one's irony it's loaded with bars and breweries, there's a famous bike race there too. At 25 I felt too old to go out there, now a decade later I couldn't picture stepping foot in that area.

Philly does suck but, like anyone who lived there (and currently works in it) only locals can complain, not even suburb niggers who don't go there and see the news and act like they know the place. Fuck this shit hole, but it's our shit hole.

>>18841984
Mmmm mmmm

>>18841984
>>18843095
looks like shit

>>18843147
Tasted good though

>>18835597
Looks like the original goyslop

Can I cook a cheesesteak in a nonstick electric griddle? Our kitchen has those meme glass stovetops and I don't want to put cast iron on it.

>>18843095
stop being poor

>>18836480
you're a bunch of freaks

>>18840394
You have clearly never been here, stood in front of Independence hall or seen the Liberty bell or walked down the ancient streets that Ben Franklin traversed. Philly was the start were it all started

>>18837745
>he doesn't smoke a Newport 100 after finishing his cheesesteak

>>18844985

>ctrl+f "campo's"
>0 results
hmmm

>>18835597
head across the water to camden and go to donkey's place

Joe's is good, you can get a decent one most places honestly it's not that hard to make.

Provolone always.