/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18789491
Why do you park in a driveway and drive in a parkway? It's just how it started so that's how it goes. We mainly raised cows, pigs and chickens so because of economy of scale they were cheaper than lamb. Lamb being more expensive made even less people want it. It continues to this day.

>>18789491
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_Wars

>>18789513
Fuck people were based back then. Why are there no more based people in our society

>>18789491
Amerifats don't eat lamb. Not sure why

>>18789529
Rampaging murderous thugs still exist

>>18789491
i have never eaten lamb and would eat a human before eating a lamb.
for if the day comes when we are down to eating lamb because the cows are all gone, cannibalism is not that far off.
might as well just start early.

>>18789536
It’s sold at most grocery stores and butchers. I don’t love the lamby taste, might as well be gamey,

>>18789491
Aldi has it on special pretty often but most grocery stores don't carry it and I've never had it

>>18789537
cool it with the racism buddy

>>18789491
Lamb is eaten, but due to history and profit, chicken, beef, and pig won out over sheep, here. But lamb is in most every grocery store, from ground lamb up, through chops, up to whole legs around the holidays.

>>18789550
I watched a reality show about butchery where in one episode the contestants had to process a ‘lamb’. The damn thing was a full-grown sheep.
In most other western cultures, a ‘lamb’ is up to a year old, a ‘hogget’ is a sheep up to two years old, and ‘mutton’ is over two years old.
The older the animal, the stronger and gamier the taste. So most Americans are actually eating hogget and mutton, which are much more powerful in flavour than lamb.
A tip for our American friends is to make sure your butcher knows the age of the beast and don’t touch it if it’s more that two years old. Keep it under one if you can though, that’s when they’re at the most tasty.

>>18789491
Yes, it's true. Large swaths of the US are not as conducive to raising sheep as in europe, so the default here is normally beef.

I don't like lamb, it tastes weird. Same as foal, but at least horse is good. Sheep is better off used for milk (cheese) and to hide wolves.

>>18789700
Surprisingly enough, game shows are not an accurate look at American butcher practices.

>>18789491
Beef was traditionally more common so not as many sheep were raised. This makes lamp more expensive than beef, which makes people not want to buy lamb, which in turn reduces the demand for lamb and therefore the demand for lamb farms, which makes lamb more expensive, etc. It's a positive feedback loop. Do they not teach these things in european universities? It seems pretty obvious

>>18789491
it's like this:
>I try lamb
MMMM tasy
>try to get wife to try
NO it's too cute to eat!
>Convince her to try it.
OM NOM NOM! fuck lambs give me more.

>>18789700
this is nonsense.

all the lamb in all the grocery stores in the US is actual lamb usually from australia.

>>18789700
I used to be a butcher and this is generally true. Prepackaged "lamb" like mince and chops almost always come from fully grown sheep. For the most part the only places where you'll get served genuine lamb are high scale restaurants and honest small scale butchers (though most will lie to you about the age of the animal).

>>18789970
>all the lamb in all the grocery stores in the US is actual lamb
No it isnt, we dont have any labeling laws surrounding lamb vs mutton. A vast majority of our lamb is mislabeled mutton
>from ausfalia
If imported lamb says its lamb its probably lamb. Ditto for halal butchers and markets

>>18790046
>If imported lamb says its lamb its probably lamb. Ditto for halal butchers and markets
which is what it says in any grocery store I have been in.

Cattle can be farmed much more profitably than lamb. Sheep are small, not much meat. It is weird though. I always thought America was this land of carnivores and they seem to just overlook the best meat

>>18789491
>What are the reasons for this?
Beef and chicken are cheaper. Fish too, depending on region.

>>18789491
>Europe
More like Spain, France, UK and the Balkan.

>>18790046
The USDA has set labelling regulations for lamb and mutton. No clue what you’re going on about.

>>18789700
>hogget and mutton
No, just hogget. Mutton is relatively unheard of stateside. You can find it if you look, but mutton isn't typical in the US. Oddly enough, despite spring lamb being rare here and hogget being the norm, rose veal simply doesn't exist in the US. I like rose veal but haven't had it in years since moving to America.

>>18789970
I'm sorry to say but despite where she got her viewpoint (a reality show, ffs!), she's right. Lamb here is generally too old to be considered lamb in many other countries. That's not to say what is sold as lamb is bad or low quality. Far from it. Just that it's not something that would be labled "lamb" in the English-speaking world outside of North America.

>>18790137
Italy and Switzerland, too, where I'm from.

>>18790120
>carnivores
Not really. They mostly buy beef, pork, chicken and turkey and hunt deer. The typical American's diet is practically devoid of all other meats, including veal, suckling pig and capon despite them being, arguably, just varieties of beef, pork and chicken.

>>18790164
Veal is available and overrated.

>>18789491
Probably because we have acres and acres of these lil things, much easier to maintain they don't really go anywhere, not like herding sheep

I would imagine it’s due to it being easier to factory farm cows, pigs, and chickens than it is to factory farm lamb. That and it’s unique flavor that to some people can border on gamey. Beef, pork, and chicken tend to be far less offensive to most palettes.

>>18790181
No one said it wasn't. Do work on your reading comprehension skills, sweetheart.

>>18789491
It's expensive but yea we do.
>>18789536
It's rich man's food here. Any grass fed lamb here gets bought up by fancy restaurants before any peasents get a chance to buy it. You can order factory lamb from most stores but it's not the same taste

>>18790137
It's also the national dish of Norway. And it is the most common Christmas dinner in western Norway.

US was built on cotton, so I assume the demand for wool was pretty low and from there less people kept sheep. More people bought cows for their milk and chickens for their eggs, so beef and chicken seem to be king here.

>>18790002
Are you sure? I see lamb leg in stores fairly often and it looks too small to have come off a sheep.

>>18789491
Just looked up lamb mince on Krogers out of curiosity and its twice as expensive as lamb mince in Britain.

>>18789491
>Is it true lamb isn't traditionally eaten in the USA compared to Europe?
yes, it's true.
>What are the reasons for this?
It was an accident of history. In most parts of the world sheep are a multi-use animal - they provide wool, milk, and meat. In the states, the massive cotton industry suppressed the market for wool, and the huge herds of wild cattle then later huge cattle ranches suppressed the market for both milk and meat from sheep, with the result that it wasn't really economically viable compared to cotton, cow milk, and beef. after a few hundred years of this, american consumers developed an attitude towards sheep that was somewhere between disinterest and active dislike; lamb and sheep milk just taste awful and gamey to the average american.

>>18792104
What? What?
Go shit in your hat

>>18790198
This is why we don't eat lamb we have tons of this
you guys eat Veal?
No

As an Australian I'm kind of interested in what lamb tastes like for Americans
I've heard people talk about lamb and sometimes in videos they specifically state that their lamb is from Australia and that that's a very good thing and nothing like the lamb they figured their audience was used to
Personally I want to try some more gamey lamb/mutton

I was thinking about it the other day. Watching American TV shows, in more than one show I get the impression that lamb was opinionated in USA and never understood why

Don't you mutts eat lamb? Is it because the taste?

I saw a rack of lamb at the store today for $23 is it worth it? How many people would that feed?

All the mediterranean restaurants I go to (Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, and Turkish) have lamb options.

I'm going to buy a new freezer for my garage. I want to fill it with meat. I found a local farm that will butcher a whole lamb for $6/lb, whereas local grocery store lamb is like $20ish/lb [admittedly thats for nice cuts]. Anyone have experience getting a whole lamb? Is frozen meat gross after a while or is it still pretty decent? Do you vacuum pack the meat or just use ziplocs?

>>18789491
Lamb and sheep take grass from the roots, cattle don't do that and just eat grass from what it is. It's the old range war sort of thing.

>>18789491
Eat lamb every Easter holiday, it's expensive in the states cuz we don't have sheep herders running about
Love the meat though so no it has nothing to with flavor only availability

>>18793211
It's not that expensive here in the states, I go for the pr0k chops

A good large leg of lamb is $100+ here in the states

All the big American food tubers have at least one lamb shank or lamb rack episode.

>>18793227
that's not tube anything, that's ramsay sheen after his followers have been running around like chickens with their heads chopped off, dont forget the sheen

>>18793227
ramsay is a faggot brit, you cant blame that british faggotry on us Americans

>>18793237
Everyone blames us for everything, where have you been

>>18793244
I know all that but has to be specific from time to time

The U.S. Beef lobby basically paid regulators to destroy the sheep industry in the early 20th century.

>>18790137
>the Balkan.

Slovene here, we don't eat mutton at all, traditionally.

>>18789964
We've got more to learn about other than
>burgers are too stupid to enjoy quality food
You may not have heard but we've got culture etc. although you probably think that commie shit.

>>18793032
Generally 2. (Although desu I could eat one on my own if I ever tried.) It's normally about £12–£16 here. It's a fantastic cut. Give it a sear on all the surfaces you can, on a very hot ovenproof frying pan, then oven. I think about 180° for 20 minutes, but maybe less. Don't overcook, you want a little bit of pink.

>>18793422
You guys barely touch the Balkan and rather stand in the central European tradition where noone it's sheep or even lamb.