/ck/ - Food & Cooking

daily reminder: my coffee > ur coffee

I don't care what anyone says. pre-ground coffee in a cheap drip coffee maker is the best way to drink it. I use a $10 coffee maker from wal-mart (it's two years old and I'm shocked it still works) and Folgers. That's all the excitement I need!

I've literally been at this for 2 weeks and have already mastered it. the bar for making cum yourself coldbrew is VERY low.

Reminder that coffee tastes better when you drink it out of a cool mug. What are you all putting your coffee into?

what's a good grinder for under $40? i use aeropress.

what's a good grinder under $20?

>>18764659
I've got this custom printed glorantha mug that I got for christmas a few years ago.

ceramic or glass? link to some cool cups

what's a good grinder under $5?

>>18764560
daily reminder: my coffee > ur coffee

>>18764719
>>18764675
>>18764673
just chew them

AEROPRESS FUCKING GANG
>>18764577
Weak bait
>>18764659
Facts, mine are cat related
>>18764673
>>18764675
Get your roaster to grind them for you
>>18764701
Typical sexy aeropress user

>>18764720
Post those fruity 3 day from roast Colombians faggot.

>>18764577
I agree

Mines a dollar store one about 6 years old. Folgers Black silk

Finally got my electric hario kettle. Less than 60€ and no shipping cost, thanks krauts. Not a temp controlled one, but I've got a thermometer for that when I need it. Made in chinkland, guessing hario has a factory in japan for the local market but uses chinese ones for international one. It's got some rough edges but is mostly solid. It's filled with stickers that are going to be annoying to remove.
Took 5 minutes to boil a max filled (0.8L) tank of cold water. I'm probably going to be loading it up with half that amount most of the time.

Oh and here's a discount code if anyone uses coffee circle. I'm not planning on buying anything from them for the foreseeable future so I don't need it.

>>18764877
>60 eur
>no temp control
>chink made
>5 minutes for 800ml
I'm so glad I didn't fall for this meme

>>18764890
Best deal I can get in this country unfortunately. Any other option would probably be worse or more expensive.
And for what it's worth I did use pretty cold water.

>>18764890
>I'm so glad I didn't fall for this meme
God damn those plastic tubes are nice tho.

>>18764745
wrong faggot faggot

>>18764577
>>18764866
yep i use a drip brewer i found in the garbage that was lacking a carafe and filter basket so i brew in a fish bowl and just deal with chunky coffee. i'm currently use the collected grinding residuals a big roaster cleans out from their commercial grinders
best coffee youll ever drink

>>18764938
Doubt it blueberry boy.

>>18764945
Why not just use the stove lmao

>>18764955
blueberries are trash
im not that light roast ethiopian blueberry fruit juice guy.

>>18764955
>>18764983
you can seethe about it until your asshole bleeds, but I'll still be over here enjoying my rich, gooey, medium roast, BLUE BERRY BOMB shots.

>>18764659
It sure does!
Got the little ceramic cups from a local coffee shop. Made by hand really well, and EXACTLY 130g. Brilliant.
The yeti has my initials on the other side. Thanks, mom.
And I just got the clear one (two, actually, the other is in the dishwasher) recently as a gift. Perfect size for a double shot, and it's really cool to watch the espresso drip into it.
I'm very happy with my drinking vessels.

>>18765000
>gooey
yuck

>Look at old book about housekeeping
>Come across this picture of a kitchen with an espresso machine
>"Oh wow what a cute espresso machine, I wonder if they still make them"
>Look up the make and model
>It's only capable of going up to 4 bars
My heart was broken, how does a machine Liek this even get made?

>>18764929
?

>>18765042
ah, i see. you're a fucking retard that doesn't understand the technical aspects of making espresso. thanks for nothing, dipshit. kys.

coffee isn't that fucking serious holy shit

>>18765089
no you just dont know what gooey means you esl dumb fuck.

>>18765252
except it is
>______ isn't that fucking serious holy shit
yeh nice one dick head.

this thread sucks. i'm switching to tea.

>>18765260
look at how cranky they get from caffeine withdrawal around here

Welcome new friends one and all.
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.

>>18765358
>The stories and information posted here are autistic works of fiction and falsehood.

technical /= serious

why is it i can pull a nicer jam flavour from shitty lavazza oro beans rather then these single origins freshly roasted.

>>18765498
which lavazaa beans? roast and temp?

>>18765514
oro (the gold packet), moka pot

>>18764560
Correct, my coffee is better than yours.

I had some pourover camping coffee from Kuju coffee. It wasn't bad but it wasn't that good either. I think I'll stick with my aeropress for camping.

>>18765535
Based Aeropress User!

>>18765550
Oops

Thanks to the thread about moka pots, today I watched a few videos on how to actually use one. The last time I used mine was 2019, its sat in the top of the coffee cupboard since then because I didn't like the results.
Today though, after proper instruction, the coffee from my moka pot was amazing. Pic is the coffee I used.

>>18765524
were the single origins the same roast? lighter roasts can be stubborn but its tough to say. your palate could also just prefer the lavazza, im tempted to buy the whole bean oro to test lol

the temptation has passed

>>18765564
quality of the oro is hit and miss, broken beans and such. dont buy at full price.
i guess the SO beans are about a light-medium roast. the oro would be at the latter end of medium.

>>18764659
I got this as a Christmas present several years ago.

>>18765738
what is that? an anal sphincter?

>>18765743
Chastity cock ring I got from my wife's boyfriend. If I get too hard while they're playing, the slits cut me and encourage shrinkage.

As I'm trying to learn espresso making, I figured I'd start learning how to make milk drinks. I'm able to aerate milk using my French Press, but the amount of milk I need for myself is just slightly too low on the press. So my options are to use more milk than I need and continuously waste milk, or to buy some kind of frother. Is there a big difference between the Nanofoamer, and one of those "white label" $10 chinkshit ones?

>>18764740
It wasn't bait at all you aeropoof

>>18765976
For definitive proof, the bottom of the coffee maker where you can see the word WALMART and the lil walmart logo

>>18765976
>>18765981
Now, if you haters are done hating, you can purchase the coffee maker here: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Black-5-Cup-Drip-Coffee-Maker/53056868?fulfillmentIntent=In-store&athbdg=L1100

It's still under $10!

>walmart drip machine
>folgers
you almost had me

Casual coffee drinker here. What's the best method of coffee brewing that doesn't require anything disposable like coffee filters? And don't day aeropress cause I aint using that faggy hipster shit.

>>18765987
Did you not see the evidence, weaboo?

>>18766003
There are cloth and metal filters that are not disposable if you want to try that.
Personally I'd suggest cowboy coffee because you only need a pot and no other equipment.
My method:
>Boil water until it bubbles
>turn stove off and drop your grounds
>let them rest for 4 minutes
>Stir
>let them est for 6 minutes
>sprinkle some cold water from the tap so the grounds sink to the bottom
>serve straight from the pot to the cup
Very simple and very flavorful, any other method will filter out something but cowboy coffee is the most complete, it's only downside is that it's slow.
Moka pots, espresso machine and french presses also do not use anything disposable

>>18766003
French press.

Sexo con Morgan Drinks Coffee

This is just tea with more caffeine

>>18766080
No, it's coffee

>>18765976
>black silk
i bet it tastes like cooked silk too.

>>18766119
It tastes fine, I don't know why you guys hate Folgers so much. I tried to do the artisanal coffee thing. I tried an Aeropress, a Chemex, and a French press. I bought and ground whole beans and even bought locally roasted beans and ground them myself. I tried to get into them, but eventually I had to admit that I didn't really care about any of those methods or different varieties any more than Folgers or other cheap pre-ground coffee.

>>18766146
I will say that even instant coffee is a step too far for me. I can't stand the stuff.

>>18764555
I'm out of milk so now I have to drink poorover

>>18765059
Just buy it then swap the internals out

>>18765947
Does your fp not plunge low enough? Try removing the plunger from the cap.

For me its the sumatra.

>>18764555
Lads, reposting from previous thread:
I have a new Rancilio Silvia and now I require an appropriate grinder for espresso and (ocassionally) moka.
Around $650 budget, 700 at most if there is a really good grinder available.
Eureka Mignon stuff looks solid but I'm not really a fan of electronic displays.

>>18766146
>>18766148
Perhaps you have some weak tastebuds, fine as long as this works for you though.

>>18766354
df64

Retarded question, can you use any type of coffee filter for a V60 brewer?

>>18766365
Unfortunately it's pretty much impossible to get it in Poland without getting fucked in the ass by the outrageous prices.

>>18766367
You're supposed to use something that can fold into a cone.

>>18766367
yes, as long as it's cone-shaped. I bought flat bottomed filters by mistake the other day and they didn't work too good

also I just want to say that I've been brewing delicious cups with one of these cloth filters, bought it on a whim after running out of v60 paper filters. the water runs a bit too fast compared to paper but since the cone is longer and narrower the end result is about the same. plus it's reusable, ridiculously easy to wash, no need for additional ware since you can just hold it above the cup, and obviously really small and lightweight.
I started using the v60 because I like to bring it on bike rides, but this cloth filter is even more convenient, so I think I'll be switching permanently.

Picopresso anon here. I think I've dialed in as good an espresso as I'm going to get from a handleld, unpowered machine I got for less than $150. What I got was a very nice espresso. I've certainly had better espressos, but then again, I've often had much worse espressos at specialty coffee shops working with several thousand dollars worth of equipment. Obviously the next step is to try a better bean, and luckily, there's no shortage of specialty roasters around me. I think at this point, though, the hurdle is going to be brew temperature, which is just an inherent flaw not just with this machine, but with any manual machine that isn't powered. In fact, I feel like temperature would be an issue even with a more expensive manual machine like a Flair, simply because they tend to be made of machined aluminum, and I already know from being a PC gamer, that aluminum is a fantastic heatsink material, which makes it a terrible material for a water chamber that needs to remain at a certain temp.

So now comes the big, obvious question: can I get a decent espresso machine for under $300, ideally one with a PID, or at the very least, one that self heats the water chamber? Either a manual/piston/lever powered one, or an electric one. I've tried doing a search for "budget espresso machines," but they recommend things with pressurized baskets, like those cheap Mr. Coffee machines, and I want one that I can really dial in and make a real, proper espresso.

>>18766451
$350 ($299 on sale sometimes) gets you a Breville Bambino which is considered by most poorfags the best out of the box appliance level espresso device under $1000. Once you're ready to spend $1000 - $1500 of course there are much better options.

Gaggia Classic Pro has its many fans but you have to fuck with it and mod it (at significant cost) before you have all the features redditors obsess over, like PID. Its main advantage over the Breville is it uses industry standard 58mm stuff. Breville has its 54mm standard the company's married to.

>>18766451
Unless you're willing to go chinkshit there are not many choices.
You could try a dirt cheap used gaggia classic and PID mod it yourself (saves on mod kit cost).

>>18766456
I might wait a bit and try to snag a Bambino on sale. In all honesty, the results I got in the last few shots on the Pico have been good enough that I'm not actually in a terrible hurry to buy a new machine.
>>18766459
I don't mind chinkshit. Technically, both my espresso machine and grinder are chinkshit. Apparently AliExpress sells some decent coffee stuff if you're willing to dig around, but the problem with that route is that after shipping and import fees, you often end up paying as much as you did for the actual machine.

>>18766474
The nicest thing about the bambino is it's instant with their thermomeme system. There are dozens of pro systems out there you can spend $1500 on that you still have to wait 10 minutes before it's ready from turning it on. Loved that about the bambino when I had one. Press the button, three seconds it's ready, run a cycle to warm up the head and portafilter, then you go.

>>18766474
The issue with the chinkshit I'm talking about is that they're not even on aliexpress, you have to fuck around with agents to buy them.
They're unbeatable for the price though, $400 (IIRC) gets you a pseudo dual boiler with adjustable PID, flow control and preinfusion.

>>18766451
I've heard some decent things about the delonghi dedica, but I can't vouch for it.

>>18765059
>how does a machine Liek this even get made?
Blade grinders never got fine enough, manufacturers had to work around that and the lack of home burr grinders at the time

Just how harmful is mokapot aluminium? Did Hoff talk about that part at all?
This anon in a different thread makes it sound pretty bad
>>18763940

>Eureka Mignon Specialita
>Niche Zero
>DF64
so which one of those is preferable for espresso? it's pretty hard hard to take the pastebin seriously when the models are listed without as much as a simple description
DF64 looks like chinkshit, not going to lie, the Eureka would be ideal if not for the shitty looking dial

>>18766614
The niche

>>18766614
DF64, flat burrs that are actually upgradable.
Eureka uses slightly smaller burrs.

>>18766582
Hoff advises people to brew in plastic, he's worth listening to on other points but not health.

>>18766708
Shit, that's true with all those pour overs he does. Hopefully one of the significant coffeetubers covers it. Can be video about both brewing in plastic and aluminium

>>18766451
Flair brew heads are all stainless. The only aluminum is the cheapest Neo's frame.

>>18765981
>>18765976
i had that coffee maker for a few months. works as advertised and makes good folgers.

>>18766080
this is just coffee with less caffeine

>>18766734
>with all those pour overs he does
dont forget he is the shadow leader of the aeropress gang.

>>18766708
He also thinks the niche is a great filter grinder.

my local roster knows my name by now

>>18766927
nice
now you can go in and tell them you'll have "the usual"

>>18766927
Every interaction I've personally had with a local roaster has been awkward as fuck and I stopped buying there because I couldn't handle it.

>>18766886
forgive him he is terminally british.

>>18766939
mine are always awkward for some reason too, going to get the beans at a wrong time or sounding like a complete spazz over the phone

>>18766929
he changes up his coffees too often to have "the usual", but he has good coffee much cheaper than other places, probably because he only sells coffee "normally" once a week

i recently found out i've been using way too little ground in my coffee press. i see sites tell me to put 64 grams worth into a 32oz press and i put MAYBE 15 grams tops. i tried around 64 today and it seems extremely retarded putting that much into the press and the coffee came out gross as hell. what the hell am i doing wrong?

>>18766973
>the coffee came out gross as hell
describe it

>>18766927
It's better than the liquor store clerk knowing your name

>>18766973
>i see sites tell me to put 64 grams worth into a 32oz press
link them

>>18766983
way too dark
>>18766993
just google something like "french press measurements" and every site says the same shit

>>18766995
what? did you not taste it?

>>18767013
i did, tasted way too dark bozo

>>18767014
Sounds like you're buying shit coffee.

How to Brew
Suggested ratio: 60–70g/litre
Grind size: Medium to medium-fine
Buying advice: The iconic cafetière is glass, and most of the presses available are glass bodied. However, for a couple of reasons I’d recommend stretching to a dual-walled, stainless-steel version if your budget allows. Primarily, I recommend these because they’re unbreakable and glass most definitely is not. More expensive glass options generally have better and stronger glass, but a stainless-steel version will last a lifetime. Secondly, for those with a concern about the loss in temperature with a longer brew time, like the one I recommend, a dual-walled, stainless-steel press will retain the heat much better than glass.

Some people do say they can taste something ‘off’ or metallic with stainless-steel brewers, but in blind testing I’ve never been able to detect any difference. However, it is possible some people have a particular sensitivity that I do not.

Maintenance: Soap and water should be used after every brew. If for any reason you start to get a brown patina building up on the brewer, then dissolve about 1 tablespoon (10g) of espresso-machine cleaner (I use Cafiza, but other brands also work well) per litre of very hot water and soak for a few hours before rinsing thoroughly.

>>18767022
>THIS HOW YOU DO THINGS BOOK TOLD ME SO
kys

>>18766205
I have no idea how to and probably will be too much work
>>18766554
We came from such a dark age.

>>18766995
>french press
oh i thought you meant aeropress.
well in this case AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAAHA

>>18767029
>THIS HOW YOU DO THINGS BOOK TOLD ME SO
guess you failed 3rd grade then.

>>18767029
>My coffee tastes bad when I follow instructions

>>18767044
>>18767046
let me guess, vaxxed?

How does Jimmy brew his coffee?

>>18767085

>>18767062
Fuck no. I bought the book in the pic for like $8 used since some anon wanted it and I couldn't find an ebook version. The text is from hoffmeme's new book.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/n1ewhusogz427f5/HwBestCoff.J.Hoffmann.epub/file

I want to buy a French press. Are they all mostly the same or are there things to look for such as materials, brand, diameter, etc?

>>18767097
Thanks for the link, anon, I had only seen a few of the Hoff's YouTube videos and didn't even know he had books.

I bought Hoffs book because I thought it would look nice on my coffee table with my artbooks...

>>18764659
Ew a polystyrene mug

>>18767137
Skimming through this one, he's fleecing the fuck out of people on the back on youtube views. Standart does quarterly "magazines" that are more akin to coffee table books. Very high quality. They changed their subscription model so I didn't end up renewing this year but I miss it.

>>18767154
I actually didn't know about this, thanks I'm looking at these right now.

>>18767163
I bought it for the coffee samples, thinking "magazine" would be a shitty glossy rag with 3/4 ads. Nah. Thick matte paper, crisp printing and great odd reads. I was pleasantly surprised. The price seemed a little high until I got the first issue in hand. Can't be cheap to print smalls run like this.

>>18765976
very fitting mug

>>18767249
Yeah they're doing a special free issue so I just ordered it. Thanks anon.

>>18767371
Let me know how you like it and what coffee you get. I got stuff from sey, cloudpicker, the barn berlin and one other I can't remember right now. All fantastic.
https://cloudpickercoffee.ie
https://thebarn.de/
https://www.seycoffee.com/

>>18767379
Oh it just popped into my head. This was the 4th. Cloudpicker has some bombe right now but I knew I got something else from them.
https://fathers.cz/product/bombe-filter/?lang=en

>>18765252
doesn't have to be, for sure, i just enjoy the processes

the coffee

>>18766865
Wrong. I am a face tattooed redneck. Not an Englishman.

>>18767644
You're not fooling me you tattooed redneck englishman

>>18767799
I am Canadian. Stop this blasphemy.

>>18767811
Canadians are basically englishmen. Yes the women too.

Are puck screen worth it for espresso ?

>>18767819
No. We are Ukrainian and German.

>>18767832
Yes. The disc ones are better than the mesh ones.

I hope someone else hopped on that fever tree listing before they realized the fuckup.

>>18767819
>>18767836
Both wrong. Canadians are chinese.

French Press broke. Do I need to be particular with a replacement or can I just get whatever works?

>>18767994
friend, i think you should join the hario switch gang

>>18768018
It hasn't arrived yet...

>>18767994
I'm not a coffee expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I haven't noticed a difference between French Presses. I had a double walled Bodum that I stole from Starbucks when they fired me, but it ended up breaking, and I replaced it with a cheap $8 one from Ikea, and from what I can tell, the resulting coffee is exactly the same.

Is the chemex garbage and gay?

Starbucks shit isnt even coffee is it? Its espresso shots and a fuck ton of milk and flavoring isnt it?

>>18768105
yes its perfect for you

>>18768111
I wasn't aware espresso shots weren't coffee.

>>18768219
I mean ig technically its coffee, but there is enough there to make a distinction. I promise if you take someone who is used to starbucks "coffee" and take them to a place that actually uses coffee rather than espresso and I gurantee they will think its gross.

>>18767819
>>18767836
>>18767993
Everyone knows Canadians are just Americans with better manners and fewer bullet holes in their schools.

>>18768205
What makes it garbage and gay exactly?

I'm a major gear queer. I love to nerd out about equipment with all of my hobbies. Hell, some times I even immerse myself in hobbies I don't even have just to research gear. It's so much fun to set up, optimise, and budget a specialised set of tools. With coffee however, I just can't do it. Every time I look at espresso machines or grinders or pour-over cones, or presses I just get stressed the fuck out for some reason.
/blog

>>18768251
>garbage
a "so cheap its essentially free" plastic v60 is better in literally every way and its vastly tougher than glass.
>gay
the only people who care about the chemex take over an hour to do their hair every morning which can only be 2 kinds of people, women or poofters.

>>18768272
>I just get stressed the fuck out for some reason.
sounds like you need to drink more goffee.

>>18768272
Start small and scale up.

>>18768272

>>18768299
rok chads can't stop winning(me its only me)(i cant wait to buy a HG-2)

Any recommendations for an entry level grinder? Just got my first espresso machine.

>>18768342
If you want a hand grinder consult this chart >>18768299. The K4 is the cheapest decent espresso focused grinder on it. If you want electric some other anon will have to help you.

just got my oxo kettle for a clean $100
if it doesn't drop dead suddenly I'll consider it a very good purchase. the temps are accurate according to my thermopop, it heats fast, the pour is good, it's got good weight distribution. the knob is a little sticky but that seems like it could be lessened by use. seems like people stopped talking about it because the EKG came out and I get the willingness to deal with the price difference, but on a budget and based on good experiences with a bunch of oxo stuff in my kitchen I'd be willing to roll the dice with oxo over xiancumj china rando at similar or lesser price points
only thing I could say for a con is that it's not insulated so the kettle itself gets hot to the touch but in practice that doesn't matter, and the handle is the same thick rubber oxo uses for all its other stuff so it's pleasant to hold
I like it especially at the pricepoint

>>18768346
It's even cheaper on Amazon US than the chart suggests. I picked it up for $88, and it's still at that price right now.

>>18768371
The kingrinders were basically on a permanent sale, and then I'm guessing amazon forced them to set the price to the intended one since iirc it's illegal to pull that stunt in many countries.

>>18768351
How's the seam between the spout and body? That's where its going to rust through.

>>18768388
looks fine, didn't see any leaks giving it a test

>>18768381
I'm surprised they even bother selling them in North America. I was under the impression that Kingrinder was a sister company or subsidiary of 1ZPresso focused on the China and South East Asian markets, and aside from branding, they're literally the same grinders.

>>18768371
Yeah I was waiting to see if those prices stuck or not so I guess I can just strikethrough the old prices and tack on the new ones.

>>18768396
Thats exactly what it is. They're just selling 1zpresso seconds on a different thread pitch on the adjustment. Femobook is also part of that hydra. I'm pretty sure its chinese money laundering through "taiwanese" companies manufacturing in China. Kin's early ads on aliexpress had some shit that translated out to
>to heal the worship of western culture
>>18768392
It'll happen over time. I'd assume its from people letting water sit and reboiling the same water building up scale right in that little elbow.

>>18768299
Are all these espresso-grade? Is it worth getting an even cheaper one if I only brew filter goffee?

>>18768424
that's fucking gay dude. why are kettle manufacturers so fuckin homosexual.

>>18768428
>espresso-grade
>espresso
>grade

>>18768346
Thanks for that. I'm on my phone and didn't even repeat that was.

>>18768479
*realize

>>18768428
Alot of them yeah. In particular the kinus, 1zpresso J line, and Kin 3/4. If you're just doing filter the kin k6 will be the best bang for your buck right now. It'll also do fantastic espresso, just a slightly different presentation compared to ones I listed. Its a cheaper bigger burr comandante knockoff, with finer adjustment right out of the box.
>Is it worth getting an even cheaper one
Its worth getting an even cheaper one if you make coffee infrequently. I wouldn't be dropping $100 on a grinder if I planned on using it a few times a year. If you're using it daily and its going to last years, don't shoot yourself in the foot over a few bucks.

>>18768275
>arguing plastic over glass
nta but im starting to think you are a gay

budget consumer grade espresso machine any upgrade over el-cheapo generic chinese machine? should i give up my dreams of espresso and stick to pourovers and immersions?

>>18768441
>>18768424
well it has a 2 yr warranty so if it happens I'll happily argue with their customer service to fix it
it would be a shame, it's a really nice kettle. the water I use is aggressively filtered so hopefully with regular maintenance it can be staved off.

>>18768611
>aggressively filtered
That's another thing to note when seeing people bitch in reviews. Some people have shitty water. Some people don't clean their shit. Its not just oxo, thats just how it works. Ideally you want a fairly steep angle to keep water from drying on that weld. Scale increases thermal resistance. That little weld gets hotter and hotter and water is eventually going to seep in and sit. Just keep it in mind and I'm sure you'll be fine.

>>18768686
I hope so. it's nice to use and looks great.

>espresso was finally good for the other time the first day
>back to being hard
why is it extracting so much slower nowww

>>18767912
the disc ones?

I just received my Cafec Medium filters but I won't be using them until tomorrow
I better not have been bamboozled by /ctg/

>>18768740
I got mine off aliexpress and had to wait a few weeks but sworks has his version in stock now.
https://sworksdesign.com/Puck-Disc-Screen-p504672678

>>18768749
>he fell for the meme

Brewed my ever first kenya beans and damn they don't taste like the local liberica beans I've been brewing. I brewed using a 1:12 ratio and I don't know how to describe it.

>>18768951
try to

>>18768971
It smelled nice but it was pretty weird, I could taste a fruit it wasn't like fruit tea.

>>18768609
Unless you live near china I wouldn't bother.
You're looking at $300 minimum for something that could work.

Why are glass tubes for coffee beans so damn expensive even on AliExpress?
I can get mason jars for like 1/5th the price of those tubes

>>18764555
how long does cold brew last? a week?

>>18769215
Fancy coffee markup
Get test tubes or even piss tubes those are cheaper.

yo I'm looking for a step-less titanium burr hand grinder for under $150.
I'm trying to use it for espresso so grind quality is really important and I'd also like roughly 48 mm burrs
any suggestions? I've heard someone talking about having just that but with all the hunting I've done it seems too good to be true.

>>18769299
>titanium burr
Does this actually exist? Only heard of titanium coated burrs before.

>>18769299
Lmfao

>>18769303
that's what i meant

>>18769299
Save an extra $50, get a kinu phoenix.
>>18768299

Is it bad if I can see a lot of chaff in my V60 grind?

>>18767085
>>18767089
Folgers in a Walmart drip maker

>>18769399
>$350 grinder
dude id rather get a lido 3 for $200.
I'm strapped on cash and not wanting to walk into that land of diminishing returns

>>18769513
Kinu classic is $350. Phoenix is $199. Learn to read.

>>18769409
No. Chaff mostly has to do with roasting.

>>18768508
yes i am a huge faggot
no i dont make espresso or pour over or use any plastic in any part of my coffee making process.
yes you are also a faggot for obsessing so fucking much on some plastic that is already inside of you and will never come out.

>>18769215
its called the idiot tax

>>18769299
>for under $150.
lol

>>18769589
Thanks anon

What would you guys say is the best coffee to buy online? Or best place? I enjoy buying coffee from my local places but want tk get some good ones online from across the US

>>18764877
thinking about getting this little piece of shit + a single induction top that I need anyway. I have a feeling it will boil faster and I don't really like the idea of an electric kettle taking up extra space for only 1 task. don't they usually break within 2 years?

>>18769735
I mean I can't speak specifically for hario kettles, but I don't think I've ever had an electric kettle break, or know anyone that did.

EUfag here, what grinder around €550? Not sure if the Niche is worth the price but I'm also worried about the fucking ghetto dials on Eureka machines.

>>18768111
>>18768240
why are espresso shots not coffee? what is "real coffee" to you? drip?

>>18769749
I'm really tired of our ceramic hob to be honest. it has so many downsides compared to induction and zero benefits. it's mindblowing that this garbage has become mainstream in germany. gas hobs are almost non existent lol

are there any downsides I'm missing or should I just get the regular gooseneck kettle + induction?

>>18769758
do you know about the G-IOTA (DF64)? 469€

>>18769779
The ones that are available don't seem to be the latest v4 revision although I could be wrong.
https://www.ekspresdokawy.pl/pl/o/mlynek-do-kawy-g-iota-black-10263.html
Does this bad boy really need as many modifications and tinkering as the online comments seem to imply?

>sick of making 6 oz brews with little drip machine
>want espresso but know I'd be too lazy to prepare it regularly
>want to save as much counter space as possible
Should I get pic related or separate Nespresso/Keurig machines? I'm unsure about pic related because of the brand and its fuck ugly design, but idk if Keurig's multistream feature improves the coffee enough to justify buying a K-Supreme along with some Nespresso machine. Second combo machine choice is the Instant Pod, which is fuck ugly but not as much as the Hamilton Beach

>>18769775
you should replace your whole stovetop

>>18769785
I just know that there's a 2022 version that doesn't need tinkering.
https://sparkaffee.de/PROBARISTA-G-IOTA-Single-Doser-weiss-2022-inkl-Portakeeper-und-Trichter

international shipping should be no problem
>Versandkosten in Europa, je nach Land: Dauer 4 - 7Werktage, der von uns gewählte Versanddienstleister hängt vom Lieferland ab.
Ab 22 EUR - 28 EUR.

>>18769810
Ugly as sin but I've heard it's a really good grinder. Thanks anon, I'll consider it.

>>18769801
that looks really bad. don't trust amazon reviews when it comes to anything related to coffee. as far as I know the moccamaster is the best lazy people coffee machine but it's extremely ugly. there are tons of different color options that make it even uglier if you want

>>18769831
>Ugly as sin
that's the only reason I haven't bought it yet but there other options that look a little better. this one is 569€

>>18769839
Yeah, I've been considering this one as well but apparently it's only for espresso - I'd like to grind for moka pot occasionally as well.
I can stomach the base DF64's appearance if the functionality is as good as advertised.

>>18769839
A guy distributing DF64s in my country said it has even worse ergonomics than the DF64.

>>18769775
Only downsides I can think of are no automatic temp and you can't just plop down the kettle to have it jump back to set temp.

>>18769835
If I had the money and palate to spend that much on another drip machine that'd be sick since they have a single-serve model as well, but even so it doesn't eliminate the water filling step.

>>18769801
If you're OK with pods just get a really small pod machine.
A noticeably better drip machine will be quite expensive.

>>18764555
wtf am i looking at, did some nigger grind his coffee into literal dust before brewing?

>>18769877
the single serve model isn't very good from what i understand, it doesn't seem to work nearly as well as the big one. a pixie nespresso machine + off-brand pods will be your best option probably

>>18769885
I'm definitely switching to pods and the occasional pour-over, but wanted to know /ctg/'s opinion on combination machines like that FlexBrew and pic related because faggy foamy milk drinks would be nice too

>>18769839
>>18769853
Fuck, now I'm considering going over budget and buying DF83 instead. Hard as fuck to get it in Europe, though.

>>18768275
>the cone you're using is inferior to my cone. You have to like my cone as it is superior because ... i-it just is okay!
This is why I come to /ctg/

is there any reason not to pour your hario v60 coffee straight into the cup? is this necessary?

>>18770018
It's not necessary, no. It just looks nice, and it's good for brewing bigger batches if you're making more than one cup at a time.

>>18770003
I'm not the anon you are replying too. Plastic V60 are better because of the thermals. The plastic comes to temperature quicker than the ceramic and retains it's heat longer.

>>18770024
but for one cup there are no downsides in terms of taste, right?
I think I'd get tired of cleaning an extra cup like that by hand although it does look nice it will probably get annoying

>>18770037
Yeah, the it doesn't change anything like that

>>18770051
thanks, going to get one plastic 01 V60 when I only make coffee for myself and one 03 + a 03 server for the whole family

>>18769917
why would you ever buy that? my coffee / espresso machine cost me 200€ and has an integrated grinder so i dont have to buy overpriced pods. milk steamer / hot water faucet too.
its about twice in width, but im sure there are slimmer versions since the brewing unit can be taken out for cleaning and is about 1/3 the width of the machine youve shown.

>>18770159
What machine do you have exactly? I'm only considering the nespresso/k-pod combo machines because they'll let me do the least amount of work for decent coffee (above Folgers but below curated shit)

>>18770169
Sounds like a thrift store barista express

>>18770169
obviously the price is absolutely imbecilic. i bought it for 200€ at the local lidl about a year or two ago. im completely satisfied with the espresso it makes, provided you take beans you like. cleanup aint bad, the tray is dishwasher safe and the brewing unit doesnt take much beyond washing off occasionally.
decalc depeneds on water quality and consists of an automated process where you mix cleaning liquid with water and let it do its thing for about 30min.
deep cleaning consists of throwing in a tab and starting a brew, then shutting it off for 30min mid brew. ive had to do it after maybe 5kg of beans.
if a pod machine doesnt need those procedures its most likely shit.

>>18770025
Am I a complete philistine for using stainless steel filter in glass?

bought a 27oz insulated carafe so I can prepare the day's coffee in one shot americano style with the aeropress
200ml brewed + 400ml after for 600ml gives me the three cups I'd drink anyway. and it tastes more or less the same
it's good, thank u mr. aeropress.

>>18770247
just brew 600 ml with the v60

>>18770419
no

>>18770061
The 1 cup V60 + server combo is extremely cute though, looks like a doll stuff almost

>>18765976
>my shitty bait isn’t bait because I actually own and use the thing I’m baiting with

What hand grinder can do espresso?

>>18770544
the one you have with you

>>18770544
K4

>>18770544
1z Kmax is good. My EG-1 control box just got back from being repaired and I was using one while waiting.

Any recommendations for a grinder for espresso? I see there is a list of burr grinders in the pastebin but it seems like many of them are not designed for espresso. My budget is roughly about $500 or less.

>>18770482
isn't the small server really fragile? I'm guessing the glass is thin and it's hard to clean without a dishwasher

>>18764555
Today I had my coffee with a spoonful of brown sugar and two figs that I let steep in the bottom

>>18770546
I don't have a grinder, I'm eye to buy my first one
>>18770610
>>18770619
But those are not stepless

>Kinugrinders says my order is done processing/complete
>didn't give me a tracking #
uhhh...

>>18770800
So? The steps are as small as you'd ever adjust it anyway. Most of the stepless grinder advice comes from several years ago when the stepped grinders on the market had notches far enough apart that one notch could be multiple seconds of shot time. That isn't really the case anymore.

>>18770800
You didn't specify you wanted a stepless one. You asked for a hand grinder that can "do" espresso. And not only is the K4 perfectly capable of doing espresso, it was specifically designed for it.

>>18770820
>Most of the stepless grinder advice comes from several years ago
Most of the espresso advice in general comes from several years ago. Back when there was no such thing as a "budget" setup. When you couldn't get a decent grinder for under $400, and when you couldn't find a machine with an unpressurized basket for under like $600.

>>18770831
Also before the Decent existed. It's so radically better than everything else that the only sane recommendations at this point are "something cheap to see if you even like espresso" and "save up for a Decent once you know you do".

Has anyone tried mixing light, med, and dark roasts together?
How would it taste

>>18770800
Stepless is not a requirement for an espresso grinder. It's nice to have, but if the steps are small enough that also works. If you want stepless the cheapest option is probably the kinu m47 phoenix for $200.

>>18770839
I wish it didn't look like shit

>>18770848
At least it's not a cluttered mess of knobs, levers, and piping like everything between cheapass machines and single group versions of commercial machines was before it came along.

>>18770202
yes but you are still ahead of the aeropress losers so dont worry about getting lynched...yet.

>>18770788
clearly you didnt read the pastebin
><$500
>Commandante C40
>Kinu M47
>Fellow Ode
>Eureka Mignon Silenzio/Facile
>Baratza Sette 270
>Option-O Lagom Mini

>>18770862
I don't know, the knobs, levers, and pipes are sort of the "holotype" of espresso machines. For being such an expensive, "premium" machine, the Decent looks cobbled together. The body looks like it's crammed into an electronics project box and then had a smart phone strapped to it. In fact, what it actually looks like is like the inventor did his prototype in a project box, then when the internals were finalized, he just machined a project box out of metal so as to not have to redesign anything.

>>18770025
Is heat retention really that big an issue? I assume on a pour-over it's the same deal as a French Press, where the thermals of the material don't ultimately matter, since water doesn't (and shouldn't) stay in the vessel long enough for it to make a difference.

my left hand has healed enough to use my aeropress, and maybe even my hand grinder. but I might need surgery on my right hand now. haha
ha

>>18770898
It's a hideous holotype that looks unfinished. Like a hipster restart that just paints the ductwork instead of drywalling the ceiling to try to look "industrial". The Decent actually looks like a finished product in comparison without anything sticking out save for what absolutely has to.

>>18770973
*hipster restaurant

>>18770940
Jacked off to hard? Poured your coffee to fast?

>>18770987
years of wageslave keyboard grinding to hit productivity goals
thankfully the first surgery helped
I miss freshly ground coffee

>>18764678
Extremely cool. fa/tg/uys out there making great coffee.
>>18765011
Cozy!
>>18765738
Star Wars is a bit suspect but if it's a gift then all is excused. Coffee with memories of friends and family is excellent.
>>18767143
It's a thousand-times-folded weeb ceramic mug with glaze you philistine. One of two I got as gifts from my sister overseas, here's the other.

Coffee today: Hario Switch, coffee after water, Columbian honey process light roast. Tasted great, need new grinder but worked out well today anyway.

>>18770906
>I assume
you are wrong.

>have Breville smart grinder pro and duo temp pro (got them on sale a while back when moving into new house)
>SGP struggles with finer grind settings, makes horrifying noises
>buy a K4
>60 clicks, grind 18g
>tfw machine can't even get water through the puck in 17 seconds
Is the machine just not strong enough for the denser puck? I have basically no controls or measurements besides on/off.

>>18771042
Grind coarser.

>>18771042
I don't know what machine you're using, but I found that 65-70 is better for espresso than Kingmaker's recommended 60. Especially for 18g.

>>18764555
>>18771042
HEY I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU MOTHERFUCKERS
I have the Breville Smart Grinder pro, but I've only tried using it twice because the same problem happened again. Basically I loaded the hopper, ran it like normal, but the neck got the coffee jammed into it and the burr got stuck.
Is mine broken? Does the machine fuck up when you put too much coffee in? That's about the only theory I can come up with. Or is it just broken somehow?

>>18771190
Why haven't you tried loading less coffee in and seeing if that's the problem?

>>18771214
Thanks, good idea! I thought that might be one thing to try.

very happy with the 1zpresso q2
insane bang for the buck

>>18771152
>>18771164
Thanks, I'll give that a shot. I figured I'd be safe with a much higher setting than the manufacturer recommendation (they suggest 30 clicks for espresso), so I guess I'm just frustrated.

>>18771190
Mine stutters and makes grinding noises (the mechanical kind, not the coffee kind) with certain beans and very fine grind settings. What do you have it set to, and what kind of beans are you using?

>>18771230
>(they suggest 30 clicks for espresso)
On a K4, they suggest 60, if I recall. I feel like at 30, you're grinding Turkish.

>>18770820
>>18770831
Reasonable, I'll look into a stepped grinder but i will keep my doubts
>>18770826
I'll look into the k4 and see how truth is that.
>>18770844
I already had my eyes on the kinu for being stepless and I'll probably go with it.

>>18771248
>On a K4, they suggest 60
On a 58mm basket. He's got a 54mm breville duo temp.
>>18770940
You might have to take the electric pill cripplenon :/
>>18770619
>EG-1 control box
What was that like a month wait? Also you should get some ssp sweets to throw in that bitch.

>>18771331
>You might have to take the electric pill cripplenon :/
it may be in the cards. the ode 2 looks like it would be extremely convenient.

>>18771321
>k4
k4 is either a coated second quality jx burr(or a second quality jmax burr), which is a tweaked copy of kinu's burr set.

>>18771344

>>18771331
>On a K4, they suggest 60
>On a 58mm basket. He's got a 54mm breville duo temp.
I didn't even know the basket size mattered. How does it affect that?

>>18771234
I don't even remember, last time I tried it was about a year and a half ago. It's basically just a dust magnet on my shelf. Should I play around with it a bit more? I guess it doesn't matter if I break it because if I don't use it then it's just junk anyways.

>>18771351
A wider basket of the same dose is going to be a thinner puck. Trying to force the same grind through a much higher bed of coffee doesn't work. Either drop dose, grind coarser, or both. I went from a 46mm flair to 58mm pullman. Very very different grinds.

>>18771331
Right about, yeah. I already have some weird tungsten ssp burrs in it.

>>18771383
Yeah I'm the guy from discord. Compak r80 right?

>>18771354
Yeah, poke around with it, see if you can get it to grind really coarse at first. Don't forget the internal burr adjustment. And take note of the roast level of the beans - the only beans that have given me real trouble were a light roast. Dunno if that's real or just in my head, but I'd be curious to hear from someone else.

>>18771368
Jeez, I don't know why that didn't occur to me organically... Thanks for the tip. I wonder if the diameter affects flavor, since you're changing the dynamics of it by using a narrower outlet, a coarser grind, and thicker puck. Would the same coffee taste different even after dialing in? I'll have to do some doodles and contemplate that.

>>18771453
>diameter affects flavor, since you're changing the dynamics
Diameter, hole placement, basket taper, and dose(puck height for a given diameter) will all affect change the resistance of your puck, which will affect pressure/flow, which will affect taste.
https://espressoaf.com/guides/preferential-extraction.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPAel26Cw_A

>>18771494
Oh forgot the pic of the sworks basket. These will be incredibly high flow, and need a comparatively finer grinder than something with much less "outlet" for the espresso to exit the puck.

>>18765553
Which one has BPA? (just kidding they both do)

>>18771442
Nahnah, those came in it. The SSPs are some special geometry, but one of their earlier ones

>>18772017
Oh gotcha. Snap a pic of them next time you're inside cleaning. I've always wondered what a "worn" set of tcs would look like.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClqIHSsB4Xk/?hl=en

>>18771494
I'm also an astrophycist
I calculated the accretion disk longitude from ur mom!
the horror...

>>18771585
Wrong

New Lance just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKnCEKlGMY8

>>18771190
I broke one before but only because I used some harder than normal beans that were a lighter roast. I also broke a Baratza Virtuoso but I was able to fix it by replacing the main drive gear which had its teeth chewed out. Ordering the part was cheap. The Breville grinder that I broke is too complex to repair myself so I just bought another new one.

deep cleaning my Silvia for the first time. Should I worry about this grime? I can't really reach it with my brush.

What kind of grinder should I get if I want to put my wiener inside of Morgan?

>>18772422
Grindr

>>18765976
This photo is like time traveling to the 90s. I love it.

>>18772422
this should do the job

Where are the schizo spammers when you need them. Been waiting to make a new thread for hours.

>>18772423
Kek

>>18772882
>>18772882
>>18772882