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18677467 No.18677467 [Reply] [Original]

why haven't you taken the stand mixer pill, fellow cooks? this thing has completely changed what i'm willing to make from scratch, and the initial investment is small enough that it'll pay off.

>> No.18677473
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>>18677467

>> No.18677487

Got one during the black friday sale but still waiting for it to arrive. I'll be using it for bread and buns initially. Kneading brioche by hand was too much of a pain in the ass. Any suggestions for other cool stuff to make with it?

>> No.18677490

>>18677467
Eh, I use it way, way less than I thought I would once I bought it.

>> No.18677512

>>18677487
pizza dough and brownies were the first things i made

i also got the shredder and pasta attachments right away. it's nice not to have to use the box grater if i make a big batch of mac & cheese or quesadillas or something. also like avoiding the pre-shredded mozzerella for pizza.

homemade pasta is tight, too. you can cut your noodles while the water boils and they'll cook in like 2 minutes.

>> No.18677525

>>18677467
I have taken it though. I own one. Why would you word your post that way and wrongly assume that I haven't taken the stand mixer pill?

>> No.18677542

i have one. its too big for my kitchen and im not always making bread and shit so its not really necessary and sits in my garage half the time. if i had a perfect kitchen with lots of room id keep it out and use it more.

>> No.18677554

I own one and use it fairly regularly, currently looking into attachments but they are all expensive as h*ck.

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>>18677467
>>18677487
>>18677525

>> No.18677583

>>18677557
I have a mixer already

>> No.18677781

>>18677583
Did you paid for it?

>> No.18677843

>>18677490
Me too. I mostly only cook for myself, so they're too big for the small batches I usually work with. It's obvious in retrospect.

>> No.18677912

>>18677781
I have one that I did not pay for, it was given to me by a guy I worked with, just because I am that great, I guess. I don't know where he got it, I don't care. But I use it all the time, and I did get several attachments for it and they have been excellent.

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>>18677467
>at parents for Thanksgiving
>helping mom make my chicken enchilada recipe
>getting ready to shred cooked chicken breasts
>"I head you can just put it in the stand mixer with the beater paddle"
>doubt.mp3
>she decides to try it anyway
>mfw it actually fucking works

>> No.18678036

>>18677994
Did it shred them or just mash them up? Pretty neat trick if they came out well

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>>18677467
I've been using a stand mixer for 25 years

>> No.18678069

>>18678036
It shredded them better in just a few seconds than I could have done by hand in 15 minutes.
Just make sure to fully cook them first (I actually boil mine), put them in one at a time, and empty the bowl every now and then to make it easier on the machine.

>> No.18678083

>>18678069
I will try a stand mixer for shredding chicken next time. I brown the meat first, then add liquid and simmer/poach. It gets more flavor into the end product, and makes chicken salad with toasted almonds a gourmet side.

>> No.18678097

>>18678083
Sounds like a plan anon.
I should also mention I always cut chicken breasts into 2 or 3 pieces, to make sure they cook thoroughly. I'm sure that makes it easier on the mixer also.

>> No.18678103

>>18678083
>>18678069
>>18678036
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DebL1gUXGMc

>> No.18678122

>>18678069
i had no idea they were that strong. I asked for a refurbished one for xmas, but if my wife doesn't buy it i'll go get one. I thought it was exclusively a bread machine.

>> No.18678136

>>18678122
Yikes. Maybe you should ask for your balls back instead.

>> No.18678150

is kitchen aid actually worth it? or are they a meme status symbol for middle aged women?
I've been looking at the kenwood models instead but everyone yaps on about direct vs indirect motor power, any opinions?

>> No.18678152

>>18678136
they're freshly sucked and tender, please be nice

>> No.18678170

>>18678150
Kenwood is probably one of the better brands. My understanding is that the cheap no name brands work but they slide around the counter and you have to hold them basically. Kitchenaids shouldn't do that, and you know they are going to be pretty powerful while with unknown brands it might be a gamble. Also kitchenaids supposedly last longer and are higher quality, and since they are more popular it's easier to have them serviced or replace parts. Plus they have all the extra attachments you can get over time pasta makers and shit.

>> No.18678178

My mother-in-law gave me her stand mixer because she hadn’t used it in 10 years, collecting dust, and I make a lot of desserts. I’m very grateful but I’m also a bit intimidated by the mixer, if I’m being honest. I’m thinking about making a batch of espresso chip cookies from a modified Tollhouse recipe, because I need to make 3 cheesecakes next week for a social event and I want to start using it.

Since it’s pretty old, are there any differences with an Epicurean mixer and the others?

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>>18678170
old women have created a third-party market for mixers rivaling honda civic ricers.
custom paint, underglow, nail clippers etc

>> No.18678301

>>18678103
wow

>> No.18678335

i obught a 6qt kitchen aid pro, but when I try to make enough for a single loaf of bread, the dough hook doesn't mix the bottom of the dough and ball it. I think this is because the batch is too small for the bowl. i shoulda got a 5qt mixer even though the motor is worse

>> No.18678357

>>18678335
Can't you adjust the height?

>> No.18678408

since I learned the hack of using a cordless drill as a stick blender I've been wondering if you can use one of these as a stand mixer

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>>18678408
forgot picture

>> No.18678443

>>18678421
If you can attach a dough hook to it and can fasten a mixing bowl beneath it, then I don't see why not.

>> No.18678611

>>18678335
You should be able to adjust the height. Should’ve been part of your first-time setup.

>> No.18678789

>>18678335
I have the same problem. Solution: Just make 2 loaves at once. Or a bigger loaf.

>> No.18678902

>>18678611
>>18678335
you mean the little adjustment screw? mine is fucking stuck and wont budge, also I don't think the adjustment would change the dough hook's clearance that much anyway. I read some people start off wit the flat beater and then switch to dough hook

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>>18678902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpMCjFAiBI

You're supposed to adjust the height first thing out of the box...

>> No.18679304

is there any benefit to a twin electric hand mixer over an electric single/stick beater?
mainly for whipping purposes

>> No.18679366

>>18677843
You just saved me a bunch of money. Didn't even consider that

>> No.18679803

>>18678914
my mixer already passes the dime test with the flat beater... Like I said the clearance of the dough hook still doesn't reach the bottom because the portions I used was too small

>> No.18680123

>>18678150
>>18678170
If you want to go heavy duty without going commercial, the swedish ankarsrum assistant is a great machine. rather costly upfront 500/600 usd but I prefer it over the kitchenaid models

>> No.18680135

>>18678178
>any differences with an Epicurean mixer
I think it's just the next step up from their artisan series with a little beefier motor. Should be fine to use other than running it beforehand to get the dust moving around inside the motor casement

>> No.18680156

Did
>Refurbished Professional 600™ Series 6 Quart Bowl-Lift Stand Mixer
>Sale: $219.99

>> No.18680208

>>18680156
Nice find. How do you like it? Use any of the attachments?

>> No.18680247

>>18677467
>>18677912
this post feels like some kind of shill/bot post. i got some shitty hand mixer for 8 bucks and its never let me down, although i almost never use it. especially the attachments part, what are you going to attach to it? it just stirs shit. i don't use mine much either. it is a nice tool but no way i'm spending 100 bucks on one either

>> No.18680499

>>18677490
>>18677843
>>18679366
Why on earth aren't you making your own bread? Mix flour, water, yeast, butter and salt for 10 minutes, let it rise, beat it down, let it rise again, shove it in the oven.

Zero effort, almost no cleaning, so much better and 5x cheaper.

>> No.18680661

>>18677467
>>18677487
Buying one for bread is the wrong call. A bread machine will knead bread better for cheaper
>>18680247
>especially the attachments part, what are you going to attach to it?
you attach the attachments to it, that's where they got the name

>> No.18680666

>>18679304
>whipping
no, the stick blender does that fine
but for cookie dough yes
IMO if you have no mixer and no blender you're better off getting a mixer than a blender. Pureed soups and smoothies are OK but don't justify more appliances.

>> No.18680672

>>18677467
cheap plastic housings and nylon gears.

>> No.18680681

>>18680672
>has never seen one IRL
they just don't have plastic housings anon, 0 kitchenaid stand mixer models have plastic housings.
i still like replies like yours because they make it easy to remember everyone online is a nigger

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>>18680672
The nylon gears are made that way so they wear down and can be replaced before you permanently damage the screw gear, which if damaged means you need a new mixer entirely.
Retarded faggot.

>> No.18680721

>>18680672
How DARE you speak poorly of nylon. Nylon is a wonder material. Where my nylon chads at?
No friction let's goooo

>> No.18680742

>>18677467
We call them kitchen robots over here, my mom uses it all the time for baking

>> No.18680753

>>18680681
never seen a newer kitchen mixer that doesn't uses plastic. that are usually vacuum platted or layered aluminum housings with plastic mounts and gearboxes.
>>18680694
that is what keys are for on gears. the keys are supposed to shear when they get overloaded.
>>18680721
nylon is good in low torque high speed applications. the teeth shear off at high touque. just think of the last consumer hand drill you used. the thing shears teeth all the time.

>> No.18680767

>>18677467
My mixer has started tripping circuit breakers. I assume the gearbox grease has turned to sludge after twenty years and overtaxed the motor. Alas.

>> No.18680808

>>18680753
And if they are metal in this application it ruins other parts of the mixer, once again they were designed that way to prevent catastrophic failure of the mixer.
You retard.

>> No.18680846

>>18680808
source?

>> No.18680854

>>18677487
Pasta. Get some semolina flour. Look online for a bulk supplier. The closest one to me sells it in 1-50 pound sacks for $1.38/pound. The dough is just semolina and water. With the pasta roller attachment you want ~1:1.25 ratio of water to semolina. With the extruder attachment you want it much dryer, about ~1:3 water to semolina. My ballpark is 100g semolina per person. That generally allows for a very filling meal with some leftovers. It dries very well and keeps for ages. A batch takes about 15 minutes of active time using the roller/cutter, and about 30 minutes using the extruder.

>> No.18680855

>>18680846
KA customer support when you ask if they make metal gears over nylon ones.
It's literally designed to be retard proof and leak oil into your food before you permanently damage the internals.

>> No.18680950

>>18678048
are you me?

mine looks and works like the day I bought it
buying quality is always a good decision
and everyone truly into cooking will have one of these

>> No.18680968

>>18679803
That doesn't make sense. It's either low enough to reach it or it isn't.

>> No.18680988

>>18680968
A larger volume of ingredients will stir up the bottom in the vortex. When the volume is too small, there's a dead spot.

>> No.18681084

>>18678408
You'd need a planetary gear thing like the KitchenAid has. Otherwise you're just spinning in place without revolving. It might work for some basic tasks, but having the mixing tool revolve around the bowl is key. You'd also need to calibrate this with the size and shape of your mixing bowl. Not impossible, but not as straightforward as throwing a whisk in your cordless drill.

>> No.18681089

>>18680855
KitchenAid customer support sounds like an unbiased source, I for one believe thisanon. If they used nylon even though it was weaker than steel because it was cheaper to fabricate, they would be legally obligated to tell you. And customer service contact centers are a demanding business that accept only the highest caliber of applicant, so there's not even a real concern that the KA customer rep could have truthful intentions but be mistaken. I think I read that Kitchenaid won't hire a CSR unless they're either an electrical engineer, a mechanical engineer, or a licensed nylonologist.

>> No.18681094

>>18681089
I don't know why you're arguing so hard. Sacrificial components are a standard feature in machine design.

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Any other Hobart bros? Inhereited from my grandma and really enjoy it

>> No.18681152

>>18681122
SOVL
>>18677467
SOVLESS

>> No.18681177

>>18681122

I picked one up from an estate sale for $100 with extra attachments, bowls, and a grinder attachment. It works very well! Way better than the tilt heads

>> No.18681211

>>18680968
dough hooks aren't supposed to reach the bottom like beaters...

https://youtu.be/AFMXtuUtM3w?t=112

>> No.18681694

>>18681211
Obviously. But it reaches low enough that it mixes anything above half a centimeter high. Unless he's only using like an ounce of dough it shouldn't be a problem as long as it's calibrated correctly.

>>18680988
You know you're supposed to use a rubber spatula and knock down the dough intermittently right? Eventually it becomes kneaded enough that it forms on its own but for a while you keep moving everything towards the center with the spatula every couple of minutes.

>> No.18681801

on cyber monday I told myself I was only gonna buy one appliance, and it was either the stand mixer or a instant pot pressure cooker (that doubled as an air fryer).
I went with the instant pot because it sounded more useful and I'm using the shit out of it; maybe eventually I'll get a mixer

>> No.18682811

>>18680661
>you attach the attachments to it, that's where they got the name
i mean i already said this but it just stirs shit. i can think of very little things you could attach to it, the most useful being a shitty blender

>> No.18683111

>>18677467
handheld does the same job and is easier to clean

>> No.18683150

The pro 600 is decent enough for low hydration bread, and all the piss easy normal baked goods. It'll last forever if you repack the gearbox with grease every 5 years or so. If you have the money and actually bake every flour product you eat (which you should, it's easy) getting a used Hobart n50 or a new famag IM-5 spiral mixer is worth it. The loud whiny motor and poor high hydration kneading get annoying with consumer grade shit, but it'll get the job done if you can't afford nicer

>> No.18683169

>>18681122
These are the shit, you could probably pass that on to your kids

>> No.18683322

>>18681694
If it's a dough the entire quantity wraps around the dough hook and isn't getting kneaded anymore. If it's a batter the dead spot simply isn't getting mixed without repeatedly stopping the mixer for manual stirring.

>> No.18683367

I make my ma cry a lot through other means, but 4 christmases ago I got her an all-metal stand mixer and she hugged me.

>> No.18683423

>>18682811
Not the OP, but I kinda regret passing up one from the person moving out of the house I'm in. I always assumed it's just a mixer and I'd never use it, since I have no problem mixing by hand, the thing takes up ungodly amount of counter space and, i just dont bake. The attachments you can get like the shredder was cool and I can definitely use, even the pasta maker... but the meat grinder attachment, I'm still kicking myself in the head over. It's kind of a super versatile machine, and while I still dont think I would have used the mixing portion of the device, everything else it can do would have probably made me use it for those rare but simple tasks like making brownies/cookies.

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Way ahead of you, anon. Chocolate chip cookies.

>> No.18683540

>>18677467
I have the exact same one as in your pic. The thing is great, especially for performing otherwise tedious and boring tasks like kneading. Just put the ingredients in and wait. I'll do like 5-10min of hand kneading afterwards but the difference is immense between doing just that or a full half hour kneading session. Sure you can do it all by hand, it's a great workout and I have done it often but in reality it stops you from even making something in the first place because it's so time consuming

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>>18683528
Yeap. I do pasta all the time on my bitch.

>> No.18684052

>>18683633
>he doesn't have the pasta roller or extruder attachments for his mixer
wew

>> No.18684069

>>18684052
Those are worthless and expensive. You have to be a giant asshole not to buy an Atlas 150.

>> No.18684099

>>18684069
>Worthless
>Expensive
That doesn't add up to me. I think they have worth

>> No.18684146

>>18684099
How does shitty sound then? They're fucking junk. I own a Kitchenaid Mixer and I wouldn't attach a goddamn thing to it. Everything else is better and cheaper. That make sense to you now? JFC you people are idiots.

>> No.18684556

>>18678150
whatever you get just make sure its heavy

>> No.18684869

>>18681089
>t. has never used or looked at machines made for long term use.
Sacrificial parts are very common and encouraged to use because it protects the more expensive components from damage.
You're honestly retarded.

>> No.18685190

>>18683528
great looking cookies
horrible sugar cereal
and unbelievably shitty floor

>> No.18686037

>>18677490
>>18677843
This is exactly why I've been putting off on buying one. It's ok if I get a kitchen gadget and only use it 3 times a year if it costs like 10 bucks. Not 300 or whatever lmao

>> No.18686068

>>18677467
OP was the impostor

>> No.18686217

>>18684146
This, all the attachments are fucking garbage.

>> No.18686303

i dont bake. That's a slippery slope to becoming a fat cunt

>> No.18686346

>>18677467
I dont eat many carbs anymore. No point in owning a mixer

>> No.18686734

Eh, got one for my wife for Christmas a few years ago and while it's very useful for baking and occasionally other things, I legitimately don't understand how people claim to use them all the time unless they're baking daily. Most of the attachments for other types of cooking are overpriced plastic dogshit, I'd rather bust out my hand crank pasta roller for example than use the one they make for this thing.

>> No.18686752

>>18683322
>If it's a dough the entire quantity wraps around the dough hook and isn't getting kneaded anymore.
This is normal, you're supposed to let it keep going and it'll work its way off the hook, assuming you're not just completely fucking up your ratios.

>> No.18686897

>>18678421
This is basically what industrial mixers are like but the head has extra articulation

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>>18678187

>> No.18687047

2 words: counter space

>> No.18687856

>>18687047
Do you have just a really tiny kitchen or are you one of those subhuman that leave every appliance out already?

>> No.18687969

>>18678408
Thats kind of retarded, the bearings in a drill arent meant to handle the side loads you're going to be putting on them. Drills are not routers.

>> No.18688035

>>18677490
im the opposite. really happy i bought it and went with the lifted bowl model

>> No.18688167

>>18687856
People who shit about a mixer but have a goddamn fucking fucking rice cooker. Drives me insane.

>> No.18688180

>>18677467
My kitchenaid stand mixer died because I was trying to use it to knead dough for 10 minutes straight.

The bread turned out pretty good though but now I have to figure out how to fix my fucking mixer so I can make christmas cookies...

>> No.18688203

>>18677467
I'm not really sure what I'd use it for other than baking sweets and I'm already fat enough.

>> No.18688217

>>18688180
Replace the shear gear, probably. Half this thread is talking about it.

>> No.18688541

>>18688167
Just have both

>> No.18688545

>>18688541
And leave them sitting out permanently

>> No.18688559

>>18688545
That's what I do.

I have a fair amount of countertop space though.

Coffee maker, blender, toaster oven, microwave, stand mixer, rice cooker.

Tucked away that can be brought out as needed, ice cream maker, immersion blender, waffle irons (two of them), and vacuum sealer.

>> No.18688801

>>18677994
Yep, I do this when I make tortilla soup. I use the hand mixer to shred the chicken. Also, you can shred it hot instead of having to wait for it to cool to do by hand.

>> No.18688804

>>18678048
Dam, I have the same recipe cards with my grandmas recipes on them.