/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18641213

yes. wouldn't mind some retard bacon now that you mention it

Who cares. We are the alpha species, they taste good, it is our right of natural selection to eat them

>>18641213
>So if a human was less intelligent than a pig would it be okay to turn her into bacon?
yes

Can't be vegan for religious reasons.

the neat part is i don't gotta explain myself

>>18641223
>things are right how they are because... they just are!

not an argument

>>18641213
I shrimply do not buy meat, eggs, milk, etc from places like this. It's not hard to shop local but it can be expensive depending on what you want.

I really do want to wean myself off of meat, but it's very hard to do. Vegan alternatives continue to be absurdly expensive, and growing your own food is becoming more difficult due to states making it illegal to grow produce in your own yard. Also, meat here is quite cheap, I can feed a family of 4 for only 10 dollars. I'm sorry, it's just more convenient.

>>18641213
>tries to outlogic the natural order
okay have fun with your gay little vegetarian lifestyle

Vegan alternatives are more expensive. But They really shouldn't be. In time the market will have vegan meats cheaper than real ones.

>>18641228
Of course you can be vegan for religious reasons. You just need to invent the right religion.

>>18641213
>name the trait present/lacking in animals that if present/lacking in humans would justify eating them
They are animals.

>>18641335
>>18641228
Forcing religion onto people or animals is wrong

Factory farming or stoning people to death
>>18641260
You don’t eat at restaurants?

Is it ethical to kill something that doesn’t want to die? That’s lived a fraction of its life?
>>18641261
That’s isn’t a justification though.
Obviously slavery is cheaper than paying people….
>>18641275
Rape and murder are natural…..
>>18641303
I agree but animal products are subsidized. You are right soy milk shouldn’t be double the price of cow milk per ounce. Make it yourself?
>>18641335
Blacks should be enslaved and whites should not because we are white and they are black!

Arbitrary lines …….

>>18641348
Being an animal isn't a religious distinction or an arbitrary one. You can try to parse thing out and get philosophically sophmoric, but at the end of the day it just comes down to animals being animals. That's all it is. I'm sure the way we view animals will change at some point in the future, but we're just not there yet, and no argument is going to change that.

>>18641348
>Obviously slavery is cheaper than paying people…
We're all slaves anyway, since they pay us in useless currency. We're just a step away from being forced to live in Amazon sheds, getting paid with amazon funbucks so we can eat edible cardboard to survive. IDC anymore.

>>18641213
>Name the trait present/lacking in animals that if present/lacking in humans would justify eating them.
The ability to ask me in human language not to eat them
I won't eat a parrot or a crow who can ask not to be eaten

>>18641213
don't care. sorry
>you're mean :( waaah!
yea.

>>18641365
So a person who can’t speak dies??
>>18641370
Ok
>>18641355
This is not a real argument you are making here.
>>18641359
Yes fiat currency is a fraud. That doesn’t justify animal exploitation

>>18641384
>this is not a real argument you are making here
I've been through every argument every vegan has ever made. At the end of the day all it comes down to is the fact that animals are animals. That's the way we view them, and that's why it's different. No matter what any vegan tries to argue it always comes down to some non-rational, gut reaction they've had to seeing animals in cages or looking at meat and getting the idea in their head that it's disgusting. If you haven't had that gut reaction all arguments will fall flat. Call it a Wittgensteinian "argument" if you want. That's just how things are.

>>18641384
>So a person who can’t speak dies??
A person who can't speak, write or communicate with sign language?
No, that's illegal

I'm gonna eat even more meat now, just to spite you, OP. I'll make sure to get chicken hearts and livers, and cow livers too, to make some delicious patê, so that more of those tasty animals get killed and even more are bred to become meat for me.

>>18641402
You can be a psychopath and still reason your way to veganism.

Your argument is literally it is what it is.

It’s what people would have said to defend slavery. They are just blacks….

>>18641408
A person who is disabled to the point where they cannot communicate.
Animals have ways of communicating even if they are sometimes different than ours.

You could say if people don’t communicate with English they don’t deserve rights. Completely arbitrary

>>18641348
Man was given dominian over the earth and the beasts and St. Peter was told to "rise... kill and eat". This is all due to our fallen nature, as if Adam and Eve had not tasted of the Tree of Knowledge we would have lived in such harmony with animals that lions would rest their heads on our laps.
since that is not so and cannot be until the end of time, God in His great mercy has allowed us to sustain ourselves on the creatures that are not created in His image.

Funny how atheist vegans seem to always be the biggest moralfags

>>18641418
>Animals have ways of communicating even if they are sometimes different than ours.
not good enough
if hey dont want to get eaten they should be polite enough to say it
by the way if someone couldnt communicate at all i would kill him out of mercy if it was legal

>>18641213
>over 99%
So 100%? That's simply untrue sir.

>>18641433
No as in greater than 99 but less than 100
>>18641422
But you can’t prove your religion it’s faith.
And you want to force it onto animals.
People too? Are we going to stone people to death and take away people’s rights Too?
>>18641430
Why is that funny? It makes sense
>>18641432
Anyone looking honestly at this will disagree with you. Arbitrary and cruel

>>18641348
>>>18641260
>You don’t eat at restaurants?
not him but i dont eat at shit restaurants that serve factory farmed meat and eggs that have traversed the entire country to get here. most places that arent complete shit source their meat and produce locally and ethically and are usually quite boastful of this in their menus and advertising

>>18641442
>Anyone looking honestly at this will disagree with you. Arbitrary and cruel
1you can't possibly prove this
2i don't care

>>18641348
Are you saying you know better than the Lord, your God? It seems to me as though you've not lived a life worthy of His, or even my, attention.

I have my own pigs, sheeps, chickens and hunt faggot.

>>18641442
I can prove my religion and of course we are going to "take away people's rights". Animals already worship the One True God, you just cannot hear their praise of Him.

Factory farms are just a reflection of an entire botched culture, wouldn't you agree? Where you seek some kind of petty liberation of livestock you do not seem to consider at all the real tradeoffs. You are also damn fool if you think you are advocating some kind primitive or back to nature thing with veganism. My primate ancestors ate meat so will I. I will not push synthetic evolution any further.

tldr; nobody is in love with bitter realities of this world but cattle for man and man for cattle, i will still eat meat farmed this way or not. your masochism is no form of effective protest

vegan many years now and going stronk awww yea

>>18641473
>I will not push synthetic evolution any further
factory farming involves the most synthetic evolution in history. animals are selectively bred on an industrial scale