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Mexico

>>18513502
It's all just different ways of combining meat cheese beans and tortillas

>>18513502
A good starting point for getting into Mexican food is the answer to this riddle: What kind of cheese is not yours?

>>18513512
and tomatoes, peppers, onions, sour cream, cilantro, lime, avocado, cumin, etc.

>>18513512
>>18513530
Wow, that's a lot of ingredients! There must be so many combinations out there.

>>18513537
I forgot lettuce, rice, tomatillos, garlic...
I'm sure there's more

>>18513502
Do not start with seafood unless you like limes and clam juice.

>>18513544
chocolate, cinnamon, tamarind, shrimp, octopus, eggs, anise, corn, condensed milk, rice, pomegranates, soursop, guava, agave, cactus paddle, hibiscus, mango, vanilla, lard, lentils, chickpeas

-tacos al pastor
-chile relleno
-paleta
there you go, OP

remember that texmex and mexican are different, so be aware some people will call you retarded for asking about one thing in the context of another.

>>18513502
The Sombrero first.

obviously tacos & burritos are the classics.
ceviche is a great mexican dish, it's like zesty sushi.
mole negro is an uncommon but wonderful mexican dish.
tamales are great as well.

>>18513502
Gonto Mexico.
Whatsapp me +52 232 1A006117 A

>>18513530
Sour cream its not real a ingredient in Mexico.

>>18513793
Burritos are from USA. Not Mexico.

>>18513755
>The Sombrero

>>18513852
>Sour cream its not real a ingredient in Mexico.
Seems unlikely.
https://super.walmart.com.mx/search?q=cCrea+agria

>>18513856
>Burritos are from USA. Not Mexico.
Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrito#History

>>18513873
Is this real?

>>18513891
I found it on the interwebs, so it must be.

>>18513888
We dont put sour cream in our tacos

>>18514025
>We dont put sour cream in our tacos
So? I do. Chili too.

>>18514095
To be clear: I put sour cream on my chili.

>>18514025
>>18514095
Sour cream is a gringo thing. Flautas can have crema on top of them. But not inside them.

>>18513502
Eatvreal tacos and tamales

>>18513506
Now Mexico

How is mole?

>>18513502
Start with the basics like tacos and burritos. Mexican cuisine doesn’t use a lot of ingredients.

>>18513502
Cook with dried chiles and fresh peppers. Buy whole. Heat and soak the dried chilis before cooking.
Where do you live, OP? In my experience, europeans have a very hard time cooking Mexican food because it's very rare for a European to have eaten a meal that a Mexican would make for themselves.

>>18513530
>peppers, cumin, sour cream
You are thinking of American food

>>18518682
Peppers are uncommon in Mexico

>>18513502
make a run anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltXZD3sXcpA

>>18518869
Back when commercials had SOUL

>>18518822
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>18519857
Authentic Mexican cuisine uses very few chilis, if at all. You need to stop thinking in terms of stereotypes, they obscure the true world and make you look like an idiot.

>>18513793
>ceviche is a great mexican dish
It’s Peruvian, bro

>>18520493
Retard.

>>18513523
Nachmy cheese.

>>18520616
What does nachmy cheese taste like?

>>18519857
https://www.mccormickscienceinstitute.com/resources/culinary-spices/herbs-spices/black-pepper

>>18520493
Chilis are not peppers but yeah Mexican cuisine doesn't use chilis as much as non-Mexicans think.

>>18521635
Black pepper isn't the only type of pepper, what is your point?

>>18513502
mexifaggot here.
mexican cuisine isnt what the average gringo thinks it is.
if by "tacos" you imagine a radiactively yellow u-shaped hard tortilla filled with lettuce beans cream shitty shredded cheese and some shit-grade meat you're thinking of texmex.
mexican food is vast and different across the country.
faggots up north eat nothing but carne asada with huge flour tortillas and this is why tacos and burritos are huge since they share a border with burgers.
around the center of the country they eat a lot more complex food: a very wide variety of veggies with a wide variety of salsas, animal broths and a handful of spices. their diet was mostly corn-based with occassional animal proteins before spaniards.
southern niggers went apeshit with the corn but they also imagined shit like the mole and papadzules and lime soup.

there is no one "mexican food". go roadtripping across mexico for 2 weeks and you'll find each area is wildly different to the next one.

>>18521741
see>>18518822
>>18521638

>>18521771
>papadzules
Loos good.

>>18513502
The best Mexican food is very simple. I would start learning how to make good flour tortillas (or corn, but I prefer flour), grilling some thin steaks or chicken, chopping it up and serving with a couple of different homemade salsas with cilantro/onion + limes on the side. Serve with cold beer. These kind of simple taquerias that do one thing really well are the most common type of food in Mexico and can be among the best as well.

>>18521612
I don't know because I'm not allowed to have any. Dude was just making the na Cho cheese joke but he worded it weird so I had to make up a word.

>>18514025
False
t. Mexican

>>18518822
>>18520493
This is false.
t. Mexican

>>18513512
>>18513537
No, it pretty much all goes into the same thing.

All jokes aside, try Oaxacan stuff if you find it. They're the food capital of Mexico and all the Mexicans in my kitchen are from there. They make killer fucking soup.

>>18513502
You've never had a caesar salad? That's Mexican cuisine.

>>18513696
>>18513852
>>18513856
>>18514025
>>18514504
>>18518817
>>18520493
>>18521771
Cringe. Mexican cuisine is not about grinding your own maize and refrying beans and subsisting. It's about crushing up some of those Doritos the gringos made and adding them to your "authentic" recipe of whatever abuela felt like putting together today, because it tastes good. The only people seething about authenticity are the same ones who seethe about wipipo wearing sombreros and are probably cartel mules or migrants mad at ICE for deporting them back here, not true loyal Mexicans.

corn tortilla. munster cheese inside enchilada. sauce for enchilada.

>>18513502
If you make your own, don’t use baked beans. Use pinto or black beans (that is more SoCal but it’s still good and idk what’s available to you). Idk where you are from but I’ve known two yuros who tried making Mexican food with Heinz baked beans because they didn’t know better and they and found it disgusting.

>>18524385
Sorry but I like authenticity.

>>18514504
Mexicans LITERALLY have a sour cream called Crema. They invented it, their version is just a tad sweeter and more liquidy. Therefore it is not a Gringo thing,

>>18513537
kek

>>18513502
Start by going to Mexico

>>18526199
crema isn't sour cream

>>18513852
Sour cream isn't traditional but Daisy brand sour cream has run successful ad campaigns in Mexico. Newer recipes DO use sour cream wherever you might use crema Mexicana.

>>18526272
Yeah, not exactly but very similar.

>>18526272
Sour cream is better and can be subbed in any situation

>>18513502
Pozole is, in my humble opinion, the quintessential mexican dish. Seems like a good start to me.

>>18528002
So you agree it is not sour cream

>>18528008
Real tacos and enchiladas are dope

>>18513852
cream is you fucking turbo nigger god i hate you so much

>>18526199
Crema is crema. Not sour cream.

>>18524604
Cheese is on top of enchiladas. Not inside.

>>18528008
Good shout, also tortilla soup is amazing

If crema was just sour cream then there would be no need to label and sell crema agria in Mexican markets

>>18528102
I wasn't that anon. But what's the issue with saying crema is Mexico's version of sour cream?

>>18528319
Crema is not sour cream.
Crema acida its not sour cream.
Deal with it.

>>18528417
Thank you for the compelling argument.

>>18528417
>sour cream is not sour cream
Go eat some bugs, Diego.

>>18528439
Wow

>>18528236
What defines a real taco?

>>18529606
a real hand made corn tortilla

Casa Bonita

>>18513625
mexican seafood is unironically the best thing about Mexican food.
>>18524330
That's incorrect. Meixco City would be the food capital, followed by Baja California.

>>18529616
but flour tortilla is better

>>18521771
This guy is a larp. He knows nothing about Mexican food

>>18513675
Mole is not chocolate. Foreigners have this misconception

>>18513502
If you can travel here then please do. We have great national and regional food. Seafood, livestock, soups, pastries, we got it all. Food is one of the few things that makes Mexicans proud of ourselves.

A lot of Americans and chicanos are outing themselves by just generally saying “cheese” and “beans”. There is a myriad of different specific cheeses and beans from México and they vary wildly. Also peppers change their spicy-ness and flavor when you smoke them, they also get new names when you do that.

Mexican essential cooking is very simple and basically comes down to preparing basic ingredients and combining them. The problem is that in many parts of the world you can’t get good tortillas or avocados. Also salsas come in an infinite range of varieties. They do not have specific names other than the method used to make them (of which there are several). But they are referred to by the types of peppers and tomatoes used. And there are a lot of peppers too, each with there own flavor and level of spice. Also spicy-ness should not be something you do to punish yourself. We usually know our own tolerances and our food is made so that we accompany it with ingredients that make far more tolerable. It’s like a third level of nuance that walks with flavor and texture.

>>18513675
Forgot to say but thanks for including condensed milk. It is cocaine but for fat people

>>18530045
not him It's used for Carnitas in certain places of Mexico. Coke as well

>>18514095
>>18514103
>>18513888

These people are flyover Americans. Please ignore

>>18513512
>>18513537
>>18518604
This ignores the fact we have multiple specific ways of preparing the meats. Different cheeses. We have unique ingredients that come from our country like avocados, mole, tomatoes, 90% of the worlds peppers. We have tequila, mezcal, and wines. There are types of tortillas and types of corn. These are just Americans who’s only understanding of Mexican food is Tex mex. The sour cream autist prove that. Fast food junkies.

>>18530048
I’ve never heard it used for meat. I only know it from candies. I’m from Monterrey so maybe that’s why

>>18513512
Things white people say

>>18513502
Menudo

Going to post some foods that why you fags know Mexican food better than 90% of the people in the world

cahuamanta. a manta ray soup eaten for hangovers in Sonora. Sometimes it's made with tuna and shrimp and blood sausage is added

>>18530084
chiles aguacalientes. a stuffed pepper filled with fruits, nuts, pork and topped with guava cream sauce. made in aguascalientes

>>18530072
I forgot to mention but I think it’s cool how we use fish from both the Atlantic and pacific

>>18530093
mole alcaparrado. a caper mole made with mainly new world ingredients from oaxaca

>>18530099
almeja gratinada. a stuffed clam dish made with cheese, soy sauce/maggi and sometimes crab/steak/octopus from baja california

>>18530116
Pozole verde. a pork and hominy stew made with pumpkin seeds, green peppers, herbs, tomatillos and sometimes with sardines from guerrero.has 2 times the garnishes/sides that other pozoles have

>>18530123
volovanes. basically a vol-au-vent found in the streets of veracruz. made with pineapple, chorizo, crab, cheese and adobo.

>>18530135
pescado zarandeado whole fish cooked in a grill basket. there's many places that make this but the best one has to be from sinaloa that makes it with an adobo of mayo, mustard, soysauce and spices

>>18530147
chorizo verde. a green chorizo from toluca made with pumpkin seeds, herbs, poblano peppers and nuts.

>>18530151
tacos arabes. a pork taco that uses a pita like flatbread instead of corn and topped with a type of sour cream and a sweet and smoke chipotle sauce. originated in puebla

>>18530159
caldo de queso. a cheese and potato soup from sonora.

>>18530164
lengua en pebre. beef tongue in a saffron sauce only made in a specific region in chiapas

>>18530176
why are you doing what you're doing

>>18530176
torre de marisco. bascially a seafood tower made with black sauces and other ingredients. very popular in sinaloa. taking a break now. will post more in a couple of hours

>>18530189

>>18530159
I love these things but none of the dozens of mexican places around me have them.

>>18513502
Go for the crunchy tacos

>>18513502
Mexican mommy will show you the way.

>>18532056
What is the appeal of soft shell tacos?

>>18530147
This all looks very good and is nothing like the cooking my family does, fascinating!

Aguachile
Birria
Chile verde
Sopa de fideo
Enchiladas
Micheladas
Tostilocos

>>18534304
This is normally a dish cooked grilled and usually made by men. very popular in nayarit, sinaloa, baja california and sonora

>>18530193
What's the black sauce made of?

>>18530031
Some mole is.

>>18537473
soy sauce, maggi, Worcestershire, lime , hot sauce and more stuff

>>18513502
Don't bother, it's really bland. What you want is Americanized Mexican food, southern California and tex-mex kinda stuff.

Go to your local super market, buy a pack of generic taco seasoning and a pound of lean ground beef. Buy some guacamole, sour cream, a pack of 'fiesta blend' shredded cheese or any blend that indicates it's hispanic. A hot sauce like Valentina, Cholula, Tapatio, or my personal favorite El Yucateco (the red bottle). Finally get some tortillas, the biggest you can find.

To cook, brown the ground beef while seperating it with a spatula until it turns into pebbles. You can also use a potato masher. Drain. Add the packet of seasoning and mix. Take a large chunk and center it like a long fat line on a tortilla leaving space to fold. Add the hot sauce, cheese, a slab of sour cream, a slab of guacamole, and fold the tortilla (find a guide online). Eat it. This is how we make burritos in San Diego when we want something quick and easy. If you like it we can venture out into other dishes and flavors.

If you want to get crazy you can add french fries, Mexican fried rice, beans, or instead of ground beef you can use steak (carne asada), chorizo (pork sausage), or chicken (pollo asada). You can also add cilantro but I usually don't.

>>18537793
Imagine loving mediocrity this much…

>>18537937
I wouldn't call it mediocre, just a basic. If you want something more complicated I can give you one of the best carnitas taco recipes you'll ever have.

>>18537945
different anon here pls share recipe

>>18537951
Can't find it but this is pretty close: https://leitesculinaria.com/80909/recipes-carnitas-mexican-braised-fried-pork.html#recipe

I'll keep looking for mine though. Haven't made this in years.

>>18537937
>imagine falling for bait.
no one, not even americans think tex mex or cali mex is better. there is a reason why theres thousands of quesabirria stands all over the us now.

>>18537996

Dude, that's Americanised Mexican. I wouldn't be surprised if it originated in California. I knew a Mexican mom that moved to Utah and opened a Mexican restaurant that served cali-mex and it became the most popular restaurant in town. Even made it into the newspaper.

What America thinks is Mexican food originated on the American side of the border. I've eaten authentic Mexican, the kind that moms cook for dinner every night, it's basic and bland.

Caldo de Pollo con arroz is the best. My mama used to make it once a week

>>18530093
I fucking love this shit

>>18537951
Found it.

>>18538137
hmm, does it freeze well?

>>18538300
Dunno, never had any leftovers.

>>18538310
>6lb
>no leftovers
nigga...

>>18538310
BASED fatso

>>18538137
Nice. Will try this over the weekend.

>>18538089
i did not expect anyone in here to have tried that. it's delicious

>>18538013
Quesabirria is from Tijuana. nigga how new are you?

>>18538013
>California
Half of California is occupied Mexico.

>>18540505
>Quesabirria is from Tijuana. nigga how new are you?

>>18540510
>Half of California is occupied Mexico.

Exactly. Tijuana is heavily influenced by the US, a large portion of Tijuana works in the US and has family there.

I grew up in Imperial Beach, literally on the border of TJ. TJ and San Diego were almost indistinguishable. People in San Diego would wait hours in line just to fill up with the cheaper leaded gas that TJ offered.

>>18513512
Nigga that's like every country, the fuck you talkin about

>>18530031
Some mole uses chocolate you retard, and chocolate is used in a lot of desserts.

>>18541049
I like the chocolate and animal crackers mole

>>18541049
Cacao is not chocolate you fucking puppy

>>18540898
>Exactly. Tijuana is heavily influenced by the US, a large portion of Tijuana works in the US and has family there.
It works both ways, moron. The earliest account of quesabirria was in the late 1990's. quesabirria hype in the US started happening in the 2010's. you won't find quesabirria anywhere in the US before 2010.

>>18538013
Your mom is a terrible cook bro. Sorry to brake it to you. Did she ever make you soups? Did your dad own a grill?

>>18541426
This is one of the first chicano trucks that sold Tijuana style birria
>https://foodgps.com/teddys-red-tacos/
>Vazquez was born in L.A. and grew up in Puebla, Mexico. His friend runs popular Birria El Paisa in Tijuana and offered to teach Vazquez everything he knows. At the time, he was working in shipping and initially passed on the opportunity, but after business dipped, he agreed. Vazquez stews beef shoulder for three hours in broth with tomatoes, secret spices and chiles before the meat falls apart into shreds. He forms tacos and quesadillas on corn tortillas griddled with secret juices that provide their signature fire-red color. Tacos are available with chopped red onions, cilantro, and a splash of spicy red salsa made with chile de arbol. Accept all three accompaniments. Vazquez plates tacos with crunchy sliced radishes and squeezable limes. Request a cup of hot consommé chock full of beefy debris for no added charge.

>>18538050
Did you grow up with it having carrots and tomato juice in it as well?

>>18540505
Tijuana is the world’s asshole. We should make it it’s own city state.

t. Regio

>>18541455
Some parts of South Mexico is worse, nigga.

>>18541458
This is true. I only like the northeast and the center.

>>18517475
too many of them, all of them good
verde and colorado are the ones you're most likely to find in a grocery store

>>18517475
how are you in this thread and not know what mole taste?

I never understood why Tortas isn't more popular in the US. I honestly prefer them to tacos

>>18541487
que ganas de consumir estas susustttananncciiaaassssss
>verification no requirration

>>18541499
we don't like when our sandwiches have flavors because we like depriving ourselves of joy
jew and italian immigrants devised our most famous sammies

>>18540501
not him but it makes me sad how these obscure dishes will disappear in our lifetime because it's easier to make and sell the same taco or tamale for the 29297th time. Feels bad man.

>>18541442
Carrots yes but not tomato juice. Sometimes potatoes and corn

>>18541487
what is the best thing to eat with mole? for me it's either duck or enchiladas

>>18513502
Make a 'taco norteño'. Just grill your favorite piece of meat(mine is rib eye, medium), cut it in strips and put it on a flour tortilla(previously lighty cooked on the same grill until you get those light brown dots). After that add:
-melted cheese (queso manchego my favorite one)
-onion and perejil cutted.
-guacamole
-leemon(optional because guacamole already has lemmon)
Enjoy.

If you are able to get 'arrachera' meat, better.

>>18542625
I'm hungry now

>>18541542
>jew and italian immigrants devised our most famous sammies
Yeah, pretty much this. It's just a matter of who spread their cuisine first.

>>18541542
Shame. Torta de chilaquil is one of the best delights in the world

carnitas but better

>>18513502
i recommend trying chilaquiles. its an easy dish thats a breakfast staple for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH7MSS6zxe4

sorry bout the faggots

>>18544918
me gusta mas ahogadas las tortillas

>>18513512
Spoken like an American that has only ever eaten at taco bell and then sharted all the way home.

>>18537996
Cali Mex CAN be better when the comparison is small town Mexico. This has been noted by myself, my mom and aunt and even my boss's girlfriend said the same thing. The food I ate in Guadalajara and Aijijic was delicious. But the food in the smaller towns was not as good as I had anticipated. Visiting the grocery stores revealed why: some of these places didn't really have grocery stores as I would have expected. They had very small markets with a rather limited supply of goods, particularly vegetables. Lots of canned and dried goods because they did have large sections of refrigerated or frozen produce. The roads to some of these 'backwoods' places were also often in truly terrible condition and would not have supported the large refrigerated trucks that big cities would get. Which isn't to say there wasn't any good food, my uncle made some delicious tacos, cuachala was tasty, the bread and tortillas were good and fresh and everywhere I went the desserts and sweet drinks were yummy. There just wasn't the variety and consistent quality that you saw in large cities.

>>18544918
Why are egg toppings so common?

>>18513873
big if real

>>18513502

>>18513512
>Cheese
Want to know how I know you've only eat taco bell?

>>18513502
latinX food is overall very safe and boring. cheese, beans + protein then wrapped, baked or grilled with some iteration of corn. poor people food, basically.

>>18546486
You just described tex mex

>>18545239
I'm talking about cali-mex vs the mexican options you get in the US . Sinaloa style seafood, Tijuana style tacos, Oaxacan mole, goat birria from jalisco vs california mexican food. it's not even close. Even the burritos from Mexico are more liked than mission style burritos from california
https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/good-food/tortilla-tournament-of-champions-2021-winner-taco-maria-burritos-la-palma