/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18515579
And doesnt it come out better than cooking it on the stove?

>>18515584
miles better. its perfect.

I would spend the 140 usd on this shit again. Insane appliance

>>18515592
Vindication, finally. Expect it to continue working for 10+ years with regular use. It is really one of the great kitchen "unitaskers".

If you dare making chinese claypot style meals comes out great as well.

Marinade chicken, soak shiitake, add rice and correct amount of water to cooker, put all the stuff on top and cook with the mixed rice setting. Fantastic and really easy one pot meal.

>>18515579
god i really want a fucking zojirushi cause yum asia is shit, but europe doesnt get them for less than a couple hundred bucks and shipping from somewhere its affordable costs so much

>>18515607
i will absolutely try this, thank you
>>18515614
maybe itll be more reasonably priced for the holidays, two hundred is still a lot but id argue its still worth it

>>18515614
I don't know how it is in Europe but you don't need a meme magic 2023 rice cooker imported from Japan the day it releases.
The one at my mom's place is something like 15 years old and she said it was like 40 bucks when she bought it. Still works, still makes rice about the same.

>>18515579
Oh thank god a ricecooker thread.

Look sell me on these things. My mother always just put the rice in boils water. It worked but when we went to chinese places I would fucking gorge myself on white rice and soy sauce. Do rice cookers actually make the rice feel and taste like the restaurant stuff?

>>18515579
>not using the one and half day old rice to make fried rice
you lost a great chance

>>18515705
>Do rice cookers actually make the rice feel and taste like the restaurant stuff?
yes, and its better because you dont have to go out for good rice. i felt like i was breaking the bank getting mine but after one use its totally justified, and they last a really long time. wait for the holidays so you can get one on sale but if you absolutely need it now then go for it
>>18515730
i make extra rice now just to put in the fridge overnight

>>18515579
I think I really need to bite the bullet and get one, especially one of those Jap ones. I eat rice with my dinner almost every day and I’ve just been buying Uncle Ben’s rice. The quickness is great but I think just making a large batch of jasmine rice and keeping warm all day would be the best in the end.

>>18515736
>especially one of those Jap ones.
i almost got a made in china one but after reading through a shit load of reviews realized that the made in japan model is the correct choice

>>18515736
Unless you eat large amounts of unseasoned rice literally every day (or want to gaslight yourself) there's no reason to buy anything other than a $30 rice cooker from walmart. Or even better, an instant pot because instant pots make rice magnitudes more perfectly than any rice cooker and you can use it to cook other stuff.

>>18515733
Is there a huge difference between that crazy expensive one in OP and something basic like so.

https://www.amazon.com/Aroma-Housewares-Cooked-UNCOOKED-Steamer/dp/B0057XGM5W/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3BZ9ZGL6IRNAI&keywords=rice+cooker&qid=1666930457&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI2LjEzIiwicXNhIjoiNS42MyIsInFzcCI6IjUuMjcifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=rice+cooker%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-5

Just microwave your rice if you're only having one serving

>>18515753
ive had one of those black and decker rice cookers and they do the job but most of the time you get mush or uncooked rice, being able to steam isnt really worth it either

People who claim they can make rice just as good on the stove are trying to do a flex, but it's really funny because anyone who's actually used a rice cooker knows that's impossible and that they're lying. So really it's just people who've never used a rice cooker talking this horseshit to each other and believing it. It's like watching a bunch of 4th graders share "sex" stories where they take turns claiming they made a girl orgasm in five seconds and then they all believe each other because they don't have any idea how plausible it is.

>>18515768
poorfag cope is always the easiest to see through and always entertaining

>>18515747
>instant pots make rice magnitudes more perfectly than any rice cooker
Definitely false, in fact they're slightly worse. But they do do it magnitudes faster.

>>18515653
>15 years ago
A product of the same build quality would be 200+ now. Chinked out dropshitting has ruined the marked for "simple, well-built" appliances

>>18515747
>Or even better, an instant pot
op here, the major reason i sprung on a zoji was because my ip was inconsistent when cooking rice and i also wanted to make rice while using it for a better purpose. its still great but its sole purpose for existing isnt to make rice like this

>>18515787
Instant pots make a perfect seal and no steam escapes. Every drop of water you put in there is going to get forced into the rice, so your measurement better be perfect. Tiny variations in water to rice ratio make big differences in the final product. With a rice cooker, extra water gets steamed out, whereas if you have less water inside then it will steam out less. It's designed to make a perfect output from a forgiving range of starting conditions.

Which rice cooker would you recommend? Bonus points if I can get it at a normal retail store.

>>18515805
this is like being concerned about pasta water, its completely redundant. pressure cooking is great for really juicy meat but you dont need juicy rice just add a little bit more or less water for desired consistency
>>18515808
the op one

>>18515747
Instapots absolutely do not make good rice. You've never tried rice from a rice cooker like in the OP if you believe this, and if you claim otherwise I won't believe you.

>eating rice left at room temp for 1 and a half day
darwin award tier post

>>18515925
>presenting to the emergency room

Kek. I know I'm not the only with a Neuro Fuzzy on this board, but I've been praising it for so long I'm probably responsible for half a dozen purchases. I think it's about time Zojirushi sent me my check.
>>18515607
I saved the recipe you posted from the thread last week but haven't gotten around to making it yet. Just too lazy to drive to the Asian grocery store.

>>18515925
hey midwit, this was days ago
nice try though, got any other stunning insights or was this, like, your mic drop moment

>>18515925
Why would the rice be at room temp, Mr. Big Brains?

>stove
>one cup rice, two cups water, simmer 20 min, done
>intelligent rice maker with (((fuzzy))) logic
>70 minutes white rice, 210 minutes for brown rice
do nips just sit around all day waiting for rice to cook

>>18515937
Go on eating spoiled shit then, not my problem.
>>18515945
Did you put the rice cooker inside your fridge?
>m-muh heat inside the cooker
Even better for bacteria.

>>18515992
>not my problem.
yet youre upset about it because you, in your unfathomable brilliance, didnt know that the keep warm setting stays at 150˚F which prevents bacteria growth. are you done yet? what are you trying to prove here?

>>18515998
The heat cooks the toxins.

>>18515988
Nips don't make brown rice. And these devices are ideally used by families, they eat rice three meals/day and having the rice "just ready" when you're wrangling children and working long hours is a boon, and the price is fairly insignificant when (again) you're using it EVERY DAY, they only appear luxurious to American NEETs.

>>18516030
>Nips don't make brown rice.
True, which is why the rate of diabetes in Japan is 1000000x higher than everywhere else on earth.
Japan has very low obesity but extreme levels of skinnyfatness

>>18515579
spoiled rice is more toxic than most spoiled foods and considering it was on room temperature for 1 and half days it was probably spoiled

I've been fucking around lately trying various seasoning packs with rice, latest one was that cheetos mac and cheese powder. Honestly? Not bad, and orange rice looks pretty cool, interesting at the least

You can use them to make black garlic

>>18516030
>>18516061
>Nips don't make brown rice
what

>>18515705
Yes. Also wash your fucking rice. There is no excuse for not doing so.

Additionally, an instant pot is competitive with any rice cooker out there and pressure cooked rice is excellent, but even "vanilla" rice cookers can still be used for a lot of shit. Some have steamer baskets, some work well with soups and stews, and if you recall a few years ago when this image of giant pancakes was floating around, those are just made by putting pancake batter in a rice cooker. If you like to eat rice, a rice cooker will change your life. You don't NEED a Zoji despite all the /ck/ shilling, even the cheap ones will still give you pretty good rice.

>>18515607
Do you use some kind of steamer tray or do you just put the stuff directly on top of the rice with water?

>>18516099
it wasn't at room temperature for 36 hours, it was at 150F for 36 hours. Rice cookers are designed to keep the rice at that temp when they're in "keep warm" mode so that it doesn't overcook, but it also doesn't allow bacteria to grow. I've eaten several-day old rice. Quality degrades after 24 hours but it's still perfectly edible.

>>18516313
Sorry, I meant "normal nips". That kanji literally says "inferior foreign rice for aliens and homosexuals".

>>18515579
You do know that bacteria reproduce in warm and humid places, right?

>>18515805
Instant pots make shit rice regardless of how much copium you're high on.

>>18516061
>True, which is why the rate of diabetes in Japan is 1000000x higher than everywhere else on earth.
>source: i watch anime

>>18516647
Source: Japan is statistically one of the most diabetic countries on earth

>>18516779
cite your sources tardo

>>18516803
no

>>18515579

You are really a wage slave cuck to the point you consider a rice cooker as an expensive kitchen gadget

>>18515992
Retard

>>18516337
Right on top. Remember to add correct amount of water before adding anything to the pot.

>>18515926
Why the fuck has someone made a gigachad emu kek.

>>18515768
What the fuck is hard about making rice that you need a special machine to do it? It's one part rice, two parts water. Bring water to a boil. Pour rice in water and cover. Simmer 20 minutes. What the fuck is so hard about that? Lmao at you retards.

>>18517722
Yes, rice is easy to cook in the sense that it is edible and fully cooked through. Your recipe makes shitty rice and you don't know it's shitty.

The difference between edible and delicious rice is not a major difference until you are used to consistently excellent rice.

This is especially true with Japanese short grain rice. It's actually quite difficult to properly make it on the stovetop, but with a good or great rice cooker you can consistently have superb sushi rice.

>>18517747
Fuck off, weeb. Nobody gives a shit about your magic jap rice. White rice is white rice. You just believe meme shit like it takes a sushi chef a whole year to learn to make white rice in magic Nip land. It's bullshit. Your rice o matic is bullshit. And you're bullshit.

>>18515705
If you eat rice at home it's 100% worth it to pick a rice cooker up.

>>18517722
>what the fuck is so hard about making pasta? you just put it in a pot with water and boil it until it's soft lol

>>18517786
Lmao, ricelet.

>1/2 cup rice
>3/4 cup water
>Add in scoop of butter
>Spicy red pepper flakes
>Rosemary and thyme
>Bring to boil
>Reduce to low-medium
>Simmer for 12-15 mins
>Remove, fluff, cover with towel
>Let sit 5-10 mins
Wa la, perfect rice. No need for garbage chinese plastic xenoestrogen infusing toys.

>>18517901
You forgot to rinse the rice, dweeb.

>>18517905
I actually did. I put my 1/2 cup of rice in the pot, add some water, swish it good, drain it, then add the boiling water.

>>18517908
Okay, I will trust you this one time. The flavoring on your rice sounds nice for western cooking, and I take back calling you a dweeb.

I will say your recipe may be overcooking your rice just a bit.

>>18517901
>scoop
like a tablespoon?

>>18517929
I usually use hardier rice, you can probably cook it for less time if you use jasmine or something. You pretty much just cook it until the water is gone, but before it starts burning on the bottom. For me that's usually like 10-15 mins.
The towel on top afterwards is to absorb the moisture, meaning it becomes light and fluffy, not damp and sticky.
I really like to make it like that. The butter and spices infuse well.
>>18517946
About that. More if you want it richer. I'd say its down to taste, but that's a safe bet.
Its just really easy quick rice. I make it and eat it in 30 minutes and then I'm off.

>>18515584
If your stove rice is worse than cooker rice, I am happy for you that you found a rice cooker.

>>18517972
see >>18515768

>>18517950
Roughly 1:1 by weight is optimal rice to water ratio. The amount of water determines how "well done" the rice comes out. Time is dependent on amount of rice/water.

>>18518013
Depends on the rice for "optimal". Look at a bag of Jasmine (At least "Dragon King" does, though that's cheap rice) and it'll tell you 1/2 rice to 3/4 water. It works for my brown rice, too, so I just got used to it.

>>18518031
Here's the perfect stove top recipe. Perfection at a cost(time), but it is the perfect recipe. I have not tested this without soaking the rice, so that may the reason long grain rice reccomends a bit more water. The recipe works best for sumeshi(short grain rice cooked to make sushi with), but I've done it with other rice to great effect.


Perfect rice recipe
1. Weigh rice on scale note weight.
2. Rinse rice with copious amounts of room temp to cold water until water runs semi clear to clear. The more the better
3. Place rice in bowl and cover with 2-3 inches of filtered water. Wait 30 minutes or until rice appears opaque and crumbles easily when pressed between fingers.
4. Drain rice by placing in a strainer and let stand in strainer for 25 minutes.
5. Place equal parts rice and filtered water in a high walled pot. Cover rice.
6. Put heat on max temp and start a timer.
7. Once steam starts coming out of pot or water starts boiling turn heat to 2-3 or very low and cook for how long it took to reach boil.
8. Once time is up turn off heat and let sit for 15 minutes without touching.
9. Fluff rice with plastic or wooden rice scoop. Serve.

>>18518063
That's way too complex for some rice. If you're making a pot for 6 people, sure. But that's overly excessive otherwise.

What should i look for in a rice 'ooker?

>>18515764
Don't - this makes mustard gas.

>>18518069
I agree, but it is still the perfect rice cooking method. It works for any quantity unlike adding finger up to your first joint and there's no guessing when it's done.

I usually reserved it for sumeshi, but my high end zoji does a better job than even the perfect stovetop method now.

>>18518103
Well I don't deny "perfect", and I don't know what sort of rune words you just spoke but fair enough.

>>18518119
You're reasonable, that's rare around here.

Sumeshi is the Japanese word for short grain rice prepared for making sushi with. Not sure if it is a verb or a noun, but whatever. It's cooked differently than if you were to just have a bowl with some meat or something. The texture can be described almost as al dente. You can feel the chew from each individual rice grain. The texture is very delicious when done right and using excellent quality rice.

Zoji is short for zojirushi, which is the brand of rice cooker I have.

>>18518164
Ah, okay. Thanks for the explanation then.

>>18518164
Take a bath with your rice o matic, homo. Make sure it's plugged in when you do.

>>18515925
Wanna know how we know you've been talking out of your ass this entire thread?

>>18515768
>>18517722
>>18515774
I can make rice just as good on the stove, but I'm lazy and I make rice everyday, so I use the rice cooker. I kind of miss making it on the stove now. It's been a few months

>>18515579
they recommend that you throw it out after 48 hours but swear to god i've had rice in there for 5 days that was still edible
only one time have i had rice begin to smell, so idk what was wrong with it that time
but zojirushi shit is top tier, their rice cooker being so good had mebuy their coffee machine and water boiler too

>>18516313
they literally died en masse from "beri-beri" which was vitamin B1 deficiency
brown rice has tons of it, but once they started hulling the rice (because white rice was originally only for the aristocracy) and white rice became the standard, they just started dropping dead and had no idea why
brown rice has historically been for the poorest of poorfags

>>18515764
Don't do this; it creates Ricin.

>>18518264
Making ricelets seethe so hard is oddly satisfying.

And hust fyi the only thing I take baths with is ye mum. We really work up a sweat together.

Would a rice cooker work well for Mexican style rice too? That is made by browning the rice in the pan before adding water. I wouldn't expect a rice cooker to have a sautee function but what if you poured in the browned rice into the rice cooker?

>>18518410
You would need to saute the rice beforehand. Aside from that inconvenience it would come out great in a good rice cooker.

>>18516325
Yo, how do we do the pancake? I have a rice cooker like you described, with the steam basket. Do I just put pancake mix in there and set it to white rice? How?

>>18517901
>plastic infusion in rice cooker
My rice cooker is all metal inside, and only has plastic on the outerbits, which only come in contact with the water when steam is exiting.

>>18515579
>>forgot about it
>>one and a half days pass
How do you not notice the damn thing in your kitchen? Stop smoking drugs, anon.

>>18516061
The top five are China, India, US, Indonesia and Pakistan. Basically 4 rice eating countries and the US.

>>18518358
Rice-simping turbo faggot

>>8519378

>>18516325
thanks for the reply and you're using the wrong image

So my cooker is coming with a steamer that you can use at the same time. However the cook time is 15-20 minutes so what the fuck can I steam that long with the rice without obliterating it?

Not like I can pop off the top mid cook or the rice timing will get all fuckey.

Rice cookers are the biggest scam the slant eyes invented, bigger than even gacha.

>>18515579
looks like

>>18519776
It doesn't, you just have brain damage

>>18517872
no, he's right. you are a lazy retard that put a down payment on a meme kitchen gadget and now you need to do mental gymnastics to justify why it wasn't a waste of money. "my friend you have not lived until you've tried zojirushi's (tm) perfectly cooked superlative japanese short grain rice, please purchase zojirushi products today!" just fuck off you dickmop, rice is the easiest thing in the world to make decently. stands to reason a bunch of cooklets who need machines to make a brainless task even more brainless would be on here.

>>18519821
If buying something like this breaks the bank for you then you probably shouldn't buy it, fair enough

>>18516061
I can't find any information about this rice diabetes holocaust in Japan
I assume it's another nation-wide conspiracy on Japan's side, just like their crime rate and cases of child abuse

>>18519821
Poorfag cope now? Lmfao. Your seething has brought you to new lows. A literal paragraph going into detail on your stupidity!

Guess how much that lafite rothschild cognac was, or the 28 year bunnahahbhain, bud.

>>18518538
Which model? Most, if not all of them, are nonstick material.

>>18519821
I bought a rice cooker for $3 NIB in a thrift store lmao

>>18515579
I make rice on the stovetop by steaming it yesterday so I could make fried rice. It was actually way better than my ricecooker which I have used for over 15 years now.

I like my rice a bit stiff so that they aren't 100% absorbant of the sauces or juices or soup or curry that you pour onto them, more like 75% absorbent

>>18515614
>god i really want a fucking zojirushi cause yum asia is shi
Why? I found that panda mini, that smallest one, to be really good. In fact it's perfect for because most zojirushi range from fuckhueg to somewhat medium which is a bit excessive if you don't eat all rice all the time for every meal of the day and probably with a family too.
>>18516325
>Yes. Also wash your fucking rice. There is no excuse for not doing so.
There is. I experimented a lot, even did sushi with the same washed and unwashed rice and the difference was rather miniscule. If I cooked to impress somebody I'd probably wash it just in case but for home cooking I find it unnecessary.

>>18520018
you will eat the bugs

When I lived in grorious nippon I learned the best way to eat white rice is with all the jap condiments makes rice not boring

>>18517786
>White rice is white rice
poorfag detected

>>18518072
Look for one that comes with spelling lessons.

>>18518063
I dont eat a lot of rice but Ill try this next time i do, thanks

>>18518103
>my high end zoji
What model do you have?

>>18518410
A saute function is relatively common on anything above bargain-basement tier.

>>18519821
t. makes rice that looks like this

>>18520238
Flame dance

>>18519821
>cant afford a rice cooker
>spends time he could be using to make some money shitting and pissing on a 4chan thread trying to convince people it's not worth it
Pathetic

>>18519821
Make a thread and show us your rice.I want to see your process and product. I'm sure you won't because you're a shitty cook and it'll be obvious with a few pictures.

>>18520075
What is shiso?

TIL some people have difficulty preparing rice without an expensive single purpose kitchen appliance. Hope things get better for you anons

>>18515592
You're a fucking liar. And no water is lost after one and a half days? No. That is not how physics work. Stop lying.

Little test. I'm making a large batch of unrinsed basmati using the rapid setting. It's for my dog. I'll give it a taste test before portioning and freezing it.

Estimated time was 33 minutes, but it's going faster than that I think.

All done. The rice is not gloopy, but it is textureless and feels sticky from excess starch in a bad way. Not as bad as short grain would have been, but even one rinse would have made this better. Thankfully it's just for the good boy.

Cooking rice without pearling it first is a waste of time. If I'm already using a pot to toast my rice why the fuck wouldn't I just put the liquid in the same pot.

fuck zojirushi, tiger gang rise up

>>18515768
This post showcases the goyslop mentality perfectly

>>18520912
In the grand scheme of things he is essentially correct, although a bit coursely said.

My main examples are high end sushi chefs will cook their rice on a "stovetop" or without a machine and make some of the best and most refined rice in the world. My other example is the abuelita who makes beautiful spanish rice. This is always done on a stovetop.

If we consider convenience and what the average home cook is willing to do a high end rice cooker will cook rice better than the majority of people who cook it on a stovetop.

Take a look at what it takes the get close to perfectly cooked rice in the recipe I posted. >>18518063 It's a pain in the ass and takes a long time, but it produces a comparable result to all but the best rice cookers. Now would you rather follow that recipe each time or just let a machine produce rice of that quality with a press of a button? If not a rice cooker will cook better rice than your stove top method.

The last thing to consider is that most people are okay with rice that really isn't cooked very well because that's basically all they know. It isn't their fault either. Rice is such a simple ingredient to make edible and halfway decent that it doesn't really necessitate any sort of refinement in technique.

>>18520732
Based empirical dog feeder.

>>18520981
Ok chud

>>18515579
I have a really nice restaurant quality rice steamer. I find it less bothersome to just steam rice on a stove. I don't know why people find it so hard. maybe because they don't cook rice how the asians do it.

1.5-1.6 cups of water per cup of rice depending on amount and pot size. put a lid on it. turn the heat on high until it boils over and bubbles start pushing the pot lid, then turn it down low without removing the lid. cook it for 25-32 minutes depending on amount/pot size. don't remove the lid until it's done.

easier then dealing with these weird hard to clean machines. they remove the simple step of turning a dial 5-7 minutes into cooking and replace it with the obnoxious step of cleaning the fuckers.

>18521006
Hey everyone look! It's a classic example of terminal internet brain rot. Really sad to see, honestly.

>>18520585
Periwinkle. It’s salty sweet leaf sprinkles you often see on onigiri. Not as good as wasabi furikake.

>>18515768
>>18515768
What the fuck is hard about making a girl cum in 5 seconds that you need a special machine to do it? It's one part rice, two parts water. Bring water to a boil. Pour rice in water and cover. Simmer 20 minutes. What the fuck is so hard about that? Lmao at you retards.

>>18516337
I went with a Tiger that came with a steaming tray.
I use the steaming tray very rarely.
My family members are dumb enough that the simplified controls help a lot.
I also would have gotten very pissed at the cute little song.

>>18515926
Are those the eyes of a downy or what?

>>18515579
Plebs rice cooker is not over $200 with the word cu/ck/ on it... Shame....

>>18519926
>all that money spent on booze to name drop in a mongolian fisting forum post
>cant clean his window or window sill or frame, there is even a dead bug
pottery

>>18521269
Dropped 30k on a kitchen reno, big boy. Waiting until that gets done to clean everything.

My dad has had one of these for 30 years. My grandfather has had one for even longer. When I left home I got one too, though now the new ones have a "keep warm" feature as well. If I ever have children, they too will receive one.

t. half taiwanese

>>18521303
>family heirloom rice cookers
>half taiwanese
I mean there is a joke here but I'm above making it. Like most of your family probably.

I have never had an issue cooking rice on the stove.
>1 part rice
>1 part water
>Salt
>Bring to boil in stainless steel pot
>Stir once it starts boiling
>Bring to simmer, cover, and do not touch.
>Perfect rice
I think most people just do not understand that stirring the rice is what ruins its cooking. The rice maker stops people from stirring.

Or people have shitty ovens and pans with hot spots.

>>18518489
>>18520292
Thanks>>18520292

>>18521442
taiwanese people eat rice, haha that's so funny
>Like most of your family probably.
huh? probably best off not making your joke seeing as you can't make any

>>18521593
Severely based riposte

>>18515607
I did a search through my Amazon history, and saw that I got mine in December 2010, still good as new. Just had to do a clock battery replacement a few years ago. Current price is nearly twice what I paid for it.

>>18515614
bought a second hand rice cooker from some old gooks and it's better than the shitty yum asia thing i replaced consider that
people don't really sell them though since part of the appeal is they last a decade

>>18517786
>White rice is white rice
how oblivious do you have to be to be unable to tell the difference between sticky short rice and long rice? have you never had risotto?

I want to use my instant pot to cook rice but I don't know what ratio to use. Online says to use the pressure cook settings to cook rice but that means using enough water to build up steam, which means using enough rice to warrant the water, which means making lots more than I'd need for myself.

>>18516061
assuming that's true (it isn't) it's probably due to their binge-drinking culture over anything else

>>18516140
Interesting. Recipe?

>>18521442
I don't think "family heirloom" means what you think it means. Nothing in gookanons post implies it's the same cooker. If it was, the fucker would be well over 60 years old. Fat chance it would still be functional.

>>18521726
Wrap garlic in plastic foil, then double wrap in tinfoil and keep warm for four weeks

>>18521913
Very cool. Thank you.

>>18521919
It'll stink up everything, wouldn't do it.

>>18515753
I have this exact model. I'm still learning but imagine OPs is a lot better.
I dont like that there's no beep when it's done.
Even when I stand over it, I typically burn the bottom of the rice (the crispy part is delicious though).
I have made barley and millet in mine and it's tough to get the water amount just right. Usually find it boiled over and is still a bit crunchy.
Get a cheapo, learn and see if you like cooking rice. I find it great to just make in my downtime and put in the fridge. Makes dinner really easy later or the next day.

>>18520981
>>18520912
>>18515768
>>18521123
You can't make superior rice over stovetop with a normal pan/pot and it's def not worth the time/effort.

However, you can make superior rice to the rice cooker rice if you're making claypot rice in particular. It requires a claypot and high heat. Also it's only marginally better. It's mostly subjectively based on whether if you like crispy crust and high heat created fragrance. Sort of like how most pizzas can be made just as good in a normal oven, but a wood-fired brick oven would make marginally better pizzas while dominos will save you the time and effort for a $7.99 carry out with 3 toppings that is around 80% as good.

Even then. Some high-end rice cookers claim to have similar functions but are over priced shills that create a pale mimicry compared to the real thing.

Rice cookers also have an "umami/sushi" function to mimic sushi rice methods
>My main examples are high end sushi chefs will cook their rice on a "stovetop" or without a machine and make some of the best and most refined rice in the world.
That chef rice and rice cooker functions are not rice cooking technique superior. The rice cooking process is merely delayed and done slower/longer because some sushi chefs would slow cook their rice with water mixed with dashi/msg/umamiagents. Those umami/sushi rice modes just lower temps and set a longer timer. Ditto with mexi/esp rice, paella, rissotto, etc. Flavored rice is it's own category. That's like comparing how well your steak is done with spicing/mixing meatballs.

TL;DR
>just get a normal $20 rice cooker if you're a non-asian who doesn't eat rice daily.
>$60-100 range Tiger (always made in Japan) like >>18520903 said and fuck Zojirushi's cheap thai/china made shit since their non-stick coating will come off and poison you
>Claypot can make marginally superior rice but don't bother if you're not a big rice person, Asian, a chef, have the time, and/or can even tell the difference.

>>18519926
maybe instead of spending your welfare on alcoholism, spend it on cleaning supplies and a simple rice cooker instead, lmao

>>18515579
what the FUCK does a fuzzylogic neural net in a rice cooker do?

Here's my ratios for rice:
Sushi rice 1:1
Jadmine rice 1.5:1
Basmati 2:1

I only ever make it in a pot though, are rice cookers more forgiving with the quantity of water?

>>18523751
The only thing i spend my welfare on is your mum, and lets just ssy you get a lot of bang for your buck if you know what i mean.

Any recommendations for brands to look out for, or consider getting? I'm a Eurocuck.

>>18524327
Breville.

>>18515579
I already have an air fryer

>>18518592
did you look at this without even reading it? its by population, not diabetes rate

>>18524445
talk about intentionally deceptive language...

>>18516325
>>18518529
anon fluffy pancakes are not made that way did you just come up with that in your head

theyre made using a meringue
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fluffy+japanese+pancakes

ricebros, what is the best and easiest way to rinse rice?

>>18515579
>Goyslop: The kitchen appliance

>>18515579
whats the best rice to eat?

>>18515579
>>18515705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6R_T4vru7I

ATK is great for this kind of shit

>>18524735
Depends entirely on what you're eating it with. Straight rice for a meal? I would say carolina gold woth butter and black pepper if you can spare it or a koshihikari short grain.

You could also do a rice pudding with just about any old rice.

>>18524735
for what application and do you want sticky/clumpy or individual/fluffyh

>>18515705
literally even picking up a 20 dollar shit one will change your life if you eat rice more than twice a week
still working my way up to getting a good one but it's 100% worth it just to dip your toe in with a cheap one

>>18524769
Go to goodwill or something to grab a cheapo

>>18517786
you have either never gone to an asian restaurant or never made rice yourself

weeb shit aside if a culture has rice with 90% of their meals best believe they've perfected it

>>18518333
real?

>>18520903
The only people I know who own a Tiger rice cooker are Orthodox Jews who immigrated from Israel. What do you have to say to that?

>>18521252
worse, asian

>>18520642
>And no water is lost after one and a half days? No. That is not how physics work. Stop lying.

Unlike a pot, rice cookers have a good seal

>>18524904
idk, you're the one spending time in their homes

>>18524735
basmati

>>18515579
My rice cooker has a cake function and damn is it cozy

>>18524487
Both are right. You use a batter with a merengue AND you use a rice cooker to get the perfect shape and doneness

my rice cooker cost me 25 bucks back then and now looks like it survived ww1 and ww2 on the inside but it's still working great unlike some fellow pans from that time.

it doesn't even have another layer for stuff like veggies and fish to be steamed on, i just throw everything frozen onto the rice and it is perfect once the rice is done since it wont get really bad or dry due to steaming.

the ratio of laziness and edible / not burned is unmatched

>>18520019
>washing rice gets rid of bugs
retard alert

>>18520981
>My main examples are high end sushi chefs will cook their rice on a "stovetop" or without a machine and make some of the best and most refined rice in the world. My other example is the abuelita who makes beautiful spanish rice. This is always done on a stovetop.
Skill is a function of knowledge and experience, anon. Your abuelita made fucked up rice for 5-10 years before getting it down right, same for those sushi chefs. It's absolutely possible to make amazing rice on the stove every time, but I also doubt there's experienced home cooks/pro chefs posting on /ck/. Just get a rice cooker, practice on the stove while it takes most of the burden off.

>>18526300
The point of that post was to make a balanced argument in favor of rice cookers for the average home cook.

>>18517786
>White rice is white rice
I would not serve sushi rice with curry or butter chicken and I would not try to make sushi with basmati
If you would then you are most likely poor as fuck and/or live in a food desert

>>18524487
>did you just come up with that in your head
Motherfucker I have made those pancakes in my rice cooker before

>tfw a total stranger says he likes his rice cooker

>>18515774
I've had the same rice cooker for like 10 years and it was a cheapo one. You don't even have to get an expensive one. Granted, I can't leave to rice in mine like OP claims he can in his, it will definitely get funky. I do understand not getting one of you aren't a huge rice whore or don't have a lot of kitchen space.

>>18517786
Good bait

Guy calling people zojirushi shills makes me wanna shill the insulated cup I got from them. You put piping hot coffee in it and it will still be piping hot the next day. And it's nice and lightweight and slim unlike those yeti type insulated cups. Idk what crazy nip technology they use to make those cups but they are great.

>>18522563
Yeah I'm sure most cookers are better but then again this is $20 and theirs is $200 so there better be a quality difference. Didn't know about the lack of a beep but that is ok. I do most my cooking on timing alone. Learn how long it takes, tell siri to set an alarm, walk away and don't fucking touch it. Started doing this for grilling and my steaks and chickens come out perfect now instead of mixed results depending on how much I wanted to keep poking them.

>>18524445
>lying with facts

I just think rice cookers are neat.

>>18526815
>I can't leave to rice in mine like OP claims he can in his, it will definitely get funky.
I have a low end Tiger Micom. The permanently vented lid means that it can only hold in "keep warm" mode for about 10 hours... but after that much time, the rice has started to dry just enough to make perfect fried rice.

Once you accept that a rice cooker makes life better, the next step is to accept that a rice dispenser is an essential companion for it. You want the 25 pound size.

>>18515923
Truth. And I love my instant pot.

>>18515768
I might be a tastelet because this post is pure ramblings of a pseud. I used to use a rice cooker exclusively for years but then got rid of it to free up counter space. I now only make rice on stovetop. It’s easy as shit, see >>18521123 and the taste is exactly the same. I only eat either long grain white rice or jasmine rice, and they both come out good.

>>18526965
I really like seeing people just being genuine and honest on /ck/. So often everything gets turned into a /v/-tier console war (literally two other threads popped up shitting on rice cookers after this thread was posted). Instant pots were the big thing like 6 or 7 years ago, and I never commented on them until I actually tried using one (or watched someone else cook stuff in them), and when I did I was immediately like, "no, this rice is not very good, and you said it was going to be done in 8 minutes but there was a 10 minute "cooldown" before you could open it so it wasn't any faster, and I'm also not seeing any advantage to using it as a pressure cooker either". I never comment on air fryers because I've never used one, but I feel like they're kind of the same thing, but everyone swears by them so I don't know. In any case, I absolutely agree with OP about how great a fuzzy logic rice cooker is and everyone saying how "rice is rice" and they can make the same thing on a pot on the stove are just wrong and uninformed.

>>18527066
holy shit wtf is this

>>18527138
>tfw zoomers never knew a world before the post-ironic era and get angry and confused when they see someone expressing a straight forward opinion that isn't trying to belittle anyone, force a meme, or otherwise strive to be contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian

>>18527220
Just fuck off you bore.

>>18527222
It's so painfully obvious when Australian kids get home from school and start shitting up the board.

If the anon who suggested throwing chorizo in your rice cooker on top of the rice is in this thread I'd just like to say, "Fuck You". I've never encountered anything so cheap, low effort, and delicious. I've been eating this shit for 2 weeks straight and am probably going to have a heart attack any day now.

>>18517722
lol no it's
>rice
>water up to the first knuckle of your finger
>hit the white rice button
>close the lid

>>18515747
anon... you can add other things in the rice cooker.
i like to put sazon and a can of chicken in mine for cheap easy quick chicken and rice

in my country the cheapest Zojirushi I can find is 300 euros, and it's a Made in China model :(

>>18527227
Is it because you see totally worthless posts like
>I really like seeing people just being genuine and honest on /ck/. So often everything gets turned into a /v/-tier console war (literally two other threads popped up shitting on rice cookers after this thread was posted). Instant pots were the big thing like 6 or 7 years ago, and I never commented on them until I actually tried using one (or watched someone else cook stuff in them), and when I did I was immediately like, "no, this rice is not very good, and you said it was going to be done in 8 minutes but there was a 10 minute "cooldown" before you could open it so it wasn't any faster, and I'm also not seeing any advantage to using it as a pressure cooker either". I never comment on air fryers because I've never used one, but I feel like they're kind of the same thing, but everyone swears by them so I don't know. In any case, I absolutely agree with OP about how great a fuzzy logic rice cooker is and everyone saying how "rice is rice" and they can make the same thing on a pot on the stove are just wrong and uninformed.

>>18527227
That explains it, whenever I look at /ck/ in the mornings here it's filled with phoneposters rushing to post absolute zero effort shitpost replies thirty seconds after threads go up.

>>18527321
Looks like you and me are going to have to go on a Japan trip, eurobro.

>>18525882
>White mixed
Fucking amerimutts.

>>18527344
Every time you see someone post that Americans should be banned from /ck/ remember that this board basically turns into /b/ when Americans are asleep.

>>18527344
I sometimes wish there was a way to auto-filter phoneposters. But nowadays using phones to take and post pictures, like for a cookalong threads, is the superior legitimate method. It's ironic that moving forward from taking pictures with a camera and uploading them to a computer to post has seemingly resulted in less OC.

>>18528104
OC died off mostly because of election tourists who flooded the board and only wanted to post shitty yt cooks and mcchicken, and didn't really care about cooking or posting food. Now that the cat blog guy is gone OC has definitely been coming back. Maybe one day we can even have a /ck/ challenge again.

>>18524904
im vietnamese and every other viet person i know own a tiger

>>18528167
Leave those beautiful creatures alone you filthy commies.

>>18527315
Great. So your magic rice machine requires you to stick your dirty finger in it?

>>18528281
Apparently his does or he's a ding dong. Most halfway decent rice cookers do not require sticking any appendage in the rice. Unlike MANY people's "perfect" stove top rice recipe.

>>18526307
Nigger, you ain't making sushi or curry. You're too lazy to even cook rice. Get the fuck outta here!

>>18528287
Rude, and baseless assumptions. You're a wonderful representative of the pot cookers, aren't you?

>>18528297
>representation of a pot cooker
You mean people who know how to cook? Yeah. Guilty as charged.

>>18528311
Woah, I thought you were just a goof, but you're legit a big dumdum.

Does boiling water in a kettle instead of on the stove make someone a bad cook as well?

>>18528311
>Guilty as charged
Considering your borderline bixnood vernacular, I bet you have quite the experience when it comes to getting charged and being guilty.

>>18528330
It requires the same effort, retard. Put water in pot. Turn heat on. Where are you going with this?

>>18528331
The only niggers here are people like you who are either too stupid or too lazy to make some fucking rice on the stove.

>>18528341
It was a rhetorical question. The funny thing is you've just admitted to not knowing how to make good rice on the stove, dweeb. Lol.

>>18528357
Oh okay. Glad we cleared that up. Why don't you enlighten us all on how to make heavenly rice in a pot of the stove? What's this magical esoteric secret to making white rice? If you say use a meme rice o matic machine, your mother will die in her sleep.

>>18528362
Read my previous post
>>18518063

It's the objectively perfect recipe for cooking plain white rice on the stove.

>>18528367
Hahahahahaha! I Can guarantee you don't do all that crap. And if you did, nobody eating it is going to notice or care about how long it took you to do all that. It's gonna taste just like my rice that took 20 minutes. You're so full of shit.

>>18528400
It makes an immense difference when cooking short grain rice. I know you're too lazy or too much of a coward to try it yourself.

>>18528400
And let me just make this clear to your monkey brain. I enjoy well cooked rice, and simple stove top methods were unsatisfactory for me. That's why I got a high end rice cooker. It cooks rice better than even the best stovetop method that has ever been developed.

>>18528422
How? If your magical recipe is so great, how is a stupid electric pot doing it better? Please explain the science behind this.

>>18528426
Simple. Fuzzy logic. Joking...

My rice cooker uses induction heaters and controllable cooking pressure to precisely control the cooking process. I know a decent bit about cooking rice and what good rice is supposed to be like, but the Japs that made the cookers know a lot more than I do.

>>18528426
Essentially what the best rice cookers do is simulate rice cooked like pictured here: >>18520981

Yes, over the fire and all.

>>18528438
Thanks for explaining nothing.

>>18528443
Electric pots do not simulate cooking over an open fire no matter how bad you want to believe it.

Reminder that nobody is dropping three figures on a rice cooker because they don't know how to cook rice. People buy it because it makes better rice, and is convenient when you're cooking other things. Ironically, the only people who don't know how to cook rice that also own rice cookers are Asians, because they've been using them their entire lives and never had to learn.

>>18528449
Only the most expensive ones like the "flame dance" zojirushi. You're correct that most do not.

>>18528444
>>18528426
If you want post your recipe, choose basmati, jasmine, or japanese short grain and I'll cook it alongside the same rice in my rice cooker for a direct comparison.

I feed my dog rice, so if your recipe sucks I can just save it for his meal prep. I can't use salt is the only stipulation.

>>18528460
My recipe is long grain organic white Mahatma rice. 1 part rice. 2 parts water.
>boil water
>dump in rice
>reduce heat to simmer and cover
>take of heat in 20 minutes
>eat

>>18528449

>>18528477
Okay. I have a great organic basmati from India. Does that work? Any rinsing?

>>18528505
You'd end up with a soggy mess cooking that rice using his method.

>>18528510
I might have some extra long grain rice, but I need to look for it and I'm unsure if I will find it.

>>18528518
I hope you do. Seeing you being completely oblivious about feeding a hilariously obvious (You)farmer is quite entertaining.

>>18528523
It's for the war brother. It doesn't matter who it's for.

>>18528477
No dice on the extra long grain. May have thrown it out or something when I was clearing my kitchen out for the renovation.

ANY OTHER TAKERS FOR A STOVE TOP RECIPE.

>>18528523
Rejoice! I found it.

>>18528558
Pretty sure that's the basmati, anon.

>>18528565
Left is the first basmati, right is the longer grain basmati I just found. Lal qilla brand.

I thought mahatma was basmati rice.

Look at how the weak flee when shit gets real. My offer still stands. I have 4 different kinds of rice.

Give me your best stovetop recipe and I will cook it exactly how you specify and put it up to an unbiased review against my rice cooker.

>>18527263
I'm here, brother. Deep in the trenches. These pot cookers are all pussies I tell ya.

>>18529044
Don't be too harsh on pot cookers, anon. They're just ignorant.

>>18515579
be extremely careful though, im not 100% on this but im prrttt sure even day old unrefridgeratwd rice is really unsafe

>>18530097
The issue isn't that it's unrefrigerated. It's that it's in the temperature danger zone, and that's not an issue with a rice cooker.

Pot cookers absolutely btfo.

don't cheap rice cookers not keep it hot enough or something for really long term holding? where the expensive ones that are pressurized or whatever can hold it for a long time?

>>18531173
Looking through this thread, I get the opposite impression. Just look a few posts up some guy is saying steamed sausage in rice justifies rice cookers. It's not even worth bothering to retort. Rice cooker cucks are absurd.

>>18531336
Did you notice how the thread was left to die when I was ready to do an honest comparison of the two based on a pot cookers rice choice and recipe? I call that a major loss.

>>18531446
I ctrl-effed it, and you offered but then mysteriously didn't do it.

>>18531459
I needed confirmation that the rice I was using was an acceptable replacement for his mahatma rice. I don't want to chance any sort of excuses from those filthy pot cookers.

>>18531468
How the fuck would he know? He won't have used your exact rice. And even then, it's too easy for you to adulterate the result.

>>18531495
Are you okay? Every pot cooker recipe is approximately add 1 part rice to 2 parts water and boil for x time, let rest x time. If the rice is close enough the incredibly easy task of cooking rice on a stove shouldn't be so complicated, right? Don't forget everyone speaks of their recipe as a universal way to make perfect rice.

No shit you can't trust me 100%, but I am actually curious about this comparison, and will be posting plenty of pictures.

You're making excuses for some dude who ran away when his belief was on the line, bud.

Want to give me a recipe? I have basmati, longer grain basmati, jasmine, and sushi rice. Your pick.

>>18531508
Just put it in, bring it to the boil, turn off the burner and leave it with the lid on until it's ready. Should work with any of those, but I've never cooked sushi rice.

>>18531524
Water to rice ratio? Rinse? Your recipe is terrible I want to give the pot cookers a fair shake at this comparison.

>>18515705
it's mostly the type of rice you buy that makes it sticky, if that's what you mean

>>18531540
2:1 or knuckle method. Both work. Rinse or don't rinse makes the same difference as it does when using a rice cooker. Depends what you want.

>>18531558
Okay

2:1 water to rice.
Bring water to boil
Add rice, cover
Allow rice to fully cook.

That's it? No simmering? Still sounds like a shit recipe, honestly, but I'll give it a go if that's your perfect rice recipe.

>>18531540
There is no fucking comparison you idiot! How the hell are we supposed to taste your magic rice through the internet? Are you retarded? And I'm not claiming a fucking recipe for magic rise. I'm literally following the rules. Heat water. Put rice in. Ready in 20. Why the hell are you so autistic about fucking rice? Shut the fuck up!
/thread
/sage

>>18531599
lmao bro. It's just rice. Chill. Why are you seething so hard?

Someone has to put in the legwork to resolve this debate and although I am pro rice cooker I will be providing a detailed and unbiased report comparing the two.

Someone woth a rice cooker needs to make the two because most pot cookers don't have a rice cooker. Simple math, babe.

>>18531336
>some guy is saying steamed sausage in rice justifies rice cookers
Who are you referring to?

>>18531656
This beautiful man.
>>18527263

>>18531669
That's what I assumed. I'm just missing the part where he said anything that could possibly be construed as what he made somehow "justifying" rice cookers.

>>18531683
I know it's ridiculous, but you can't expect much more from your average rice cooker hating potcooker.

>>18531692
The ridiculous thing is that they've spent the entire thread trying to argue that people who use rice cookers can't cook, and then when confronted by a (admittedly somewhat basic) plate of food his only response is, "it's not even worth bothering to retort".

>>18531683
>>18527263
>>18529044
>>18529986

>>18531752
Is there a reason you linked those posts?

>>18531764
Spoon feeding.

>>18531775
What is that even supposed to mean?

>>18531790
he has constructed a solid narrative in his head that everyone needs to acknowledge or his lack of object permanence will drive him to madness

>>18531813
I understand that he's trying to prove something, but there's no possible scenario where simply linking to the post being asked about explains anything, or can in any way be considered "spoon feeding". It's like if I said, "I've read this entire thread and haven't seen a single person who claims they can make better rice than a rice cooker say that they've ever used a rice cooker before" and then someone replied with, "read the thread (god I'm sick of spoon feeding these newfags)".

>>18515768
>Can't cook rice on the stovetop.

Thinking of grabbing the Silvercrest rice cooker from LIDL, it's got positive reviews

>>18531213
I have an Aroma rice cooker I got for $20 many years ago and it holds it fine for days. Probably could go forever....

>>18528454
Yeah, anyone who sees the value in a rice cooker is generally already pretty invested in home cookery, and certainly knows how to make rice on the stove.

>>18515579
I bought one of those stupid cheap zojirushi's that literally is just a single lever to start cooking the rice for like $30 and even that is better than any stove top/oven style rice I've ever tried.

>>18532320
I had one of those in college and...yeah, it wasn't great. I probably could have left rice in it for awhile, but the bottom would have been dried out after a couple hours.

>>18515926
kek
I hope you're not kill yet, OP, but don't eat day old unrefridgerated rice again

Imagine not getting a rice cooker with a stainless steel pot
Two buttons, all you'll ever need

>>18535093
We are at war with the filthy pot cookers and you're trying to create division within the rice cooker bros? What side are you really on?

>>18535077
>tfw almost time for breakfast

>>18535100
rice is rice
this is no different from cast iron vs sous vide steak shitflinging
you are all retarded
now kneel

>>18535113
>Short grain and long grain are the same, bro.

Absolute ricelet. Begone, lest ye make a greater fool of yourself.

>>18535119
M8, I know how to cook rice, I know that they all have different purposes and have different cooking proportions
But you can cook either of them in pot or cooker as long as you're not retarded. That said, cooking regular jasmine is easier in cooker, cooking briyani on stovetop is easier, cooking glutinous rice is easier in a steamer

>>18535126
and one more
cooking rice porridge is easier in a pressure cooker/instapot

I will not engage in your retarded consolewarfaggotry tier dichotomies. Good day

>>18535134
>>18535126
Ill give it to you. You have a reasonable take on the situation. The one caveat is that a good rice cooker has all those things in one appliance.

Having a steamer and pressure pot are both pretty useful tools for the kitchen, so it isn't too big of a deal, but a good rice cooker is more convenient.

How do I get perfect rice using my instant pot?

>>18515579
Nice bro, the teflon flavor must have been hella strong. Good shit.

Once again useless kitchen appliances. Just boil some rice in an pot, not that difficult.

>>18520653
I'm not spending £800 on a rice cooker

>>18535994

rinse rice until water runs mostly clear, i just do this in the pot insert

drain pretty good

add equal amount of water to the wet rice (ex. 1 cup of rice, 1 cup of water)

hit the rice button

wait for the beep

wa-la

>>18537179
I've never had good rice from an instant pot. It's not terrible, but it's nowhere near the rice you're going to get from a proper rice cooker.

>>18537191

ok, thanks

the question was about an instant pot

Has anyone tried the induction Zojirushis? I grew up with a regular made in Japan one, and now I’m looking to get one for myself. Curious if induction is worth it.

>>18537413
I upgraded my late '90s regular Zoji to an induction Zoji (NP-HCC10) about a year ago and couldn't be happier. It was a solid upgrade.

It's not massively better, but it certainly is better, with far more consistent results from batch to batch.

>>18537423
Thanks for the feedback. I may pull the trigger. Can I order from their site? Do I need to worry about the plug it comes with if I’m in freedom country?

>>18520912
>This post showcases the goyslop mentality perfectly

>>18526205
Why is there two ass cheeks on your cake?>>18526226

>>18537443
The Japanese 100v models work in the states. They sell a North American model that is induction.

>>18537443
I got mine on amazon for like $250. So not sure about ordering from Zoji directly or not.

As for plugs, the model i mentioned and the models they sell on their US website all have US plugs.