/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Yes

I tried it in Japan at a well rated restaurant. It’s not for me. The melt-in-the-mouth texture is quite greasy and very fatty (obviously). I would rather have a leaner bit of beef with some chew to it.

>>18394622
Yes and that's ignoring it's actual rarity. 99.9% of "wagyu" is nothing more than prime grade with bullshit marketing. There's like 3 places in the whole of the US that actually sell it. That A5 wagyu at Costco isn't wagyu.

>>18394659
If it isn't wagu why do they call it wagu dumbass

>Damn it, my stupid inbred hick son overfed the cows and now they're fat and unhealthy! I'm ruined! Nobody would be stupid enough to buy this meat. Unless...

>>18394622
>That A5 wagyu at Costco isn't wagyu.
Umm what do you reckon it is then?
They do go into detail on its provenance on their website.

>>18394622
Just expensive goyslop.

>>18394622
Nope!

>>18394622
Look at the amount of fat on it, that's awful. That's not worth any money at all

>>18394684
Meant to reply to this but fucked up cos phone posting in bed
>>18394659

>>18394659
Bullshit, A5 has gotten a lot more common as the export rules in japan changed about 7 or 8 years ago.

And yes, the A5 at Costco IS real A5 wagyu from japan, they'll even tell you what farm and prefecture it came from.

>>18394643
Same

I don't see myself dumping $200+ for a 200g ribeye. That size is far from filling for me too unless it's part of a tasting menu or something

>>18394622
Everything you can't afford is a meme, now you can continue to cope

>>18394680
You have to specifically feed them a diet that causes insulin resistance as quickly as possible. Once insulin resistant, any attempted storage of fat will fail and the fat will come spilling back out of the intended storage place and into wherever the fuck it just happened to be. This is why there's fat all over the meat.

I imagine a large part of the cost is tied up in the ridiculous diet these cows are fed to force them into insulin resistance. You can't do it the human way with pure junk/processed food as you'll probably just kill the cow.

>>18394622
It's REALLY tender, REALLY tasteless, and REALLY expensive.

I find it makes excellent stir fry and burritos. it's great as an additive to a recipe but by itself it's too much.

I've never had Waygu and I probably never will

>>18395525
clarification this is regarding A3 or better.

less fatty wagyu is very tasty and tender.

>>18394659
>That A5 wagyu at Costco isn't wagyu.
wagyu means japanese beef. truth in advertising means if it says wagyu on it, it is wagyu.

>>18394659
except (you know) their website says it is imported directly from japan so...

shut the fuck up when you don't know what you are talking about.

>>18394659
from costcos website.

>>18395527
Based

>>18395538
Wagyu does NOT mean japanese beef

American "wagyu" is very often mostly black angus and as long as there is SOME wagyu genetics involved (even if several generations old) it still can be sold as "wagyu" in the US.

However, if it's A5 Wagyu, then that's Japanese as the grading scale only exists in Japan.

For example you wont find "A5" American wagyu.

>>18395572
Wa - Japanese, Japan
Gyu- beef

Wagyu- Japanese beef

>>18395594
Yes, and plenty of American "wagyu" is sold just as generic "wagyu beef" in US stores.

Unless it has a Japanese grading (A4/A5), it's not real wagyu.

Plenty of Australian beef is bred from wagyu stock and while they generally aren't pure wagyu, they're often a much higher percentage wagyu than American wagyu, so high quality Australian beef can COMPARE to real wagyu, but still isn't full blooded wagyu like you'll get from Japanese Wagyu.

I have bought Wagyu from japan, and Australian beef online several times.

>>18395613
>I have bought Wagyu from japan, and Australian beef online several times.

>>18395572
>Wagyu does NOT mean japanese beef
That's literally the meaning of the word wagyu you fucking retard

>>18395621
Yes, and if you see something called "wagyu" at the store without any mention of where in japan it's from or what Japanese beef grading it has (A4/A5), then it almost certainly is not Japanese beef.

American wagyu cows aren't magically REAL because their great grandfather was from japan.

>>18395613
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>I have bought Wagyu from japan, and Australian beef online several times.

>>18395613
you really need to do more research you seem to not understand wagyu beef how it's raised and when it is called wagyu.

please come back when you have studied more.

opinions discarded.

>>18395629
If it's not raised, slaughtered, and graded in japan, it's not real Wagyu.

Buying something that is 80-90% Black Angus and 10-20% Wagyu does not mean you're buying REAL WAGYU.

You're a chump and should feel like one if you actually believe that.

>>18395613
>I have bought Wagyu from japan, and Australian beef online several times.

>>18395639
>>18395628
>>18395619
Yes we get it, you're poor, stupid, AND socially retarded.

No need to continue.

>>18395572
>Wagyu does NOT mean japanese beef
和 wa, Japanese
牛 Gyu, beef

和牛 Japanese beef, wagyu

>>18395645
Again, there is NOTHING that legally stops you from calling any fucking beef you want "Wagyu" in the US as long as it has SOME wagyu DNA somewhere in there, even if it's a tiny percentage. Which is how you get "American wagyu" how can you have "American Japanese beef"?

>>18395637
when proven wrong the subject will double down and entrench. your trench is very deep.

stop you look foolish.

>>18395643
>Yes we get it, you're poor, stupid, AND socially retarded.

>>18395613
>I have bought Wagyu from japan, and Australian beef online several times.

In Japan, the highest quality A4/A5 Wagyu has this certificate
For example, Kobe, Matsusaka, Omi, etc.

>>18395653
Lmao, you're likely some poorfag retard buying "wagyu" that's worse than USDA Prime Angus because you're a gullible moron.

Look at this, a whole pound of "wagyu" for $10.

>>18395663
you're wrong and know you are wrong. please this is entertaining. keep going.

>>18395667
so you HONESTLY believe that ground beef for $10/lbs qualifies as real honest to god ACTUAL wagyu?

lol
lmao even

>>18395663
OK you win, please tell me what the word wagyu means, as you have enlightened the world to the knowlesge that wagyu doesn't mean, japanese beef.

>>18394643
Based answer. /thread

>>18394709
this. I bought a5 miyazaki ribeye from greatsteakery or some shit and it came with the nip certification of authenticity and they wouldn't lie about that because their honor would be shamed if they did.

It was just fattier imo. I'd maybe try a wagyu prime ribeye prime double prime a10. but that's it.

>>18395671
Again, there is wagyu from japan that is 100% full blooded wagyu and is graded on the Japanese beef grading scale.

Then there is "American wagyu" which just means, at some point in that cows ancestery there WAS a Japanese cow. However, due to Japanese export laws surrounding beef, cattle, sperm, and eggs. It is VERY difficult to get a large quantity of Japanese beef for breeding outside of japan, so most "American wagyu" is a very VERY small percentage japanese, and mostly American cattle by DNA (usually black angus).

American wagyu is generally not considered "real" wagyu because it's so far removed from a Japanese cow that it's nothing like wagyu from japan.

>>18394665
Because they can sell it for a bigger profit to idiots.

>>18395613
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>I have bought Wagyu from japan, and Australian beef online several times.

>>18395686
What does the word wagyu mean ?

>>18395704
You tell me, is THIS wagyu or not? >>18395663

>>18395709
So the meaning of the word wagyu has changed because of American retailers ?

>>18395718
If you're shopping in america and you see beef labeled as "wagyu" are you gonna look at me and say "WELL IT SAYS WAGYU AND WAGYU MEANS JAPANESE BEEF" or are you going to not being a complete fuckheaded idiot and realize that it's not Japanese wagyu (ergo, real wagyu) and thus should be ignored (unless you just want some above average American beef).

>>18395572
>Wagyu does NOT mean japanese beef
>>18395747
I'm merely reacting to what you typed above. I have no desire to go grocery shopping with you, you appear to be an insufferable person.

>>18395770
So you're a retard, got it.

Enjoy your "wagyu" from texas.

>>18395791
> you're a retard
And you don't know what the word wagyu means.

>>18395801
and you're autistically screeching about a textbook definition when in reality you can't trust the word "wagyu" to actually mean what it should.

>>18395709
>"wagyu 'style'"
retard

>>18395572
>Wagyu does NOT mean japanese beef
Please explain this statement

>>18395830
see >>18395823

Wagyu SHOULD mean japanese beef, but often it's used for American beef that just happened to have a Japanese ancestor.

>>18395838
So the meaning of the word wagyu has changed, because of American retailers, got it.

>>18395838
isn't that just called australian wagyu or black angus wagyu?

imo for me it's
>wagyu ribeye
>wagyu filet mginon
>prime ribeye
>prime mignon
>hamburger helper

>>18395856
it SHOULD be, but often it's just WAGYU with maybe a subprint of American or black angus.

>>18395860
like i said if it dont come with the nip stamp o' approval i aint trussin it

>>18394622
I own and run a small kitchen and what I can honestly say is that it's super greasy and not that great and the flavor can be easily mimicked with beef flavoring you can buy in bulk from Alibaba...which I don't do.

>>18394688
Go back.

>>18394622
yes. any food which costs for than $5 is often a complete waste of time, effort and money.

No, it's superb.

>>18394622
For me a normal ribeye is as high quality as I need. I will admit I have never tried Wagyu but there's no fucking way it tastes THAT much better than the ribeyes I cook to justify the price difference.

>>18395309
It's called feeding them beer and massaging them.

>>18394622
I use wagyu A5 only for minestrone hamburger helper

>>18395309
what in the goddamn

>>18394622
It's alright to try and tastes pretty good but it's not worth the cost in all.

>>18396466
Yeah give me a pound of that, an appetizer, dessert and I'm a happy man

>>18395637
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>>18395823
see
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>>18394622
>is it just a meme
Yes. It's not bad, but it's not worth the price markup at all. It's just fucking weeb beef lmao.

Japan has the same problem China does - everything they're proud of they're actually mediocre at best at.

>Wagyu

I share opinions with this guy.

>>18397618
Are you stupid? I fully agree you can get real wagyu from Costco. They'll tell you where in Japan its from and it's Japanese grade (A4/A5).

How fucking dumb are you that you're agreeing with me while thinking you're proving me wrong.

Jesus you people are dumb

I don't think it's a pure meme, but I stopped watching that fat spic steak cooking youtube because it was literally just bacontime 2000s tier with wagyu instead of bacon. Instead of something useful or interesting like historical steak recipes or "here's how to make a lesser cut of steak taste better (he did that once)" it was "wow let's make steak dishes with wagyu". Personally I also like a leaner but still some fat cut of beef too. And while quality can beat quantity it's hard to imagine a situation where the price difference that feels like 1 to 70 or more is worth it. It might be fox and the grapes of me but it does have the whole air of weebism for how an island nation that barely eats beef can somehow produce some thousand folded bushido spirit beef that apparently the entire fucking rest of the world never managed to learn how.

>>18395613
>I have bought Wagyu from japan, and Australian beef online several times

>>18397669
>that apparently the entire fucking rest of the world never managed to learn how.
Its literally just genetics and Japan is very particular about their cattle export because of this. It's illegal to transport Japanese cattle sperm or eggs outside of Japan. Which is why finding a high % wagyu bloodline outside of Japan is difficult to impossible, and it's how Japan maintains their wagyu quality in comparison to everyone else.

You can't just "learn" how to make your cows have Japanese cow genetics without an actual Japanese cow to breed. And even then you'll need more than just a handful of Japanese cattle to produce a healthy breeding pool of 100% genetic wagyu that would be capable of sustaining a population for beef production.

Tldr; it has nothing to do with the rest of world "learning" how to do it. It's all genetics.

>>18395613
>I have bought Wagyu from japan, and Australian beef online several times.

all expensive food is a ripoff meme
just eat potatoes

>>18397761
>he doesn’t shave black truffle on all his mashed potatoes
ngmi

>>18394622
well........ yuo know what they say..................
some time.s.............. you wag the beef......................
and sometimes..............................................
the beef............
wag yu

>>18395747
>reading comprehesion 404

>>18395838
You really aren’t the brightest, are you?

>>18394659
>That A5 wagyu at Costco isn't wagyu.
It literally is you stupid faggot

>>18397761
Are you that woman who ate nothing but cheesy potatoes for 30+ years?

>>18398207
¡LOS DE CÁR!

There is no need to eat overpriced Wagyu beef, but Japanese beef is delicious.
By the way, I think American beef is also of a high level.
Australian and Argentinean red meat does not suit my palate.

>>18397649
based eddie

>>18395572
>Wagyu does NOT mean japanese beef
l.e.l.
Loving Every Laugh

>>18394622
There are two kinds of "wagyu".
>Real Wagyu
From glorious Nippon, land of four seasons, cows massaged by japanese gfs and anime waifus, butchered with samurai sword (steel folded over 9000 times), flown to USA on restored A6M Zeros, sliced thin and eaten raw with chopsticks after cleansing palate with boiling sake, comes with Certificate of Authenticity signed by the Japanese Emperor for display alongside your framed Pokemon cards, 10/10 goat poggers.
>American "wagyu"
The next iteration of the Australian Black Anus Beef meme, vapid ((marketing)) bullshit, means absolutely nothing, no legitimate certification, your dog's kibble is probably "wagyu" too, there are even geniuses buying "wagyu hamburgers" even though marbling means nothing for ground beef, you got memed, you played yourself, press Alt-F4 and uninstall the game, gg no re.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

>>18395747
being this retarded AND self righteous at the same time.

>>18400364
you type like someone whos watched a compilation of 4chan posts on youtube from 7 years ago then regurgitated all the memes. Are you a GPT3 ai?

>>18400881
Kek

>>18394643
this.