/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18356874
You don't put ketchup on your mac & cheese?

imagine not putting ketchup on scrambled eggs

>>18356874
>be an adooolltt!!
>this shing is done by kiddo! it is BAD!!!
love how the people who tell others to grow up for using something they percieve to be popular with minors are usually the least actually mature themselves, probably because maturity isnt rated by if you drink milk or not

>>18356874
>There are grown adults who are part of the majority and not some weird ketchup hating contrarian autist like myself
Imagine the tantrums OP throws at diners as he sees all the customers using one of the most common Western condiments in existence.

>>18356916
>WAITRESS!!! BRING ME MORE KETCHUP FOR MY NUGGIES!!!!
Do Americans really?

>>18356874
Its fine, until you actually put effort into cooking something.
Mom is drunk again and churns out a poorly cooked, cheap, low effort, flavorless meal? Sure, put ketchup.
Putting ketchup on something that is well cooked and delicious signifies a problem. These are the people we are laughing at.

>>18356929
>nooo its childish!!
I don't understand. You think something is for children because its popular?
IF it was for children, it would atleast be edible on its own. Sure, it goes with lots of things, but you don't yell at someone for eating eggs or rice or bread or any staple food because its childish.

>>18356929
It's a Canadian tradition too.

>>18356874
Ketchup makes everything semi-decent.
Food is bland, disgusting, boring. Add ketchup: edible.
Food is excellent, amazing, delicious. Add ketchup: semi-decent.

Where should you store Ketchup?

>>18357103
On the table in the bottle it was sold in.

>>18357104
So you're saying in room temp?

>>18357106
Yes.

>chef john putting ketchup in his chili

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

>>18356874
I'd use ketchup if it wasn't so sickeningly sweet. Like Heinz for example is practically impossible to consume because it turns everything into tomato flavored sugary mess.

>>18356874
My brother is like 35 and gets Subway all the time. That's not the problem. The problem is he gets white bread, cheddar cheese, chicken and ketchup every single time. That's it. No salads, just chicken, cheese and ketchup on white bread. $10+ a pop. He's not a child, and he isn't even autistic which would at least explain why he would do that. He gets it at least five times a week. I ask him why not just make it yourself because it would be cheaper and better and he says he's "too lazy". Yet he'll drive a 20 minute round trip five times a week to Subway instead of one trip to the grocery store. He's not depressed. He's not mentally ill. And honestly, it's weird and I bully him for it, but at the same time I respect him for it. This is what our founding fathers envisaged by freedom and liberty. Men doing what the fuck they want without the peeping tom government interfering. The jew fears the humble Subway white bread, chicken, cheese and ketchup enjoyer.

>>18357118
he's not necessarily doing anything wrong. most common salad ingredients are just nutritionally devoid water

boiling spaghetti noodles and just dumping some ketchup on them is the ultimate snack

I call it ketchup spaghetti

>>18356874
As a grown ass man I do whatever the fuck I want.

>>18357629
You aren't grown until you grow out of using ketchup, ketchup was made specifically for dystunctional people

>>18356874
>there are grown adults who care what condiments other people prefer
I mean what the fuck

>>18356874
Do you really expect me to dip my french fries in mayonnaise like some kind of commie fruitcake European?

>>18357648
ranch is the best fry condiment
that or malt vinegar

>>18357641
Ketchup is the dedcendant of ancient oriental fish sauces which were themselves probably brought over originally in the form of the Roman Empire's garum.
This proves the USA is the rightful modern heir to the the Roman Empire.

>>18357645
people who make these posts are insecure about their own maturity so they make fun of others for things which don't affect maturity to compensate. the best way of defending yourself from a specific insult is using that insult first

>>18357645
I think it's the way it has the side effect of making people less adventurous when they eat, and it drowns out what they would normally taste. This makes them unaware of their own palate and almost addicted to that acidic vinegary flavor. They never really know what food tastes like because you can just watch them dowse it in ketchup before they even taste it. It's abhorrent and it's impossible to escape.

>>18357658
No, ketchup is just cheap slop force fed to americans to dumb down their taste buds. It is made for the sole purpose of making americans accustomed to eating simple tastes.

>>18356874
imagine buying ketchup, keeping it in your home, and using it regularly. imagine putting sugar on everything you eat. that's fucking disgusting lmao.

>>18357671
>No, ketchup is just cheap slop force fed to americans to dumb down their taste buds. It is made for the sole purpose of making americans accustomed to eating simple tastes.
dear god shut the fuck up
t. german

>>18357658
t. newfag

>>18357671
Literally who gives a shit what other people's palate is like? Half of all people are NPCs and aren't conscious, anyways. What a strange thing to care about.

>>18357671
100pc and it's hilarious seeing all the manchildren seething in this thread, same thing happens when you laugh at them for putting it on a fucking hot dog like a 2 year old

>>18357676
Did I miss some hillarous copy and paste ketchup meme from 2005?

>>18357675
>german

I don't really give a shit about what your German version of "ketchup" is or was. I can tell you that it has to be such a mild forgetful sauce that it was overtaken by mass produced corporate toxins put in a plastic bottle in the USA. This doesn't happen to other sauces for the most part. That doesn't say much for it does it? People want authentic Japanese Ramen and Italian pasta sauce. Ketchup? You get the lowest common denominator of eaters, you get people that are proud they opt for the most disgusting factory produced and unhealthy condiment available. Ketchup is an absolute disgrace.

>>18357677
That's like saying who cares that other people are ignorant. Of course I care. It doesn't keep me up at night BUT since there was a thread about it I thought I would enlighten anybody that thinks ketchup is just a harmless little American staple. It's the coca cola of condiments.

>>18357703
your schizo delusions about the reasons a condiment was made are not worth "enlightening" anyone about.

>>18357708
Of course it's a fucking ignorant here defending ketchup, it always is.

>>18356874
ketchup and soda are both embarrassing after the age of 25 or so, especially if they have that stuff in their own personal refrigerator. that's really the cutoff, either you grow out of it by then or you spend the rest of your life becoming enraged when people tell you its gross

>>18357712
I don't personally use ketchup much if at all, but I'm just here to tell you that you're wasting a whole lot of time seething about a condiment based on conspiracy theories you imagined in your small mind. Simple as.

>>18357718
>im not personally invested in ketchup or defending ketchup which explains why im in this ketchup hate thread defending ketchup which i never use
t.drooling ketchup enthusiast

>>18357703
>German version of "ketchup" is or was
I fucking hate mutts so much its insane. I don't want to defend ketchup but i don't want to witch hunt it either really.
>>18357677
this

>>18357718
>conspiracies

>Modern ketchup emerged in the early years of the 20th century, out of a debate over the use of sodium benzoate as a preservative in condiments. Harvey W. Wiley, the "father" of the Food and Drug Administration in the US, challenged the safety of benzoate which was banned in the 1906 Pure Food and Drug Act. In response, entrepreneurs including Henry J. Heinz, pursued an alternative recipe that eliminated the need for that preservative.[citation needed] Katherine Bitting, a bacteriologist working for the U.S. Department of Agriculture, carried out research in 1909 that proved increasing the sugar and vinegar content of the product would prevent spoilage without use of artificial preservatives. She was assisted by her husband, Arvil Bitting, an official at that agency.[20]

>Prior to Heinz (and his fellow innovators), commercial tomato ketchups of that time were watery and thin, in part due to the use of unripe tomatoes, which were low in pectin.[21] They had less vinegar than modern ketchups; by pickling ripe tomatoes, the need for benzoate was eliminated without spoilage or degradation in flavor. But the changes driven by the desire to eliminate benzoate also produced changes[clarification needed] that some experts (such as Andrew F. Smith[22]) believe were key to the establishment of tomato ketchup as the dominant American condiment.

get a new catch phrase to cover your ass when you can't find a good argument

>>18357725
NOOOO YOU CANT EXPOSE KETCHUP AS LITERAL GOYSLOP CREATED IN A LAB I LIKE IT NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>18357725
none of the shit you just posted proves anything about ketchup existing to dumb down people's palate. You're also quoting fucking wikipedia, and even your quote contains [citation needed]. Please kill yourself.

I use it in my meatloaf blend, just make sure it uses only a moderate amount of sugar. It will be too sweet otherwise. My brother is one of those deranged mongoloids that puts it on eggs and hotdogs. Yes, I've tried murdering him several times. Unfortunately he found ways to see without seeing and made a pact that prevents me from destroying him.
Also pic related, obligatory.

>>18357729
>ketchup is not corporate trash food slop

are you fucking insane? i like eathing potatoe chips but I will admit they are junk food. It's dumbed down american trash food, simple. The modern ketchup is not the ancient ketchup that people loved. There is nothing natural or tasteful about it. If we were talking street food or some type of cultural homemade snacks for kids I would be more kind but ketchup is indeed a starting point for the demise of good taste. Get a grip.

>>18357729
this man was molested by mustard, there is no other explanation for his behavior ITT

>>18357737
I never said it's not corporate trash goyslop whatever bullshit you want to call it, I'm just here to call out the retarded conspiracy bullshit in this thread. It's a shit condiment, that doesn't make it some fucking assault on the human race, jesus christ you people are insane.

>>18357741
what is the conspiracy?

>>18357741
if you love ketchup so much why dont you marry it dorkward

>>18357744
Retard.
>>18357742
Conspiratard post: >>18357671
>No, ketchup is just cheap slop force fed to americans to dumb down their taste buds. It is made for the sole purpose of making americans accustomed to eating simple tastes.

>>18357748
Calling that a conspiracy is a stretch, for fucks sake.

>>18357763
How is that NOT a conspiracy? Are you retarded?

con·spir·a·cy
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noun
noun: conspiracy; plural noun: conspiracies

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

>>18357748
american pickiness is tied to childish things like ketchup, A1 steak sauce, and well done steaks smothered in both. not sure if it's necessarily "force fed" but it absolutely exists as a stopgap to keep lazy, immature people from developing their palette 100%. and yes, if you're over the age of 20 and you buy a bottle of ketchup multiple times a year, you're a child. get mad all you want, I didn't make the rules kid.

>>18357767
I'm talking about basic marketing the cultivation of a regular customer, this isn't a conspiracy. You are an obvious ketchup apologist, I think you are grasping at straws out of embarassment.

FYI Sometimes I dip fries in ketchup if there isn't another sauce available. At the same time this is why I despise it so. It's always there, and it's so bad.

>>18357770
Good thing I don't purchase multiple bottles of ketchup a year then. I'm pretty sure I'm still using one from like 2020 since I pretty much only use it if I'm making a meatloaf.

I ask again: who gives a shit if people other than yourself have a shit palate? Calling everyone who likes ketchup a child is not going to accomplish shit. It's pointless.

>>18357779
Saying something is explicitly exists to dumb down the population is by definition a conspiracy theory, please hurry up and bomb Heinz headquarters and kill yourself in their lobby already.

>>18357784
>exists to dumb down the population is by definition a conspiracy theory
no it's not, it's true

it's not just heinz, it's most american trash foods. I don't give a shit what you eat or that it exists but I'm going to call it what it is, disgusting trash for dumb people.

>>18357791
Big ketchup isn't out here to fuck up the world's population, claiming Ketchup exists solely to do so is a conspiracy theory and no amount of backpedaling will change that. Go back to /pol/ and leave your dumb victim complex shit out of /ck/ threads.

>>18357784
calling everyone who likes ketchup a child will encourage some people to get outside of their comfort zone and eat actual food, this board being the food board makes that topical, and there will always be retards like you sperging out hardcore when this topic comes up, bumping the thread and reaching more people who never really understood that eating tons of ketchup would be viewed as unattractive to other people. not everyone wants to be a gross flyover like you.

>>18357798
It's not a conspiracy theory, it's literally there to dumb people down and make them only eat corporate slop. You probably would have been telling people to smoke cigarettes in the 90's too.

This isn't political at all. Ketchup is objectively bad. It is for people with a terrible palate.

Tell me one good recipe with ketchup. I'll wait.

>>18357803
didnt you hear the sperg, anon, he said he puts it in his meatloaf. you know, the food for poors that flyovers cook despite the possibility of cooking literally anything else.

>>18357803
Again, you cannot claim stupid shit like that without anything to back it up, and you haven't posted anything to back it up because it's your schizo opinion. Comparing ketchup to cigarettes is a hilariously lopsided comparison, though. Good work.
I honestly couldn't tell you any recipe that contains ketchup except meatloaf, and I'm sure you'll say that's not real food, anyways. Didn't even have to wait for your reply, >>18357812
there it is.

>>18357812
Meatloaf can be good if I'm honest, but once you hear that ketchup is being added you know whoever cooked it is hiding something. It's probably "meatloaf" if you know what I mean.

>>18357818
I can claim that when I see it happening in real time

>>18357826
Amazing source. Many people are saying you're a retard, I see it happening in real time, it must be true! Straight out of the qanon conspiracy playbook.

>>18357763
You stupit

>>18357830
You know ketchup is trash so you resort to the fallacy of ad hom, and you are the one making this political...which I find bizarre

where is that recipe with ketchup bud?

>>18357725
Dude that didn't prove shit, dumbass.

>>18357842
It's not a fallacy, it's a comparison. An example of the shit you can claim if your source is just your own observation. You can claim literally anything and say "I see it happening in real time". That does not a valid source make, and you can't claim saying shit like "X product exists to make dumb down the population!" and then turn around and say that's not a conspiracy theory when you have literally nothing to back it up.

Since you seem interested in making meatloaf yourself, I've taken the liberty of googling "meatloaf recipe" for you. Here you go. https://natashaskitchen.com/meatloaf-recipe/ Weirdly, it contains ketchup. Best of luck with your meatloaf!

>>18357844
It proved everything, you are just bitter. I'm getting tired of repeating myself. This isn't a thread about me. Maybe actually provide some reasonable defense of ketchup.

Still waiting for that recipe.

>>18357854
>response is "LA LA LA LA YES IT DID"
we're not dealing with a scholar here, folks.

>>18357853
google obesity in the USA dipshit, what else do you need to know? Every popular mass produced food in the USA is basically poison.

Now where is my recipe?

>>18357857
Making your own conclusions and then posting it doesn't make it a fact, retard. The recipe is in the post you replied to, maybe if you eat it you can get the calories needed to your brain to read properly.

>>18357859
>I googled a recipe

This is what's wrong with you. You provided a trash recipe too, which figures. You haven't done anything to defend ketchup here. You have only launched personal attacks against me. This is one of the issues with ketchup. It's defenders often resort to this type of attack, they pride themselves in being ignorant so they just enjoy replying with ignorance when challenged.

Ketchup sucks. But Catsup is great

>>18356874
You find it useful it if you have a low quality sausage. But mustard is way better anyway.

>>18357866
I'm not even here to necessarily defend ketchup, just point out that you're fucking nuts and posting blatantly untruthful conspiracy theories, which you're doing a great job of making obvious for everyone here.

>>18357874
>I'm not even here to necessarily defend ketchup
because you can't, and thanks for making my point. you just came here and instead of actually discussing ketchup you resorted to ad hom.

>>18357779
Ok big guy so what's your preferred sauces for dipping fries in.

>>18357880
Sure man. Believe whatever you want. It's impossible to get through to you because this is obviously an emotional topic to you and nobody is going to change your opinion. I'll wait for the news story about you in a few years.

>>18357888
Mustard is great, or douse them in tabasco

Tabasco is actually great sauce that is mass produced with class and maintains it's routes and unique taste. It's also light and doesn't give you that fructose coma that ketchup does. Other than that I just go for simple salt and pepper.

>>18357893
>>18357893
>Side Effects of excess eating of Tomato Ketchup: Tomato Ketchup is a condiment that is easily found in any home, and also something kids love having their savoury snacks with. However, consuming excessive amounts of tomato ketchup could harm your body, as it may lead to obesity, among a number of other diseases.

>According to many experts, store-bought tomato ketchup has no fiber or protein content. It only serves to enhance the taste of a dish. It contains high quantities of sugar, salt, fructose corn syrup, and preservatives, all of which have adverse effects on your body. So let us tell you the advantages of excessive consumption of tomato ketchup:

https://news.abplive.com/lifestyle/side-effects-of-tomato-ketchup-consuming-too-much-tomato-sauce-may-be-harmful-for-your-health-rts-1481857

It's impossible for you to get through to me because you aren't even talking about ketchup here.

>>18357903
Your article is from a questionable indian "news" site, unsourced, and doesn't support anything you're trying to argue. So that's pretty impressive. It just points out that ketchup doesn't nutritionally really do anything but make the food you put it on worse for you. That is obvious to anyone with a brain. Nothing about that makes it a product designed to harm the palate of anyone.

>>18357903
Why do you keep posting sources that don't have anything to do with what you're trying to say? Are you hoping nobody will read what you post and just assume it's useful for your point?

>>18357913
Foods like that make a person accustomed to eating junk food, they aren't necessarily addictive but they do make people crave more of them. This is what high fructose foods do. There is not reason to have this stuff in your food. You are basically force fed this stuff in the USA.

It's sad that Americans have grown to accept this as a pillar of our culture. It isn't. It's relatively new and there is no reason for me to embrace it.

>>18357921
I'm posting reasons it is a harmful sauce and shouldn't be used.

Why don't any of you idiots actually demonstrate why ketchup is good? Why don't you defend ketchup? You are obsessed with me instead and that's strange.

It's because you know
>it's fucking terrible for your body
>it doesn't even pair with most foods
>it is indeed factory made trash slop

>>18357779
Anyone who eats french fries past the age of 20 is still a child.

>>18357929
None of this supports the initial argument of "ketchup is just cheap slop force fed to americans to dumb down their taste buds. It is made for the sole purpose of making americans accustomed to eating simple tastes."

>it's fucking terrible for your body
Yeah, so is any sauce tons of people put on their food. Is ranch dressing a plot by <<<them>>> to dumb down the palate of americans? Is yellow mustard a plot by <<<them>>> to dumb down the palate of americans? Is maple syrup a plot by <<<them>>> to dumb down the palate of americans? Is vinaigrette a plot by <<<them>>> to dumb down the palate of americans?

>it doesn't even pair with most foods
I agree, others don't, this is subjective.

>it is indeed factory made trash slop
Posting 2 true things and then sliding in your weird opinion doesn't make it true by association.

>>18357945
kind of yeah, it's a pretty immature food and artisan fries are overboard. They are usually really unhealthy too. Just good old roasted potatoes on the other hand are delicious. I get tired of having junk food shoved in my face but when it happens I make the best of it. I do eat ketchup on occasion as well.

>>18357951
I mean I'm kind of done with your stupid responses so if it makes you feel any better it was just hyperbole, so calm down or something, kiddo

>>18357955
Thought so.

>>18357964
i don't think you did.

I really do hate ketchup and most "american" foods are just mass produced trash.

>>18356908
It's the behavior kids have when they get to their preteens. I know because I did the same thing when I was that age, deciding to go against fucktons of things just to look "mature" based on some retarded metric. What's sad is people who are older than that age still having that mindset.

>>18356874
And would you say that to anyone, or just think it loudly in your head, letting your bizarre opinion poison your day while someone enjoys their food with ketchup?

>>18356874
I had ketchup with a rare steak for the first time and it was better than putting steak sauce on it. I prefer my steak alone, but steak sauce is cringe now.

>>18358147
When you fully mature you'll finally view childish things as truly childish, rather than pretending you see them as childish to feel mature.

>>18358486
is that you donald???

>>18358511
Can't be bothered to find one of my copium images but since people say cope in word form just as a retarded zoomer word with no meaning, have this instead

>>18357842
god fallacies were right but the people who use them just think 'everyone who disagrees with me is a fallatical bastard' and is a huge fucking faggot

>>18357658

>>18358634
I eat my steak blue rare unfortunately

>ketchup
where i'm form
https://www.ricardocuisine.com/en/recipes/4398-homemade-chunky-ketchup-the-best

>>18356908
It's like whenever blacks (or white southerners, not that there's much of a difference, really) say "I'M GROWN!"
They only say it when they're doing the most childish shit.

>>18356874
I like ketchup on burgers and hot dogs and for dipping chips/fries into. I also drink milk in my coffee every morning and enjoy the occasional piece of candy or chocolate.

>>18357117
If you're American, your ketchup brands tend to be very sweet. Sir Kensington's makes a more tart one. I don't like it, but maybe you might.

>>18357651
No. Ranch is good for onion rings, but not fries.

>>18357674
We literally have 9 bottles of ketchup in the house right now, lol.

>>18357801
I eat lots of actual food.
I had a piece of manchego earlier today and a gingercrisp apple. I had chicken rice for lunch with a carrot salad and I'm cooking spinach bisque with soft-set boiled eggs for dinner tonight. My breakfast was, admittedly, prepackaged bullshit: a bowl of Total with milk and some chopped prunes. No ketchup was used/will be used on or with any of it.

>>18357955
Yeah, I'd never put ketchup on roasted potatoes, but most fries need ketchup, IMO.