/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Cream of Broccoli is pretty good

>>18334591
Buy some cheap ramen chicken flavor add an egg for protein

>>18334591
I recommend you go drop $20 on 3 chickens and make gallons of stock if you don't have it already
Then you can make anything, not sure if curry powder is too spicy but I like the curried butternut squash/apple cider soup from this article. IMight be better towards end of September when it gets more Fall-y.
https://www.nhhomemagazine.com/feeding-the-community/
For the record I went to cotton once and walked out without paying because the service sucked

It's squash season. Perfect time for squash soup. Corn chowder is also a good choice. Both are easy

i don't think you making some shitty soup will relieve the fact that your dad just had a tumor and will most likely get it again. i know if i was ill with something as bad as cancer the last thing i'd want is for my family to waste their time by trying and failing to make me feel better. buy him some cheap goyslop powder soup and leave him alone.

>>18334591
Potato/leek is a nice and fairly mild soup.
I wish him all the best.

Radioterapy in mouth is nor joke
Theres lots chances he wont be able to eat from his mouth again

>>18334692
>likely get it again
Why?

>>18334678
Trying to avoid the sodium but thanks for the suggestion, friend :)

>>18334692
>>18334697
He means because cancers are not often (or ever)completely removed and will reoccur. And no of course it won't relieve of that fact. That's not the point.

>>18334695
Thanks :)! Potato and leek might be what the doctor (not the literal oncologist) ordered!

>>18334696
It absolutely isn't a joke but he can still at this stage use his mouth.

Cabbage soup maybe? It's soft and mushy and you can regulate how much salt you put in

>>18334719
I'm gonna say a prayer for your dad tonight if that is o.k. with you anon

>>18334713
But they make people to keep going to chemo , or at best to check every few months
What you say probably is when someone decides not to check here and therez after removing

>>18334719
Thats great buddy
I just was telling our experience, it just gets fucked up with all of that radio..
Man i wish tech will be able to 3d print all the mouth muscles
Good luck!

>>18334727
Shabat?

>>18334731
Cont.
Actually op, i was told that is very very low % that that happened, (basically deoends on the size of the tumor, therefore with ammount of radio) i didnt mean to scare you

>>18334734
hmmm what is that?
I just believe there is a god and I pray to him, never went to a church or anything like that
just something I feel

>>18334736
Tonight starts is jewish shabat , i just was asking in case you are..
Anyways keep ir going! May Go'd Almighty hear us and speedily heal all of our people anon!

>>18334729
....wut?

>>18334742
Yes

>>18334727
You're a beautiful person. I appreciate it

>>18334731
It absolutely does. Luckily his radio just took out his tastebuds, not his mouth (thus far)

>>18334742
I mean that how people can again get it, if they are suppossed to keep going to check every few montgs even after removing tumor?

>>18334745
Based drunkposter

>>18334749
Idk what you call mouth, what i kearn with all this is that theres a fuckton of mini muscles in the throat.. thats why make this whole thing of radio very difficult to apply exactly where needed
[Iirc]

>>18334739
Nice, thanks anon and hopefully there will someday be peace and understanding among all men

>>18334753
Tiredness is associated with a chemical reaction of being drunk, or so I was told
Anyways . .. lol

>>18334755
Thank you anon on my behalf too

>>18334754
What i learned*

>>18334760
>>18334754
Yeah, I know what you mean. And assuming you have a friend or relative going through the same, it's terrifying to read and see it in action. At least we're in 2022 and not 1970 or some shit. med tech is a lot better these days.

>>18334756
Bless your heart, friend :)

>>18334772
Yeah.. my father..
But things got better, the tumor is out thanks Gd, the only thing rn is the sequel of the radio which I believe and trust that with time its will become better >>18334774
Thank you anon

I need to go soon
My best wishes to you and your father, and to the anon!

>>18334780
And to and yours!

>>18334591

im sure just like split pea soup or a blended borscht would be good for a while.

>>18334780
Is your father vaxxed ? If yes, I hope he dies painfully.

>>18334801
Totally unrelated
Anyways whatever you wish on others goes back twice to you, think well b4 m8

>>18334591
> Soup
It's allright and all, make sure there's enough proteins or fibers in it and possibly anti fungal ingredients.

Been doing a colloidal metal therapy for a little while now. I think it's working. I'm getting rid of Candida. That's like one of the biggest reasons for cancer and other health issues in society. Might be a good thing for your dad to look into such a diet.

>>18334828
>colloidal metal therapy
What is it anon?

>>18334591
Boil yams and carrots until they are a watery mush bisque, stir in ground pork.

>>18334591
A chicken rice porridge should work. Is he able to handle beans or dairy at all right now?

>>18334834
Snake oil.

>>18334904

>>18334591
Well if he can't taste anything just toss a bunch of veggies in hot water with some salt, then you can a blender stick to make it nice and creamy

This is pretty much how i do all my soups i just add some spices

>>18334972
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hi-ho-silver/

>>18334985
Thanks anon i cant wait for next shit to read it fully..
but, for now..
Tldr?

>>18334989
It's a decent anti-sceptic but there is no evidence that internal use has any health benefits to internal use and too much of it can literally turn you blue.

>>18334591
This stuff is good and is smooth.

>>18335005
Thanks anon, hory shiet
So i dont think someone can put that in the mouth to clean tumor or radio

How old are you op?

I make a lot of bisques. Bitches love bisques.
Get a scale, put a pot on it and add:
100g of vegetable, 100g onion, enough stock cube (or stock powder) for 500ml stock, 7g instant rice, 10-15g cooking fat (oil, lard, butter etc) and enough water to add up to 500g total.
Set on the heat, boil the shit out of it until the vegetables are soft then blitz smooth and stir in a handful of fresh parsley (sweet and/or bitter) and/or dill and serve.
If using a leafy green as the vegetable, like spinach, blanch and shock 100g of it first. You'll use the pre-blanched weight in the above "recipe."
For tomato or carrot bisque, you can swap out 150g of the added water with its corresponding juice IE tomato juice for tomato bisque; carrot for carrot.

>>18334688
It's not squash season in Argentina.

>>18335110
I care a chot anon

>>18334709
not him but im not ur friend

>>18334591
fuck man i work in palliative care and wish you and your dad the best of luck anon. i suggest german style blended potato soup, hearty and filling but still goes easy on the spices!

>>18334591
Žurek.

>>18334591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wOlltrPs2Y

Turkish tarhana soup, easily one of my favourites

>>18335379
Not op, but damn what difference is with regular nurse and palliative?

>>18335821
Not that guy but palliative care usually means taking care of people with incurable diseases like cancer etc.
We had one of those for my grandma when she had her sarcoma

>>18334692
it's just soup you weirdo

I make a variation of australian pumpkin soup that I find delightful:
>1 vidalia onion
>1 apple, your choice of variety
>as much garlic as you like
>as much pumpkin as will reasonably fit in your blender
>cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, cumin, paprika, salt, pepper, feel free to use real ginger root or a piece of cinnamon if you want instead of the powdered
>bacon
>Whole milk
Directions:
>cook bacon in designated pot, cook until desired doneness. I prefer crispy for this recipe.
>remove bacon, to be chopped later. Cook onions and garlic until soft, add ginger if using root and add apple.
>Once all is cooked well, let pot cool, add milk and pumpkin, bring to boil, once pumpkin is soft you can turn off the heat. Stir throughout, naturally.
>you can either let the food cool or immediately move it to blender, depends on preference. Puree until completely smooth.
>pour back into pot, raise temperature once more if cooled, add bacon and season. You may also at this point add other garnishes: collard greens, cranberries, crushed pecans, coconut shavings, popped popcorn, in any combination. Unrequired.
I'd avoid the other garnishes for your pappy obviously in this case.

>>18334692
>stop caring for your family members
I really wish you anti social fucks would just stop posting on online forums. You obviously don't like to interact with people

Something with potato and cream or similar, I'd make sure to try pack extra calories into it where possible

>>18334591
vegetable soup cooked until all the veggies are soft enough to mush but still hold shape
>2 cartons of this broth
>1 onion
>4 carrots
>3 stalks celery
>2 cloves garlic
>parsley, thyme, salt, pepper

>>18334591
>tomato lentil soup
Ingredients:
>onion
>tomato paste
>canned tomatoes
>white wine
>red lentils
>spices (I just use thyme, oregano and bay leaves)
>olive oil
Recipe:
>fry onions
>brown tomato paste (let it become really dark/black)
>deglaze with white wine
>add canned tomatoes, water, spices
>add red lentils
>simmer for 10-30 minutes
>add a good deal of olive oil (this will really improve the flavor of the dish)
>add salt
>simmer for 30 minutes
I usually add freshly chopped basil on top, and serve it with pasta or bread. You can enjoy it on it's own though

>>18334692
What a miserable bastard you are

>>18334591
Pumpkins!
Also since its hot out, 3 bean stew is pretty good
Onions and veggies are also an option

>>18334692
Normal people appreciate and enjoy being taken care of by loved ones.

>>18334692
Perhaps the most miserable, pathetic post I've seen all fucking day. Unironically please end your own life if you seriously believe what you just posted.

>>18336031
Good soup

>>18335821
>>18335826
basically the hospital unit i work at has only a third of the patients but the same number of nurses working and we concentrate on fighting symptoms rather than the incurable disease the people in our care have itself. more time per patient, different doses of pain medication, a garden, a therapy dog, etc

>>18334899
Dairy a little bit. Soft beans should be ok

>>18335104
Bisques sound delicious. Thanks for the suggest

>>18335379
Christ you'd have to have a heart of iron to work palliative. Thanks for your wishes and a potatah soup sounds great! Will try!

Potato corn chowder. Dunno if he can handle the potatoes though.

>>18335862
Sounds excellent! Thanks for the suggestion!

>>18335330
:(

Get a magic bullet bullet if you don't have one. He won't want soup for breakfast. Banana smoothies with a little protien powder and milk will do him right.

Will see probably commebts later
Bump for post, keep bumping lol
Take care op and op father and anon/s lol

>>18335883
Potato cream and leak? That would work, right?

>>18335922
Oh, that sounds great. Will defs give that a go too!

>>18336031
How much wine? Just a splash?
>>18336607
I have a blender. Same shit, right?

>>18337002
>How much wine? Just a splash?

obviously zero into the mouth of a healing person, absolute genius.

>>18335872
Don't lump him in with me. I wouldn't want to have to care for an ill relative and nobody probably does but at least I'd do it right because everyone else is retarded.
Knowing everyone else is retarded is both the reason I'm anti social and the reason why I would take care of an ill relative.

>>18337014
The heart was there, just not the measurements/units of ingredients so I don't fuck it up.

>>18337014
wine is good for you dipshit

Oral hygeine is important. Make sure he gets a baking soda mouth wash at least 3 times a day. Also if you can afford it, try to get manuka honey and apply it topically in the region of the tumor bed as well as consume it orally. Try to do a lot of pureed foods with good flavor. Likely your old man is going to get oral mucositis +/- esophagitis, make sure he has a prophylactic G-tube in as well in case he can no longer tolerate oral intake

>>18334692
Probably the first time I've ever actually meant this: kill yourself.

>>18337103
>Make sure he gets a baking soda mouth wash at least 3 times a day

Yeah, he does all that. The oncologist and nurses gave him those instructions. Thanks for your suggestions, also. :)

>>18336997
i throw all the vegetables except the garlic in the pot and give a quick hot saute in some olive oil then toss the garlic and parsley, thyme, pepper for the last minute before adding the broth and bringing to a boil then backing down to a simmer til everything is softened then salt to taste.

>>18337002
>How much wine? Just a splash?
I always use a lot and then reduce it by half. You could just use a splash it you wanted to, or are concerned about the alcohol.

Making >>18336031 made me realize the vast majority of all vegetarian/vegan recipes is fucking awful ((healthy)) recipes with little to no actual flavour. Most veggie recipes can be improved considerably by adding a lot of fat

Most vegetables can be turned into soup, having a chicken stock base is the most versatile. Beef stock may work but depends what you're making.

You can make a blended soup with any of these:
Potato
Carrots
Peas
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Pumpkin/squash
Sweet potato
Leeks
Onions (use beef broth and caramelised onions for french onion soup)
Beans (black bean, butter bean)
Lentils (puy lentils, red/yellow lentils)
Corn
Mushrooms (usually requires cream)

If your dad can't take too much dairy, soups can be thickened with a slice of bread or a potato blended in.

If he doesn't want to eat thick soups, cook some bone broth. Nutritious and easy to eat.

>>18334591
I'm still praying for your dad if that is o.k , I can't cook so I don't know what to offer there

>>18334692
cease breathing

The holy trifecta:
>potato and leek
>french onion
>pumpkin

>>18335922
i forgot the potatoes...I FORGOT THE POTATOES!!!

>>18338858
Nobody cares.

bump

>>18340534
i care

>>18340801
Lies. No you don't. See >>18340534

>>18341201

>>18334692
Based

If he can't handle a little Campbell's Chunky soup then it's time to put the old man down.

>>18336533
>>18335826
Thank you anons
And thank you and your patience mr palliative anon

Also bump for op

>>18337103
Hey anon, since you seem to know on this specific issue,
What you think people that use the tubw can do to reheal? Is there something you heard about? Perhaps, if you heard abbout something thats not official too
(Im anon from the beggining of op, im in a place like op, well similar)

Hey op I cant believe in all this post i havent yet suggested to you to get a nice cool food processer or blender, but a strong whats with lots of power better.

In the beggining it reminded me of that episode of homer blending his own pizza slice because of his broken jaw or sonething.
Anyways its a very good investment, considering all food you could use later

>>18334692
sucks to be raised a fatherless retard, why don't you just do yourself a favor and cut yourself out from the genepool

>>18334692
First time I've ever seen someone sour-grapes affection.

>>18334591
Chicken noodle or tomato

>>18334591
Chinese egg drop soup.
Add 2 quarts chicken stock to pan, boil, mix in corn starch until it's fairly slime like, slowly pour in strands of eggs while boiling and stirring to make it look like flower petals, add green onion, water chestnut, carrot, peas,etc, cook a little longer, and serve.

>>18342647
Oh yeah, don't forget the celery and mandatory MSG.

>>18334591
White miso soup’s good, it’s mild but filling
Miso paste(Add after the soup’s done cooking)
Enoki mushrooms
Carrots, spring onions/regular onions
Dashi
Add some egg and boil it till it’s half-done in the soup

>>18342040
Healing of the G-tube incision site or healing of the oropharynx? The former just needs good wound healing techniques like sterilization, drying, and constant replacement of bandages. If a fistula forms despite all that, you have to go see a doctor.

Chef john's mushroom soup is amazing

>>18342654
Mostly Solid Grapes?
Miami salt gang?

>>18342733
??

My question is that a relative of mine went trought radio. To take a tumor away, it was good, but the problem was that later, he is not able to use some of the throat muscles fully bc all of the radiations..
So my question is if you happen to know what is a thing he could do to heal that..

in general, rn, the doctors are kind of pessimists in regard eating/drinking/talking well bc all that radio. Thing

>>18334591
Haven't seen this recommended
>split pea soup
Look up any decent recipe, can buy the dried beans and cook in about an hour, make sure consistency isn't too gummy or its a pain to heat back up
t. Broke my jaw and ate split pea soup through a straw for 6 months
Its good fiber and protein

>>18342947
It depends on what kind of disease he has. If it is just simply atrophy of the throat muscles due to prolonged lack of use, you would need to go through speech and swallow therapy to regain function, although it may not be back to full. If it is stricture formation and general fibrosis, it's harder for full treatment and there are conflicting data about amifostine and glutamine use. Some natural remedies that have some limited data are manuka honey, aloe vera extract, and some others. The only management that will help regardless of the condition is adequate hydration and nutrition intake.

>>18337078
fellate a cheesegrater and go gargle some chardonnay

I just had leek potato soup and it was excellent

>>18343036 thanks anon
>speech and swallow therapy
You have more on this?
At this point i think they tryed it, im not sure how formal was tho.
what type of people specializes in this specific type of cases (radiation atrophy and probably also lack of use (its been couple years.. idk)
, to look further on this?

>atrophy lack of use
Mainly is because of strong radiation in the area,as far im concerned. There was a very big tumor there and they had to use a lot of radiation.
Even the doctors said that we have to be happy that that already went away, thank Go-d and, basically, (in other words) dont "complain" or bother..or at least thats how it sounded when we, the family were told about all of it]*. Its a sour and sweet thing. But i wanted to know what else would be possible to do..

*iirc, one doctor said something in these lines i think. Yikes

Op, where the fuck have you been?
How is it going my düde

>>18334591
I'm going to have two teeth removed this week, so I'll be using these, thanks everyone and good luck OP and OP's dad.
He's a compilation of what we've got so far, if I forgot yours, link it back because I'm a retard:

Cream of Broccoli
go drop $20 on 3 chickens and make gallons of stock
curried butternut squash/apple cider soup https://www.nhhomemagazine.com/feeding-the-community/
squash soup
Corn chowder
Potato/leek
split pea soup
blended borscht

>>18334866
yams, carrots and ground pork

chicken rice porridge
roasted red pepper tomato soup, pacific foods brand recommended

>>18335104
Bitches love bisques.

german style blended potato soup
Žurek
Turkish tarhana soup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wOlltrPs2Y

>>18335862
australian pumpkin soup

>>18335922
>>18337459
vegetable soup

>>18336031
tomato lentil soup

3 bean stew
Onions and veggies
Potato corn chowder
Banana smoothies with a little protien powder and milk

>>18337935
Chicken or beef stock blended soup with different vegetable options

french onion
Chicken noodle or tomato

>>18342647
Chinese egg drop soup.

>>18342729
White miso soup

Chef john's mushroom soup
split pea soup

+ baking soda mouth wash at least 3 times a day for hygeine

>>18343107
Humble, easy, cheap, fast and excellent. No need for potato.

Tomatoes and courgettes are still in season, as are green asparagus (they make a great soup with coconut cream). Tomatoes pair well with all kinds of berries but I doubt your old man is in the mood for that right now.

Mushroom season is now, not in October. Also: peak pumpkin season is now, not end of October. Pumpkin in combination with curry (curry doesn't have to be spicy) makes for wonderful soup.

Don't forget fish and seafood either. Gentle in taste, ready in no time, easy to chew and most are peak quality in October (scallops, shrimp, mussels, sole, turbot) wait for cod until early spring

>>18343750
Good luck anon!
Let us know which recipes are worth spending time on!

>>18343750
>>18343993
this would make a nice follow up thread and we could get around to actually making that /ck/ cook book that been talked about for years

>>18343598
If there are structural abnormalities, intervention can be done by doctors. I'd check in with the medical oncologist first, who should be checking annually anyways, and then if it's just pure postradiation fibrosis, then nothing much other than supportive care can be done.
Speech and swallow therapy are specialists who deal with obviously speech and swallowing functions. They look into if it is a structural or a functional issue and then recommend interventions/therapy depending on what they evaluate. They are not doctors, though. They can be contacted through a consult service from your PCP or oncologist.

>>18336098
>>18337106
>>18338412
>>18336152
>>18334591
Why are you so upset big tobacco? You pushes nasty smoking on people and this stuff happens...

>>18334692
Imagine being this fucking miserable, you're such a pile of shit anon. el em ay oh.

>>18344247
smoking causes less cancer then living under power-lines and yet everybody has electricity

>>18344233
>postradiation fibrosis
Is this the medical term to say the tissue is dort of "ruin" because radiation?
I was googling a little bit and said that there is sone type of specialist thought they may not be available. How can someone find thede people??
>then nothing much other than supportive care can be done
>supportive care
That means.. basically .. people that cheer the patient up?

>>18344424
>That means.. basically .. people that cheer the patient up?
The carers we got for my Grandma who laid in hospice for a while where palliative care and thats basically what they did, yeah.
Its not really cheering up (you're in hospice, you WILL die - everyone is aware of it) its more like taking extra time for the patient, talking to them, etc. all the things you can't do in a regular hospital.

A friend of mine worked in a hospice for a while and she had no medical training in the slightest. All she did was basically spend a lot of time with old people.

>>18344424
No it means hydration, nutrition, and natural remedies (with quesitonable effect) such as manuka honey, aloe vera extract as I stated earlier.

>>18344455
What is this answering? Sorry i cant follow

>>18344455
>aloe vera
that shit for a fact help sun burn but only fresh off the plant

>>18344492
Were are talking about inside the skin (inside the person) sir

>>18344752
sorry i'm retarded, when i was young i thought i hid it well but now i know people were just taking pity on me

>>18344094
Honestly anyone can do it. Create a google drive file that can be seen but not edited, take suggestions, add stuff. It's a /ck/ book but it needs a curator, ideally a single person or it's bound to become a mess.
But that's work, good luck to whoever actually wants to put the work in.

>>18343993
From experience, all the vegetable creams, bisques and potato leek soup are always good. Honestly all of these look worthwhile, you can fuck them up if you overcook the vegetables or fails steps like boiling miso or not browning onions enough for them to caramelize, but it's hard to fail with soups.

Rather, it's convenient to have a list instead of staring at the produce section at the market and try to come up with ideas on the fly and/or scroll through 30 clickbait 5 MINUTE SOUPS! Tasty videos.

>>18344833

>>18342930
Mono sodium Glutamate, it’s a tastier salt substitute in Asian cuisine(Umami), you can find it in Asian supermarkets

https://china-markt.com/de/products/ajinomoto味素-200克

This post made me cry. Chowder.

>>18334591
maybe poo and pee in a tin bucket

>>18335862
I’m wondering, does it actually help to bake the pumpkin before adding it in?

>>18344837
Back in the day, HeartsOnFire and Borneo would have done it. Asian girls really are the best.

I'm thinking about making a decedent soup. Give me your thoughts.
>Fry chopped bacon in stock pot and set aside
>Saute onions and garlic with some butter to lift the fond
>Add mushrooms and chopped parsley
>Pour over cream and simmer to reduce and thicken
>Add roasted pumpkin and some nutmeg
>Pour over chicken stock and bring to a simmer
>Remove from the heat and blitz smooth with a stick blender
>Stir through bacon
Would good?

>>18334692
Worst thing I've read in 10 years of browsing 4chan. You're either trolling and have a dark sense of humor or you're a sick puppy than needs to be kept away from children and animals.

>>18334692
comically Jewish post

>>18334591
Dubs says your dad is gonna make it.

>>18346178
>tastier salt substitute
Wtf is wrong with ole good salt? Can faggots try not changing anything for 5 damn minutes!? (Insert angry shrek)

>>18346693
Hurr durr jewish jewish everthung is jewish
>inb4 jeeish detected dododo

Faggot

>>18346488
Pig meat doesn't go well in soups or stocks because of its fatty taste. With some exceptions like pea soup and Belgian/Northern French hutsepot/hochepot (with green cabbage, turnip, potato, carrot, parsnip)

Add your parsley at the end. Simmer onions and garlic, don't saute them, bake your mushrooms on high heat, add chicken stock first, then cream. You're far better off adding an egg yolk to your cream if you want to thicken your soup.

Why blend mushrooms and pumpkin when they're in season? If you cut them in a fine brunoise, prepare them properly and serve them in chicken stock they'll actually shine. I'd add curry, not cream in that case.

If you really want a velouté just make a roasted pumpkin one, add all the other elements you mentioned afterwards. Pic is a simple pea velouté prepared that way.

>>18347158
>What is pea and ham soup
Tl;dr

>>18347158
>Pig meat doesn't go well in soups or stocks
split pea soup steps in your path

>>18346878
>disregard your family
>unironically telling him to eat, in his own words, goyslop
>just give up because it's gonna come back

yeah, that's jewish

>>18347158
Kwaśnica, tonkotsu, sertéshúsleves, gamjatang, sup tulang babi, k'thieu, posole, ciorbă ardeleneasca, olla gitana de cerdo, that weird Greek one with the celery and fucking mayonnaise in it and other pork soups would disagree with your assertions.

>>18334811
>vaxx
>unrelated
not really, but I wish your father great health, that anon is just drained from 3 years of propaganda and can't get over the fact that many excess deaths are being recorded so he has to point it out at any ((coincidence))

>>18347158
absolute monkey fucking retard lmao holy shit

Potato leak is one of my favorites and if you want you can upgrade it to Viccysoise by blending it with cream. I add a little milk or cream to it for color anyways and don't bother blending etc. as I like it hot with nice big slices of potatoes. Sounds like pop might like it cool and blended. You got options with this dish and it makes a great base recipe for other soups or stews using potatoes and leeks.

Good luck with your pops anon.

>>18346227
Might, I never do it though.

>>18335330
im the lover of your late grandmother, i was fucking her hamslaps while your pappy was watching the weather channel, you goon.