/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I'll provide you with every kind of pain needed to put you down for good ya son of a gun.

>>18312489
>>18312489
>ya son of a gun.
Okay boomer, just don't die of a heart attack.

>>18312474
Throw it a pan along with some onions, maybe then, still nasty shit.

>>18312495
>nasty shit.

>>18312474
Don't eat too much. It can give you vitamin A poisoning.

I'll provide your throat with every nationality of african semen you need to survive (alarmingly long list)

>>18312474
There's this thing called dose, anon.
It's the reason why zero meal replacement nutritonal products get all their nutrients from a single source.
Covering all your nutritional bases is like putting together a jigsaw puzzle, and if you use only one or two sources for nutrition you'll end up needing to take 5000% of your RDA for one vitamin in order to get 100% of another.

How do cook it?

>>18312554
There's this thing called a hospital, "a-noun". How'd you like to spend a few months bedridden in one?

>>18312588
With apples and onions.

>>18312474
why would people continue to eat it if it tastes like that?

>>18312474
You mean 10000% of one vitamin/mineral and 3% of another so you develop imbalances

>>18312878
It tastes good.

>>18312474
Ya until your skin starts peeling off cause you overdosed on vitamin a

>is nature's toxin filtration system
>consume

>>18312921
Organ meats are the best parts of any animal that you can possibly eat. Orcas hunt sharks, just to eat their liver, they discard the rest.

You don't have to eat organs. Can't just eat ground beef and you will get all you need.

>>18312921
Some women eat their own placenta when they give birth, because it's trendy...

>>18312474
Enjoy your gout, Bobby.

>>18312921
The filter AND process the toxins into other chemicals

>>18312878
Because you get one free with every cow

>>18312878
Just prepare it properly, you nigger.
I never understood the meme about it tasting bad, considering the times my mother made it, it always tasted fantastic.

>>18312474
Are those plastic tubs of chicken livers that you can get at Walmart any good or will they kill me with all sorts of half-processed chicken antibiotic metabolites? I don't mean eating the whole tub in a sitting, more like just cooking one or two livers at a time to add to my chicken breasts.

>>18312531
Find a single documented case of vitamin A toxicity from beef liver. Go ahead, I'll wait.

>>18314324
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2019375/

>>18314332
Doesn't mention the source of the vitamin A, could be synthetic supplements or other pharmaceuticals. Find a case where someone ate beef liver enough to get vitamin A toxicity from the beef liver. Just one. I'll continue to wait.

>>18312924
>Orcas hunt sharks, just to eat their liver, they discard the rest.
Shark livers make up almost 25% of their entire bodyweight, vs. human livers which are less than 2%. So it's not that noteworthy oracs would be eating that 1/4 of their body that's soft and filled with fat vs. a bunch of nasty cartilage.

>>18314324
>Find a single documented case of vitamin A toxicity from beef liver.
https://www.amjmed.com/article/0002-9343(86)90726-6/pdf

>>18312474
>You're welcome
Liver? No fucking thank you.

>>18312896
Living organisms are EXTREMELY good at synthesising the nutrients they need from the overly abundant nutrients they have access to. It often requires a lot of energy to do, but that's just more calories burning for free.

>>18314411
I don't eat liver for the opposite reason that I liked it too much when I tried it and then saw I'd be getting retardedly high multiples of my RDAs if I ate it as much and as often as regular meat.

>>18314395
Damn, I'm legitimately impressed. I'm kind of tempted to pay for access to find out what ungodly amount and frequency of liver consumption this person had.

>>18313816
Every way I've ever had it, it tastes strongly of bile, like the smell of human vomit. Whatever aromatic compounds are found in stomach acid when regurgitated feature dominantly in the flavor profile of liver. I have had to clean up a lot of vomit over the years, so I just can't eat liver without gagging

>>18314644
>>18314411
Grow up

>>18315132
I don't dislike literally any other foods. I will eat any strange dish, with any other offal like tripe, intestines, brains, etc. All other foods and spices are fine for me. It's literally just liver that has a repulsive smell and taste, that brings me back to cleaning drunk vomit out of sinks while working at bars and restaurants.

>>18312474
>*Including cancer and premature aging.

>>18312899
>>18313816
>>18315132
tastelets.

liver taste like blood and really old beef stock. it's vile

>>18315343
What the fuck are you talking about, you mentally defficient veganshit? Liver is the best food you can possibly get.

>>18315350
I don't know why the other anon thinks liver causes aging and cancer, but also your reply about vegans is inane and weird.
Beinf misinformed about beef liver doesn't make someone a vegan.

>>18315350
liver only tastes "good" to people with absolutely no sense of taste or smell. my wife has very little sense of smell and even she can't eat it.

>>18312489
Based John Wayne poster

>>18315350
There is something fundamentally wrong with the Irish.

>>18314642
Supplemented with vitamin A as well as eating significant portions of liver multiple times per week

>>18315560
Did both of them have supplements or just one of the two?
Still sounds like it was the beef liver if all they had besides the liver was a multivitamin with 5,000 IU of vitamin A in it and they weren't even taking it every day.

>>18315601
Patient two was even more heavily supplemented it seems

>>18315614
Yeah, just found a link to it here:
https://ur.art1lib.org/book/15802530/ccc466
The first one is definitely closer to a real case since all he had to potentially disqualify him was non-daily / sporadic multivitamin consumption.

>>18314642
>I'm kind of tempted to pay for access to find out what ungodly amount and frequency of liver consumption this person had.
So in answer to your question, it was
>>18315560
>6 to 8 ounces per week
Or
>30,000 to 40,000 IU of preformed vitamin A
For 9 years straight, plus sporadic multivitamin use with 5,000 IU per tablet.

>>18315621

>>18312474
>*gives you gout*

>>18315641
>>18314642
>>18315560
>30,000 to 40,000 IU of preformed vitamin A
*daily

>>18315621
If that was accurate and wasn't confounded by the history of liver issues. I think Vitamin A deficiency is a much greater issue but you certainly could make yourself sick eating large quantities of liver but not likely as most don't find it very palatable

For the past 2 months I've been eating lots of beef liver, daily. Honestly, I'd stop it the instant I experienced anything out of the ordinary.

>>18315649
>you certainly could make yourself sick eating large quantities of liver but not likely as most don't find it very palatable
That's why I don't eat liver. When I tried it I thought it was great and wanted to eat it all the time, which made me decide it'd be best to not eat it at all so I don't end up overdoing it.
Not sure why more people don't like it. It's like meat but way softer and more flavorful.

>>18315655
Unironically I just felt something weird around my eyeballs. Time to stop I think before I go blind.

>>18315655
>I'd stop it the instant I experienced anything out of the ordinary
No use in really worrying about it.
If you were to have a problem due to chronic high vitamin A intake then stopping your intake isn't going to do much about it except not make it even worse.
It's fat soluble and stored in the liver and can't really be purged on demand.

>>18315614
>patient hyper-dosing on hundreds of thousands of IUs of vitamin A per day
>source just happened to be beef liver extract
>>18315560
>>18315649
>patient with a history of liver problems who might have been lying about how much he supplemented vitamin A
>still took 9 years to kill him

I have to say these are not very strong cases for the supposed dangers of eating beef liver. In both cases, concentrated vitamin A supplements were involved and in one case the patient already had a faulty liver which would cause problems with processing vitamin A but he STILL lasted a decade like that. I'm honestly not convinced that beef liver poses a threat to healthy individuals who aren't supplementing on top.

>>18315704
Like someone else pointed out in this thread, a lot of people don't consider beef liver something palatable enough to eat all the time.
So that makes it a little hard to get a good read on how potentially harmful it is if few people are really eating it every day. Even the guy in that case with vitamin A toxicity wasn't eating it every day (2 to 3 large portions a week instead).
Might be naturally repulsive once you get enough of it to where its harm is self-limiting (would be similar to the reason many abuse cocaine daily but probably no one is abusing ibogaine daily).

>>18315370
If she's your wife she probably doesn't have sense of taste either.

>>18314346
>vs. human livers which are less than 2%
nigga why u eatin human liver

>he fell for the vitamin meme
I'm not surprised that this board is full of brainlets.

>>18315752
Why are you eating shark liver?

>>18315759
Just because Flintstones multivitamins don't make people live longer and don't prevent cancer doesn't mean individual vitamins themselves don't exist or do anything.
What it means is the average person taking multivitamins is already getting what they need by being a typical modern developed nation resident and consuming food to excess.

>>18315780
>the average person taking multivitamins is already getting what they need by being a typical modern developed nation resident and consuming food to excess.
widespread micro nutrient deficiencies exist even in wealthy countries. Plenty of calories for sure but most of them are poor in nutrients

>>18315790
>Plenty of calories for sure but most of them are poor in nutrients
Nah, many common foods and drinks are fortified so even an idiot can avoid the worst deficiencies.
Just 1 McDonald's ketchup packet is enough to prevent scurvy for a month.

>>18315795

>>18315795
>Even in high-income countries (HICs) like the United States and United Kingdom, micronutrient deficiencies such as iron deficiency are often common, especially among women of reproductive age
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2022.806566/full
>Both underweight and obese individuals had an increased risk of deficiency compared to normal weight and overweight subjects (p < 0.0125).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5537775/
Overfed but undernourished. Fortified crap has not and will not solve the problem

>>18315798
>>18315835
It depends on which specific problems you're talking about.
Obviously plenty of dietary deficiency problems already have been solved in a big way. I can't even find numbers on how many US cases of scurvy there are in a year now, probably because it's 0 aside from the occasionsl attention whoring nurse or doctor who wants a new story about some kid they saw who looked sick and had an autistically limited diet. These stories never get confirmed and are basically always bullshit.
Iodine deficiency is another huge one. Because it's added to salt a collection of medical problems that were recorded since the beginning of ancient history were successfully prevented, and US IQ even went up from the drop in iodine deficiency associated mental retardation.
Beriberi's another one I can't get modern US numbers on. Wiped out thanks to the enrichment of bread, flour, and farina with thiamine.
Rickets? Vitamin D fortified milk.
I could keep going but the point is you're greatly shortchanging how much bad shit the typical developed nation person is shielded from even given their less than ideal dietary choices.

>>18312588
High heat, seared and blue rare, lots of salt and steak seasoning, big squeeze of fresh lemon at the end and walla

>>18315835
>>18315869
Also iron doesn't lend itself well to mass passive supplementation schemes because the amount deficient people need is not far off from the amount that would push non-deficient people into dangerous excess.
>It must be noted that total body iron exists within a narrow therapeutic window, and that iron deficiency, or iron overload (such as in haemochromatosis) can be detrimental.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34568981/
And it's kind of a special case for women since they bleed regularly in a way that's considered normal, as opposed to being due to injury or diseae.

>>18312474
It's the texture or lack thereof that gets me. Give me some prep options other than just searing and shoveling it into my mouth.

>>18316001
Cook it blue rare, solves the texture issue completely. Just a hard sear on the outside, then it’s velvety

I like liver, but it needs to be in small doses. The texture and taste just makes it hard to eat more than a few strips at a time.

>>18316001
>>18316069
Why do so many of you hate soft and easy to chew textures?
That's part of why I liked liver a lot when I tried it. Was effortless to chew and digest. I wish more foods were that non-abrasive.

>>18316080
I dunno, I guess it's just a bit too different from most meat I ate while growing up.

it's also why I'm not a fan of raw salmon. I like the taste, but it needs something to alter the texture a bit, like rice.

>>18315735
kek

Except that it doesn’t.

>>18314463
Vitamins, by definition, cannot be synthesized.

>>18316943
then how do they exist, dummy

>>18314642
You're a fucking retard

>>18316979
In the species that needs said vitamin. For example, the organic molecule that’s called vitamin-C is a vitamin for primates but not for cats. That’s also why vitamin-D isn’t actually a vitamin.

>>18315358
>I don't know why the other anon thinks liver causes aging and cancer, but also your reply about vegans is inane and weird.
>Beinf misinformed about beef liver doesn't make someone a vegan.
Not that guy, but the other anon is indeed a vegan and that retarded non sense about aging and cancer is a piece of retarded vegan propaganda.

>>18315275
Your taste is protecing your bones from excess retinol.

>>18315655
>For the past 2 months I've been eating lots of beef liver, daily. Honestly, I'd stop it the instant I experienced anything out of the ordinary.

Test if your ability to process beer, yogurt, or coffee changed.

Test if you don't want to be in the sun as much as you used to.

>>18312474
Where’s the onions?

A Randomized Trial of Vitamin A and Vitamin E Supplementation

The article1 published in the June 1993 issue of the Archives demands a response from one "guinea pig" who believes that his experience with the study has not been accurately portrayed.

First, the article states that "There were no adverse reactions." On the contrary, I, after 4 years of taking the maximum dose of vitamins A and E, was told by research staff that I had high levels of liver enzyme in my blood and should consult a physician. I was then surprised to learn that I was having extreme reactions (nausea, dizziness, and fatigue) to alcohol the day after consumption. I quit drinking once I figured out the relationship, but the fatigue factor did not go away. I quit taking supplements, but for an entire year I was no longer able to work out three times a week.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/article-abstract/640418

>>18315724
I was eating beef liver every day when I was short on money and the taste and smell of it made e feel physically sick to the point where I couldn't eat it for a year or two later

I think your body will usually let you know you're eating too much unless you're some kind of abnormality

A Randomized Trial of Vitamin A and Vitamin E Supplementation

The article published in the June 1993 issue of the Archives demands a response from one "guinea pig" who believes that his experience with the study has not been accurately portrayed.

First, the article states that "There were no adverse reactions." On the contrary, I, after 4 years of taking the maximum dose of vitamins A and E, was told by research staff that I had high levels of liver enzyme in my blood and should consult a physician. I was then surprised to learn that I was having extreme reactions (nausea, dizziness, and fatigue) to alcohol the day after consumption. I quit drinking once I figured out the relationship, but the fatigue factor did not go away. I quit taking supplements, but for an entire year I was no longer able to work out three times a week.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/article-abstract/640418

>>18318292
>vitamins… LE BAD

>>18312921
d-... do you think your liver just... stores all the toxins in it? why do you think you go to the bathroom?

>>18319023
a LOT of people genuinely think the liver just acts as a sieve and all the nasty stuff just builds up in it.
They are retarded but also a product of poor education.

>>18319033
If a person taxes excess retinol, does the liver store it?

>>18312921
It doesn't taste that bad anon.

>>18313698
I made placenta pasta sauce it didn’t taste great

>>18312499
only brown people eat offals

Yeah eat the liver, just don’t eat heart bros, it’s gross bros, you don’t want to buy it and cause a price hike, don’t fucking ruin it for me cunts, stay the fuck away from heart friends.

>>18319033
There are definitely lots of things the liver stores up, but all of it's good for you.

>>18319825
Excess retinol is not good for you.

I only like the onion that is cook with it, it is delicious

>>18319832
Yeah, and water intoxication being possible means drinking water is bad, right?

I don't know what to say... If you don't like liver, you're barely even human. You are an inferior being living on a lower plane of existence. Your chakras and meridians are misaligned. Your third eye is blinded. You're too fucked up to know what's good for you. You need to put down the zogslop and get real. Liver is an absolute JEWEL. It is the FIRST part of the kill that a predator consumes

>straight up looks like it's not from this planet
>most nutrient dense food of all time
>so dense that if you eat too much you can die
>tastes incredible
>literally feel the power of the animal assimilated into you as you eat

>>18320200
>It is the FIRST part of the kill that a predator consumes
Nah, depends on the predator and their prey and varies a lot.
Tigers usually start with the hind part of the prey before going for the abdominal cavity.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Maria-Fabregas-2/post/Organ-consumption-patterns-among-predators/attachment/59d6488279197b80779a32b9/AS%3A467159328530433%401488390871905/download/Fabregas+et+al_2017_Carcass+utilization+by+tigers.pdf
And the orcas going after shark liver one some other anon posted is less about the liver mattering a lot to them and more about livers literally accounting for 25% of those sharks' bodyweighs. Would be impossible to miss soft meat that huge in a kill.

>>18320216

>>18312474
>gives you vitamin A overdose
psh.. nuttin personnel kid...

>>18312474
...and is delicious and easy to cook, and cheap

>>18312921
So, in your mind, a liver is a barrel of poisonous slag..? That's not how the liver works.

You don't have to worry about leftover poison and/or waste material. The liver runs a tight ship.

>>18314644
Bile..?
Not sure what you ate but it doesn't sound like liver to me.

But who knows, I wasn't there. You get to avoid it and I get more of it: win - win.

>>18315370
You just stated:

1. Only people with bad sense of taste can eat it.
2. my wife has a bad sense of taste and does not like it.

you are contradicting yourself. Moreover, claiming an objective truth exists over a matter of PREFERENCE is retarded. On top of that, claiming that someone you just labeled a tastelet should be the measuring stick for what is tasty is even more so.

You made no points.

>>18320293
Came here to post this.

>>18319609
based cannibal

>>18312924
>Organ meats
If only there was a word for that.

>>18314642
>legitimately
*genuinely
ESL retard.

>>18320617
her sense of taste isn't bad enough to like it. jesus do I have to explain every little thing.

>>18321001
Both words fit in the sentence.

>>18312474
Wait westoids don't eat beef liver?

How can you people be so bland?

>>18316080
well then you would like milk toast.