/ck/ - Food & Cooking

First for ultralight wug2’d Kenyans in a flair pro

>>18218064
americano

goffee

>>18218183
Holy cope.

I'm gonna make coffee
I'm gonna do it

I swear to God if Lance puts out a wug review I'm gonna shoot myself.

>he's doing it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp9H0MO-qS8

>be me
>be storing my piss in jars for months
>work opening job as barista
>idea.exe
>bring some piss jars with me to work
>fill airpot with piss
>tell people it's our light roast kenyan
>get compliments from hipsters all day on how great our light roast kenyan is

Hive or Heatgun/Bread Machine?

>>18219824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrD-7MYLbtU

>>18220331
No thanks

wow lowering brew temp isnt a meme for medium roasts?

>>18220429
wow grade 10 chemistry is real?

>>18218191
long black

whats your favorite cold brew

>>18220472
one made with hot water through a v60 with a total brew time of 3 minutes and 45 seconds

>>18218064
There is this cafe near my house that sells coffee thats 1/4th Moon Milk 3/4th whole milk with lavender syrup that tastes amazing.

>>18220429
you'd think a bunch of light roast obsessed coffee nerds would have figured out that more temperature extracts faster and lower temp extracts slower to avoid drinking sour piss water

AEROPRESS FUCKING gaang

>>18220331
Women owe me sex.

I made nippnese goyffee jelli with condeenz malk

For the umpteenth time. It's Jamaican Blue Mountain, roasted locally, rested for 2 days, freshly ground and brewed with a Spaziale. Served in preheated cups.

>Jamaican Blue Mountain
You goys don't seriously do this right

>>18220828
I like when french roast fucks complain about preheating flairs they don't own. Your beans are burnt homie, it'll be fine.

am I a retard for liking this light/dark blend I made? The single origin lights were too acidic for me but the dark blend I like from my local place seems to work well with it.

>>18222019
>light/dark blend I made
The coffee industry tends to refer to shit like that as a "mélange blend". You are a retard for asking if you're a retard for liking what you like.

>>18220849
Hell yeah, BROTHER! I own two and have 1400 filters, not to mention a mesh filter and cotton filters. I need to sleep, but I want MORE AEROPRESS.

>already have drip coffee maker
>haven't used it in months
>Already have french press
>haven't used it in months
>cowboy coffee is my daily drive and I make it in any random pot
>Thinking about buying a moka pot
HELP! STOP ME BEFORE I WASTE MORE MONEY!

>>18220797
How do you milk the moon?

i got a new coffee cup today
i turns out it is the exact same volume as my usual cup.
its shorter but like wider.
its like glazed ceramic.

>>18220853
ni##a that's interesting. I'll have to try that myself soon. I wonder if I can make it with asspresso

>>18222816
You should get the mokapot, it'll be you're new go-to. Just make sure to get a stainless steel one, because aluminium gives you BD

>>18219824
I wonder how Nasubi is doing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_xdgdWAkuM&ab_channel=P%C3%B6lynimurikaupustelija

>>18222914
>because aluminium gives you BD
wrong
bet you think 5g gives you cancer too.

just got some new kenyan coffee
tastes great black with a tiny bit of raw unrefined sugar.
perfect moka brew today.
feels amazing.

1 click coarser, 1 gram less, stopped pressing a little earlier and I flaired a really nice cup of yirgacheffe just now

>>18222991
>yirgacheffe
what farm

>>18222994
Uhm I'd have to ask the roaster. It's not top 5% stuff, but if you tried this cup you'd like it too.

>>18222991
yirgacheffe more like yirgaSHIT amirite

Why should I buy from my local roaster when I can buy from an established chain, who objectively contributes much more coffee to the world? Why should I care about my local roaster if they have not already achieved success, and why is if up to me to help them achieve it?

>>18223001
depends on the farm and the harvest and the roast and the roast date
i have had yirga from the same farm 2 months a part and 1 was great and the other was amazing.
and i have had a 92 yirga that blew my mind.
its just crazy rng.


i have had coffee from burundi from the same farm for months and its the same great quality every time.
just how it goes.

>>18222997
Yeah.. the only named coffee they sell is from west Honduras, by some Samuel Fernandez. I haven't tried that one. Their Yirgacheffe is more expensive per kg, but maybe it's because of the Yirgacheffe name?
>>18223001
Not at all m8. There was no bitterness at all. It may be a waste, but I'm making another presso into a milk drink this time. Like some cappucino shit to drink slowly

>>18223008
>local roaster
this is a meme.
my "local roaster" has 5 star reviews and is talked about by everyone i know
turns out they cater to normies who dont know shit about coffee
so the "local roaster" i buy from is in a different state(not american) and takes 4 days to arrive(they roast 3 times a week and roast and ship same day, so unless i am retarded and order on a wednesday or later my coffee will always arrive 4 days after roasting, so if i order on sunday it is roasted on monday and arrives thursday or friday afternoon.)

>>18223008
Do you roast stuff yourself? If you don't, buying freshly roasted is great

>>18222972
It probably does. Even electric cables give me tinnitus. The microwaves from antennas is dangerous shit

>>18223024
>Even electric cables give me tinnitus.
thats not what that is called you stupid bitch

>>18223027
It's not the same thing I know, but I both get actual tinnitus and I can clearly hear the electric buzz from power lines. They sound a little similar

>>18218064
>>18218240
What's goffee? Coffee to go?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7E4EaGH9oS4

>>18218064
Which looks better, Flair 58 or Argos from Odyssey Espresso?

>>18223013
Cappucino also good, but fuck me I burned myself and dropped the brewchamber again. It's such a pain in the ass to preheat

>>18223056
>Which looks better,
like aesthetically? depends on everything else around them

>>18223049
I won't tell you

>>18223049
coffee for gusics

Hoffee

>>18223612
>this is the face of specialty coffee

>>18223612
He’s so dreamy bros

>>18223612
how can one man be so wrong about coffee. cold brew is the way to go

>>18223056
just wait for the chinese knock offs buddy

I will not drink the goffee. I refuse to do it.

>>18218064
Lads, is there anything better than a nice cup of your favorite coffee and a slice of cheesecake mid-afternoon?

>>18223964
then die

>>18223975
Two cups of my favorite coffee and Teo slices of cheesecake
source: am a fat fuck

>>18223056
Argos looks better but the 58 exists/is in stock and you could be pulling shots by Wednesday.
>>18223853
Jian Yi already exists pal.

>>18223056
I'd wait for the Argos, it'll keep its value better when you grow out of the lever meme and get another machine.

>>18224419
Whats your setup?

>>18218064
does no one else think it's fucked up that we have to use cats to make lattes?

>>18222908
pics?

>>18219451
I never knew americunts drink this filtered garbage until I was looking to buy a nice delonghi espresso maker. Literally all reviews and youtube videos were european, not a single american one.
I'd rather die than drink drip coffee garbage

>>18225309
>nice delonghi
inb4 $160 15bar 51mm thermoblock shitbox

>>18223071
Value-wise

>>18223853
Still waiting for the Argos

>>18224404
That's my dilemma. How much of an impatient asshole am I. I really want to mess around with levers and 58mm portafilters.

>>18224419
The only other machine that sounds cool, in a 180, is the DE1 from Decent Espresso. But that's beyond my current budget.

>>18225309
>I never knew americunts drink this filtered garbage until I was looking to buy a nice delonghi espresso maker.
literally has to be bait

>>18222816
if you're going to waste more money, get a pour over instead

>>18225573
Argos didn't exist 14 months ago when I got my first batch preorder 58. It still doesn't exist today. Just order the 58 and use it for a year and see what happens to the market. I thought about blowing the money on an hg-1 prime and argos back in march but went with the wugsweet instead. If you're talking valuewise then the f58 is very hard to beat. Pulls great shots on a 47mm handgrinder, pulls great shots on 80mm flats. Can't comment on the low flow basket, but the preorder one shipped with an unlabeled vst.

>>18223612
The youngest old man
>>18225632
I hate pour over, that's why I stopped used the drip coffee maker.

It's whatever I buy fresh, 5-15 day after roast, la spaziale unit, just dial in your grind and you're good. All fresh roasted coffee can be good as long as you aren't buying some roasted until charcoal level shit.

I need help troubleshooting an off flavor and I can't find a good reference for flavor descriptions of specific compounds to rigorously work it out for myself. I don't really know how to describe it, annoyingly. Perhaps chemical. It seems to be kinda common in that I've noticed it in many people's coffee brewed at home but I also noticed what I think was the same thing when working in a kitchen with an open pitcher of iced coffee kept in the fridge for too long. It's apparent in fresh hot coffee but seems to become more obvious with storage whether left to get stale or as iced coffee or cold brewed. I'm guessing it to either be poor cleaning (drip brewer or grinder) or oxygen exposure, possibly both? Do contaminating stale oils get worse over time after brewing?

I need to get control over my brewing process with my own shit since I've always been at least somewhat reliant on others' stuff but specific direction would be helpful. Whether it's a grinder that I can be certain doesn't have filthy internals or a cold brewing vessel that is air tight.

>>18225777
I waited some time for the Niche and I don't regret it. I have the Flair Classic, so I was going to wait at least until their "late summer" eta.

>>18226030
Doesn't hurt your pocket to wait and I assume flair has their 58 supply pretty well built out at this point not like they're going to become scarce if you break down. Buy whatever is going to make you happy. If the argos is based I might pick one up next summer. Seems dumb to spend a few hundred more for a milk drink or two a month though.
>>18226006
Yes oils go rancid over time. Yes most people buy shit tier coffee thats gone rancid in the bag. Probably starts to stink in the fridge as the oils at the surface oxidize further. Same goes for lipton.

>>18226110
>shit tier coffee thats gone rancid in the bag
I think that's not the case here though I suppose I left it vague that I could have been drinking coffee made by total retards.
>in the fridge as the oils at the surface oxidize further
What kinda timeframe are we talking, though? Say it's two week old oils sticking around in the grinder, they get brewed and then stored. We talking it goes from noticeable to vile in the space of a few hours in an open pitcher or twelve in a not-fully sealed all-in-one cold brewer?

Most importantly, what do rancid oils /taste like/? I don't have the experience to say that that's what's wrong here. I'm guessing.

>>18226154
>Say it's two week old oils sticking around in the grinder
I'm saying its years old oil sticking around in the grind path and months old oils on the dark roast beans. I clean my burrs whenever I grind up more developed coffee for my buddy to french press because that roastier flavor carries over into my lighter beans.
>what do rancid oils /taste like/
Sour, skunky, chemical, stale, off. You know that weird funk when you bring up olive oil too high? Degraded oils being exposed to oxygen.

>>18225616
>nice delonghi
he is just a huge brad pitt fan.

>>18224722
idk i thought about it but
1. i dont think my cup or my coffee is interesting enough to post
2. i have accidentally leaked personal info on here before when taking and uploading pics so i dont want to do that again.
3. its not like a fancy cup or anything its like a collaboration between my "local" roaster and this ceramics artisan or whatever.

so i guess here is just the picture from the website.
they are all handmade but it pretty much looks exactly like this.
also thanks for being interested in my post :)

for me? it's black coffee and a honey bun.

>>18226709
I had a post dinner black coffee and cherry danish. I'm going to have to buy honey buns now you son of a bitch.

>>18226400
No worries dude. Looks nice! How good is the insulation?

>>18218064
>what is the ultimate coffee?
Yorkshire Tea, 1 sugar.

>>18227380
>How good is the insulation?
bad
i have to hold the very top with my finger tips
but i take like 5 steps to me desk to drink it in the morning so i dont mind, and i enjoy holding it and drinking out of it.

these guys also have a green glaze version and i think i will buy that next time i order some coffee.

make coffee

>>18227583
just did

>>18227788
Checked triple dubs
Now make more coffee

>>18227941
its 11 pm
no thanks.
i will probably made 2 tomorrow morning to finish the rest of my peru and get stuck in to my new kenyan(its really good)
going to keep my natural burundi sealed until i finish my kenyan to see how it goes.
had a bread sandwich with this coffee.
it was aight. tasted the same as my boring coffee.
i will probably make both tomorrow into milk drinks or affogato

>>18227965
mmm burundi... and bread sandwiches!

>>18227583
make me

Nichepressed and acaia lunar’d an ultralight Guji, what do I think of it?

>>18228656
Do it
Or I kill you

>>18229130
You think its bretty good, but realize the worka sakaro I just wugsweeted and milydripped with holy water is better. I should roast some guji up later though.
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/collections/green-coffee/products/ethiopia-guji-allona-natural-organic?variant=40039060013145

So I got Monarch and Eclipse from Onyx, their two offerings suitable for espresso. Cool packaging. Along with the size and price, these guys are definitely presenting themselves as luxury coffee.

Eclipse is crap. Sorry. It's on the dark side of medium, just before oils showing. Not much taste or body. Not worth buying. You'll forget it even while you're drinking it.

Monarch, on the other hand, is definitely worth a try. Natural ethiopian + washed latin american blend. It's a medium roast, and so far the lightest one I've enjoyed as a straight shot. The acidity is pleasant, and seems "right" with the spicy flavors. Good blend.

But Onyx says this:
>Monarch is our house espresso for beverages 12 ounces and larger.
>Monarch is bold and defiant and tends to stand out in beverages of milk that have a volume of 12oz or more.
My ass. I guess this counts as bold to hipsters who have never tasted a dark roast, but this is buried eight feet deep in even eight ounces of milk. In anything starbucks-size it's gonna be undetectable.
Still good light-bodied blend though. Enjoyable as straight espresso, lungo, probably cappucino, even in a latte it added a vague long-lingering sense of cherry compot. Nice.

Here's how I make my instant coffee everyday, it took me years of gradually changing it to come to this point where it's just solid.
I always drink it cold so all I need is a French press and my 5 gram spoon to make it.
>pour 100ml of water in the carafe
>add a heaping spoon of Davidoff fine aroma (spoon is 5g level so this way it's like 7 grams or so)
>add two level spoonfuls of sugar
>hold the French press by the handle and swish it around churning the coffee and dissolving the sugar fully
>add 200ml of cold milk
>pour and drink.
I know of the retardation in using a French press to make instant cold coffee but it werks for me.

>>18227583
Yes

Will you drink the whole bean folgers?

>>18230813
they dont sell this "coffee" in my country.

>>18230217
Nothing like the taste of freshly brewed sugar milk in the morning

>>18230052
Imagine paying over 35$ a pound for a generic medium dark roast colombian blend coffee
These niggers don't even give you roast dates
The US desperately needs another recession

>>18218064

>>18231009
based

>>18231009
if french roast is dark as you can roast coffee then what the fuck is their "bold" roast?

Q:
Is there a term for using cold brew super-concentrate then filling the rest of the glass up with straight milk? I’m talking 50:50 concentrate to milk

>>18218064
Americano is my goto on the go. A nice pour over is what I like to make at home when I have time.

I need a grinder, how expensive should I go if I like espresso but can’t discern the difference between a good espresso and a great espresso

>>18230745
>honey mango
hmm..

>>18231364
~ 300$

I quickly got tired of flairing fuity yirgacheffe with minimal bitterness. I should go back up a click finer or a gram or both. I kinda maybe prefer it badly brewed

>>18231414
Any recommendations for that price range?
Google gives me a Barata and a Eureka grinder for ~300 and a Breville for ~220

>>18231464
Smart grinder pro.

>>18231406
SO Halu natural, Medium roast and taste like eating manggo with long after taste honey.

my water filter jug comes tomorrow
feelsgoodman.

>>18231464
Almost all electric grinders under $500 are garbage because there needs to be a sacrifice in either build quality, the burrs, or the motor to actually make decent profit. You're better off looking for a manual hand grinder
A $250 hand grinder will beat almost any electric grinder under $750
There are basically two brands of hand grinders you can get for this price
No I will not tell you which ones and which is better because this fucking site is filled with bots and paid posters who invade generals to shill

What coffee would he drink?

>>18232304

>>18232304
light, natural ethiopian for his cold brew

>>18232304
he abstains because coffee is haram

the ultimate coffee is the one i have first thing in the morning to make myself feel warm & ready for the day :)

i don't really like coffee.
if i have to go to a coffee place i usually get a mocha latte. light roast, whole milk.

>>18232304
burundi natural process
moka pot
competition filter
black

>>18231464
I was thinking comandante actually, but there's cheaper grinders, some electric, that work good. I wouldn't know I just have the comandante. It's honestly not easy to use, but it makes good to great coffee

>>18222680
Absolutely based and many filters pilled

>>18232541
How long does it take to grind for espresso? I've heard it's like 2 or 3 minutes. Sounds short but I think it'd quickly drive me nuts and make me not want to dial in any new beans.

>>18233089
Nah it's more like a minute or a minute and 10 on a comandante, but the thing is chubby so it doesn't feel super nice to use even if you spent a lot of money on it

>>18233112
I mean it feels nice and quality, but the thickness gets annoying to hold. They're making a 20gram version soon, and I think that'd be perfect. If you're making a single dose of espresso it's all you need anyway

For me it's the sinodante.

>>18233251
What about the sinosinodante?

>>18233288
The delicate asian design fits my white twink hands so much better than the burly german knockoff.

>>18232304
a lovely Kirinyaga made in a Hario Switch

>mfw drinking store bought beans because I don't feel like roasting in my hot as fuck garage

>>18231220
That's just a cold brew latte, anon

>>18234318
just roast under your stove hood fan

>>18223049
>>18232304
praise the lord and pass the coffee cup

>>18232373
How is coffee haram? I hope you're kidding. I understand getting drunk or high but coffee??
Also I am the opinion drinking 2 beers or 3 isn't haram as one isn't drunk before 2-3 beers. Same with drinking a glass of red wine

are there any good American grinders? don’t trust euro or asian shits

>>18236285
inshallah you will fall from the bridge of as-sirat for your shit takes

>>18236568
Haha kafir cul hara sharmut
It is you who is an extremist. All the morrocans, algerians and syrians drink beer here once they immigrate. Do not be closed minded you haven't even tried one beer yet you go crazy. Crazy silly Abdel

no fighting my children ....

>>18233288
I cut off the shitty rubber on my k1 and wrapped it inatead with gorillatape. Works better protip for the rest of you

>>18236628
I heard the 1zpresso has the rubber problem too

ITS UP!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhX0N1_ye7E

filtered water bros... i am converted.

>>18236680
Zomg zomg zomg!!!1111

>>18236680
It's hoffee time

>>18236711
Don't forget to make a coffee water concentrate too. You can taste the difference

>>18236818
eh?

>>18236859
The hardness (gh/kh) of your water effects the taste.
https://coffeeadastra.com/2019/08/23/a-tool-and-videos-for-crafting-custom-brew-water/

>>18236874
ill take a look after work.
thanks

>>18236561
Kafatek makes 99% of their shit in Seattle to ridiculously tight tolerances.
https://www.kafatek.com/
>>18236965
Coffeewater.app

Any good resources out there that give recommended espresso grinder/machines for different price points?
I feel like a lot of espresso enthusiasts are often such snobs that they will act that a 1% difference is substantial and justifies a 5000 dollar espresso setup

>>18237417
depends, how do you feel about coffeetubers.

>>18237436
I have no real frame of reference, I just google stuff and have never watched a coffee youtuber

>>18237445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avM-XsaTBIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HIGdYy5of4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0kQ5WqjcU8

>>18231197
Only bold men drink charcoal

>>18237459
>bald men
Fixed that for you. Its for old coots who no longer have 50% of their tastebuds

>aeropress
>hario slim mini
>some random coffee beans I bought at the convenience store
A-am I fitting in yet?

>>18237453
That beige thing under 100 bucks makes my dick hard

>>18233288

>>18237468
>A-am I fitting in yet?
you will never

>>18237474
i really hate how all the good expensive shit is bland stainless steel shit.
actually soulless.

>>18237532
I- I kneel...

About to make coffee. What will I think of it?

>>18237736
you will wish it was more interesting.

>>18237736
>"I'd rather kill myself than take another sip of this"

>>18232304

>>18237760
>he bought colombian dark roast

Pic rel is literally me

is there any good coffee maker that works with k cups and regular coffee grounds/espresso?

>>18237855
Flair 58

>>18237417
Honestly, there aren't that many machines at a reasonable price point so just look them up and see if you like them. There's DeLonghi, Breville, and Gaggia. Delonghi sucks.
Do not buy any of that heat exchanger or any other outdated steampunk shit unless you're sure about it.

>>18237855
Just take a keurig and a mr coffee and glue them together, bam

>>18218064
I cant drink coffee because I have tourrettes. I used to but it got so bad I had to stop. Now I'm so lethargic and have to drag my way through everything I do instead of eagerly jumping into it

>>18237894
I own a DeLonghi Magnifica XS. I got it for free, so I can’t complain too much but it’s pretty mid
>>18237453
Ok so what’s a good ratio of how much to spend on a grinder vs the actual machine?
Obviously pairing a 200 dollar grinder with a 4000+ dollar machine would be a waste

pocopresso

>>18237960
Xiaomi makes espresso machines?

>>18237964
i will now buy an espresso machine

>>18237945
Depends what you want. I've got a $2600 grinder paired with a $600 manual. The flavors and mouth feel are presented differently compared to my $200 hand grinder.
https://espressoaf.com/recommendations

>>18238015
>https://espressoaf.com/recommendations
Neat, thanks.

Stuff like the Flair Neo is super cheap and [allegedly] can brew some really good coffee, what's the catch? "Tedious workflow" sounds pretty vague, isn't this the same process of heating up water, putting your grounds in a portafilter, making the shot, repeat?

>>18238092
>Flair Neo
The base flair neo is a pressurized basket, meant for preground coffee/people with shitty grinders. You can buy a normal basket for it and be set. You won't have to grind as fine since most flair baskets(other than the standard sized 58) will be taller and skinnier. The downside with the flairs(again, other than the 58) is that the tedious workflow means heating up metal parts seperately so they don't steal your brew water's heat. I used to just drop the cylinder in a yeti cup and let it sit in a round or two of kettle water, but this is the newer method people use now. You can pull great espresso cheap, but realize you're going to be doing shit like this every time. Adds a couple minutes to your "workflow" whereas on a boiler based machine you're going to be waiting for the boiler to heat the entire machine. Less work, more waiting.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JiQxoaMc-fg

>>18223975
A cup of my favorite coffee and a light early breakfast watching the sunrise paint the mountains from my back porch.

Do you find EA/sugarcane processing to have a distinctive taste?

Picked up my second EA decaf and am noticing the same almost savory note in both roasts

The flair is just so fucking bad I hate that piece of meme shit.
Imagine starting every morning trying not to burn yourself while fucking around preheating that little piece of shit and then cleaning up molten coffee sludge encased in red hot steel afterward. And all that effort just for one crappy shot with no consistency possible.

>>18238931
Cope and seethe.

>>18236628
I never had any issues with the rubber but it looks like ass. Kinda want to replace it.

koff...

Is Turkish gofè just a meme?

>>18240357
I assume I was gripping too hard so the glue between came loose or maybe there was never any glue and it was always a little loose. The other problem is I don't have little chink hands so my grip was larger than the rubber. All problems some tape fixes though you will want non stick scissors if you care about aesthetics/not having shit overlap. Personally I like the k1 a lot since it works great for medium-medium fine and I can just fill it up and know that's 25g of coffee and not have to weigh beans. Also can always start my kettle and do a grind before it's done no problem.

I got a bambino plus, literally makes pulling a shot a 2 minute affair from start to finish. Taste pretty delicious when it doesn’t channel but then again it’s my first machine. How is bambino’s potential, am I even getting 8/10 of what’s possible? What would’ve been a more prudent buy as a first machine?

>>18240585
if its anywhere near a tourist location then yes it is a meme.
but real turkish coffee is alright
and then using turkish coffee origins and adapting them to fit within 3rd wave speciality coffee brewing it can be great but getting there is a ton of work and in the end just make a moka and call it a day.

>>18240585
all gofe il e pepe se, il se

>>18240701
Get a non-pressurised basket for starters, that's going to make life better. Channelling is a pain and though they're something of a meme, the wire distribution tools people are turning to are fucking great at reducing how often you'll get channelling - you can make one cheaply if you've got a 3D printer, or you can buy inexpensive ones. Do you have a grinder or are you buying ground beans? That's another piece of very low hanging fruit.

>>18238114
Did a little bit of digging, watched a Hoffman video, etc. and I think that I am a little bit more up to speed now.
As you said, all the non-58s have the issue of needing to heat up the parts, which might be a bit of a hassle in the morning before work.

Q:
In your opinion, is the 58 worth it? It's almost 600 dollars which is really pricey for a manual espresso maker but how does it compare to espresso machines in the same general price range?

>>18240646
There's definitely no glue. You probably stretched it enough to deform it.
Also you should've bought the larger models if you don't want a small grinder.

>>18240935
no my complaint was about size of the rubber not the size of the grinder. learn to read for real lol

my mr coffee tastes weaker than previous coffee makers
how2fix?

>>18240821
I enjoy it so much I decided to put that $2600 towards a grinder, not a different machine. If the heating element ever goes out in the future(or there's an upgrade) it's literally unplugging one wire and dropping in a new unit. I can fully clean the brew path in minutes vs descaling and flushing a boiler based machine. Think of it like a $600 58mm streitman.
https://www.strietman.net/ct2

>>18240821
>As you said, all the non-58s have the issue of needing to heat up the parts, which might be a bit of a hassle in the morning before work.
Not him. I burnt myself multiple times trying to transfer the hot brewing chamber from the top of a kettle to the lever thing. The thing is great, but fuuuck preheating.

>>18241499
I just used a silicone hot pad when I was soaking my brewhead. No issues.

it's like living in some 1984 dystopia, all I'm missing with my morning cup is a fucking Victory cigarette

>>18241641
I don't know why you redditors piss your pants over this brand.
>idz lidderally 1984!!!
No it isn't, it's a store brand on the same shelf as every other brand. You can shuffle your ass half a foot to the left and find Nescafe Gold.

>>18241622
I use a garlic crusher. Place the brewhead in the center and use sides for holding steam comes up the holes and heats it. It's still not ideal and I burnt myself several times and also dropped the brewhead on the floor. At least it's so strong I don't have to worry about it
Yeah the flair 58 is king. I wonder if my local importer would let me trade in the signature for a discount, thought I don't really have the counter space for a permanent coffeemachine

>>18241681
Yeah you can still do all that. Just get a fucking silicone oven pad to transfer instead of balancing hot metal on hot metal.

>>18226400
lewd mug

Or you could just buy an actual machine instead of juggling hot metal pieces like a retarded poorfag

>>18241657
fucking Jeff Bezos over here with his Nescafe bucks

>>18241701
Post.your setup. Timestamped.

>>18218064
So how many ounces/ml is a cup of moka coffee really? I see 2 ounces listed online, but the Bialetti moka pot I have that I'm pretty certain is a 6 cup model (it's stamped made in Italy and I've read the smaller ones aren't) only holds 10 ounces/300 ml of water in the base and brews about/slightly under 8 ounces of coffee giving 1.67-1.33 ounces per cup.

Oh look, he's melting again

>>18241722
Look buddy, "literally 1984" would be picking up a few of these packets from booth on the street corner.

>>18241756
what is this magic coffee bleach?

>>18241750
My 3 cup Bialetti is roughly 150ml so your assumption of 6 cups is most likely correct.

I fucking love moka pot coffee now. Have been preparing it for a few weeks after I found a recipe I like and dialed in my grinder. Real simple: boiling water, aeropress filter, 175ml of warm milk.

>>18241752
No silvia to larp about this time?

>>18241681
What about the cafelat robot? Also a manual espresso maker but doesn't need preheating.

>>18242345
You're still going to want to preheat the robot.
https://youtu.be/gaoMg1qYaTM

>>18242407
Still seems easier than fucking around with the flair and also I've heard it makes perfectly good espresso even without heating the piston.

>>18242424
A 27 degree delta between the end of a fully preheated shot and a non preheated shot should tell you something. Probably fine if you're only wanting to blast through dark roast beans. Watch a couple videos on people using the robot. That basket/"portafilter" seems like absolute ass to work with and there's no changing it.

What's the cheapest grinder that would produce coffee ground well enough so that /ctg/ wouldn't spit out and piss on coffee brewed with it?

>>18242861
Kingrinder

>>18242345
I have watched like 3 videos comparing the cafelat robot barista (~460) vs the Flair 58 (~580)
In every single video, the reviewer picks the 58.

Flair Neo <<< Flair Pro < Cafelat Robot < Flair 58

>>18242861
Coffee or espresso grinder?

>>18223024
Okay, Chuck. Do you want you space blanket?

>>18243140
Someone posted this on discord last night so I'll just steal it and add a bit. You can add pressure gauges to flairs and the robots later. I'd imagine shipping from hong kong is going to drive the price up on the robot's gauge, so probably better to just order it all together. Robot also has weird deep proprietary 57.5mm baskets so I think only their leveling tamper works? Flair has a us warehouse, a bunch of importers and a bunch of people making aftermarket tampers and shit.
>The good thing with the Flair machines is the modularity, you can upgrade the Neo to the Signature by buying the bottomless basket and the pressure gauge kit, this is the ceiling of the Neo model, if you go for the Classic you can upgrade to the Pro 2 brew head that allow you to go for larger doses in the basket.

>>18237468
Based AEROPRESS fan

>>18237468
ctg is a bripe™ general

>>18242345
doesn't need preheating or cannot be preheated? if you watch videos on the subject, you'd know it's the biggest fucking deal because cold metal sucks out all the hot out of your coffee and makes it brew wrong

>>18241756

Orbit drops incoming. Mazzer burrs. US only for now.
https://acaia.co/products/orbit

>>18244287
weak motor

>>18244389
Weak post. Drink any good coffee lately pal?

>>18244408
Yes

>>18244536
Glad to hear it. Should I brew up some ethiopian, peruvian, or guatamalan in the morning?

>>18244650
You should brew up some Sugondese

>>18241756
>tfw my parents actually went through the brief period of socialism.
I don't think they had coffee though

>>18242861
kinu classic

>>18244287
Doesn't seem $900 better than the DF64

>>18244691
You seem more like a copesta rican man.

>>18244650
I've been enjoying Guatemalan in a moka pot recently.

>>18244744
I origami'd some washed guat earlier. Clean cherry/berry sweetness. Very happy I snagged 20 lbs.

I hate manual grinding. It takes me 10 minutes to grind 20gr because I do it lying down and take breaks. I'm fed up with it

>>18244903
how fucking weak are you

>>18244744
Here comes the cityslicker with his fancy Guatemalan brew.

>>18243164
>espresso isn't coffee

>>18244903
Are you "grinding" it by smashing it with a rock wtf

>>18244912
>>18244929
I got brain damage or something. I'm tired of doing it all focused and standing up... I actually can see the value of a bean-to-cup machine now

>>18244931
>I can't stand for 1 minute

>>18244937
Man, 4chan has changed. What next thing you're gonna tell me is that you're not all lazy unemployed 30 year olds

>>18244941
I'm only 2 of those things

>>18240701
My unit came with both pressurized and non, but I did get another bottomless portafilter and an additional bigger ims basket. I got the df64 grinder because niche was impossible to get, while also being quite affordable. I do use wdt which helps a bit, while metal water screens does jack all for me. Probably included taper is just a tiny bit small and hard to use, it always channel mostly on a few holes on the outer rim. Figured I already got most good value buys already, which is why I wonder if I’m already at the point of diminishing returns and what’s the ceiling/possible.

I'm imagining this braindead guy with a permanent drool slick on his face, curled up in bed around a manual grinder, staring at it with dead fish eyes as he slowly turns the crank.

>>18244960
Fat disheveled loser staring at 4channel while half assedly cranking his overly thick black German grinder with his possibly too small hands...
>>18244942
Fair enough. For me, I need to pay more attention to the motorization options

>>18244960
What if they're actual fish eyes and he's an Innsmouth hybrid flopping around on his kitchen floor until he can put his gills back underwater?

>>18244903
?
>https://youtu.be/HdsqF83x9rA?t=221
you are a rok chad right anon?
i grind 30g every morning in my rok and at a comfortable pace it takes 30-45 seconds.
if i grind as fast as i can i can grind 30g in 20 seconds.
if you are using a manual grinder that is not in this format you are mentally retarded.

>>18244903
Found a pic of anon

>>18244903
Are you literally tilting the grinder too much because you’re lying down? Keep the grinder upright or beans won’t feed properly, heck just get a drip machine… it’s harder to mess up

>>18244971
Nah I'm the anon who can't handle Comandante's girth. The ROK looks good to me and it's actually more than what I have. It also forces you to stand up
>>18244983
I know I know you need to hold it upright and rotate it slowly for more torque so it grinds faster, I just can't be arsed anymore

>>18244990
>more than what I have
More affordable*
Anyway I gronde my 2 20gram doses for today. goff was good as always, but somehow I enjoyed it more when I just bought shitty preground turkish

>anon in bed, tearstained eyes, desperately trying to grind his beans
>"I... I just can't take it anymore... Coffee..."

>>18244993
>you don't have to tell me what happened but you do have to grind these

>>18244903
>apathetic fem-NEET grinds her bean while lying down
HOT.

>>18245002
Kek

>>18244972
I love otters

>>18244990
I see the problem, you need to grip it with your toes to generate that slow powerful torque. Your leg muscles are way stronger than your arms’

>>18244972
Too cute. More like one of these guys

>>18245025
yo i didnt know x had a twin?

>>18244903
What piece of shit are you using?

>>18245081
I wouldn't say redclix c40 mk4 is a piece of shit. It's even kind of a global standard for good manual espresso grinder

Is this thing any good?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D6D28KS/

>>18245102
And its globally recognized that it takes about a minute to grind espresso for a 58mm basket with one. It'll take a bit longer to grind than a more aggressive cutting burr like the kinu, but thats the price of clarity.

>>18245133
Yeah but that's only if you grind standing up and don't take breaks...

>>18245140
You're the only person in the world grinding at 0.03g/s. Fix yourself.

>>18245109
no. these old box style hand grinders suck.

>>18245210
t. sea otter

>>18245211
im a rok chad
i enjoy grinding my coffee by hand.

>>18244913
Based country boys can survive

>>18223975
Cuddling in bed with my coffee, my book, my cat
1/3 ain't bad I'm still working up the courage to make coffee

>>18245246
stop overfeeding that poor cat you monster

>>18244950
Sounds like you're pretty well setup, channelling will subside with repetitions and doing the same thing over and over and over again the same way - like you said, you're probably at the point of diminishing returns and you've got a very promising setup.

>>18245269
if that cat goes outside for even an hour there is a high chance it is getting food from somewhere/someone else.

>>18245246
Now that's a bonefide chonker. He looks pissed too

>>18245388
yeah because it's already been trained to eat nonstop
"cat lovers" are the biggest animal abusers

>>18245441
>yeah because it's already been trained to eat nonstop
yeh its called being an animal
dogs dont stop eating if food is still available
same as humans
babies or kids will keep eating if they can
you dont have to teach a cat to eat a lot of food.

woffee?

Bros my retarded breville espresso grinder can't produce coarse enough grounds for my chemex. Can you guys recommend a grinder that will work well for chemex for under 150 dollars if possible. Thank you.

>>18238925
bamp

hello, I'm starting to think coffee is the reason my stomach has been hurting for two weeks. anyone ever suddenly get pains from coffee? maybe because of empty stomach. hasn't been a problem before though

>>18245826
>maybe because of empty stomach.
never drink coffee on an empty stomach
cut down to 1 coffee per day after eating a good non acidic meal and see if anything changes.

>>18222816
a hario cold brew pot and a plastic jug to serve it in will only cost you like $30 USD.

>>18245833
I've been doing that every morning for years. i guess this is what happens when you age. I'll stop doing on empty stomach and see if it's the culprit

>>18245833
why?

>>18222066
>mélange blend
I've gotta try this

>>18246161
Highly acidic liquid that provokes digestion, which is the production of more acid. 2 much

God damn it ive been grinding 20g in this sinodante for weeks. I just want coffee bros :(

>>18246619
I offered to make coffee for my extended family during a christmas party and a few years down the line I'm about 2/3rds of the way through grinding it. I think some of them have passed away since I started so I can actually finish up in just a few more months!

>>18245246
I wish I had a chonker cat

>>18246948
You don't wish you had a healthy cat instead?

>>18246987

>>18247287
Redditors love obese cats

>>18247287
Redditors like you literally shit and cum over heckin chonkerinos

>>18244923
For coffee, you can definitely get by with a sub 300 dollar grinder
For espresso, a 300 dollar grinder is pushing it and anything less than a Niche (~650) will get you laughed out of town by elitists

>>18246987
No, I want a fat cow cat to cuddle with.

>>18247499
Just get a fat cow instead

>>18247503
this or a bunny

>>18247525
Nah bunnies are shit. If you want a rodent at least get a guinea pig or a rat if you're a chad

>>18247481
Niche gets laughed out of town by elitists, don't worry.

>>18247622
Elitists may look down on Niche relative to their 2000+ dollar grinder but that's it. Niche is Hoffman approved™

>>18218064
>what is the ultimate coffee?

Each and every cup of straight black goodness. Nigger I'll even drink a burnt roast. COFFEE!

>>18247950

>>18220472
I just use the hario cold brew pot with pre-ground that I get from the supermarket that's on special. I bought some speciality stuff recently that was specifically cold brew ground and the taste isn't that much different to the cheap, ultra fine stuff.