/ck/ - Food & Cooking

why are you having both rice and some shitty macaroni salad

I cook at home but you're on some Baboosh-level shittery here, anon. Post the full fucking price, you don't buy oil a tablespoon at a time. Hurrrr let me just buy one clove of garlic and cut open the tofu package in the store.

>>18244532
You cook at home but you don't have basic shit like oil and garlic on hand?

>>18244530
White people love macaroni salad with they soup

>>18244530
It's customary to have some side dishes (반찬) with Korean food.
>>18244612
Lol. It's actually a Hawaiian thing. It's really nice to have a bite of hot rice with something salty and then have a bite of some cool, mayo laden macaroni salad. It's all about balance and moderation.

>>18244532
It's cost -per serving- you gigantic nigger.

You can easily take this and scale it up, and the cost per serving won't change.

>Eckrich Original Franks - $2.50
>Bunny Bread Wheat Sliced - $2.00
>Boiled - like, $1.00?
>Pan Fried - about $1.00?
>Microwaved - what, $0.25?
>Hotdog Makered - not gonna bother
>Salt to taste - free
Why do people think that it's expensive to cook at home?

>>18244694
>not using the xerox machine next to the stove to make copies of your hotdogs and eat free for life

>>18244707
countertop dishwasher? if you could hook it up to a bluetooth faucet you could save a prenny petty.

>>18244523
>2tbs sesame oil – 10 ¢
I doubt it

>>18244781
Shit dude, you're right. It should be more like 25-30 cents per oz. Abandon thread. OP completely btfo.

>>18244815
no half steppers

>>18244820
Those could really use some macaroni salad.

>>18244820
This. Half measures availed us of nothing.

this is what food look like before it explodes......

>>18244851
You should probably try some meth, anon. Based on your location it shouldn't be too difficult to find. I'm not sure that's what makes gas station employees so much better at cooking hot dogs than you, but I swear sometimes they leave them on the rollers for days at a time and I've never seen one explode, so they must be doing something right.

You can't buy those quantities. You entire post is invalid.

>>18244898
>you can't buy those quantities
And yet OP somehow managed to acquire them.

>>18244532
>>18244898
Shelf stable ingredients that most people who cook - ever - have on hand:
>cooking oil
>salt
>sugar
>rice
Shelf stable ingredients that most people who cook Asian food typically have on hand:
>hondashi
>sesame oil
>korean chili pepper
>furikake
Cheap produce that most people who cook, even just for themself, typically have on hand and can buy small enough quantities of to go through over the course of a week:
>bacon
>onion
>garlic
>green onion
That leaves kimchi, tofu, and macaroni salad. Forget about the macaroni salad. I always pick up some kimchi at the Asian grocery store and just view it as another pickle in my fridge to snack on. The tofu I picked up on a whim, and used some to make a quick curry dish a few nights ago, and then made some miso soup yesterday (miso paste is like $5 for a tub and will literally last a year in the fridge). Pic related is miso soup. It used the same tofu, onion, green onion, and hondashi.

>>18244523
>400g of macaroni, ~40 cents
>100g of butter, ~70 cents
>two onions, ~30–40 cents
>half a head of cabbage, ~50 cents
There you go. About 30 cents per serving.

>>18245004
I'm from 'murrica and we wouldn't serve this to our prisoners.

>>18244894
i appreciate how quick you were to disregard the possibility that it's me and not the quality of the dog, or the quality of the hotdog maker. you're a class act.
you think you can do better buddy? i want 4 hotdogs. same ways. bread, salt if you want.

>>18244523
You're paying a dollar for one onion?
Food looks good.

>>18244919
Are you mentally impaired? They’re obviously dividing the price by the amount they used only. Are you retarded by chance?

>>18245023
>a dollar for one onion
It's probably less than that. They're sold by weight individually and it's such a cheap item I honestly don't even pay attention if I'm only buying one at a time.
>food looks good
Thanks. I haven't done a proper cook along in awhile, but after throwing this together and tasting how good it was I felt like I should take a few pictures and make a thread, since it was so easy and cheap, and I'm kind of sick of seeing people here bitching about food prices and cooking. It's just a variation on Maangchi's recipe, which I've been making for the past ~5 or so years.
>>18245021
Salt isn't free.

>>18245014
That's literally an American recipe.

>>18245074
Did you get it from a cookbook from 1932 or something? Even if you adjusted for inflation the prices are still wonky, and it's kind of weird that you adjusted all the measurements to metric.

>>18244523
I do not cook often. As a result, lots of ingredients expire/get stale. As a result, 1 clove garlic costs $1 rather than 5c.

For me, ready meals are cheaper. Heck, even eating out is cheaper (depending on the meal).

nothing like 1982 Tron and early heart health issues at 4:30 in the morning

>>18244523
>store bought kimchi
Why even live?

>>18245123
Anon, I would like to apologize for suggesting earlier that you should try meth. You are very clearly tweeking. (Seriously, though, drink some water.)

>>18245132
you sound like you should lay off the prescription pills

>>18245086
The recipe is from the 30's. The prices are in euros and the amounts in metric because I live in Europe and use the metric system. The prices are also in today's money.

>>18245138
So it basically has absolutely nothing to do with current year American food in any way , shape, or form.

>>18245150
So? It's still an American dish, or at least an American version of an Eastern European dish.

>>18244523
WHERE'S THE FUCKING MEAT?

>>18244523
People who suck at cooking and fuck up the whole dish to the point of having to throw it out think cooking is expensive.

>>18245162
Literally the second line of OP.

>>18245110
Have you considered cooking large batches to freeze?

>>18245169
What, a single strip of bacon? 40 grams of meat?

>>18245175
Let me guess: you need more?

>>18245183
I do prefer my dinners to have100-150 grams of meat yes, and that's entirely reasonable

>>18245189
>he eats meat daily
NGMI

>>18245195
>he eats food instead of a carefully formulated vitamin slop
It's over

>>18245171
I have. I didn't enjoy eating the same stuff for several days in a row.

>>18245231
What if you were to freeze several different batches?
Spaghetti sauce
Soup
Chilli
Lasagna
Meatballs
Any number of meats frozen raw

All last a long time

>>18244986
Tl;dr

>>18245189
Between the bacon and tofu there's plenty of protein.

>>18245110
You're essentially using "I don't cook often" as the excuse for why you don't cook often. Also, it's not the end of the world if you can't finish a whole head of garlic before it goes bad.

>>18245125
I used to buy a big tub from a restaurant I would go to a couple times a month. I'm pretty sure the grandma who made the kimchi daily didn't make it through covid.

>>18245162
There was a decent amount of pork in there. Usually you'd use pork belly, but I used bacon because it lasts longer in the fridge and there's lots of other things I can use it for. Plus the smokiness somewhat makes up for the fact that I didn't have any gochujang on hand.

>>18245171
People always suggest this, but I don't think realize that that's actually more daunting to people who don't cook regularly. It sounds like a big project that needs to be planned, and there's going to be a bunch of dishes, and then you have to freeze it, and plan ahead to pull it out the day before when you want to eat it, and... I know it's technically less work, but just making a simple meal, cleaning as you go, and being done with it is probably a lot more approachable for a lot of people, and starting with smaller projects will give you more confidence compared to making a big batch of something and having to worry that it wont turn out good because you don't know what you're doing.

>>18244523
yeah, but at the end of the day, you are still eating chink food

>>18247790
It's rice and stew, dude.

>>18244523
where in the fuck can i buy a tablespoon of oil?

>>18248043
Any grocery store, drug store, gas station, and probably even Walmart. They have hundreds if not thousands of tablespoons worth just lined up right there on the shelf.

>>18248077
i just want one tablespoon

Kimchi is nowhere near that cheap where I am. Good thing I make my own - think it was about $30 to make 4kg.

>>18248120
Do you go to the movie theater and ask for 6 kernels of popped corn? You fucking nigger.

>>18248120
Nobody is forcing you to use the entire bottle.

>>18244523
Tofu is disgusting and I could get 12 serving at Mama Lupe's for $13

>>18248194
Isn't Mama Lupe's a tortilla company? What are you even talking about?

>>18244523
You really used just one clove of garlic for a whole soup? Might as well not use anything.

>>18248800
>a whole soup
There's literally 1 cup of broth in the entire thing.

>this is so fake!
>you can't buy a single tablespoon of oil or one clove of garlic!!
What's wrong with you people? Do you seriously wake up every morning and create the universe before you put your shoes on?

>>18249457
>he doesn't cobble a new pair of shoes every morning
>he keeps used shoes on hand
Poorfag detected

>>18244523
It’s so fucking retarded when people cut ingredient cost down to what is used for a single dish.
Either demonstrate the cost of making a dish with no leftover ingredients and no leftover servings, or stop making this dumbass comparison.

>>18245164
this
spices and oils keep indefinitely and if you know how to cook and keep a kitchen, cooking is easy, fast, cheap, and mess-free
there is basically no reason to ever buy take out or frozen foods

>>18244523
where tf can you find a pack of bacon for under 5 bucks

>>18250618
>spices and oils keep indefinitely
who told you this?

>>18250591
>It’s so fucking retarded when people cut ingredient cost down to what is used for a single dish.
it literally isn't because the ingredients like rice, spices, oils, etc., last indefinitely and are used multiple times over multiple days. There is no waste.
If you're actually including the entire value of the spice when you're only using a tablespoon of it in a dish then you're a fucking moron

>>18250629
spices keep for literally 3-4 years if stored properly, oils last about half a year, and if you cook everyday you're going to run out of the oils and spices far far sooner than they goes bad.

>>18250591
>when people cut ingredient cost down to what is used for a single dish
That's literally how you calculate food cost. How do you think restaurants set their menu prices? They don't pull them out of thin air.

>>18244523
Because of the other front-loaded costs, like a $3000 stove or $500 Dutch oven.

>>18251501
>i need to buy the largest, most expensive, designer brand enameled dutch oven before i can start cooking for myself
Also, who the fuck doesn't have a stove?

>>18251488
I’m not a restaurant. I’m not buying enough pizza ingredients to make 500 pizzas. When I go to a restaurant, I’m purchasing both a product and a service.
Comparing restaurant food cost to home food cost is silly and disingenuous as fuck

>>18251613
It's only a quantitative difference. Of course you're not buying enough ingredients to make 500 pizzas at home, and nobody is forcing you to. The same principles apply to food costs either way. You people keep acting like if you buy a bag of flour and only make a single pizza you have to throw out the rest of the flour at the end of the night. That's just not how anything works.

>>18244523
>not including the cost to operate your applances and the time-efficiency of your work compared to how much you get paid
"Per-serving" faggots are such shysters. Hey! I can create a zero dollar meal using stuff in my pantry! It costs zero dollars to take stuff out of your pantry! Try it and like and subscribe and give me hella upvotes! Everything is sooooooo cheap!

>>18251546
>who the fuck doesn't have a stove
Imagine being this much of a sheltered retard that you think stoves are universal and free. Did your parents feed you with a silver spoon?

>>18251652
Did your parents raise you in a barn?

>>18251645
>It costs zero dollars to take stuff out of your pantry!
The cost of all the pantry ingredients is included in the OP, but go ahead and keep making things up.

>>18251654
>he thinks everyone had parents
>he thinks everyone owns a barn
lmao. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone lived in magical happyland where every home had luxuriously appliances and two car garages!

>>18251670
You have social troubles due to misunderstanding nuance, don't you?

>>18251629
>You people keep acting like
Fucking lol “you people”? Anyone who disagrees with this is a monolithic bloc?
No.

The point is what I fucking said. I’m buying a product and a service. And this “per serving” bullshit disregards the service, and reduced the product to raw material. And it’s a ludicrous oversimplification on top of that, unless I also get to factor in the cost of utensils, rent/mortgage, and everything else that enables me to cook the meal because I’m not doing it over an open fire on public land.
It’s as retardedly disingenuous as comparing the cost of a house to the cost of the trees made into lumber.

>>18251679
I've lived in shitty studio apartments and there was still a "kitchen". Having a fucking stove isn't some luxury item you can only afford if you own a house with a two car garage. You're definitely the sheltered one.

>>18251688
Nobody was talking about the service, though. Spending 10-15 minutes of your own time has nothing to do with money or labor cost. And no, you're not "too busy" to cook when you're here posting on 4chan. And from the fact that you're posting on 4chan, and the food and cooking board no less, it's a pretty easy inference to make that you live in some kind of house or apartment, and since most of those have some form of kitchen, and since that kitchen must be somewhat stocked, you do not need to factor in any of that other shit you brought up. The condition of possibility of us even having this conversation is that things like rent/mortgage is already taken care of, and that your time isn't worth that much, because here you are.

>>18251729
>nobody was talking about the service
Sorry, this >>18251645 anon brought it up. I ignored his post because of the "like and subscribe upvotes" shit. Anyone who's constantly thinking about e-celebs doesn't have an original thought in their head.

>>18251546
>he buys shitty cookware and ends up spending more over the long term

>>18251729
>restaurant comparison is legit
>but ignore all the related restaurant things
>and ignore other expensive that make it a more direct comparison
Okay. I guess we’ve reached an impasse.

>>18251957
Nothing was ignored. I explained how those were moot points. If you can't follow an argument then yes, an impasse has been reached.

>eating gookslop
lol
lmao

>>18251988
>replace dashi with chicken stock
>replace kimchi with plain cabbage
>replace tofu with whatever's on sale stew meat
>replace sesame oil and chili with butter, thyme, and rosemary
>replace rice with potatoes
Wow, you essentially have the exact same dish but because now it's a generic stew half of /ck/ would be shitting themselves and calling it the best looking thing posted in years.

>>18251679
>he thinks everyone owns a barn
Where are you from, anon? You have really bad reading comprehension, and also think it's normal to live in a place without a kitchen. I'm honestly curious.

>>18252057
To be fair, this is probably a little more complex than the stew that typically gets posted here.

>>18250633
Spices keep for awhile, but 3-4 years is really pushing it. I can't think of anything I keep more than a year. The quality really starts to degrade no matter how well you store things. This is honestly another boomer myth; my parents had every spice under the sun in a drawer when I was growing up, but by the time I started cooking (and especially after I came back to visit after moving out) I realized how stale all their shit was.