/ck/ - Food & Cooking

You are a child and argue like a child

>>18167805
Real pizza is decent enough, it's the trash fast food pizza that destroys you.

>good for you
wtf does that really mean?
it's vague and stupid

>>18167805
>3 times your recommended daily intake of salt plus carcinogenic cured meats and 2700 calories in a medium pizza

>>18167805
I take issue with all three premises.

Most cheese is neutral, at best. The only "good" cheeses aren't robust and tangy, they're stuff like goats cheese and cottage cheese, typically pretty flat on the palette.

Meat isn't really that good for you either. Lean cuts are fine in moderation, but eating more than five or so servings of meat a week is definitely bad for general health and longevity, some meat can be an exception, like bivalves and anchovies and shit. Pretty sure you could eat anchovies every day without increasing your risk of colorectal cancer.

Whole tomatoes are good for you; pureed tomatoes mixed with sugar and salt and oil and vinegar, not so much.

The problem with pizza isn't that it lacks nutrients, just that it is calorie dense as opposed to nutrient dense. Modern pizza often sacrifices nutrients for taste - rich sauces, fatty meats, preserved vegetables that are high in sodium, all on a wheat bread base where the healthiest part of the wheat (the germ) has been removed, leaving nothing but empty calories.

>>18167811
Don't hurt yourself. I was able to discern what they meant by "good" and "healthy" so you don't have to.

Didn't even strike me as particularly nebulous concepts, but here we are.

>>18167805
don't ignore the fact that like 2/3 to 3/4 of a pizza in weight is white bread you faggot.

>>18167862
>bread is bad

>>18167854
>Meat isn't really that good for you either.
Kek. What a fucking pseud.

>>18167811
It means you need to trust the science

>>18167805
American pizza is bad for you
Italian pizza is not bad.

American pizza has sugar in the sauce and they use chemicals to make the dough artificially fluffy.

If you don't live in Itally or near any place that has wood fired pizza, make them at home.

>>18167868
bread made from refined flour might not be good for you. neither is getting a majority of your calories from white flour.

>>18167857
>all foods affect all people identically
healthy for whom?
and who says "pizza is bad for you?"
only retards like op would listen to this nonsense

>>18167854
>pureed tomatoes mixed with sugar and salt and oil and vinegar, not so much.

Who the fuck uses sugar and vinegar on pizza

>>18167854
>meat bad
>salt bad
>cheese bad

lemme guess, ur a fucking lib haha

>>18167854
>some meat can be an exception, like bivalves and anchovies
>meat full of mercury and pcbs
>good for you

>>18167973
>Who the fuck uses sugar
Sugar in tomato sauce came from Italians. If you aren't using high quality tomatoes with the right level of ripeness that's the way to make them still work.

>>18168023
>Sugar in tomato sauce came from Italians.
>southern eyetalians
dropped

>>18168023
Michael is a really common Italian name obviously

A pinch of sugar is used when tomatoes are particularly acidic because shit quality, it is like adding a pinch of salt. There's barely any sugar in tomato sauce

>>18167854
>>18168017
>>18167975
im sick of this shit, people did not give one flying fuck if "meat was bad for you" for 18 centuries since the death of Jesus Christ and yet now we question it? did our forefathers who ate whatever they could grab a hold of turn out weak men, with a catalog of diseases from eating meat, eating salt, eating fat? no. they ate hearty meals, of meat, of fish, of fat, of salt, of oil, of vinegar, and went to do real work. they ate the few vegetables that were in season, whatever fruits they could naturally get a hold of, and ate bread if they couldn't afford more meat.
yet now we hear of people saying "too much of [x] will lead to [x] diseases." and of course these people are fatasses. complete bullshit! the only thing man can eat to kill him is poison and refined, granulated sugar.
the only caution i would take is with fish from the ocean, because plastic has spread itself like cancer and nobody has put reigns on China and India and other large polluters, nor here domestically on small polluters to put a stop to plastic's dispersion into everything.
>if you're not fat, eat;
>if you're fat, don't eat;
>if you ate, work;
>and eat a variety of food from what surrounds you.
these are the principles of eating, known to man naturally, but coerced into being forgotten.