/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18157238
Painted

>>18157238
i don't
i brew my own at home

Since I'm running out of beans I brewed two 15g cups, one ground at 36 and another at 42, 36 was bitter aftertasty and 42 was sour hollow, which means flavortown is between the two. I hate this. Why do all-purpose grinders exist? Who in the world is in the market for home espresso who only has $200 in their budget for a grinder? Why wouldn't you just get two?

where has all the coffee gone?

>>18157238
I make my own coffee with the freshly roasted beans from the local roastery, usb burr grinder and hario v60
Extremely delicious cup everytime, but this wasting so much time (~10 min)

>>18157238
i haven't gotten out to a coffee shop in years now unfortunately, but a nice quality vanilla flat white connects my soul to god

I don't get it

>>18157238
The guy at my local roaster made me a pour over with these Rwandan beans and it was the best cup of coffee I ever had.

>>18157565
Should have gotten a Breville SGP

>>18158510
I just got one. Whats the best espresso machine under $30 to pair with it?

>>18158522
There is no reason for a used Flair 58 Pro to cost more than $30

>>18158522
>Whats the best boiling water pressurizer within a price point that neglects all potential considerations for engineering quality or safety?
Just wait another paycheck retard

>>18158522
Moka pot

Has anyone here ever made a pour-over dripper? I recently noticed a glass bottle from some ACV I finished had a rather nice shape, size, and density. Thinking about cutting the glass, maybe making a stand, etc.

There's no reason a recycled ACV bottle dripper should cost more than $30 on etsy.

>>18159068
Exactly, so why not make my own? I would have done it already if I could find my glass cutter.

Did I drink the coffee or did the coffee drink me?

>>18154436
Not really 1000$. The Bambino is around 400€, but there's a sale right now for 300€ and the smart grinder pro is 200—250€.
How much more entry level could I go? Delonghi Dedica is cheaper, but I don't think it's the right choice for milk drinks. And I don't know of any cheaper grinders that are any good.
If I ever wanted to upgrade I'd probably get a Niche Zero (that should be around 650-700€). But the goal is not to upgrade anytime soon, so I don't want to buy things I'd be disappointed with within weeks.

>>18158510
I have one and it's been the cause of the headaches this whole time. My Baratza Encore probably wouldn't have these problems, if I had one and the seller didn't do something dumb like ship it with USPS

>>18159560
Fellow ode. /ctg/s recommended entry and endgame espresso grinder.

>>18157238
Black unironically

What is the point of an americano?

>>18159956
Did they change out the factory burrs for something not shit, or is the official /ctg/ guidance to spend Niche money modding a goofy little brew grinder until it does something it wasn't designed for? Appropriate for 4chan, I guess.

>>18159971
I have no fucking clue senpai

>>18157238
soy latte or matcha

>>18159980
The official ctg guidance is to ignore fellow and everyone who has one and burn out the motor grinding espresso in the goofy little brew grinder. Power ratings are a myth etc etc.

>>18159971
You’re supposed to drink it

>>18157502
Do you buy your coffee from the local coffee shop?

I want an aeropress that's made of stainless steel and twice the capacity and no it's not the same as a french press

>>18160317
What if I don't wanna drink it?

>>18160825
>no it's not the same as a french press
That's right. It's a clever dripper.

>>18160825
Just slam the plunger super hard

>>18159766
The SGP is a meme you aren't actually supposed to buy it. If you actually bought an SGP after seeing it shilled here then you did the equivalent of going to /biz/ and taking "buy high sell low" literally

>>18157238
rare

>>18160924
Literally didn't even know /ck/ had a coffee general until I was having piss poor results with my Hario and thought I'd give the cheapo grinder Hoffmeme recommended in passing in his duper cheap espresso video a try

>>18160938
>listening to coffeetubers

>>18160952
We get it, he made fun of you for daily driving a Flair, but you're the one who forgot to account for a way to make milk drinks and is stuck drinking straight espresso or tricking your JMax into giving you a brew grind that isn't shit.

>>18160952
I do just him though

>>18160972
*blocks your path*

>>18160972
Uhm achsually a secondhand Flair 58 is the cheapest expresso maker under $500 on the market right now. This cheap expresso maker allows me to divert all of my funds to buying grinders and burrs and plastic crap to decant my melobrew through to increase extraction

>>18160952
I'd agree but whoever bakes bullied the pastebin anon off so coffeetubers are really the only decent source of learning availible here

>>18161024
for me it's ricing my refurb flair pro with a $500 android connected pressure gauge and posting the pressure graphs on /ctg/

>>18161026
I have nothing against coffeetubers I just post it to make Sprometheuscels seethe

>>18161024
>>18161058
Look at them melt.

>>18161024
Robot is better than Flair and cheaper

>>18161167
just say you dont have sex and move on
>>18161179
just say you dont know anything and move on

>>18161191
this is probably the gayest meme on /ck/ right now

I just ordered some light roast Ethopian yirgacheffe natural and some high altitude SL34 Kenyan washed, cinnamon roast
On a scale of 10 to 10, please rate how much I am going to enjoy my purchase

>>18161191
Holy cope

>>18161202
you will love the first half of the bag and hate the last half.
you won't buy it again for 3-4 months because you will forget why you didnt like it.
you will then buy some natural process burundi medium roast.

>>18161255
Fuck should I put some burundi on this order?

>>18161285
i can only vouch for natural process, i dont have experience with washed burundi sorry.
actually thanks for reminding me to check in with my roaster to see if they have any new products.

i am also interested in that costa rica you have there, love to hear what you think of it.
i will have to go back through my notes because im pretty sure i had some from costa rica a few months back.

is coffee good for you?

>>18161598
Didn't you just post in /g/?

>>18161602
No

>>18161539
One of those geshas is a natural Costa Rican too. Decided to skip the Burundi for now. Shipping was cheap so I'll just put in another order.

Turkish coffee is a lot stronger than I expected, really good. I had to improvise because I don't have a Turkish coffee pot.

>>18161683
>Turkish coffee pot.
you should get one, great for making real hot chocolate too.

>>18161685
Hmm, I'll have to check that out.

>>18157238
>>18157502
>>18160689
What's your preferred beans?

>>18157751
Think of the time as meditation. Ommmmmmmmmmmmm

>>18157238
I get a large iced coffee from Tims everyday but last Monday I decided to go to Robins instead and got a black hot coffee. Didn't taste burnt, bretty good desu

>>18161847
cold coffee on hot day...

>>18161683
Do you add the spices?

Cezve or aeropress. Ephiopian beans medium to light roast. No milk or sugar.

>>18157238
either cortado or smaller (8 oz cup) latte.

I forgot I was supposed to do a tasting and I let it get cold and now I have no more beans

38 bloom mixed together nice and easily and the extraction was nice and even, while 40 just had parts of the bed absorb the bloom water and not share it with the rest, and there were clumps on the paper I couldn't get rid of.

Tasting notes are meaningless because the drinks are so cold. All possible notes are overpowered by a biting harshness that I can't tell whether it's sour or bitter. I think it's lesser in 40 than 38 so it might be bitterness, but when I clean my palate with Sprite it's effects are reduced, and I don't know what that means.

But was I ever going to get good results with this $15/lb Amazon Special guat from Java Planet with all the badges? Maybe March is too long resting and getting to stale time?

>>18162050
Turkish coffee doesn't usually have spices anon

Cum yourself Turkish.

it's good bros

>>18162472
It's probably not even 6 months past roast date (perfectly rested) so why would I ever buy that crap

>I buy beans so oily they go rancid within the week

Who are you quoting, schizo?

>>18162729
Some bozo who sits on supermarket floors looking for that elusive bag of week old stumptown.

Why don't you anons just make coldbrew with your stale coffee? Just because it isn't fresh enough to make a decent hot cup doesn't mean it's no good for coldbrew. At the minimum, you can use it for compost/fertilizer or in cosmetics, etc. Such a waste to throw it all away the second you find it off peak perfection.
>t. anon that has 2y+ old unground coffee on hand and still makes flavorful coldbrew with it.

I want to get into cold-brewing, but I don't already drink coffee so I'll have to gear up from scratch. What's a convenient way to filter the coffee, preferably one that works both with and without paper filters?

I'd tell you what I have and recommend, but one of the same two retards would just sperg out and call me a shill so why bother.

>>18162926
You don't need any filter. You shake the jar of coldbrew but a few times during the process (twice is fine) and the grounds inevitably sink to the bottom. Then you just pour off the side into another vessel until you start to get notable sediment. Very easy.

For me its the Robot. Way better and way less complicated workflow than the chinapress.
https://youtu.be/gaoMg1qYaTM

https://ember.com/products/ember-travel-mug-2
Someone just gave me this, right out of the box. $200 for this, glad i didnt fucking buy it. Ill use it for a bit though lol

BEST goffee methods
>flemex
>360
>aeroplane
>bench press

>>18157238
Anyone else taking a break from coffee and caffeine? I feel like I'm dying.

>>18163566
yes, but your teeth are gonna be so white, its worth it keep going
and no fap too

>>18163594
yeah, white from all the cum that gets on them

Tired of my local shop. What should I order that's Moka pot appropriate? It's the only thing I have.

>>18163650
Based.

>>18163438
I liek teh pee70

anyone reccomend a good BRITISH roaster?

Pulled 3 shots with wildly different grind sizes and times at work today, they all tasted the same.
When did you realize “dialing in” is a psyop to get you to waste money on gear when you should be trying different coffees instead?

>>18157238
Has anyone had Dutch Bros? Every time I go I get the Dutch Freeze and the coffee flavor is so rich that it almost has silky chocolate taste to it.
How can I emulate this at home?

>>18164081
Sounds like you've got covid. Sucks.

>>18164064

>>18164259
> And I hope you have a great day.

>>18157238
Today I had my coffee with some white chocolate chips mixed in

>>18162890
>stale
perfectly. rested.

>>18164456
>https://youtu.be/YbXbcQEFPOU?t=237
i actually came at this bit

>>18164637
Same two retards.

>>18164713
I'm not involved in any of their nonsense. I just posted about coldbrew.

>>18164735
I'll make sure to hot bloom cold brew some of that medium roast 36hr pacamera. After I let it go stale for a few weeks.

>>18164786
>stale
PERFECTLY. RESTED.

>>18164788
When all your coffee is fresh, none of it is.

>>18164797
When all of my cock is in your ass, none of it is.

>>18164806
Easy there Lance. We've been over this.

>>18164808
what's wrong with his eyebrows

>>18164811
Laughs are cheap, man. They're going for gasps. Gasps are where it's at.

New espresso machine checking in. After drinking that cat piss I went out the 2nd day and bought a nice medium-dark roast and everything has been fantastic since. Glorious coffee, glorious lattes.

The problem was obviously the well-meaning advice "buy good fresh specialty coffee from your local roasters".
But many of them are third wave hipsters who make only light roasts. They don't label them either, they just consider that a given and only print the tasting notes like "apricot, tropical fruit, ginseng".
And it looks like if you put those in an espresso machine, what comes out is sour poison.

The strange part is that, apparently, some hipsters nowadays DRINK that acid and say it's good!
Well, at least I've learned something about third wave coffee. As usual, we Americans are doing some interesting things to the world of food.

>>18165167
Buy espresso roasts not the filter moron.

>>18165172
From what I've now read, it's offensive to coffee lovers to even say "espresso roast".
Because, they think, light roasts should be used for espresso too.
Which now that I've tasted it is insane, but apparently this is what hipsters are doing.

>>18165184
Light espresso roast darker than light filter roast.

>>18165188
Yeah, i'm understanding that now.
Seems like what's suitable for espresso goes from what's called Full City to Italian+.

Unfortunately that means for many roasters, it looks like pretty much their entire gamut is off limits, they don't roast anything that far.
I'm kinda disappointed since I want to try all this weird ethiopian, etc stuff but without drinking sour coffee.

>>18165230
Are you understanding what people mean when they say darker roasts are more forgiving? The darker the roast, the more soluble the coffee, the easier it is to extract evenly. Now learn how to dial in light roasts. Higher temps, finer grinds, longer preinfusion, longer ratio is usually a good place to start. Or just pull blooming shots or turbos.

>>18165268
I'm sure all that will help, but what I suspect is that the acidity still won't be tolerable to me even with the most masterful dialing-in. It's probably a matter of taste.
One of these days I'll get around to some local shops and ask them for their (presumably dialed in) light roast coffee to see what can be done with it in the best case scenario.

>>18165230
Next you'll figure out blends work better for espresso than single origin

>>18164082
Ask for coffee beans that are nutty, caramelly and chocolatey.

>>18165167
Sounds like your beans were not rested long enough. Try again in 6 months.

I made coffee and it made me poop

I drink my coffee 4 days off roast because the British coffee guy who sells coffee told me to.

>>18165167
Wtf i admit light roast specialty is somewhat a novelty however
Coffee has always been kind if tangy/acidic, especially espresso, except when you are doing it the spanish or italian way

Will this make my dark roast grocery store beans last longer? I'm tired of throwing away half a bag every other day.

>>18161285
>gesha bundle
>nyeri
>costa rica
bruh what are you doing

>>18167663
freeze each portion and then take 1 out of the fridge the night before you want to use it and let it thaw out overnight.
never refreeze beans.

or alternatively you could use a high humidity method
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7xEbf1mkm0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcXK1MZJDAM

>>18167663
good chance they were not fresh when you bought them
great chance that they taste terrible regardless of freshness
Why put effort in to make your coffee better, if you aren't even buying decent coffee to start with?

Just got coffee roasted 4 days ago. How long do I have to wait until it's drinkable?

>>18168641
Not sure if you're memeing but it's ready

>>18168346
Just sampling a site I've never ordered from. You get to pick the next 8-10lbs.
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/collections/green-coffee
>>18168641
Define drinkable.

>>18168654
>4 days off roast
>ready
just say you dont know anything and move on

Just roasted some peruvian. When should I throw it away?

>>18157238
> 1 spoon of nescafe
> 1 spoon of powdered milk
> 1 spoon of sugar
> hot water
> stir

>>18168871
after your first goffee.

Need to pick up a bag of halfcaf or decaf and feel like trying something different than my usual fare. Where do you guys get yours?

>>18167663
>grocery store beans
If they didn't have a roast date on the bag then they weren't any better when you bought them than they were a week later

>>18168795
I've been roasting for a couple years, the first few days it just off gasses more which alters brewing but it's still very drinkable. I've brewed some 4 hours after roasting it still tastes fine.

What's the best tasting, cheap black coffee I can get at a supermarket?

>>18168795
Off gassing is a fucking meme made up by coffeetubers and redditors. You are only going to be impacted by this if you are immediately trying to pull shots of very dark beans within the first few days of roasting due to C02 physically disrupting the shot.
You will never be a coffeetuber, so stop pretending you can notice the difference between 16 week old perfectly rested beans and ones roasted five days ago.

>>18170282
Everyone knows coffee spoils 4 hours after roasting. You're playing yourself kid.

>>18167663
I really hope this isn't a troll and you are actually concerned about how to vacuum pack stale mass market supermarket beans

>18170524
Look, he's melting again.

>>18168871
Based. Yesterday I roasted some Peruvian beans for summer ‘24 consumption.

You're telling me this is two day old coffee? What the fuck man.

Can I go to a cafe and get an iced latte? It's very hot here today...

>>18170898
yes, you deserve it. treat yourself. we are alive

>>18170901
Ok thanks, I found this article
https://www.wikihow.com/Order-Iced-Coffee

>>18170282
I wait 1 day to be at least drinkable, I find same day roasted beans sometimes taste harsh or even have undesirable/chemical-like flavors. Resting 2 days have the largest jump, with it peaking at 1-1.5 weeks. I suppose if I have zero beans then I’d drink same day roasted beans.

>>18170898
Here you go fren.

>buy 'medium roast' online
>beans are pitch black

there really should be a law against this.

>>18171278
Judge the beans of the content of their character not the color of their skin

>>18171303
they taste like charcoal

Are there any good coffee youtubers other than pic related? I’m trying to learn more.

>>18171353
he's so dreamy bros......

going camping, so I went to an asian mart and got some instant coffee+whitener+sugar packets.

Normally, I do a single cup moka pot in the mornings and drink that black.

At a coffee shop? I don't normally go to them, but if it's a chain - large black coffee. If it's a local joint downtown - double espresso, long.

>>18171353
Coffee with April
Lance Hedrick
Brian Quan
Sprometheus
Kyle Rowsell

Got some Mexican decaf from the local roaster, roasted about 2 weeks ago
Ground it up with my Breville, three batches at 36, 43, and 50
Some of the absolute muddiest beds and longest brew times I've ever seen, 36 took 9 minutes and 50 took 5 (guess how long 43 took)
Problem is that they all taste exactly the same with the same sour-hollow taste that says I underextracted
I did have problems with retention and the 36 batch did weigh a gram less than the 43 did the 50
Should I try again and make sure to hit my goal weight on the dot?
Or does it not matter and the next step is to try grinding even finer for a brew time of a quarter hour?
Or is that just what Mexican tastes like? was I supposed to interpret that sourness as sweetness and that's where they get the tasting notes "nougat, caramel, chocolate, creamy body"?

STOP CALLING LATTES AND FLAT WHITES CAPPUCCINOS FUCKING FUCK SHIT PISS FUCK

>made some goffee
>everything going great
>drink it
mfw

just turkish for me

>>18172957
I wanna correct myself, it was filtered turkish with a scoop of vanilla hagen dazs plopped in. It was preddy guud

Well, after using the Robot exclusively for about a month and a half, I finally repaired my La Pavoni (leaky seal and a damaged pressurestat) and unfortunately despite loving the aesthetics and workflow of the Robot, the LP makes much better espresso.
Why is that? Is it the higher temperature?

>>18170514
You're a moron. Dark roast has little CO2 left so it needs no off gassing. Get some good bright natural right after roast and do an experiment. Always the same brewing method with same parameters, except the coffee is separated in time after roast
>fresh
>a few days after roast
>1-2 batches every week/ 5 days

IMHO naturals are best at ~4 weeks after roast.
So, see you in a few weeks when you'll post here saying that there is a difference and thanking me for learning something new.

>>18173961
Look man I told em I was drinking some natural Bali I roasted up on the 10th and they lost their fucking minds.

just ordered and aeropress. is my coffee experience going to increase significantly?

Holy shit with the retention on the Breville, it's as constipated as I am!

>>18174214
Water spray bottle is a good idea, or if you can't be fucked doing the teaspoon handle thing still helps. I used to beat the lid of the hopper like a drum when I had mine. You can make it pretty workable.

>>18171478
Thanks fren

>>18174113
Depends on what you were using before but it makes good coffee I like it more than french press

>>18173961
Fag

is there a SINGLE brand of coffee that is actually good on amazon?

I have no faith in electric burr grinders, they cost hundreds of dollars and still have all plastic gear sets which grind themselves to bits.
Why shouldn't I use a normal ass cordless drill and a manual grinder instead? It still works out cheaper.

Wish I had some Turkish coffee. But, I'll settle for cuban-style.

>>18175145
Turkish coffee is garbage made out of leftover beans that no one wants to use. Why do you want something like that?

Pulled a dark roast shot on my Flair Pro 2 and despite how fast it pulled (~30s w/ 10s preinfusion) it still came out pretty bitter. Assumed the temp had something to do with it as I normally steam the brew chamber and try to get it as hot as possible. Didn’t steam it as much and lowered the ratio a bit and got a significantly less bitter shot. Still surprised how strong it tastes however. Is this typical for dark roasts? I usually drink medium-light roasts so this is a bit of a surprise. The shots have some of the nicest crema I’ve seen at least

I went and got an iced latte... it's so hot today...
But now I feel like a basic-ass white girl...

>>18175340
That one I made yesterday was so good I think I'll have another.
>>18175231
That's exactly how dark roasts are. Drop your temp to like 195.

>tfw found a comfy third wave shop only 5 minutes away that makes really good drinks and coffee cake/muffins/scones/etc.
>can't justify it because I have an espresso machine at home

>>18159971
Making a normal coffee when all you have is an espresso machine.
I don't care for it, I'd rather go with a french press, pour-over, or cold brew iced coffee

I've mixed the light single origin roasts (I don't like) with the dark blend roasts (I do like). It tastes real good. Probably no reason to get light roasts though in the future since they're just not my thing it seems

>>18175121
The only ones that are offer better deals buying it direct plus they'll roast right before sending it.

How much coffee do you guys go through per month?

>Tfw the coldbrew concentrate seeps into my brain.
>Become sleepier and more drowsy very quickly after.
>Want to read my book, but my brain is being molested by the contents of roasted seed extract.
It happens every time. I drink coffee or tea, and I breathe a bit better and become sleepy. My focus raises, but I still become sleepy (negating it), which is a strange, paradoxical feeling. I don't understand why my body reacts in this way to CNS stimulants. Anyone else? I just wanted to be comfy and read my book, lads...

>>18175655
Six pounds.

>>18175655
Six million pounds.

Just got some coffee. What do I think of it?

>>18175655
Pretty much exactly a 250g bag each week, so in a month a little over a kilo

>>18176086
Going with a standard coffee amount of 10.6 grams per standard cup, you'd have to brew around 6 cups per minute to go through 6 million pounds of beans in a month, the math simply doesn't add up, considering that the many machines you'll need have to undergo regular maintenance and will break from time to time, especially with those high loads. Also the logistics of it would be all fucked up, you'd have to get 8 and a half tons of beans delivered EVERY DAY. And even if it somehow worked, what would you do with all the used grounds?

What movie should I watch while my decaf pourover draws down? I was thinking The Godfather but I think that would be too short.

>>18176386
The full original LOTR trilogy while wearing a VR HMD and earphones so you're fully immersed in the experience, while simultaneously trying to avoid dripping hot decaf on your cock and balls.

I want coffee but it is 7pm
Is decaf substantially worse taste-wise?
My roaster sells decaf espresso beans

>>18176459
Not substantially, just pick out a good Netflix series to watch the whole way through while it brews

>>18176486
>just pick out a good Netflix series to watch the whole way through while it brews
this is for espresso

>>18176372
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

>>18176849
no.

>>18176518
Don't make espresso at home. That's silly.

>>18175584
Their equipment makes your equipment look like a little poopy pants baby and you'll have a much better quality of life just getting coffee from them. This is why home espresso is dumb.

>>18175655
2.2kg according to a rough calculation but I must be drinking more on the weekends than I realize because some months I go through 3kg.

>>18175121
Why would you even consider buying on Amazon when these are guaranteed to be mass market commercial beans with zero basic disclosures such as when they even roasted it? Unless you are looking for 17.4 week freshly rested beans I would not buy beans from anywhere that does not roast until you order them according to your specific roast instructions. Any good local roaster will do this.
Or just stop being a faggot and save 50% on coffee by roasting your own. It takes 12 mins to roast a 2 week supply of beans

>>18177033
How do you losers afford to have thousands and thousands of dollars in specialty equipment if you're time is worth less than the cost to have someone who roasts beans professionally roast them for you?

>>18175655
between half a pound and a pound.

>>18176962
>Their equipment makes your equipment look like a little poopy pants baby
The law of diminishing returns hits really hard for espresso, there's not much difference between a 600-1000 dollar consumer setup and a professional setup

>>18177123
In the industry they call people like you "a live one"

>>18177147
please enlighten me

Fresh Thyme just has giant plastic hoppers full of coffee beans of all sorts just waiting for you to pour some out yourself and purchase by weight for ten dollars a pound. Somehow I don't think this is sanitary, let alone of high quality.

>>18177054
>thousands and thousands of dollars in specialty equipment
lol

>>18175655
500g

Why do all my v60 brews look muddy?

>>18177455
Overswirled

Just got some new coffee

>>18173867
Just made another shot with my LP, grind still isn’t right so it came out quickly but it still tasted much more rich than my average Robot shot. What’s going on here? All I can think of is temperature. Possibly the basket quality?

>>18177054
Yesterday I enjoyed an iced latte while roasting to the sounds of a gentle afternoon rain storm. Absolutely perfect day. Then I get to reminisce about that perfect rainy summer day with every sip. Why would I pay someone to diminish my enjoyment?

>>18177713
Same 58mm on the La Pavoni?
And what do you mean exactly by better?
The temperature can obviously be playing some role, but I believe most people note that Robot is only usually 3-4c lower than traditional machines, which would only be making a noticeable difference with lighter roasts.
Another thought is inconsistency in pressure leading to less texture and body in the robot shot. While it is easy to hit 6-9 bars in the robot, the pressure fluctuates much more than a traditional system, due to human inconsistencies.

For reference, I have a 9bar and robot and always enjoy the 9bar shots more than robot, which I believe is mostly due to pressure related reasons

>>18177842
51mm post-mill La Pavoni. So the basket size is different, but I did some quick maffs and worked out the dose I should do for a consistent volume, which lets me keep a similar grind between the two. (15.3g dose for the LP, 18.5g dose for the Robot)
I also didn’t think temperature should be so important since I use medium-darker roasts, typically with robusta blended in. But, I do keep my LP grouphead around 98c during the brew while I know the Robot starts at around 93c and quickly drops from there.
Pressure is an interesting suggestion. I try pretty hard to keep my pressure stable on both, but you’re correct that it is easier to keep the LP pressure stable. Even relatively small variations there could be changing the flavour.

As for “better”, what I mean is that the espresso has more complex flavour, including a lot more lingering sweetness, while the Robot has more of a bitter aftertaste, and overall a more simple flavour profile.

>>18177474
I ended up creating a vortex with just one circle one way and one circle the other and my bed came up looking like a shiny rubber balloon. I did have the grind set to 34 though, which, not that this piece of plastic art deco crap would tell you, is too fine.

>>18171353
>>18171478
Thank you.

>>18157238
For me, it's vietnamese iced coffee

>>18171478
>Lance Hedrick
something about this guy seems off to me

>>18178660
I kinda miss this shit but fuck me I'm not gonna buy a super dark roast just for phin.
I can't replicate it with my moka pot & med roast.

Is there any place online to buy good coffee but on the cheap? Or maybe in large bags like 3-5lbs? Im a poorfag but I love my good coffee..

I’ve been brewing some sumatran dark roast coffee in my moka pot and shit comes out straight up undrinkable, it’s way too heavy and bitter; the only way to pass it up is making an americano out of it. I tried fixing the ratio and lowering the amount of water in the bottom chamber to avoid overextraction (currently at 200g of water per 25g of coffee) but it still comes out way too intense. Is there any way to fix it? Should I reduce the amount of coffee aswell? I’m starting to think this kind of very dark roast doesn’t go very well with the moka pot; unless I make a milk drink, or a very diluted americano out of it.

Just made some 20/80 water. What will I think of it?

>>18179503
>brew coffee known for being heavy and bitter
>its heavy and bitter
wow who could have seen that coming.

>lowering the amount of water in the bottom chamber to avoid overextraction
stupid bitch, dont lower the water level just stop the brew early.
dark roast is great with a moka pot if you actually know how to use a moka pot, clearly you dont.

watch these, practice the technique. come back next week and tell us how it went.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfDLoIvb0w4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-PeYeiqPLU
(^ignore when he talks about grinders)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-C7azYybhE

after copying both of their technique and then combining them and then creating my own style over the past 8 months has lead me to creating perfect brews every time.

also get a competition filter from E&B lab. if you dont you are literally cutting your legs off.

clean your moka pot after every brew and do a deep clean once every month.
use a high quality brand of kitchen paper towels and thoroughly wipe down everything, trust me even if it looks clean it isn't, it will still be covered in coffee oils.

>>18179590
Thanks mate, will try.

>>18179628
no problem.
i started my hobby of coffee brewing 8 months ago when i saw how a moka pot made coffee. and having struggled so much i try to lead others on the same path.
sorry for the rude language i half assumed it was a shitpost.

also something else you can do and i should have done while learning (and still should do but im a lazy bitch) is to write down notes of what you are doing, like measurements and taste notes so you can hopefully repeat parts of the process and narrow down where your are failing.

>>18157238
I just make my own with french press mostly. Just a bit of full fat cows milk in it. Occasionally I like a macchiato, cuban coffee, espresso or cafe con leche at a coffee shop or bakery.

nothing better than a nice cuppa black folgers

Colombia anaerobic honey just dropped and it smells and tastes like apple cider

I get the beans at trader Joe's and brew mine at home. I work at a coffee chain but their coffee tastes like ass. I grind my beans with the insides of a couple cracked green Cardamom pods then load it into my mr coffee. I like dark roasts usually, been getting the Bolivian blend lately . I prepare it with unfiltered Uruguayan honey, kerrygold butter melted into it along with a tiny bit of cinnamon and nutmeg .

>>18179090
He’s an enthusiastic consumer, not an enthusiast. His image drips with soi and onions.

>>18180755
He also rapes kids

>>18179628
Also try grinding a little coarser for darker roasts and stronger coffees. Darker roasts extract easier so you don’t need to go so fine.

>>18180755
>2x world latte art champion
>runs wholesale operations for onxy coffee lab
>won 2nd and 3rd in us brewers cup
>trained a few top 3 winners of us barista cup
enthusiastic consumer

>>18181181
Second place is just the first loser and latte art is for soibois who can’t appreciate real coffee.

>>18181181
>>2x world latte art champion

>>18181181
>2x world latte art champion
Holy fucking kek

>same two retards

Any of youse guys make muffins/scones/etc. to go with your coffee/espresso?
Made some coffeecake- it's good but it reminds me a lot of pound cake

I can't even think about pound cake after that last run in with Lance.

>>18168641
depends on how dark it is
very very light? try for 2 weeks
Medium? 1 week
Dark? Probably good to go already

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/momentem-dual-burr-coffee-hand-grinder/coming_soon
Bros GET READY

>>18170514
>16 week old perfectly rested beans
I'm 95% sure this is a joke but I'm scared about the 5% off-chance...

>>18182387
cheap

For iced coffee which is better:
cold brew
iced americano

>>18157238
Pink lemonade

>>18182971
Japanese iced coffee

>>18182979
>>A or B?
>C

redpill me on preinfusion for espresso

>>18183349
https://espressoaf.com/guides/profiling.html

>>18177054
its expensive but no more expensive that beer

>>18175655
one pound a week, just enough to make every weekly coffee service not enough fucking coffee.

>>18158315
rwanda in my experience has exported some of the best and some of the worst beans, pretty sure it's just roasting but I've had some gatare that was absolutely spectacular and then had some from the same region in rwanda that was roasted differently and was way too acidic

>buy 4 lb of yirgacheffe from online roaster
>forget to specify whole bean
>receive coffee ground for autodrip

>>18184581
just ungrind it

>>18184583
make me

I should go buy coffee beans
Current month's sale at the roaster is for chocolatey Ethiopian, not sure if I want

I drank some coffee today, it was good.
I’m going to drink some different coffee tomorrow.

I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna drive to the roaster and buy some coffee today

>>18184581

>buy drip bags
>pack them
>sell them
???
>profit

Whats the best sumatra I can get with EBT?

>>18185998
Got djimmah, a bit of yirgacheffe and a free taster of Sidamo, Nice goffee

>>18182971
>>18182977
>>18182979
>>18186025
Cafe Latte in a red cup is best

Just woke up, will drink coffee soon.

Just drank coffee

>>18187268
Not me.

Currently drinking coffee.

Coofie.

>>18161847
mcdonalds canada coffee is much better than tims

anyone here ever try Boyer's coffee?

>>18188081
yes, their specialty robusta is excellent

>>18188081
but on a serious note i can almost guarantee you this roaster is dog shit

Please don't judge me for going to Starbucks, it's just super convenient on my way to work.

I always order a short (8oz) cup of their light ("blonde") roast. Black. That's all the coffee I drink each day.

This morning they gave me a complimentary tall (12oz) filled to the top because they were out of the short cups. Per usually when I'm given a larger cup, it started tasting gross right around the point I was down to the last 4oz.

Can someone explain this? It's not just Starbucks, I also only want a small amount of even the best pour-over coffee from an independent shop. I love coffee... but not much of it. It just starts to taste unappealing (diminishing returns) after any more than a cup or so. Like I can drink it, but it's not pleasurable past that 8oz or so point. The thought of chugging cup after cup let alone 20oz in the morning, another 20oz in the afternoon sounds disgusting.

Please don't judge me for going to Starbucks, it's just super convenient on my way to work.

I always order a short (8oz) cup of their light ("blonde") roast. Black. That's all the coffee I drink each day, aside from maybe an espresso macchiato after work once in a while.

This morning they gave me a complimentary tall (12oz) filled to the top because they were out of the short cups. Per usual when I'm given a larger cup, it started tasting gross right around the point I was down to the last 4oz.

Can someone explain this? It's not just Starbucks, I also only want a small amount of even the finest pour-over coffee from an independent shop. I really love coffee, just not much of it. It just starts to taste unappealing (diminishing returns) after any more than a cup or so. I can easily drink a larger volume, but it's just not pleasurable past that point. The thought of chugging cup after cup, let alone guzzling 20oz in the morning, another 20oz in the afternoon sounds so uncouth to me.

>>18188005
Why does McDonald's US coffee make my car instantly smell like chemicals? Is it their shitty low-grade (plastic?) hot cups or some industrial chemical they use to clean the coffee machines? Threw out my last two coffees from there and I'm never going back.

>>18188152
I really like how they have light roast flavored blends and decafs and dark roast "specialty".

>>18188081
I've had his ravioli

>>18188081
in case you actually purchase from this roaster, you should try sweet bloom, middle state and huckleberry

>>18157238
Anyone have the Flair 58x? Just wondering how tedious the thermal management is without the electronics of the base model.

Just started drinking coffee. I know I hate the sour and watery kinds. I like the dark roast so far. Rec me a good dark roast with lots of flavor that isn't sour.

>>18188214
theres a lot going on here

the closer something is to our body temperature, the "better" we're able to taste it.

since you're accustomed to consuming a smaller cup, the larger cup likely took you longer to consume meaning the last 4oz was probably cooler than the last 4oz of the "short" cup you usually order. (don't reply to me about thermal mass, it's not enough to offset his slow consumption)

the cooler temperature of the bottom of the cup allows you taste the brew "better" meaning any imperfections are magnified, meaning you're more likely to dislike the flavor.

theres also the seperate issue that everyone has their own preferences of consumption. what i mean by this is i love steak. a good steak is amazing, but i would not like to eat two steaks back to back. you can only get so much of a good thing before it's not good anymore and that limit is different for everyone. your limit does not make you more sophisticated than someone who enjoys more.

also was it really neccessary to delete and add the macchiato part lol

>>18188452
sumatra

>>18188452
The roasted flavor of a bullet to your skull would suit you well

>>18188452
specialty robusta

i've been drinking coffee from march and been getting great cups

if you're sealing in vacuum bags in cool, dark places it kind of seems to me like the whole perfectly rested/stale meme is just a justification to waste good coffee

>>18188450
One of the best restaurants in the world uses an unplugged 58 preheated on a boiler. You'll probably be fine, but I'd just buy the 58 since you'll pay way more in the future buying the electric brew head separately.
https://youtu.be/LAzSCgwg7W8?t=1594

>>18188537
>the whole perfectly rested/stale meme
The meme is some guy was complaining Sey was selling coffee from last month at their cafe and I told him it was fine and lighter roasts are great for months since the oils aren't expressed and actively going rancid. This caused another bozo to freak out. If you're vaccing you're just extending that period much further.

>>18188698

The way they implemented the electronics seem cumbersome without too many benefits from all the videos I could find. Also in a 180 I was looking at the Argos from Odyssey Espresso, but they keeping pushing back their dates from completion and shipping.

>>18188698
>citing a restaurant for coffee
kek

>>18188750
I just set mine to high in the morning and leave it on all day. $20 switchbot and electrical tape and its fully automated on a timer. Hot when I wake up, turns off at 9pm. No issues. Lmk if you've got any questions.

When are coffee beans not “fresh” anymore?

>>18189493
whenever you personally dont like the taste of the coffee that those beans make.

>>18189549
What’s the average time it takes for them to go bad?

>>18189591
about two days

I had a bit too much coffee, I felt irritable and wired all day. Tomorrow I will drink less coffee.

>>18189591
i only grind the fruit that falls off the tree.
can't get fresher than that.

but for real i grind probably 2-3 weeks after roasting.

you did order your double burr grinder right bros????

>>18189706
WOW

>>18189716
>adjustable crank

>>18189726
yeah it's like they want you to have the BEST grinding experience possible

>>18189706
Judging by all of the marketing bloat and blue haired retard models advertising, I imagine this cost $20 to make and $120 to advertise each unit.
Double grinding is almost as fucking retarded as trying to sift the six gorrilian fines this thing is going to be shitting out
Here is your project team bros

>>18189760
This apparently can only fit 25g of beans too, so you can't even make 2 cups of coffee without remeasuring and grinding more

>>18189760
no its been proven that grinding coarse then grinding fine is the superior method AND it has a built in sifter. CHECKMATE CHUD
>this cost $20
lol no this is going to cost even more than they're selling it for ($400) because they're going to quickly find out why manufacturing in china is a nightmare.

>>18189780
$400 is the redditgogo price friend, they plan to actually charge $500 MSRP for this

>>18189786
Yeah but look at what you get for that!
>We might be new to product engineering
heh

>>18189760
>content writer
what the fuck does that mean? dont they just make grinders?
>coffee expert
>blue hair woman
lol, lmao.
>the only normal looking woman has a real job
classic.

>>18189760
The roster of Persona 6 looks cool

>We are looking for help to spread the word about our campaign. We’ve opened up a referral program that allows you to grab a unique referral link to share with your friends and family. You can earn 10% commission (about $40 USD) for any successful referrals that come through your link.
AH BROS IT'S TIME TO GET RICH

Woooooooooooooooooooh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-WkCN609w0

>>18189706
yeah my wug2 comes with 2 burrs

>>18188725
Holy cope

Not as good as my modded Ode

>>18190028
Technically then wouldn't that be a mOde?

>>18190171
we're !!!

kingrinder beats wug every time. Don't (You) me.

>>18190385
Agreed. Electric shit is for limpwristed cucks.

Is decaf espresso *that* different from normal espresso?
My roastery sells both, and I want to be able to drink some espresso at night...

>>18188214
The bitterness of black coffee overloads your tastebuds. Coffee is also highly acidic, so it may be a negative reaction from your mouth, teeth, and/or stomach.

>>18189610
Try drinking ice cold water instead. I bet you feel even better and more refreshed.

>>18190956
I would rather drink decaf espresso than decaf drip desu