/ck/ - Food & Cooking

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>>17987005
Drinking coffee is pretty elitist in general if you know how it's grown and how little the cartel controlled farmer are making from their cash crop.

>>17987032
not my problem

>>17987005
it's a white people thing

>>17987005
It's weirder to buy pre-ground beans, in my opinion.
I'm pretty fucking lazy, but even I'll take the time to grind beans every morning.

>>17987032
So what brand of coffee isn't evil?

I upsold myself into buying a $170 coffee grinder and I don't regret it

>>17987056
My grinder cost $3 at an amazon returns outlet and it grinds evenly on the finest settings, you wasted your money.

>>17987055
There's a simple reason why you're unable to google fairtrade coffee, plonker: https://www.fairtrade.net/product/coffee

>>17987055
the one the indians from Chiapas sell. you also get to annoy the mexican state and their cartel friends if you buy from them

instant coffee is good and if you disagree you are elitist

>>17987005
It's only elitist if you TELL people you grind your own coffee.

>>17987005
>Is it elitist to grind your own coffee beans?
why would it be? If you have the tools to do it and the desire to do it, why not?

Grinding your own coffee beans is literally white supremacy

>>17987688
enjoy your man boobs

Having functioning taste buds is literally white genocide

>>17987005
is it elitist to fuck your mom? i don't know, depends on the country you live in.

>>17987055
Tim Hortons

>>17987082

>>17987688
Based and Steve pilled

>>17987005
yes and that's a good thing

Well-read, uneducated, culturally aristocratic NEET here. I roast my own coffee and have a $250 hand grinder. My coffee is better than yours, wagie plebian.

>>17987830
Any good studies connecting phyto with actually changing estrogen levels? The many nip ones don't find a concrete agreement on it.

>>17987039
Based

>>17987005
I grind it right before I steep it in the press. It has a stronger aroma and flavor that way. The ground shit has lost a lot by the time it hits the water.

>>17988783
>There was an inverse association between soy food intake and sperm concentration that remained significant after accounting for age, abstinence time, body mass index, caffeine and alcohol intake and smoking. In the multivariate-adjusted analyses, men in the highest category of soy food intake had 41 million sperm/ml less than men who did not consume soy foods (95% confidence interval = -74, -8; P, trend = 0.02).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18650557

>Researchers at the Johns Hopkins Children's Center and the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health report that male rats whose mothers were fed diets containing genistein, a chemical found in soybeans, developed abnormal reproductive organs and experienced sexual dysfunction as adults.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/03/030311074418.htm

>Serum estradiol concentration was significantly inversely correlated with soy product intake (r = -soy, p = 0.009), and serum estrone concentration was nonsignificantly inversely correlated with onions product intake (r = -0.24, p = 0.05) after controlling for age, body mass index, smoking status, and ethanol intake.
>The data suggest that soy product intake may be associated with the endogenous hormone levels in Japanese men.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10798211

I mean you can find flaws with just about any study in the topic of nutrition because of how many variables there are, but there's enough evidence for me to not want to risk it.

>>17987005
Of course not. Electric grinders can cost $20 and take under 10 seconds to do their thing. And the flavor can be much more rich with whole beans. Try comparing what happens when you pour boiling water over whole and ground coffee. The former will have significantly more oils releasing and bubbling on the surface, which indicates its fresher and retains more... you know... coffee-ness.

>>17987055
FRINJ from California and nobody else

>>17987005
How the fuck could anyone call it elitist to prep your own ingredients?

Are you fags going to try and tell me it's pretentious to buy dry beans next? Or that it's snobby to cut and season my own raw meat? What the fuck is wrong with you all?

>>17988987
Grinding beans adds another 4 minutes to the brewing process and aint nobody got time for that

>>17988987
The process isn't elitists itself, it's more it's associated with elitists

>>17987005
no it's just the correct way to make it, pre-ground is for the lazy

>>17989230
The secret is to grind while you heat up the water ;)

even brewing coffee is elitist
for me? it's instant

>>17987005
Yes, but that's why you should do it. Strive to be elite, anon.

>>17987726
this is the true take

>>17988987
/ck/ is full of trolls who eat McD everyday instead of learning how to cook properly.
I wish that /ck/ has better quality threads on food like seriouseats but alas that is not the case,

>>17987830
You stupid nigger. It's that high becaus its a concntrated powder. But than you only use like 2g of it for a whole cup not the sam amount as ground coffee. Fucking mongoloid.

>>17987005
no, it's the normal way of making coffee
elitist would be to own 10 bags of different coffee varieties for different occasions and steeping methods

>>17989560
Phew. I only have seven different coffees right now. Just under the line.

not really. unless you bought some expensive vintage hand crank coffee grinder because you somehow think it makes it taste better, and you try to shame people who drink pre-ground or use an electric grinder.

>>17989545
>2g of instant for a cup of coffee
are you high? 6 grams is about 1 teaspoon. You would use around the same weight for both ground and instant. And even if you did only use one third the amount in weight, its phytoestrogen levels are 38x higher than instant and 100x higher than instant powder.

>>17989545
>2g of instant for a cup of coffee
are you high? 6 grams is about 1 teaspoon. You would use around the same weight for both ground and instant. And even if you did only use one third the amount in weight, instant phytoestrogen levels are 38x higher than ground, and instant powder is 100x higher.

>>17987005
no

>>17987005
>>17989270
>>17989387
Do you think that the actual elite would grind their own coffee beans? Obviously not, they have kitchen staff for that.

>>17989560
This guy elites.

If it's done because you need to then no. If it's done because you want too then yes.

>>17988987
We live in a day and age that working out is right winged and rooted in white supremacy.

>>17989560
What if I just have various lbs of shit around to drink when I get tired of what I've been drinking.