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/tea/
This thread is for discussing teas, tissanes, and other herbal infusions.
info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
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>> No.17951362
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17951362

>>17951349
why do arabs boil their tea for 15 minutes?

>> No.17951374

anyone got tips on growing your own tea leaves?

>> No.17951439

>>17951374
Yeah as long as you live in the right climate it's very easy.
Basically any zone where you don't have hard winters all the way to the equator will be easy to grow tea in.
Buy live bushes from someone who sells tea plants that are cuttings or seeds from commercial varietys.
I like these guys
https://camforest.com/collections/tea-camellias
Full sun to partial shade, most tea plants will reach a 10 x 10 bush after a decade or so so give them enough room.
The bigger starting plants you can get the better, will cut a year or two off the time till you can stsrt harvesting.
White and green teas are the easiest types to make, followed by black tea and then oolong is the most difficult. They are all made from the same tea types but use different processing methods.

>> No.17951443

>>17951439
oh shit didnt expect an answer this straightforward, thanks anon

>> No.17951444

>>17951362
Good question

>> No.17951476

Should I be reusing my leaves?

I'm usually just using fresh tea leaves for each brew. Am I going to get diminishing returns?

>> No.17951492

When's the best time of year to buy gyokuro?

>> No.17951529

>>17951476
yes reuse them, you can reuse it atleast 3 times before it starts getting weak doing western style, and 10-15 times doing gongfu

>> No.17951540

>>17951439
Im tempted to try to do a tea tree bonsai but it seems like a lot of effort for a 1 time thing and my climate is probably not fit for it (northern europe)

>> No.17951544

>>17951476
Yeah. I actually find the second brew to be better than the first.
I usually brew the same leaves 3 times before tossing them. But I don't let them sit for too long and do all 3 brews within 2 hours.

>> No.17951546

>>17951529
>gongfu
whats that?

>> No.17951620

>>17951546
Its a chinese way of making tea, instead of using few leaves and a long time in a big pot like western style, you use a lot of leaves in a small pot like a 100ml gaiwan and brew for a short time like 10 seconds.
It makes the tea taste better (kind of debatable), allows you to have more control over brewing parameters and you can tell more easily how the tea taste and smell changes over the infusions.
I think this video is really good to see how it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN0UMW5-I_o

>> No.17951642

>>17951620
this is a different kind of retarded

>> No.17951686

>>17951642
thats rude anon i just spent 3 minutes writing that for you

>> No.17951734

>>17951540
There are some small varietals of tea plant, you could keep one in a large pot like a fig tree and bring it inside over the winter. It would be a lot of work but you could do it.

>> No.17951774

How does /tea/ feel about herbal sodas? Or tea sodas? I make them and they're good.

>> No.17951784

>>17951774
How do you make them? Do you make a concentrated syrup and then dilute it into seltzer water?

>> No.17952462

>>17951476
I suspect the multiple steeps "western style" is marketing BS to make expensive tea seem a better value, or grooming you with pseudo-gongfu. Western style is dumping the tea leaf in the teapot then diluting to preferred strength. Or teabag full of fannings single infusion. None of this fractionating. If you're considering multiple infusions, steep it for longer instead.

>> No.17952501

>>17951784
More or less, yeah. I make a litre of soda at a time.
I use the South Indian "decoction" method of brewing IE brew something using far more tea/herbs/whatever and far less water than you'd use typically, sweeten it and store for future use. To serve, you mix the decoction with boiling water (or milk) and Bob's your uncle.
However, instead of using boiling anything, I just mix 340ml of decoction with two 340ml cans of fizzy.
Most recently, I made a honey, green tea and ginger. Prior, I've made hibiscus, apple-and-lavender, lemon-chamomile-and-one-thousand-flowers (idk what it's called in English, but it translates as "water of a thousand flowers;" I use a few drops in the decoction as that shit's STRONG), ginger-with-rose-and-pineapple and several others.

>> No.17952506

>>17952462
Many people brew western style too long. If you steep a tea western style for only around 2 minutes instead of the 3-5 usually recommended then you get at least a second steep after that (depending on the tea), and a more pleasantly flavored and less bitter brew each time

>> No.17952610

>>17951529
>>17951544
>>17952462

I see. I usually just dump them into a stir pot as I make it bulk. I'll try for my next brew but I think dehydrating the leaves a second time might be asking for trouble (like mold)

>> No.17952751

>>17952610
Tea leaves are pretty resistant to mold and bugs and whatever. The caffeine and tannins and antioxidants are meant to keep bad shit off it. Being a stimulant was a happy little accident. The boiling water pasteurizes it pretty thoroughly too.

>> No.17952787

What's the best clay per tea? From my research, it looks something like
>Green = Tokoname or Nosaka
>Light Oolong = Zhuni
>Dark Oolong = Zhuni
>Roasted Oolong = Purion
>Black = Zini
>Young Sheng = Jiangponi
>Aged Sheng = Zini
>Shen = Duanni or Luni

>> No.17952823

>>17952787
This is beyond autism

>> No.17952979

Thinking about ordering this from a literal who website in Sri Lanka that a duckduckgo search pointed me to:
https://ceylonteabrew.com/premium-loose-leaf/
Should I do it? Free untracked shipping, or $1.75 for tracking.

>> No.17952985

>>17952787
Check out mud and leaves blog, they lay it out pretty well for the chinese clays.

>> No.17952992

>>17952979
Its interesting, give it a shot if you want, just don't expect super high grade tea, it's all sort of grocery store grades of tea

>> No.17953087

Can I just leave my leaves in my gaiwan for later? I have a ton of tea coming for the first time and I don't know anything about saving leaves for later or if I even should after a few infusions.

>> No.17953097

>>17952992
It's cheap at $5.60 per 100g real cost shipped. I'm not expecting premium tea. Looking for good budget shit, possibly for blending. Only thing that gives me hesitation is the random Sri Lankan store no one has ever heard of. Dilmah's website seriously charges $19 for EMS shipping unless you order over $50.

>> No.17953128

>>17953087
People say a few hours is ok and I tend to agree, but really it’s all to taste and you should just experiment with your tolerances

>> No.17953136

>>17953087
That's fine. Mold is fairly unlikely with spent leaves in general. I've re-infused tea in my gaiwan that was left for over two, even three days without issue. I don't exactly recommend going nearly that long (may taste stale), but it's fine to leave it through the day or overnight, etc.

>> No.17953149

>>17953128
>>17953136
Thank you. I want to stretch out what I'll be getting because poorfag.

>> No.17953248

>>17953097
Give it a shot, it's not expensive, shipping might take ages but hey, won't know unless you try it

>> No.17953409
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17953409

Pulled the trigger. Did not pay $1.75 for tracking in order to make it more exciting leaving my fate in the hands of God and the dot heads. We'll see if the gamble pays off in 10-14 business days.

>> No.17953580

>>17952823
This is nothing. Wait until you find out about Factory 1/ROC/Qing pots.

>> No.17953684

>>17953409
Nice

>> No.17953699

>>17953580
I'm pretty sure i have a bunch of factory 1 catalog scans saved somewhere. Don't own any of them i would rather just by modern pots

>> No.17953735
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>He doesn't brew his biluochun the traditional way
>Legend tells of its discovery by a tea picker who ran out of space in her basket and put the tea between her breasts instead. The tea, warmed by her body heat, emitted a strong aroma that surprised the girl.

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>>17953735
Which of these lovely girls would you like to make tea for you?

>> No.17953781

>>17953764
Do I have to choose? Breasts are breasts aren't they?

>> No.17953817
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>>17953735
https://www.weirdasianews.com/2011/05/02/virgins-ccup-breasts-sought-tea-plantation/
>At the turn of the last century, some Chinese tea sellers experimented with the odd concept of “tea before breasts.” Sixteen-year-old virgins were asked to pick leaves under the darkness of night and stuff the leaves into their clothes between their breasts. The idea was that the leaves would absorb body scent, which would subsequently enhance the flavor of the tea.

>Part of the job description issued by the Henan Gushi Xijiuhua Scenic Mountain Development Co., Ltd involves the expectation that the girls retain the leaves in their mouths and spit them into a holder between their breasts before making tea out of them. The selling point is that the tea contains yin (feminine) qualities exemplified by virginity and clovage, as Archie Bunker used to say.

>Hired girls will be trained and paid 500-yuan ($US 76) daily. They will also be a part of the “Virgin Lips Tea” performance at a tea festival to be held until to May 18.

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>>17953817
>The selling point is that the tea contains yin (feminine) qualities
How do they make yang tea?

>> No.17953852
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>>17953820
The perineum in humans is the space between the anus and scrotum in the male

>> No.17953899

>>17953817
>Almost all the comments are broads bitching about virginity notes instead of people being curious and interested.
Like pottery.

>> No.17953910

>>17953817
>>17953820
>>17953852
I feel like if someone were to lather and shave my shoulders right now while serving me heated liquor, I would achieve nirvana.

>> No.17954076
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>>17952787

>> No.17954176

How heathen is it to sweeten tea with a small bit of honey, sugar, stevia etc? I enjoy my teas more with just a little bit of added sweetness in it, but I always feel a bit guilty about it. Tea bag normies at work also tend to side-eye me like it's some kind of blasphemy. Is it truly that evil?

>> No.17954204

>>17954176
conformity is for chumps.
regardless, I'm sure there's some puritan that would crucify you, but I think you should drink what you like.

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17955102

>started making trips all over china since the 24th last month
>literally did a forth and back
>last tracking updated shows up with a fat red exclamation mark saying it returned (TO WHERE?)
Am I particularly unlucky or does this happen occasionally? I even went for EMS, not ePacket. what the fuck?

>> No.17955144

does hot brewing extract any beneficial substances from tea that cold brewing wouldn't?

>> No.17955250

What are some good teas to drink as the weather gets warmer

>> No.17955389

>>17955250
Kooridashi gyokuro

>> No.17955405

>>17955144
Catechins and tannins

>> No.17955520

>>17955405
do i want those?

>> No.17955531

I bought my girlfriend a spearmint plant because she said she uses the leaves in her smoothies. Now the thing is huge and she doesn't use it often enough. Can I make tea with the leaves?

>> No.17955534

>>17955405
Wrong
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4648929/

>> No.17955547

>>17954176
Somedays I want a nice Chinese tea steeped in my gaiwan. Other days I'll just toss some generic black tea in a mug and call it a day. Sometimes I drink herbal tea with honey. I don't give a shit. I do think that more people should take the time to appreciate a good high quality tea though. Makes me hurt when people buy nice tea just to steep it like a Western tea and then add cream and sugar. Honestly I don't think you enjoy tea if you can't drink some of it just plain.

>> No.17955567

>>17955531
just prune it

>> No.17955779

I know you're supposed to drink a ton of water a day, but would tea count?
Say I drink a few pots of green tea, does that count as water? Is there too much caffeine?

>> No.17955784

>>17955779
>does that count as water?
yes
> Is there too much caffeine?
does it make you feel bad?

>> No.17955805

>>17955784
>does it make you feel bad?
I dunno, I don't think so. I drank a pot of black tea the other day and it just made me pee a lot. Green tea will probably be fine.

>> No.17955843

>>17951774
I sometimes brew tea in gin for marteani and shit is good

>> No.17955845
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Taking cuttings to grow hydroponically. Planning on getting a hardcore UVB supplemental light to really push the altitude of my light spectrum.

I'm too far gone boys. The rabbit hole has gotten me.

>> No.17955857

>>17955845
>no tea bf

>> No.17955867

>>17955845
>hydroponic tea
No SOVL. It must be from the mistiest, most mineral-rich mountaintop or I’m not drinking it

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>>17952979
>>17953409
Damn Anon, I was just coming to /ck/ to ask about Ceylon tea.
I'm buying pic rel (labeled as "Ratnapura Ceylon tea") from a local shop for 75€/kg, but the seller told me he pays 40€/kg to some German importer. I've been searching but couldn't find anything cheaper. Every shop in the pastebin from the OP that has Ceylon tea sells it for more than what I'm paying right now.
Please keep us informed about your experience. They sell AKBAR which is actually the tea that made me love Ceylon tea in the first place, so I might give it a try.

>> No.17955912

>>17955867
It's not for your filthy mongrol hands.

>> No.17956013

Do you think kooridashi brewing would work well with oolong?

>> No.17956025

>>17956013
no, and if you have to ask that you must be retarded

>> No.17956029

>>17956025
Call the short bus, I'm doing it right now.

>> No.17956067

>>17956025
>>17956013
Farmers in rural Taiwan do something similar. They pack a jug with ice and leaves so that it's melted by the time they get to the field.

>> No.17956071

>>17955531
You sure can

>> No.17956124

>>17951642
Most of China uses that style, it can't be that bad.

>> No.17956139

>>17956124
it might be customary desu, which on its own isn't less legitimate
but if you're just after optimal extraction, i don't see why you would bother with it

>> No.17956145

>>17956124
grampa style or fuck off

>> No.17956172

>>17956145
Based, i drink nothing but grampa style months at a time when i get lazy, it really helps to get a different perspective on teas.

>> No.17956235

>not putting the leaves on your tongue and then dumping hot water into your mouth

>> No.17956245
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Tea is delicious, if you fuck up brewing it you have brain problems. Cold brew, western, granpa, gongfu, it's all good. I've brewed the longjing I have about as many ways as I could think of since I got it in, and since you people are being annoying about muh tea brewing methods, I'll throw it in an aeropress after this.

>> No.17956344

>>17956245
>I'll throw it in an aeropress after this.
Enjoy your bpa

>> No.17956448
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17956448

You VILL drink zee bug bitten oolong
And you VILL enjoy the delicious honey flavor

>> No.17956512

>>17956448
They wash the tea off before processing it...... right?

>> No.17956527

>>17956512
>>China
>>Hygine
Pick One

>> No.17956574

>>17956512
Nobody, and i mean nobody anywhere in the world at any tea farm washes leaves before processing. It's just not possibewith current processing technology it would ruin the resulting tea

>> No.17956598

>>17956448
Fuck I am a newbie and picked up some of that this weekend. It's not awful I guess but I don't know how to brew it.

I'm just trying to quit drinking monster everyday and get healthy. Can anyone help? Any tips? I'm sorry.

>> No.17956617

>>17956598
Why did you decide to buy a highly specific oolong tea before any other more common tea?

>> No.17956642

>>17956617
because he's not a half-stepping faggot, he goes all in from the start.

>> No.17956655

>>17956598
>Fuck I am a newbie and picked up some of that this weekend. It's not awful I guess but I don't know how to brew it.
It's easy to brew anon, very good tea
Measue out about 4 grams (a tablesppon full) brew it for 4 minutes in a large mug, use 80°c water (bring water to boil, let stand for 7 minutes then it dhould be the right temp)
If should be a very aromatic tea with sweetness and a nice feeling on the tongue.
Once you get the brewing right it will be very good.
>>17956617
It's oolong, it's not some magical mystical tea that's hard to drink or something

>> No.17956669

>>17956527
>Taiwan
>china
>>17956448
anyone got a good source for eastern beauty?

>> No.17956683

>>17956669
>>China
>>China

>> No.17956686

>>17956683
>he buys chinese tea from china instead directly from the source
ngmi

>> No.17956735

>>17956617
Idk I was really sick and figured it would be better than normal walmart tea.

>>17956642
Kek appreciate that

>>17956655
Thanks man! Do you guys add honey?

>> No.17956751

>>17956735
>Thanks man! Do you guys add honey?
You can if you want, i usually dont. But honey is for sure the best choice for sweetner
Come back and ask more questions if you are still having trouble

>> No.17956794

>>17955903
That's a pretty fair price for what looks like a flowery grade tea, even at retail. What I ordered is only BOP grade so I was imagining bulk buying tippy Assam from Vahdam and blending the two.

>> No.17956972

Bought the dubious loose leaf rose green tea from the Asian market because it came in a cute airtight jar

>> No.17957062
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>>17951349
I have zero need for this, since I have a severe over abundance of tea. This code is for $10 free dollars at verdant tea. It doesn't give any restrictions, and im assuming I got it since I used to order there a lot. I know verdant has a mixed reputation, but I've heard their herbals are good. I'd try them, but I just don't need more shit. Whoever redeems it, show me what you got and if you enjoyed it.

10CCHYGY8LD

>inb4 shill
I literally have a trash bag full of teas and a few puer cakes. Also have all the teawear I need.

>> No.17957095

>>17956735
I love honey

>> No.17957473

>>17957062
based, got myself a gongfu pitcher ;^)
may your tea be tasty my friend

>> No.17957478

>>17957473
I also got a small amount of que she oolong to see how the tea is. Will update when the time comes

>> No.17957816
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Contrary to conventional wisdom, teabags don't infuse faster because they're full of fannings and dust with all that extra surface area. The opposite is actually true; larger leaf inside bags infuses more efficiently. Reason being the solubles have to be carried away from the leaf, which happens by convection currents. Densely compact small leaf restricts flow. Only outside a bag does the small leaf infuse faster. So the reason teabags taste like musty poowater is you're only getting the most superficial extraction.

I noticed my teabags taste much better when I tear them open, shake the dust off, brew it loose in the pot, then pour it through a coffee filter. I assumed it was because of the dust, but maybe it was the extra space. The next thing I'm experimenting with is continually swirling the cup while a teabag steeps. Allegedly, it should mostly overcome the disadvantage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaDlWYbQjPQ
https://myperfectteapot.weebly.com/uploads/2/4/5/1/24513829/factors_affecting_the_caffeine_and_polyphenol_contents_of_black_and_green_tea_infusions.pdf

>> No.17957931

>>17957816
Man you are really getting into teabags, but is it worth the effort? Why not just focus on looseleaf?

>> No.17958037

>>17957931
More relevant for poorfags, the lazy or anyone who isn't into tea ceremony. Old habits die hard. I mostly have loose leaf personally. I'm thinking of writing the most comprehensive and autistic western style brewing guide and the unfortunate fact is teabags are the reality in the west so it doesn't do much good to ignore them.

>> No.17958284

>>17951362
I boil my tea for 30mins-an hour in order to max out the effects

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So, now that prices of everything are skyrocketing, how long can I store tea before it goes bad? I was thinking of taking enough for 10 years or so.

>> No.17958803

>>17958037
>I'm thinking of writing the most comprehensive and autistic western style brewing guide and the unfortunate fact is teabags are the reality in the west so it doesn't do much good to ignore them.
Well if you put it that way its a nobile endeavor, godspeed anon

>> No.17958818

>>17958392
If stored in sealed mylar bags in a cool dry place black tea will keep for a very long time. In fact there are people that actually buy aged black tea as if it were puer or some other more typically aged tea. So in theory if you like the taste of old tea you cound store it indefinitely. At least 4-5 years before black tea would taste much different. I wouldn't suggest going out and buying 10 kilos of the cheapest tea you can find. But if there is something you know you like it wouldn't hurt to grab some of it

>> No.17958875

>>17958818
Thanks. I've been drinking the same tea for 10 years now so I'll try to stockpile some for the near future.

>> No.17960151

Is tea good for you?

>> No.17960428

>>17960151
No. I haven't aged in 100 years and I've outlived all my loved ones.

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17960450

>>17951349
>Moroccan Mint
Beetus , the drink.

>> No.17960456

I got my gaiwan and I don't know if I should get a glass teapot with the infuser/strainer. I feel like I'll want that instead of gongfu at times. I also tell myself I'll get a clay pot one day, but I know I'll have to shill out over a hundred bucks for one that isn't random Amazon seller quality.

>> No.17960469

>>17960450
Is that a comically large lump of sugar?

>> No.17960481

>>17960456
Your best bet for clay is mud and leaves or purple cloud tea house. I have one from essence of tea that was a hair cheaper but it has a single hold filter that clogs occasionally.
Just get a cheap 2 cup size English style teapot and use that for western style brewing when you don't feel like doing gongfu

>> No.17960523

>>17951620
>>17952462
>>17952506
This. Western tea is just a more hardy tea originally so it can survive the trip without spoiling. Reusing is just being cheap. The big pot is just because westerners couldn't be arsed about making multiple pots like Arabs and Asians insist (they don't drink less tea). This is all especially true of britain.

70% of coffee consumed in britain is instant coffee - are you REALLY going to trust a single thing they do for the preparation of any drink?!

>> No.17960535

>>17960523
yeah, i mean fuck the belgians and swiss for what they did to cocoa.

>> No.17960539

>>17957473
>>17957478
That sounds cool. Kinda a nutty floral fruity oolong. Also holy shit they offer way more tea than they used to. I can't wait to see the pitcher you got.

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>>17960469
Yep. They like to use a hammer to break it and fit huge chunks into the tea pot.

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Here's a sugar shop.

>> No.17960595

>>17960545
Amazing

>> No.17960602

>>17960548
re their different types of sugar at a shop like that or just different size pieces? Is it cane sugar or something else?

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>> No.17960680

>>17960670
Some say he used to sweeten the tea with ketchup

>> No.17960822

>>17960481
Is it ok to use black tea in one? Or even a ripe puerh?

>> No.17960828

>>17960822
Black tea, probably okay, ripe puerh i wouldn't use it in the same pot, it's gonna soak up that ripe funk.
I use raw puer, and oolongs in the same pot, but that's most of what i drink, i just put the ripe and the other fermented stuff in a gaiwan or a porcelain pot
I don't think you need 12 different pots one for each type of tea like the teapot merchants say but you should at least have a pot for skanky shit and a pot for everything that isint skanky.

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>>17957816
back in the late 90's pg tips (i think) had adverts with pyramid shaped 3d bags and sell the point that more area gives better tea, but i guess they were too expensive to make because you hardly see them anymore.

when i brew western style i still use my gaiwan and a chinese fine mesh strainer, they're better than those still large holed infusers. pic related, tea hairs from the leaf buds

>> No.17960871

>>17960469
thats how it used to be sold, there's a mountain near me called the sugar loaf because well it looks like a mound of sugar

>> No.17960879

>>17960523
>are you REALLY going to trust a single thing they do for the preparation of any drink?!
its really sad that my country has the attitude that 'good enough' is good enough and its applied to fucking everything, do the bare minimum because fuck it

>> No.17960976

>>17960861
Pg tips still uses pyramid bags

>> No.17960983
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>>17960861
There was a court case disputing this commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWQtX0-9aZ0
Ruled in their favor.

I've gotta get one of those strainers. Mine is a regular one that lets particles through. If you ate that hairball you'd probably get tea drunk

>> No.17960986

test

>> No.17960989

>>17960539
The layout was interesting with how it’s organized by farmer/vendor. Maybe it takes some experimenting to figure out which of their sourcing is higher quality

>> No.17961063

i cant stand cocoa/malty black teas anymore. i used to like them but i'd rather drink a fruity black tea or puer if i want the bitterness now

>> No.17961090

>>17961063
Yeah I'm not big on malty tea either. It's actually one of the things that kept me away from good tea for years because i thought it was all as malty as black teabags

>> No.17961107

>>17961063
I hope I like cocoa/malty teas. I ordered a bunch of black teas that were all supposedly to have that taste.

>> No.17961136

>>17961107
They will be good, don't worry anon.

>> No.17961211

>>17961107
they're nice just not for me, i still like them on occasion but the cocoa nib bitterness dosent speak to me like the dirt ripe puer bitterness does. its still my favorite tea to bring when camping or backpacking though for some reason

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Anyone else see a color difference? It doesn't come out well in a photo but one looked a bit murky and less transparent maybe.

>> No.17961421

>>17961406
Yeah left is less transparent, maybe, it could just be the lighting. It also looks like its a hair darker

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>>17961421
The color's more apparent in a split. But it's so subtle I couldn't tell the difference inside a mug, hence why it's in a shallow bowl.

Testing stirring teabags while steeping.

>> No.17961536

>>17961463
That's really surprising, i would expect agitation to increase cloudyness and not reduce it.

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For the record, the difference loose leaf brewing makes for ANY tea is stark and we're entirely justified in taking the effort
>>17961536
jpeg compression disguises the sediment that came out of the stirred bag. So it's clearer despite the dust.

>> No.17961843

>>17961578
Wild, are you getting noticeable differences in flavor? Do you think you could identify stirred vs not in a blind test?

>> No.17962015
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I'm looking for a low profile zhuni pot around ~120 ml. Is Mud and Leaves still the best place to look?

>> No.17962053

What tea doesnt taste like expensive fucking water. Or do you just spend money on tea leaves and pretend it tastes good?
Why does Milk Oolong smell fucking amazing but taste like water? What are you supposed to add to teas?

HOW DO YOU FAGGOTS STOMACH THIS SHIT

>> No.17962098 [DELETED] 

milk in tea is atrocious
milk in coffee is a crime against humanity
pure tea/coffee is all i need

>> No.17962120

>>17962015
Yeah, or purple cloud tea house if you are in the US, specifically the pots they have that are made by the same studio that mud and leaves carries (Lin Hanpeng and Chen Chunhong Studio.)
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/yixing-pottery/products/zhuni-shuiping-yixing-teapot-120ml
Or essence of tea if you don't mind the single hole filters, they do clog occasionally and you will need to keep a bamboo skewer around to poke down to spout to clear obstructions.

>> No.17962132

>>17962053
A lot of leaves and less water

>> No.17962152

>>17962120
Not that anon, but what exactly does a clay pot do for tea?

>> No.17962162

How do I tell good tea from bad tea?

>> No.17962174 [DELETED] 

does steeping your tea for a longer period actual bring out more tannins making the tea bitter?

>> No.17962199

>>17961843
I'm still not sure it's worth the effort. It was close. Tomorrow I'll try again except blind.

>> No.17962251

>>17962162
Try two different grades of the same tea side by side. Between different teas it’s hard to say what makes a tea good or bad besides your own taste, but trying something like a standard green tea against a superior grade longjing can be eye-opening

>> No.17962564

>>17956013
>>17956029
The results were interesting. I used a sweet Taiwanese oolong for this experiment. The iced brew was less sweet than a hot infusion, but had a stronger and more complex floral aroma. I then heated up some water and brewed it normally a few times. The sweetness appeared in an even more intense form, almost excessively so the first time. After that, it mellowed out and had a pleasant molasses taste and scent.
TL;DR: It's worth trying once but the normal way is better

>> No.17963089

>>17962174
Yeah, those meme antioxidants EGCG and ECG are bitter

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>>17962162
>How do I tell good tea from bad tea?
sames as good wine vs bad wine
if you like it, it's good

>> No.17963730

what are some teas to drink to experience "flavourless flavour"?

>> No.17963865

>>17963730
what's that

>> No.17964094
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>>17963730
>>17963865
damn it seems it was just some gay tea related metaphor for the taoist principle 'to accomplish something without doing anything', chapter 63 of Tao Te Ching:
https://www.bu.edu/religion/files/pdf/Tao_Teh_Ching_Translations.pdf
Still though on the tea flavor chart if you look on the top it says tastelessness and water, what tea is this describing?

>> No.17964209

>>17964094
When you infuse it too many times and the flavor disappears.

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>>17936220 here. I hit up both tea shops, and got this picture of the less good of the two teas. The only information I was able to get about the other, better tea was that it was somewhat shaded and lightly steamed. Like I said though, the salesmen seemed pretty clueless in general.

>> No.17964424

>>17963730
>>17964094
Brew tea, then distill it and drink the water.

>> No.17964504

>>17964424
Speaking of distilled, can I just use spring water like from Walmart for my teas?

>> No.17964544

>>17964504
If it's spring water, it's unlikely to be distilled. I'm not a water snob, but spring water seems popular with those people. distilled water certainly works, but I've heard people say that it makes for relatively bland tea compared to water with minerals and such.

>> No.17964560

>>17964544
That's what I've heard too. I have well water and keep distilled water for my flytraps, so I can try all three at one point. I don't want my first loose leaf tea to be ruined because I fell for a meme.

>> No.17964581

>>17964560
I reckon it'll turn out alright no matter which of those types of water you use, but you'll learn that your first time brewing any individual tea will probably be ruined, or at least disappointing. Each tea is unique, and it'll take you five or ten brewings to learn its peculiarities and figure out how to steep it suitably. One of my first loose leaf teas was a particularly tricky one, and I didn't manage to make it enjoyable for almost a year.

>> No.17964617

>>17962152
>what exactly does a clay pot do for tea?
Some specific kinds of Chinese clay clange the flavors of tea slightly (mostly by muting certain aspects of the flavor)
Don't worry about clay unless you want to start a second hobby of collecting clay pots, you aren't missing some massive revelation in tea enjoyment

>> No.17965259

>>17964560
If your tap water isint hard its usually good enough on its own. If it is hard some kind of filtration is ideal but distilled or reverse osmosis water is too free of minerals

>> No.17965305

>>17964560
You can always add more minerals (pri!arily epsom salt and baking soda) to your distilled or filtered water to get the taste right. Make a concentrate with the excel linked here https://coffeeadastra.com/2019/08/23/a-tool-and-videos-for-crafting-custom-brew-water

>> No.17965771

>>17965305
God i love that people are actually doinh this

>> No.17966075

How uncouth is it to boil loose leaf tea inside an electric kettle with no infuser?

>> No.17966203

>>17966075
Depends on why your are boiling tea.
Its probably not an issue but you might have to wash the kettle more frequently.
Why are you boiling tea?

>> No.17966259

>>17966203
>Why are you boiling tea?
To drink it? I didn't know there was an alternative to boiling. The tea I'm drinking is Da Hong Pao, by the way.

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Has anyone tried this Ajiri tea? It's become one of my favourite black teas recently.

>> No.17966697

>>17966259
Oh boiling dark roasted oolong is based, carry on

>> No.17967189

>>17966259
wtf are you talking about? Boiling tea is a very rare procedure and only suitable with some teas. There's a massive difference between using water that has just been boiled to boiling the tea with it, boiling is a massive chemical reaction.

https://www.teavivre.com/info/what-tea-are-suitable-for-boiling.html

>> No.17967229

>>17967189
Im assuming it was an ESL issue and he meant brewing in the kettle. But some people do boil those roasted oolongs so i guess it could go either way.

>> No.17967448

>>17967189
If you boil green tea in cast iron, it will rapidly oxidize. It tastes disgusting but in a unique way.

>> No.17967486

>>17962053
You are doing something wrong

>> No.17967539
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Do we talk kombucha in these threads?
Just made a batch that I am a bit dubious about. Taste is a bit off. Might just be a little over fermented.
Scooby is lookin a bit funny as well though. Slight discolored patch on the top. A little grayish Brownish patch. What do you guys think? (Patch looks a bit darker in the photos)

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>>17967539

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>>17967544
Scooby otherwise looks good. Growing a baby Scooby on the bottom

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>>17967539
we only talk about kombu cha (seaweed tea)

>> No.17967675

>>17967539
I'll be frank, it looks like cum on top.

>> No.17967695

>>17951349
>>17951362
Bit of a blog here but:
Live in euro and have a house in Morocco. Spend two months there each year. In my family which is super big. Im seen as the mint tea guy. My grandparents will not drink anyone elses tea when im around.

>Why do Arabs boil their tea for 15minutes
Idk why but it's definatly an experience. Im from the north so never done that here. But in Sahara tea is almost like a scotch or whiskey lol

Tip&tricks
>When your tea is starting to boil turn of the heat immediately and put mint leaves in. That way the tea and mint don't taste beland
>Serve in a tall glass with a mint twig of in a small almost shot glass.
>Do not overuse the sugar. If u don't overcook the tea no need to balance bitterness
>Look into different types of mints. Smaller and harder leaves are usually the best for mint tea

>> No.17968015

>>17967539
I dont mind since the fermentation general is never up, i think the guy who was making them gave up on it

>> No.17968030

So i fucked up and didn't properly store my tokoname teapot; there were some leaves stuck in the filter. When i took it out today i noticed the leaves had some white spots on them. I didn't notice any apparent mold spots on the clay itself, only on the leaves. What should i do?

>> No.17968093

>>17968030
Put some boiling water through it a few times.
DISCLAIMER: This information is not presented by a medical practitioner and is for educational and informational purposes only. This statement has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.

>> No.17968116

>>17968030
>>17968093
DICLAIMER: Boiled water is known to the State of California to cause cancer.

>> No.17968181

>>17951362
Tastelet filtered.

>> No.17968202

>>17968093
>>17968116
Thanks guys, it released mustard gas.

>> No.17968427

>>17951362
>>17968181
They do not boil their tea for 15 minutes as standard. More like the western way of making tea is a hamfisted approach to how most arabs and asians brew it.

>> No.17968740

Are the huangpian cakes from white2tea any good? Wanna try a huangpian only cake since they seem pretty interesting

>> No.17968849

>>17967539
>kombucha
I've lived in Japan for 14 years and have drank konbucha many times, I go back to US one time and see this shit in the shelves and immediately am extremely confused, because konbucha is just "tea" by steeping konbu.
This makes no fucking sense to me at all how fucking retarded gaijins even made this stupid reddit concoction and somehow misnamed it so incorrectly.

>> No.17969139

>>17968849
>everywhere in the world but japan refers to post brew fermented tea as the same thing
>god damn bakagaijins don't even know what they're talking about

>> No.17969141

>>17968849
its a mistranslation. seaweed tea =/= fermented tea and its been around for decades before reddit. no different that chai tea(spiced tea) in the west meaning tea tea instead of the correct masala(spiced) chai(tea)

>> No.17969146

>>17969141
How do you translate it? I remember the first time I got my hands on that seaweed tea you mention. That sun setting on my houseboat as my robes came off and I was taken by the other boys on the ship.

>> No.17969148

>>17968740
all the huangpian i've had have been very weak almost flavourless, thats why the farmers drink them because the larger leaf couldn't be sold so it was kept from themselves

>> No.17969158

>>17969146
fuck if i know, apparently its chinese in origin not japanese and wiki seems to think the mistranslations comes from the scooby looking like seaweed

>> No.17969177

>>17969158
>wiki seems to think the mistranslations comes from the scooby looking like seaweed
In reality what happened was the chinese tea producers didn't give a two shits about what the small island morons were calling things.

>> No.17969191

>>17967539
Big fan of kombucha, that scoby does look a bit weird, but nothing concerning. When they really go moldy their will be visible whisps of mold on the top of the liquid, so if you dont have that it's probably fine. Anyway drink it cautiously at first. When you start the next batch toss a few tablespoons of white vinegar in at the beginning, the vinegar will help acidify it and that will make it less hospitable for things you don't want growing in there while the fermentation gets rolling.

>> No.17969192

>>17969158
You ever taken a shower with your clothes on?

>> No.17969197

>>17967695
Nice thanks for sharing anon, it's good to know that the boiling tea part is more of a regional practice.

>> No.17969255

I mean we call red tea "black tea".

>> No.17969294
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Now tell me again tea isn't for gays

>> No.17969306 [DELETED] 

>>17969294
1 man 1 glass jar for us please
unfortunate desigm

>> No.17969333

>>17969255
that makes some sense though, the leaves are black just as green tea leaves are green. Chinese go by liquid colour and we by leaf colour

>> No.17969352

>>17969294
I don't know what you'd even need this for, you have a natural purpose grown whisk holder on you at all times (penis.)

>> No.17969361

>>17955845
what tea?

>> No.17969366

>>17969333
If the chinese actually went by liquid colour, they'd call green tea "yellow".

>> No.17969370

>>17955867
From ashes to ashes, water to water.

>> No.17969389

>>17969366
i've had green green tea and whites are more yellow, maybe in the olden days black tea was less oxidised, sometimes by black look redish after being brewed

>> No.17969399

>>17968849
You're insufferable

>> No.17969497 [DELETED] 

>>17969399
i would say cultured
have (you) lived in another country before?

>> No.17969538

>>17969294
Looks like a lilydrip.

>> No.17969562

>>17969294
cool butt plug

>> No.17969729

What tea has the biggest difference between western style vs gongfu? I'd say Longjing.

>> No.17969776 [DELETED] 

imo gongfu is all show
especially with the squirting pet

just hot water + tea leaves = good enough for me

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long time no see /tea/, how's it going? I moved to a new place and i am happy to find that the water here is good. the water at my last place was also good i was just worried that i would end up with super hard water or something after moving. here at my new place its actually the opposite, the water is much softer than i am used to. i feel like i had to adjust my brewing ratios and times slightly to compensate. not sure whether my new water is better or not but it does make good tea. today am sipping on some semi aged (2007) mystery brand mengku area sheng that's pretty good. its nice to have some time to sit down and sip tea again.

>> No.17969788

>>17969729
I would say dragonswell is a good candidate.
My vote is for young raw puer, something like Lao Man E, or other strongly bitter puers would be pretty hard to stomach western style but are delicious whith short gongfu brews.

>> No.17969817

>>17969776
this.
it's all just hot leaf water

>> No.17969827

>>17969817
Reddit

>> No.17969871

>>17969497
Yeah and I couldn't give two fucks about the pedantic bullshit you seem to care about

>> No.17969879

>>17969787
Whats up anon? Moving sucks ass but its nice when you finally get settled in and your stress levels go back down a bitI really should get some more mengku, i bought a brick from mengku tf a few years ago and it was fantastic. Tasted like a much better 7542 with really prominent plum.
Nice that your water is good. Im dealing with painfully hard water here. At least its from an aquifer and not treated sewer water.

>> No.17969937

Why do people recommend activated charcoal filters if you have chlorinated water? Why not just boil it off?

>> No.17969950 [DELETED] 

>>17969937
making tea is all about being extra
"i use only spring water" "my tea comes only touch by chinese hands besides my own" etc

>> No.17969969

>>17969937
Boil this, faggot

>> No.17970113

>>17969879
Moving wasn't even close to the worst of it. The whole last month of my school year was brutal. They really put us through the ringer.

It's been interesting having lived in 3 different places in the last several years seeing how the water affects tea. The first place has hard unfiltered water that was not great but it did not stop me from getting into tea. Lots of tea scum and i had to descale my kettle often. The second place had semi-soft "normal" water and i added a good single stage under sink water filter. I thought the water at the second place was a big improvement. I only descaled my kettle once while there. My new place has what i am pretty sure is objectively soft water (and possibly slightly acidic but that's just a guess) to the point where it almost tastes a bit off to me when plain. I put in a water filter here as well and i am quite happy with the result.

Plumy is not a bad descriptor for the mengku tea i had today.
no-name brand 2007 dry stored mengku sheng tasting notes:
The tea leaves are mostly whole, moderate sized, and of good apparent quality. Both leaves and liquor are orangish as would be expected for its age. The tea tastes pleasantly tart, crab apple, lightly leathery or "tobacco", some sort of hard to describe spicy herbaceousness that is not particularly "green" or vegetal, moderate astringency and bitterness, well balanced it's both flavorful without being overwhelming or harsh, i am sure you could age it further but it does not in any way need it.
I would have given the tea a causal recommendation because it is good and was quite cheap (less than $30/bing) but it is long sold out. I forget where i got it from but i know i bought the last cake when i got it.

>> No.17970157

>>17970113
> The tea tastes pleasantly tart, crab apple, lightly leathery or "tobacco", some sort of hard to describe spicy herbaceousness that is not particularly "green" or vegetal, moderate astringency and bitterness, well balanced
Yep that's a pretty solid result for an affordable bing. Good find anon.

>> No.17970266

>>17957816
Might be worth reading about coffee if this a surprise to you. Grind size affects extraction, but contact with the brew water is most important. That's why channeling leads to weak espresso, pourover is weaker (generally less extracted) by volume all else being equal, because not all of the brew water is in contact with the coffee, compared to an immersion brewer like a french press.

If you're looking for easily replicable experiments that's where I'd go first, I'd be surprised if there's a lot of serious work done on teabags.

>> No.17970281

>>17969787
Cool stuff, my water is pretty garbage and I haven't really settled on a way to fix it. Stuff is just rattling around in my head, nothing really seems perfect yet.

>>17970113
>The whole last month of my school year was brutal.
Yup, now I'm stuck in summer class tedium.
Plum is always a nice surprise when it shows up, I've had decent luck buying random bings recently. I'll probably always have a 20-40 dollar cake in the house or on the way from now on.

>> No.17970484

Is it disrespectful to the tea and the cultivars to add vanilla extract?

>> No.17970652

>>17970484
I've seen a couple stores make blends that use vanilla. They didn't say if it was extract or powder or what. Extract is wet, though, it might ruin your tea if you added it directly to the dry leaf.
https://www.mariagefreres.com/UK/1-vanilla_tea.html
https://www.harney.com/collections/flavored-black-tea/products/vanilla-black

>> No.17970674

>>17970484
It's very disrespectful to the tea to do anything more than chew the leaves

>> No.17970740
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Do I need to worry about storing multiple raw puer cakes together? Will the aromas blend together and become samey if I do that? I'd like to keep the individual characteristics of the teas I have.

>> No.17970744

>>17969937
It might be chloramine which is used because it's less volatile.
https://www.epa.gov/dwreginfo/chloramines-drinking-water

>> No.17970764

>>17970740
Probably. Just keep each kind in a separate zip-lock.

>> No.17970872

>>17970740
I keep all kinds of stuff in my pumiodor, it's fine as long as you don't put in any scented tea or anything like that. I do keep everything i. Separate plastic bags just to keep the crumbs under control but i wouldn't worry beyond that.

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>>17951349
Tell me what your favorite tea is. These are mine at the moment.
My brother ordered some green tea from Japan, it tasted like absolute garbage

>> No.17971212

>>17970945
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but your brother is probably a weeaboo. I'm sorry.
As for me, any Earl Grey is nice.

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>>17970945
I have been enjoying pic related recently
XiaGuan Fu Lu Shou Xi

>> No.17971893

>>17962199
Teabag autism update: did a blind challenge two days now with PG Tips 4 minute steeps. Stirring makes a noticeable taste difference. It's much more bitter without milk. Unstirred wins in taste 5 out of 5 trials.
With milk it's closer. Stirred won 2 out of 3. Slightly maltier versus slightly watery. The exception was when I got lazy and didn't bother sipping water in between.
The color difference really stands out with milk added. Stirring gives it a bronze hue, unstirred is more red.
>>17970266
I used to do pour over so I read nerd shit about that too. Getting a gooseneck kettle made a big difference probably for similar reasons.

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Does aging sheng puerh change its astringency?

>> No.17973119

>>17960989
Sorry for the late reply. I used to buy from them way back in the day; before they had their tea bar. They kinda evolved from offering a few of the best with focus on flavor, not grades and mostly worked with the He family. They evolved into a from farm to table, and forming longer recurring partnerships with some producers. Kinda like Yunomi, but more parterned than just offering a platform.

I've enjoyed most of their teas. Only thing I noticed back in the day the first time they unveiled a tea it was amazing, but sometimes subsequent harvests or offerings of the same tea was meh; and I don't mean just cause it's a different picking season. I have not had a bad experience with their ripe puer, but a few others here have and say to stay away from the ripe; I think their raw is ok. Some have mentioned that they do use the, "from ancient trees" marketing(they do), and that their quality can range from meh, adverage, to pretty good. They also offer herbal tea that a lot have commented on, on being their more better and unique offering. You kinda have to know what your looking for and decided if its quality or basic. Especially since there is so much more now.

I say they're good and not a bad way to start into tea; they have a lot of resources. Also unlike say Yunomi or Yunana Sourcing, they ship from the states so theirs less chance of waiting forever for your tea. I always liked their teaware, and is one of the few places I'd buy a yixing from. They also offer a good amount of experimental tea, which I like. Granted if you just want high grade of a classic style those aren't always there. I do hope you like yours fren.

>> No.17973122

>>17973081
yes, young puerh is basically green tea only everyone brews puerh with full boiling unlike greens. i've found it mellows a lot after 2 years

>> No.17973127

>>17969729
Mine is rocky oolong; Wuyi types. I had one in a pot and even with short steps it just tasted like rock. When I got a chance to brew it in a giawan, all the flavor notes came out.

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Cold green tea with lime and mint is all I need

>> No.17973725

>>17951349
any yerba mate experts out there? I have a yerba mate plant but I don't know which leaves to harvest and how to brew the tea. Guayakí Yerba Mate with Mint is delicious and I would like to make my own at home.

>> No.17973772
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How much tea is too much tea? Where do you put the limit?
I usually drink 4 large cups, around 1.5L total, of black tea per day, and even if I don't drink it past 5 o'clock, sometimes I wonder if it could cause sleep issues.

>> No.17973860

>>17973772
No such thing as too much good tea. You just better not be drinking English breakfast or some shit

>> No.17973947

>>17973772
Depends as it varies wildly by type and the tea itself. If you want to drink tea all day lighter ones like white are good. That or just drink gonfu off one batch. Caffeine is more an issue when your constantly brewing full strength bags. Also have a time cut off so you don't end up stay up.

>> No.17974152

>>17957816
I think you have no idea what you're talking about and are ruining your tea.

No you are not supposed to swirl your teabags, if you were supposed to do that it would be common knowledge and it would be advised to do it.

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>>17957062
Thanks anon, i got their herbal tea sampler with it. I will try to post notes when i get it..

>> No.17974216

>>17951439
>White and green teas are the easiest types to make, followed by black tea and then oolong is the most difficult.
i would think that black tea is easier to make than green tea. for black tea you just need to rough up the tea a bit so it oxidizes quickly then let it dry where as for green tea you need to carefully "cook" the tea for the kill green step. oolongs are harder because you need to do both steps and possibly a deep roast at the end. white tea is definitely the easiest because all you have to do is let the tea dry.

>> No.17974417

White tea is
>cheap
>low caffeine
>high nutrition
>sweet
>durable for many brews
>ages gracefully
Easily the best all-around category

>> No.17974479

>>17971893
Interesting, thats along the line of what i expected, with the more efficient extraction from stirring you probably have to compensate by reducing the brew time

>> No.17974497

>>17973725
Not an expert but with tea you typically harvest the bud and the 2 or 3 leaves closest to the tip.
Not sure about processing either, you can probably lay it out flat in a single layer untill the leaves are dry and crispy. Then roughly chop the leaves and put them in a jar, keep an eye on the humidity and leave the jar lid off for a few hours if the leaves are still too humid.
If you want to make a mint version just buy some dried mint and then mix some of each together before brewing

>> No.17974514

>>17974216
The problem is actually oxidizing black tea isn't very easy. At scale they use lave tables and pile the leaves several inches high to maintain a certain temperature and humidity for the several hours or more it takes the tea to oxidize. At home you just kind of have to pile a bunch in a cardboard box and hope you have enough tea to keep the temp and humidity up.
I could be wrong but reading about making black tea at home sounded like a hassle. While making green tea seems like it should be reasonably easy wif you are decent at stir frying

>> No.17974979

>>17960861
>back in the late 90's pg tips (i think) had adverts with pyramid shaped 3d bags and sell the point that more area gives better tea, but i guess they were too expensive to make because you hardly see them anymore.
those bags give off a crazy amount of microplastic

>> No.17974993

>>17974497
Thank you. I read online you need some sort of weird pot to brew it traditional, but I can't figure out if it effects the taste at all. I'll try to grab the younger leaves and chop them like you suggested. Do you know if they need to be dried completely before making the tea?

>> No.17975189

>>17974993
I would wait untill they are dry. Otherwise it would probably taste strongly of chlorophyll.
It shouldn't take too long, a few days at most.
Traditionally commercial yerba matte is aged for several months to several years to mellow it some but i wouldn't worry about that too much. The bitterness is adjusted by the amout of mate dust in the final blend, more dust = more bitter. No dust will yeild a more mild brew, which is probably better for your homemade experiments anyways.
The traditional way to brew matte is explained in the pastebin but i would just stick with making it the way you do now, the traditional way uses a huge amount of matte and if you don't have much caffeine tolerance it would probably keep you up for two days straight

>> No.17975194

>>17974979
The pg tips bags are paper triangles not those nylon or whatever it is plastic ones you are thinking of.

>> No.17975263

>>17969776
>>17969817
I don't doubt just hot water and tea leaves make the same thing in a pinch but there's something to adding a routine that makes your day a bit more structured. How your mood is when you prepare and drink the tea affects your experience imo.

>> No.17975338

>>17975189
I'll give that a shot. What do you mean by mate dust? Leaves ground to dust? I harvested about a 1/2 cup of leaves and chopped them up. In a few days, I'll try to brew some tea. I'm really interested in the traditional method now. Caffeine has little effect on me so that might work better.

>> No.17975499

>>17975338
Yeah they end up with dleaves ground to dust from the processing and the more dust the more bitter it is.
Check the pastebin in the op or look at youtube videos if you want to see hoe people drink matte, you can use a small mug instead of the gords they tend to use

>> No.17975549

>>17975499
Or if he can grow a Yerba mate he can grow his own gourd

>> No.17975803

>Buy a bunch of fresh green tea
>It all tastes the same
>Buy a bunch of oolong tea
>Can tell the difference between each one
Is my nose busted or is the difference between green teas just really subtle?

>> No.17975815

>>17973772
Can ten grams of leaves achieve 1.5 litres? I'm genuinely asking because moolah.

>> No.17975925

>>17975803
There's about as much diversity within oolong tea in terms of flavor, as is between all other teas.

>> No.17975939

>>17975815
1g/100mL is fairly common in western style brewing, 1g/150mL is a pretty big stretch. Of course it depends on the tea, if you simmer 10g of heicha in 1500mL I bet it wouldn't be too weak.

>> No.17976219

>>17975939
Good to know. Without a teapot, I might jimmyrig my serving pitcher to do the job.

>> No.17976468

>>17975803
Like the other anon said there is a massive amount of variation in flavors of oolongs. From something green and floral to something that tastes creamy to something that tastes like charcoal and minerals

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What is your opinion of Turkish tea?

>> No.17977306

>>17976912
What makes it Turkish? Is it from china or india?

>> No.17977363

>>17968093
disclaimer: i am trans, dont know if that matters

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>>17977306
anon, please!!
It's grown in Rize, Turkey, the sixth largest tea producing country. For some reason never discussed.

>> No.17977884

>>17951492
Any time, gyokuro ages

>> No.17978378

>>17947320
How many cakes can you fit into the 17L container? Im considering getting the 11L instead since i dont have that many cakes yet

>> No.17978503

i heard pepper tea was a thing so i tried making it and started to feel nauseous half way through

>> No.17978508

>>17978503
half way through drinking it

>> No.17978599

>>17977462
Whoah i had no idea, what's it like? I'm guessing it's more in the indian style

>> No.17978606

>>17978503
Ive done some teas with ginger, honey and red pepper, it was nice for when i have a cold but i wouldn't drink it regularly. I'm guessing you tried peppercorns? Sounds unpleasant

>> No.17979360

it's too hot today
teas for this feel?

>> No.17979391

>>17979360
I always drink hot tea in hot weather. It's much better to just sweat than sit in the awkward stage where you are about to sweat and feel nasty. Drinking hot liquids in hot weather is a life pro tip.
Anyway i had a mild floral puer. It's kind of mediocre but when you brew it right its nice

>> No.17979687

>>17979360
mint tea

>> No.17979693

>>17979360
Ginger tea

>> No.17979795

>>17917218
>Makes me think, who has the highest powerlevel in this thread?
as a quick verry rough eyeball estimate i have probably have between 6.5-7.5 kg of tea on hand. mostly heicha and pressed white tea plus a dian hong cake and a few odds and ends. I like keeping a wide variety of stuff on tap and tend to rotate what i drink each day. at this rate i think my collection is going to keep growing which is fine because i don't bulk buy anything that does not age well.

>> No.17979877

>>17979795
That is probaby pretty high up there.
We had a guy who showed up for a few threads who claimed he had dozens of tongs of puer but he couldn't post any pictures because his wofe was sleeping in the room with the tea. That was ages ago now.
There is at least one other poster that might have more than you but i don't think he would post about it if he did.

>> No.17979893

>>17979877
*his wife was sleeping in the room with the tea

>> No.17979895

>implying any of you are high level
>no one has become a diplomat to China to get real yellow tea
>no one has moved into the mountains of China or Taiwan
>no one has accepted indentured servitude on a Japanese plantation

>> No.17979928

I live in a cave in the wuyi mountains ama

>> No.17979954

>>17979928
Should milk go in first or last?

>> No.17980029

>>17979877
My tea collection is not nearly as impressive as it sounds because I mostly only buy teas that are <15¢/g. It's large but not super premium. I am quite happy with it though.

>> No.17980034

>>17979954
If I were a tea farmer in the Mecca of oolong and a gaijin came and put milk in my tea I would kill myself

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>>17957062
My package arrived, here they are calling me a faggot probably

>> No.17980050

>>17980034
would you prefer it if i used caramel flavored coffee creamer instead?

>> No.17980057

>>17980029
There's a lot of good cheapies out there.

As an anecdote, it's become much warmer here now that it's, and it's been fairly humid the past few days. The bulang I bought a bit ago from puershop has actually opened up quite a lot. It has a mild but noticeable huigan now, it tastes much more like a proper puerh than whatever it was before. There's a lot of very expensive tea I'd like to buy, and if I had an infinite amount of money I'd be drinking the funkiest thirty year old Hong Kong storage around, but I've noticed that I've been enjoying drinking strange cheap tea a lot more than I thought I would. It's not necessarily the best tea, and it's not necessarily even good tea, but in terms of enjoyment per dollar some of my random impulse purchases have been among the best. I would almost say that spending as little money as possible on random tea that you have no expectations of would be my strongest tea related recommendation. It's really really really fun.

>> No.17980080

>>17980048
Lol it says
For the white man with small penis

>> No.17980088

>>17980057
Not that anon
Ive been getting pretty good at buying cheap tea lately. Its fun. Puershop is a bit like gambling but i have had some decent luck, they used to have some really cheap liubao bricks

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>>17980048
Here are the spoils. The tea is on the mild and minerally side of the rock oolongs. It has a beautiful amber color and a nice smell reminiscent of a cool mountain mist. I didn’t rinse the leaves but the first and second cups were very similar so I wouldn’t say it’s necessary. The tea started off with absolutely no sweetness, only a soft and clean tea flavor without any vegetal or brothy components, and a nice finish. As I kept going there was a hint of sweet grassiness that arose as the leaves started letting go of it, but it never lost that refreshing mountain spring water aspect that was very strong from the beginning. Compared to other rock oolongs I’ve had I would say this one is comparable, although not in league with the best rock oolongs to be had. definitely a fairly high quality tea.
Thanks again to the anon who financed this, even if it is an elaborate shill. The quick shipping was a pleasant surprise

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>>17980093
I'm so glad you liked it. I really like your pitcher. I always love the hand painted stuff. Also we have the same cat design.

>> No.17980178

>>17980057
>There's a lot of good cheapies out there.
That's kind of my buying strategy. I am always on the hunt for teas that look like they should have good price to performance. My lucks been pretty good even with blind buys and I have not had much in the way of duds (though i like some teas better than others). There is still plenty of bargains out there if you know how to look. However, I do wish we had more direct access to the Chinese market because despite all the online tea shops we have certain teas are hard or impossible to find and many are only available at grossly marked up prices.

as a small recommendation get this if you ever put in an order with yeeonteaco:
https://yeeonteaco.com/collections/black-tea/products/orchid-fragrant-liuan-jasmine-tea
is surprisingly good for the price if you like roasty floral teas.

>> No.17980214

>>17980163
He was too good to pass up when I saw him

>> No.17980236

>>17980178
Hmmmm, it might be time to make a sacrifice to the tea vampire.

>> No.17980241

>>17980236
I HUNGER

>> No.17980256

>>17980236
first time?

>> No.17980476

i've made hojicha a number of times but i've never tried more traditional roasting or oxidation for making greener oolongs darker, does anyone know how i can roast some oolong to make it taste like yancha

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Made some Ginger Tea for Work
>take roots
>cut up and blend w/ water until puree
>boil
>strain and filter

>> No.17981017

>>17980974
that's what I do when I'm sick, or making ginge syrup for mixed drinks. It's heavenly for a sore throat

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what should I expect from very cheap tea?

>> No.17981431

>>17981356
I would expect the leaf not to look like that

>> No.17981454

>>17951362
(i) Moroccans arent arab (ii) theres a difference between steeping and boiling (iii) the Mint leaves in Moroccan tea are never supposed to be boiled, only steeped. Any ukhti will tell you this

>> No.17981512

Considering starting to learn Chinese, am I going too far down the hole bros??

>> No.17981524

>>17981356
>TE NEGRO
>BASADO

>> No.17981525

>>17981454
>(i) Moroccans arent arab
You got this bit wrong, Morocco is a nearly entirely Arabized nation like most of North Africa and a leading member of the Arab League. 70% of the population is Arabic, 92% of the population speaks Arabic, and 99% of the population follows Islam.

>> No.17981549

>>17981525
>70%
where are you getting these numbers from? Arabized doesn't mean they are arab, teens globally have been americanized but they're not necessarily American because of it. Also a lot of Moroccans are just Amazigh in denial.

>> No.17981577

>>17981549
>universally considered a part of the Arab world by anyone who isn't a complete retard
>complete retard: "UM, ACKSHUALLY, THEY'RE NOT ARABIC"
By your standards, neither is half the Arab League. Fuck, you're an idiot.

>> No.17981580

>>17981512
Nevermind I did some research for 5 minutes and that does not look fun.

>> No.17981864

>on vacation
>looking for tea houses
>google shows 500 bubble tea joints
how do you filter out these places

>> No.17982102

>>17982101
>>17982101
>>17982101
>>17982101