/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Maximum tip for anything is $4.00. I am not their employer, they should be glad to get anything and 4 dollars is a gallon of gas (even now) in most places aside the biggest cities.

Usually go 20%

>>17845539
You should b ashamed of yourself.
I just overheard worker here @ dennys say $116 carryout they left nothing.
That's criminal I say.

20-25%

>>17845535
I always tip because im black and feel a need battle the stereotype that we don't tip
It makes me rage inside when i see other blacks not tipping and other poor-mannered behavior because then I get bad service based on the expectation ill act the same
There are times I tipped even when I got shit service due to racist waiters just for this reason.

However, i think tipping bullshit and we shouldn't be expected to tip unless I'm asking for EXTRA service on top of your basic duties:

Just ordering what's on the menu at a deli and grabbing my own seat? Not tipworthy
Being seated and telling the waiter exactly what I want? Not tipworthy

Coming with a large group and making the waiter explain the menu to a dozen people but my retard friends still dont get it? tipworthy
Asking for personal suggestions or to make extra trips to grab sauces, garnishes, plates? tipworthy

Barely explaining the menu and wanting me to leave before I even make an order? Not tipworthy.
Fucking up my order and acting like its my problem? Not tip worthy

Making personal requests or tons of substitutions requiring the waiter to take extra trips to the kitchen? tipworthy
Person taking my order hooks me up with free stuff? Tipworthy

>>17845535
ive trapped myself into going only to places that i enjoy and want to continue to enjoy, so yes. keeping palms greasy has worked well for me

>>17845547
Just because I spend a lot on food, why does that denote requiring more tip? You still did the same amount of work, you aren't the cook. If you allow me to tip the cook I will tip better if the food was good and/or a lot of it.

>>17845535
Never tip. If anyone deserves a tip its the chef. The waiter did fuck all other than their job as a grunt carrying food

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>>17845587
Good for u guys!
I don't give to beggers on the side of the road because they're not even trying restaurant work is hard work it's hot in there and they're under feet all day

>>17845602
yes and no
i was a line cook and while the work is very hard,
i don't have to deal with customers bullshit as much
i felt more psychologically stressed out by waiter/host/barista jobs than i did by cook jobs
at least as a cook you work with a team of the same people to accomplish a goal together
as a waiter you deal with random idiots from the general public that make a career out of finding creative ways to complain and bitch endlessly

Here's my standard for tipping.
>I'm clearly eating, my mouth is full of food or drink, or I'm engaged in a conversation.
>Waiter comes up
>HEY HOW IS EVERYTHING IS IT GOOD HOW ARE YOUR DRINKS DO YOU NEED A REFILL DO YOU WANT TO ORDER DESSERT YET OR WAIT OK WELL ILL COME BACK THEN

do this one time and you get a 50% tip
do this 2 times and you get no tip

I read countless threads that they intentionally wait until you're busy to do this so they can avoid interaction

>>17845613
I don't need anything off the waiter. I got my food, im eating it and going. They deserve nothing

>>17845535
Depends at a bar the first drink I order I pay take the change and drop a $20 tip looking the bartender in the eyes and honestly thank them some other small talk in there. You dumb cheap cunts wait 5-10 minutes or more to get drinks when it gets busy. Not me, front of the line if it's a female bartender she will even take an extra minute to flirt while other patrons get annoyed. Rando never coming back Restaurants if the service is good 30% if she's cute 40%. If shes cute tell her that's why the extra, well only if you're with your wife/gf/another female otherwise don't do that it's creepy. The shit you can get away with when you have a female with you is ridiculous. If I am establishing a place to take customers 100-200% in some cases. Make an impression and get intros to any of the staff there. 2-3 times you're getting amazing service or peace out.

>>17845535
Here's a tip:
don't bite the hand that feeds you.

>>17845631
>take customer to a restaurant
no office?

>>17845535
bring me my meal wagie! chop chop, ill tip you of its worth it, and if not then ill never come back anyway
no spitty in my sketti for me

if you forget about me you don't get a tip. If I've been taking baby sips of the final 5% of my drink that is now mostly melted ice because you can't be bothered to bring a refill, you get no tip.

If you want to be rewarded, try not being so awful at your job.

>>17845606
what

>>17845645
>hi valued customer, thanks for visiting. i know other people might take you out to a nice business lunch, but we're going to have shitty, cold deli sandwiches in the office. :D

>>17845630
Peasant
>>17845606
I am assuming you meant on their feet. That's bullshit I hear that complaint you get to wear 45lb toolbags for 5 minutes and go up/down a 6' ladder. That's not why wait staff get sympathy from me. It's because they have to deal with all you dumb mother fuckers that have a million demands and no sense. Then to top it all off don't drop a little extra for them not choking you out in the parking lot then slamming your head in the car door repeatedly.

>tipping
I don't tip shit.

>>17845639
>Here's a tip:
>don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I don't go to the exact same restaurant every week. I only go out every couple of weeks, and I like variety, so it's a different place every time.
It might be 6 months - 1 year before I rotate back to the same place again.

You wanna tell me that all the same staff is gonna be at that place, at the exact same time, and they're gonna recognize you as the guy who gave a subpar tip 1 year ago, and go and tell all the kitchen staff that the bad tipper from last year is back?

Bullshit.

>>17845653
what do you sell that requires you to buy food for people in order to make them do business with you?
does your product not sell itself?

i probably tip way more on a bar doing drinks that in the restaurant business. but at least i go for 20% in both places

>>17845645
Bruh, if I am after a million dollar plus sale I am not taking a customer through the gauntlet of peasant accounting staff to have a cup of kurig in the break room.
Also see >>17845653

>>17845535
I tip but I'm a light tipper because:
A. Servers make more than a factory grunt like me on average (especially the pretty ones).
B. They don't deserve it because they barely do anything.

Why do we as a society even bother to tip waitresses? We should be tipping the cooks that actually prepare your food not the bitch that carries a plate.

0% since I live in Ontario and they make minimum wage.

I have never tipped a cent in my life. Some idiots will say it's expected at some venues but I have never done it and I have never received bad service because of it. t. australian.

tipping is fucking retarded ur just getting extra money for nothing
its understandable if it was just a show of good work like in some places, but if its mandatory, or you get pissy cause people dont hand u extra no reason money for fuck all you can suck it

>>17845673
>Sells itself
Top kek Anon, that's not how things work. You have any idea how the world works? Give me something you're into and know about I will explain it through that lense.
>Also treat all servers well, throw big tips.
You will get amazing service and maybe a blowjob in the bathroom.

>>17845668
No, I'm not going to tell you that. I meant that the customer is the hand that feeds. This Anon is right >>17845647

>>17845673
>hi valued customer, I know at this point other people might break for lunch, but our product sells itself so we're not going to eat today! :D

>>17845696
>yeah i really wanted to buy that piece of real estate, but the realtor didn't take me out on a date so now I'm going to get mad and back out

>>17845673
for reference, I'm an engineer at a company that sells things. engineers notoriously love gobbling up free food.

when office managers source food for customers/employees, I don't even fucking touch it. they have one singular goal: cheap.

>>17845727
>engineers notoriously love gobbling up free food.
looks like they notoriously love shooting up grocery stores too

>>17845702
You do sales to Anon?
>>17845692
It's not nothing, some days people are just shits. They are abusive to staff when they make a mistake not the staff miscommunicate something, are trying to get free shit. Most service industry peeps are wildly underpaid for what they deal with on the daily. Working one of those jobs is important as a good stepping stone in building yourself into a better human.
Due to my background I would prefer the menus to include a 25% gratuity on all items with kickers from margin on products you need to move. That way the staff are more front facing sales than servers.

>>17845745
we'll have robot servers soon, and they'll do all that automatically without needing to read a sales script every night to see what they're supposed to be pushing

>>17845547
>carryout
Thanks for bringing this topic up for discussion.

I tip 5% when I order carryout. They try and get me to leave 15% but I think that's fucking dumb. Let me explain my reasoning.
>work tables inside restaurant
>limited to your tables in your section
>customers spending minimum 30 minutes but easily much longer at a table
>they are very limited in how many tickets they cash out per hour, thus deserve to make more per ticket eg 15-20%

>be carryout/curbside waitress
>spend maximum 5 minutes on any given order
>massive number of tickets cashed per hour
>less time spent on an order = less tip percentage
>but many more orders = many more tips
I explained this to a friend of a friend recently (a waiter at a decent local restaurant) and he acted like I was rubbing his nose with my ass crack. Told me there was so much more than went into it that I didn't understand because I didn't work in a restaurant. I said, OK, like what? He just said I wouldn't understand. What does ceekay believe? Am I an asshole?

>% based tip system
That's my issue. Why should a waiter get more money because they carried a soda and steak to my table instead of water and pasta?

>>17845708
>gotta go out on a date to sell something
Oh FFS Anon how do you think realtors get bigger clients? It's about relationships not just about the, "date," if that's what you want to call it. There are a ton of realtors out there why go with just one was there only one property the customer is interested in? This is why you're poor Anon, such one dimensional thinking.
There are 2 realtors in every equation if you are talking about your agent that's representing you as a buyer then maybe you should be interviewing that person. There is a lot of money on the table you gonna trust some random asshole to represent your best interests? If your selling a property how do you find buyers? You need a network, yeah you can get interest with a listing but then you can end up sitting 3 months in escrow and the deal falls through because the rando agent on the otherside of that deal didn't vet the customer.

Another cancer invented by Americans. I used to just round up to the next Mark, waiters do earn a fair wage in Germany and still more and more expect you to tip.

Fucking third world country where employers can reduce minimum wage to almost nothing if their staff get more than a few dollars in tips per month.

The whole US tipping thing was started by copying Europe who have since pretty much scrapped the original idea.

You used to make niggers work for no pay just hoping for tips on railroads after slavery was ditched ffs.

OK near fucking over railroad niggers is kinda based but the whole tip to get good service is fucking retarded.

>>17845758
Good sales don't need scripts. You see a sales script know the company is run by hapless boomers. Speaking of hapless boomers that's why tipping is a thing to begin with.

>>17845809
That's why the tip needs to be included in the cost. Servers should be incentivised by the company not the customer. Trust me if the servers had a system like this in place they would always give good service.

Anywhere from 10-20% on dining in depending on service, I’ve never had it so bad I wouldn’t tip before but I guess that’s an option
Zero on fast food or takeout

I tip when food is brought to me by a waiter or delivery boy. If I'm ordering at a counter I'm only tipping if you do something above and beyond.
I'd rather just pay more for food outright and tipping go away forever. In Japan where tipping is not done, you don't have a specific server for your table, generally. You call out to anyone and get help immediately. Service is better and faster. I'm not saying glorious nippon is better at service, rather that serving staff not having to make a show of serving theater to beg for tips improves service overall.

They already make an ok salary in France and shitload of cash thanks to americans/japanese/whtvr tiping.
A friend of mine made 4k€ one month thanks to tips.

So no I never tip, unless if the waiter really put out or I'm visiting some place way poorer than mine.

>>17845535
that image is a massive cope hahahahaha you already served me!

>>17845535
>I always go 15% wife is more generous.
I have been tipping 30%

My wife's a waitress. I don't fully agree with tipping.
Waiting staff tend to make 2-3 bucks an hour plus tips. If they make less than a certain amount of tips before they get paid, they're given a set wage instead, usually minimum. Waiting staff do not suffer in any way monetarily if you don't tip them. Most of them don't deserve it. However, if it's particularly busy and my waitress has still been polite and on point, I'll consider tipping. If my party orders a lot of different stuff constantly, keeping her even busier, I'll consider tipping. If I see a table of negroidians leave a huge mess and no tip, I'll even consider tipping since nobody should have to suffer those creatures.
But all in all, I don't believe an employee deserves extra money from me just for doing their job. However, if I'm a regular at a certain location, I like to tip well because they'll often give me free stuff as a result. I don't go by percentages, just whatever I feel is fair.

But again, I'd like to reiterate, because too many of you retards refuse to learn. Waiting staff recieve 3 shekels PLUS tips. Tips often are waaay over the (often) minimum wage they'd be making without tips. If they don't make enough tips, they're given minimum. You're not forcing them to live off 3 bucks an hour by not tipping. There's a reason my wife's been a waitress all these years, she makes bank

>>17845539
are you my wifes 80 year old cheapskate aunt?

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>>17845775
found the psychopaths.

>>17845966
found the psychopath.

>>17845535
I don’t believe in tipping unless you’re literally sucking my pecker
It isn’t my responsibility for ensuring that you need tip money to make up for your wages when your employer should be paying you a respectable wage without the need to top it up with tips (which happened to me more than once)

You don’t feel the need to tip McDonald’s workers now do you

>>17845966
>people discussing tipping in a tipping thread
>mental illness

This is the same shit as why Sonic (the chain fast food restaurant) is one of the lowest paying chains. Look at Chick Fil A. It's the same shit, just slightly higher quality, with a different clientele. One is using carhops. The other is using people who stand outdoors, staring at the sun. Same shit in a different hat. The question shouldn't be "How much do YOU tip" but "Why are we relying on an outdated system to ensure wages for some of our most poverty susceptible workers"

The food industry is notoriously harsh. Look at every line cook, ever. If you were a healthy, non-smoking, happy, linecook, you'd be as odd out as fucking bigfoot getting a piggyback ride from your long estranged birth father, anon.

Wage solving doesn't come from the masses. It comes from higher up, but we can change the culture.

>>17846038
This. Tipping literally allows the employer to get off Scot-free from paying their employees a better wage.

okay, here is what i dont get.
your food comes out and youre like "hey can i get some mustard (or sauce) please?" and theyre like "yeah ill grab it for you" but then i guess they go to do other task in the meantime.
meanwhile im just staring at my food waiting for mustard while everyone else is eating and i often have to wait 5+ minutes.

...can i just walk up to the "back of house" entrance and ask for a lil cup of mustard or salsa?

dont you think it would be obvious that i want my mustard to eat with my food? why do they not bring it out immediatly?

>>17846188
Probably
I used to slave as a line cook when I was young and I'd have given you some mustard.

>>17846188
get my man his mustard

>>17846188
What kind of fucking child do you have to be to not be able to have a single bite of your meal without your discussion little sauce

No. Rule of Acquisition #3 clearly states, "Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to".

>>17846197
>just eat food you payed for in a way that doesnt bring you as much joy because some faggot anon on a chinese rice herding forum told you to
no

>>17846033
Tiping is a convenient way for (((business owner))) to leave wage pressure to the customer, which somehow makes total sense but only for restaurants.
It should be a bonus on a fair wage for good service, nothing more.

>>17846197
>What kind of fucking child do you have to be to not be able to have a single bite of your meal without your discussion little sauce
i enjoy suaces more than the food they come on.

>>17846188
It's usually around the restaurant, you can just grab it and nobody will notice (maybe some waiter not doing his job and seeing his tip getting 50% thiner).

I tip 15% and round up which used to be a decent tip. Now that they're trying to make over 20% the norm I'd rather cook something nice at home. Just pay your fucking workers properly cheapskate I'm not going to enable your slave wages.

>>17846233
>tell wagie to do something
>they dont
>get up and do it urself
>wagie is proud of themselves
>leave empty sauce container where the tip should go

>>17846213
I agree. I worked in a place in which all of our tips, and I mean all of them, were taken off us and meant to be shared at the end of the year. Which never once happened. The owner was instead dipping in and using it for wages and for himself despite barely ever being around and letting his bitch wife also use it for key bumps. Thank fuck I moved on from that place. It genuinely made me angry and still does that it’s frequently abused

>>17845535
I tip pretty well because I'm a 42 year old with no family so what the hell else am I going to spend my money on.

>>17845535
20% at the table
33.3333333% at the bar
50% delivery

Tipping is pretty much not existent where I live, as it should be.

>>17846188
>>17846233
>It's usually around the restaurant, you can just grab it and nobody will notice (maybe some waiter not doing his job and seeing his tip getting 50% thiner).
i just happens so often that i figure its a regular thing,i know i look poor but im eating with my family who doesnt look poor. maybe its just instinct that i am not a high prioriety karen?

I only tip delivery drivers cash, and sometimes alot if they're noticeably quick eg a pizza driver
Waiters get an meh-ok tip depending how quickly they serve me
I deliver packages for UPS so im just sympathetic towards drivers. Fuck doordash and uber drivers though lol

If I'm traveling, why should I tip? I'm never coming back, so what do I get out of it?

My rule of thumb:
-counter-service: 15% for standard service, 0$ minimum
-table-service: 20% for standard service, 3$ minimum
-delivery: 15% for standard service under ideal conditions, ~30% for bad weather/long distance/etc, 5$ minimum

>>17846233
>It's usually around the restaurant, you can just grab it and nobody will notice (maybe some waiter not doing his job and seeing his tip getting 50% thiner).
is it bad to grab peoples leftover suaces, sides or half-eaten sandwiches to take home as youre walking out of the restaurant? theyre gonna throw it away.

im a poorfag and dont have enough to tip. Im sure plenty of other people are tipping so 1 person not tipping isnt a total loss.

>>17846265
i did freelance furniture delivery so i tip anytime there is a job where the server has the opportunity to do a shit job or a great job
sandwich maker, car mechanic, delivery+installation guy, consultation advisor,
not soo much waiter cuase i never really ask for anything above and beyond regular service... in fact i try to minimize service recieved in order to minimize the tip i am 'obligated' to leave behind

>>17846263
>maybe its just instinct that i am not a high prioriety karen?
Maybe they think you wont tip idk, happens to me all the Time in Europe.

>>17846278
>is it bad to grab peoples leftover suaces, sides or half-eaten sandwiches to take home as youre walking out of the restaurant?
Yes it's bad and not restaurant etiquette in most of the western world

>>17846278
Yeah it would be considered weird as fuck to snatch half eaten food off of random people's plates if you aren't a hobo

depends how drunk i am

Imagine subsidizing Jews to underpay staff

Tipping is a fucking scam where customers pay the wages so that owners can underpay their staff.

If you can't run a restraint successfully enough to pay your staff the bare minimum to survive, you don't deserve to be in business.

>T. 15% eurotipper

100% will not tip at 95% of the time.
A wages for you to get paid a tip is for going above and beyond.
Being friendly is not above and beyond has a lot of people have to do that but don't work in service.

Tipping is financial cuckery. You are letting a business owner fuck your wallet and you are thanking him for it.

It's pretty common for the restaurant owner to take all the tips at the end of the night

>he tips
OH NO NO NO NO

Why should the tip be based on how much you spend? What kind of logic is that? Does the wagie deserve more because he brought out a steak instead of a salad?

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>>17846434
I use this logic.

>>17845677
If I'm spending a million dollars on something, I'm not trusting the salesperson trying to influence my decision with a lunch. You and your clients are the sickness in the world.

>>17846434
Hmmmm point taken

For as many people here claim to tip low/nothing/conditionally, anecdotally I can say in my year waiting tables at a wealthy white neighborhood in DC I was only "stiffed" twice, which is to say less than 5% on big tables. So the proximity of these shit tipper posters to anything resembling real human civilization must be low. I made about $85k.

If im out of town I don't tip at all

Tipping based on a percentage is dumb. Waiter carrying a $20 plate of food an waiter carrying an $80 plate of food is the same thing to the waiter. Why would I give more money to one over the other? The kitchen staff hardly ever gets any of the tips and they are the ones doing the work that makes a difference between $20 and $80. I am not paying the waiter extra because the chef made me lobster instead of a burger.

I tip based on a combination of how many dishes they brought, friendliness, and how attentive they were to drinks and the such.

>>17845535
I tip 1% since waitresses only get alerted if they get 0%. Always on debit so they can't ask for cash.

I am almost always more broke than the waiters, they probably understand

>>17846477
>real human civilization
"Mandatory" tipping is a weird outdated artifact know only in North America.
You're not expected to tip your banker, your GP, your hvac technician and so on.
But for some reason it's totally logical with waiters.
Just pay them a fair wage and reward good service on an individual basis.

>>17845535
tipping is a corporate scam. when you tip you support workers being paid that much less.

>>17845535
>tipping
lol no

>>17845535
Americans are the ultimate cucks with their tipping.

>inb4 europoor
Nigger, the Pound and Euro are worth more than the Dollar. You're the ones who are poor.

>>17846590
>Basics economics
>You
Choose one

>>17845535
It really shouldn't be my responsibility to pay your wages. That should be your employers responsibility. Fuck 'obligatory' tipping, make it once again a reward for excellence.

>>17845535
here's a tip
get a better job

>>17845587
stay based, bro
stay based

>>17846689
Lmao as if yanks are capable of basic math without help from joos

>tipping becomes common practice as it becomes legal to underpay employees as long as they make it back on tips
>this is true in the US and fuck knows where else
>tipping slimes its way into every crack of the service industry in every country
>wagies are effectively demanding a bribe to not spit in my food
>not even content with a fixed bribe, it has to be xx% of the total bill
>if i even bring up the subject people instantly return a wrongthinkbad canned response "just tip or dont eat out bro dont think about it its just the way things are"

>>17846460
The lunch isn't the influence Anon. It's a relationship building exercise where if your astute you can actually learn a lot about your customer. The reason you frequent an establishment and tip ridiculous is when you take a customer there you will get far better service. Subconsciously the mark I mean customer will associate the treatment with status. These are common practices in what the stupid boomers call C level sales. I went with the real-estate example as that's what you put up. In all honesty sometimes a fancy meal isn't necessary sometimes it's fast food and cocaine. The deals I'm most familiar with are in tech, like automation systems and yes this is how that business works especially on nontransactionary accounts. Try selling an automation or energy management system for a stadium without doing those things. You will always be poor if you continue to believe you know everything.

>>17846335
>free pass for hobos
noted.

>>17846788
>live in a country where it's not legal to underpay employees as long as they make it back in tips
>all of this still applies and is on top of their already typical wage

Why isn't the cost of employees calculated into the price of the meals?

>>17845587
best post in thread, hit every point perfectly

>>17845535
I would only do it because i feel pity for the poor wagies

Tipping is retarded and only continues because jew restaurant owners don't want to pay fair wages. I make my own food and haven't needed to type for two years.

>>17845587
>free stuff
>tip worthy
It's not free if you pay for it, retard.

I
WILL
NOT
TIP

>>17846434
I say the same thing about tipping the fags that carry the plates but not the people that wash the dishes or cook the food or clean the tables. The entire system of tipping is fucking retarded.

>>17845587
>ideologically opposed to tipping
>does it anyway to serve a higher purpose
Stay based anon

>>17845602
It depends on the restaurant, at a high end restaurant the waiter will do more than just bring plates to and from the table, they're creating an experience.

>>17847265
There's a $325/head place in DC that also tacks on a service charge %. No tipping allowed. This is the destiny of any place that abolishes tipping, it just gets shifted elsewhere.

>>17847285
Why? They choose to work at a shit-paying job. Why should anyone make up for the money their greedy bosses won't pay them?

>>17847331
No """experience""" is worth subsidizing a lazy business run by greedy managers. Grow a spine.

I only tip if I feel like they've done good service. Yes I understand employers skimp on paychecks because of the history of tipping but giving extra money is not obligatory and you shouldn't expect to get one from everyone. I also will absolutely never tip if they ask about it because that's usually a sign of a large ego and people like that disgust me beyond belief.

>>17846231
Why don't you just go the fridge and eat sauce then you disgusting creature. Go on little piggy, enjoy your condiments, vile little sauce man.

>>17845535
not really in restaurants
but when i go grab some fags at the gas station and its late or weekend or some other shitty shift i usually tip them

>>17845535
I don't.

t. European.

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>>17845544
correct answers. anyone who doesn't tip deserves to be followed to their car and physically assaulted

>>17845535
not at all

>>17845966
Kek found the wagie

>>17847315
based