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It's my favorite kind of wine but it's not very versatile and I have to be in the mood for it

>>17812172
I agree, overly sweet wine always lacks complexity, but it tastes good. I would pay get it with girl who likes it, or if it's really cheap and I'm just trying to smash a bottle real quick.

>>17812172
good cold on a hot day in the sun, that's about it. i like me some savignon blanc with fried chicken, can do anything with that white i keep a squeeze bottle full to deglaze pans

>>17812172
My girl only likes Moscatos. What's the strongest Moscato I can buy that will knock her on her ass but still taste sweet-ish?

>>17812424
Spike it with grape flavored vodka

I've been buying a lot of riesling lately for some reason, picrel I had last night, I've got a kabinett and an auslese from mosel in the fridge

According to 4chins this grape is "controversial" or something

Then again people get butthurt if you say "alvarinho" and not "albariño" so I think /ck/'s resident winos are just looking for reasons to get offended

>>17812616
I found some decent riesling for $6.50 so suddenly I love it. Used to think I would never enjoy sweet wine but the off-dry kind is satisfying, gotta admit.

>>17813706
Riesling can be anywhere from super sweet to bone dry, it's a god tier grape.

The cheap stuff lacks acidity which is what makes it unpleasant to drink. With enough acidity you can have a lot of sugar and it still tastes good.

For me it's Mosel Riesling

>>17812172
Drink it with spicy Thai or SEA food, also goes well with an egg and bacon sandwich. But it's a dessert wine so have it with eggy fruit desserts, or light not too sweet sponge cakes, angel food cake with strawberries or pancakes

>>17812280
>good cold on a hot day in the sun, that's about it.
Yep, drank it extra cold. The sweetness would be overpowering otherwise.
I also bought some 2-buck-chuck-tier dry Lambrusco. Gonna try it today and see if it's vaguely drinkable.

>>17814254
Update: it's hooch level, but it goes pretty well with some ancient nasty-looking olives and a couple oxidized mortadella (with truffle bits) sandwiches.

>>17814013
Yeah keep it up westoid, good good The only wine pairing options for non-french food are moscato, gewurztraminer, and sometimes riesling, it never changes. McFucking kill me now.

Vino

Rate my picks from today's liquor store run

>only Pauillac red wines make me cum and want to drink them constantly
>they also happen to be disproportionally expensive compared to most French wines

Gonna fucking die

>>17812172
It's (mostly) desert wine, Anon, and I'd only drink it for a dish where I'd want more lightness and freshness than a Sautern or Tokaij. Have it with strawberries, sponge cake or ice cream with complementary flavours.
If you like dry wine, I'd have no idea why you'd drink a bottle of it.

>>17812616
There's nothing controversial about Riesling, there's just a huge span in the quality of Riesling wines.

>>17817556
>If you like dry wine, I'd have no idea why you'd drink a bottle of it.
I decided to try something different on a whim.

>>17816954
High quality and low volume is a good drinking style

My father had his own wine cellar and he always had a few boxes of this riesling on hand. It was pretty good stuff. If he wanted a more buttery white wine he'd get Le Bouteau.
I wish I could remember all the names of the vinyards but he had several kinds of pomerol, beaurdoux and bourgogne as well as some other stuff within reach.
That man could drink let me tell ya

>>17819162
Mosel rieslings are worth buying for the labels alone

>>17812616
Riesling is the best white wine grape imo. There was a lot of cheap, sweet riesling in the past but the quality of German riesling in particular has improved a lot.

Riesling sucks. Just drink chardo.

>>17820395
I'm not made of money
A $20 riesling is a damm good riesling
A $20 chardonnay is mediocre at best
Some grapes are just not worth bothering with unless you're prepared to spend

>>17812172
Pic related is the best white wine I found at Vinmonopolet so far.

>>17820395
>Riesling sucks
kys

>>17820593
Good taste, Anon. Bourgogne Blanc is delicious, especially Meursault wines.
Chavy-Chouet Bourgogne Les Femelottes is a good, slightly cheaper alternative (like 60 NOK less), but your Les Parcellaires de Saulx Bourgogne Les Mursottes Chardonnay is overall better. If you're willing to spend 539 a bottle, try Louis Jadot Meursault Narvaux. I'd recommend trying Fabien Coche Meursault Les Luchets if you're feeling luxurious, but it appears to be sold out.

>>17812172
Are you a male to female transitioning or something?

>>17821481
mtfs in my experience overwhelmingly prefer weed over alcohol

t. mtf appreciator

>>17815473
I don't get what you mean?

>>17822046
>>17815473
I'm not sure what you're getting at but I actually like Moscato with piperade and some crusty bread, it's really good with eggy dishes

>>17822046
I mean it's tiresome and an indictment of sommeliers as a profession that they only ever recommend the same 3 wines for basically everything between syria and papua new guinea. It makes it obvious that they're just regurgitating shit they memorized in a book and are utterly incapable of pairing food with wine based on taste

>>17822064
Oh ok, well I discovered the egg and bacon sandwich and piperade on my own because of how it goes with eggs and salt, a onion quiche I bet would be good with it

>>17822064
What would you have with it? I also was going to say use some to make a zabaglione and pour that over a warmed panettone and drink it with that, or pour it over warm panettone with ice cream, these are based on experiences as well

>>17822115
Yeah but that's western food. Which you referred to by name, I might add. I was complaining about the way wine pairing is done so carefully when it's western food particularly western european food. Like, oh you're having Carl von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Abtsberg Riesling Grosses Gewachs 2017? For that vintage, I'd go with schweinshaxe in the north east Bavarian style. Or just like, you know, asian food or something. Ching chong ping pong crab rangoon, extra spicy! Have these people ever tasted high quality nonwestern food? And if so did they not wonder what wines might go well with it?

>>17822121
Again with the hyper-specific pairings. What I'm asking you to do is consider that maybe it goes with certain specific dishes, endemic to countries outside of western europe, which perhaps you could consider naming (the dishes not the countries). But more importantly, how about venturing outside the "other cuisines" section that they skim over in sommelier school, and thinking for yourself?

This being 4chan I don't expect a serious answer, commence your poo in loo mee ruv you rong time memery.

General question because the thread started off on the topic of Moscato and Lambrusco, and Rieslings can often fall into this category, what's are some good low alcohol wines you've had for people that don't want to get drunk?

>>17822210
Vinho verde is usually low-ish

>>17822198
>I was complaining about the way wine pairing is done so carefully when it's western food
I kind of get what you mean Edward Said, but I often find pairing recommendations are generally vague. The picture is the recommendation from the wine producers website. What's a "savoury first course" what's a "rich" sauce?

>>17822198
>they skim over in sommelier school and thinking for yourself?
I not one

Well funnily enough I paired a dry Sicilian moscato recently with aguachile verde with tostadas and poisson cru with rice which was really good, I think a sweet moscato would go with shanghai mantou or char siu sou

This is the only wine I drink

>>17822198
I'd also add a chicken biryani and r'fissa to the sweet moscato paring, I love these sweet, mildly spiced, nutty dishes with it as well

>>17822294
Well I mean the ones from the producers are probably based on what they eat in that area. But I'd like to see more people considering... I'm not going to get too specific because my short list of statistically improbable pairings is going to get me doxed due to my ranting about this elsewhere online.

Point being it doesn't have to just be moscato riesling and gewurz. It doesn't even have to be just white wine. It's just that some guy created this meme, probably decades ago, and people have been beating the dead horse silly and causing generations of drinkers to simply dismiss the concept that non-european foods could possibly be consumed with "serious" wines. I mean that's probably something a dumb new money chinaman would do right? Everyone knows you can't pair red wines with oriental food. Especially not any "serious" red wines, though possibly lambrusco, schiava, and wines of that style.

Is alcohol free wine a meme?

>>17822352
>I mean that's probably something a dumb new money chinaman would do right? Everyone knows you can't pair red wines with oriental food
Look Fanon, you should use the Gourmet Traveler website, I like their parings, it's a recipe website but sometimes each recipe has a pairing, they have a recipe for essentially Lamb Korma paired with Barolo which I tried and was good https://www.gourmettraveller.com.au/recipes/chefs-recipes/avanis-lamb-curry-7908 I think it's because Australia is new world that they don't mind doing what you want to see more of.

>>17822352
>But I'd like to see more people considering... I'm not going to get too specific because my short list of statistically improbable pairings
Share some it'd be interesting to see, I don't think people would dox you on the wine thread of /ck/

>>17812172
Not every day is a good day for Chianti, but it's good for so many things that aren't liver and fava beans, and yet also so good with them.

>>17822352
Also you often see Peking duck paired with serious red wines

>>17822395
Well since you mentioned barolo I'll let it slip that nebbiolo is involved, but that's as much detail as I'm going to get into here in case the angry Kim Crawford guy figures out my home address and mails me a pipe bomb or some dead muslim toddlers or something. /ck/ wine threads can get surprisingly hostile.

>>17822403
Could be interesting though that's leaning dangerously close to "new money chinaman" in my mind.

>>17822362
yes