/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17797958
Let her put whatever she wants on her body but respectfully have a conversation and say it's not for you or try it with her for like a week and then say you don't like

>>17797964
Look I am kinda scared that whenever I talk back to her she would start talking with her Facebook Exes again. How do I convince her that I just want to eat what I want and that if she refuses to cook for me I'll just buy something everyday.

>>17797958
>asking a bunch of underage contrarians how to handle your wife acting like she has the dick in the relationship
I expect good things from this thread

They're pretty expensive, and you have to eat more of them as they're generally less protein dense, and their amino balances aren't great.

But if it's morally superior, those may be acceptable sacrifices

>>17797980
>Look I am kinda scared that whenever I talk back to her she would start talking with her Facebook Exes again
Welp, there goes any chance of your larp being convincing.
Do better next time

>>17797980
Learn to cook she's your burger on your mom. If you brought rely on her 100% for food then you don't really get a choice even if you're paying for it.

>>17797980
not that original anon, however, i think having a talk about what her actual plans/meals would be is a start.
If she comes in with the synth meat suggest a vegetarian diet.

>>17797991
Partner I have no idea why it autocorrected to Burger

First of all, jumping straight into veganism is a terrible idea, even for people who want to be vegan. See if you can start off with only 1 vegan day per week, and then working your way towards 6 vegan days per week, keeping a cheat day for non-vegan food until you're both equally committed. But assuming that your marriage is heading towards veganism anyway, let's work on avoiding Impossible and Beyond.

Shop separately from her. Buy mainly grains (rice, wheat, corn, quinoa, etc), legumes (beans, lentils, nuts, tofu, etc) and vegetables. Keep the receipts from your purchases separate from the receipts from her purchases. Cook your own vegan meals separately from hers, but share yours with her. After a month, add up receipts. See how much you were spending on veganism versus how much she was spending on veganism.

When she sees the price of her foolishness, Impossible and Beyond will go from a once-per-day essential to an occasional treat just a few times per year.

Good luck, and don't forget to look for foods with Vitamin B12 (like nutritional yeast) and Omega-3 (like flax oil), because otherwise you're going to be pretty deficient with those.

>>17798010
It's actually a lot cheaper to be a vegan overall
Especially the cheese

>>17797980
You're saying you wife is going to start cheating on you because you won't go vegan with her? What kind of relationship are you in bro? Please be joking.

>>17798015
All the people don't buy beyond meat all the time

>>17798015
It's cheaper to buy vegan food.
It's more expensive to buy commercialized vegan """food""" products.

>>17797980
If this is true, kill her and eat her, I'm not being sarcastic this is the only way to avoid the repercussions of her threats.

>>17798020
People are dumb when we probably can't fix this so it's not even worth talking about

>>17797958
Vegan meats are... honestly shit lol. The only thing I can say that is convincible and good, are the impossible burgers, those are the closest I've seen vegan meat get to actually replicating real meat, but the beyond chicken and sausage shit just has shitty texture and the taste isn't good.

No point in compared to real Meats >they're better looked at as a new category of food.
They're putting those shapes and sold in their shapes because they're recognizable. They're called things like meat so they're identifiable.

>>17798038
It's not even new it's just a new idea for a lot of people

not veggie/vegan but tried the quorn vegetarian chicken slices and they're quite nice
also tried some vegan chorizo and it was pretty bad. though it mightn't be so bad if it just marketed itself as its own thing and not a chorizo sausage alternative

>>17798029
Wanna share how you reach 50g protein a day on only vegan whole foods without taking steroids for appetite?

>>17797980
?
So fucking hit her. God damn.

>>17798064
Up here a lot of things get the plant-based title instead I think they'll probably introduced in America or places up in Hawaii it's just you need to capture your audience first

>>17797958
Tell her to read the ingredients list and decide if that stuff is healthier than a piece of chicken.

>>17797958
Skip the fake meat, learn how to get the most out of veg, legumes and grains.

>>17797958
>feels like taking me with her
tell her to eat shit.

The issue with this sludge production is the intent of the manufacturers to reduce costs and feed you bugs over time. You are an absolute fool to replace whole food processing with this literal garbage. Eventually they will eat steak and you will eat slime.

Seriously, think about this.

>>17797958
just tell her being vegan deprives your body of stuff necessary to upkeep your skin, hair and teeth, she'll look like a dehydrated 80 years old ghoul in a short time

>>17798120
They don't want that the US has spend so much money in smear campaigns against vegan food and products. The Land being free would cause the middle class has to have more freedom to.

>>17797958
It's highly processed food and therefore not that good for you albeit being plant based.
Also it's as expensive as meat.
I rather eat smoked tofu in stir fry than some processed shit that needs shittons of fat to taste ok. Tofu is also way cheaper than meat/vegan meat, so I don't really get why products like beyond meat exists.
I had a little health scare when I ate lots of meat/eggs that manifested in my left arm being looking white/anemic, which solved itself after eating tofu for protein for about a week instead of animal products. I got so used to the texture of firm tofu that I actually prefer it to the mouthfeel of meat. And spending way less money on food is nice.

>>17797958
>Wife wants to go vegan
she’s gonna get leathery skin

>>17798156
When I first started eating tofu when I was younger I had no idea how to cook it and I thought it was the grossest thing in the world tried it again years later oh my God this is so good learn to cook it at home I was actually retarded not too

>>17797958
We keep a box of Gardein burger pattys in the freezer. Suprisingly good. Thats the only thing Ive ever tried

>>17797958
Never had the beyond brand.
I've had impossible burgers, and it didn't make me sick, but something felt off about them while they were sitting in my stomach.

>>17798167
I also avoided tofu for a long time as I only knew the bland, soft version in Miso soup that was meh. But extra firm tofu in some spicy stir fry with some cabbage, mushrooms, hot peppers with oyster sauce is so good I could eat it a couple times a week for a long time.

>>17798162
>allowing your wife to use social media
Ngmi

>>17798182
If you like these will probably like the ground""beef""
It gets soft in certain things though

>>17798185
A lot of people don't actually get enough fibre on The Daily and switching pain feel weird for the first little bit

>>17797958
>>17797980
Tell her that you will join her in converting to veganism if she will join you in converting to Islam.

>>17798187
I think that was the part of the problem too when I was younger.
I didn't understand/know that there were differencet density.
I think that's probably why I got such a bad rap.

Yves is a nice replacement for seasoned and sauce based meat, impossible meat is pretty great albeit expensive, you'll never find a good cheese replacement. Start with vegetarian replacements and then decide if you want to go full on vegan.

Or just become a reducitarian like me.

>>17798206
After I learned to cook, I saw what a mediocre cook my mom was, especially from the nutrition standpoint. We ate way too much carb and waaay too little protein. No wonder I was a skinny skeleton as a child. Now I'm putting on muscle without even working out from just eating more protein.

>>17797989
/thread

Humans are not herbivores and are not adapted to an herbivore's diet.

It is not more moral to harm yourself in an attempt to prevent harm to others.

Veganism is ideology, not science, health, humanitarianism or environmentalism.

>>17798197
I take fiber supplements every day

>>17798211
In-store cheese Replacements don't taste like real cheese.
But if you kind of like funky musky things like blue cheese or fermented foods. I think it's easier to like them.
I do like them in some things.
>The cheddar is always better than the Swiss.
>But really cheap.
>Making at home seem to give the best results.
However doing so does take a lot of ingredients so it's best to buy one ingredient every time you go to the store until you have the stuff to make them on your own.
>Once you have all the ingredients they tend to last a long time though.

>>17798226
Try eating tempeh some time. It's an acquired taste but quite good in some dishes.

>>17798226
It could be a million things that's just the main thing I would know where that is best to throw it out there

>>17798242
My cousin made some cheese sauce and some mozza balls using cashews and it was awesome, unfortunately I can't afford (or be trusted around) cashews

>>17798223
And?
>>17798244
Tempeh rules, I've got this great garlic-thyme recipe I need to make more often

>>17798262
This summer I plan to go out and pick a bunch of acorns and try making them with acorns if I do it I will post it on here a couple times but it won't be till around October in the fall it seems like a much cheaper alternative

>>17797958
>Beyond sausage

Edited image. Those are clearly baby garloids.

>>17798223
Basically this.
Veganism is functionally a religion, not a diet.

>>17798182
I sometimes get the store brand "Peppadew Piquant Pepper Vegetable Burger" patties. They don't work as "fake meat", but they do fill the spot on the plate where meat would have gone.

Drop her. Plants are alive too, and no amount of copium can change that fact. The reality of physical life is that you must consume others in order to survive. She has joined a cult based on an ideal that goes against the laws of nature and it's all downhill from here.

>>17798373
Don’t forget the millions of bacteria you kill anytime you take a shower or brush your teeth.
You aren’t even eating them. They just wash down the drain. You’re ending millions of lives for personal vanity.
Monster.

>>17798158
hahahaha

>>17797991
did you have a fucking stroke while typing that?

>>17797958
>/o/'s opinion on impossible
go ask them how should I fucking know?

>>17798373
>>17798390
You'rr either being willfully obtuse or are pants-on-head retarded if you can't see the difference. Am I vegan/vegetarian? No. But are you going to convince a vegan/vegetarian to switch back to meat by that logic? No, not at all. It's all based around how they anthropomorphize mammals (and sometimes fish and crustaceans), almost no one is inclined to do the same with bacteria and plants.

>>17797958
OP why did you post the shopped version of that pic?

>>17798373
>>17798390
no evidence of sentience

>>17797980
Shes already cheating on you and you enjoy it cuck

>>17798458
>convince a vegan
Did I say convince her?
No, I said drop her. She is lost.
Imagine capitulating to mental illness for pussy.
>>17798464
Evidence of a copium addiction.

>>17797958
Here's my hot take. other then I fucking hate vegans that evangelize about their as mormon missionaries trying to preach their idiotic cultish beliefs. Keep your dietary preferences to yourself and let me live my life in peace.

If you're going vegan. There are some vegan friendly deserts that aren't complete ass. Not having eggs absolutely ruins some recipes to the point you should give up on them entirely. Don't fuck around with the substitutes just find good recipes for lot of indian cooking is vegan friendly. Flat bread and humus is great.

>>17798445
I think so I did correct myself blow

>>17798211
>impossible meat is pretty great
absolute bug eating shit tier standards

>>17797958
It causes blood clotting issues which I've experienced on a clean vegan diet without question caused by the diet and its not uncommon. Doctors are being taught to query this dietary factor when encountering wrong clotting incidents in younger patients.
Tell her to fuck off you are not doing that - and neither is she. That's the truth. Do your nih research and find the clotting docs! There is your lever - it's nasty shit like what the fuck!?!

>>17799294
Don't care, still tasty

>>17799294
Don't care, still tasty

impossible meat is actually pretty good.

>>17797958
They're more wasteful than pasture-raised beef.

>>17798507
This is literally a food board

>>17797980

>>17797980
>Look I am kinda scared that whenever I talk back to her she would start talking with her Facebook Exes again
lol what a cuck

>>17797958
This picture cracked me the fuck up, OP

I really really like this image

>>17799567
I like it too

>>17797958
Just try it, pussy

>people fall for obvious bait/shill threads
Ketoschizo

>>17797980
>larp

mcd will sneakily change all their burgers to contain beans anyway in the future.
I def can see 50/50 mix of a bean and meat patty
Not like you can actually taste the beef under 2000 thousand island dressings anyway

>>17797989
Even if it's not a larp it's a larp.

>>17798211
I find I don't have to use a gay label for my diet. Most of the meat I eat I slaughter myself. The rest comes from wild game hunted by family friends or local small farms.

>>17801985
wow..i want to be you.

>>17802011
I know right want to suck him of so bad

>>17802016
Sorry 4 chan faggots I was born without a penis.

>>17802022
I don't have one either so we would definitely be faggs

>>17797958
Penis shaped.

>>17798120
You're crazy about this bug stuff

>>17798308
Retard

Dont listen to this board. It is full of diehard fast food faggots. If properly prepared the beyond products are good, I made pasta sauce with the beyond meat in it this evening. This is coming from someone who loves bbq and other meats. I just like to switch up my meals. Better try if before you have an opinion about it.

>>17798461
>>17798293
>>17798158
>samefagging THIS hard for a shirry joke
Holy shit dude

>>17802118
That sounds really good

>>17801985
Congrats dude, that's a great way to have a sustainable source of meat protein. Though I'm sure you can agree that our current form of meat production is a travesty and should be reformed, no?

>>17802162
Oh yeah it's definitely keeping at least Americans for free up the land and people would have more fulfilling lives

>>17802172
I think that's the part people miss when it comes to veganism, a large part of it is the criticisms of factory farming but people can't look past our preconceived notions of meat culture to actually analyse how it's produced.

>>17802218
110%
I'm vegan but believe no matter where you are if there is an invasive species you should definitely try to eat it it's the best way to encourage your citizens to get it out of the environment

Anyone else watch dr. Pol as kid and go nope no more meat

>>17802218
Ultimately it can be blamed on the fact that the people in power will never want to pay people a living wage.
shift from Grain products around 1300s 1500s to the rich raising more cattle cuz it was cheaper I'm paying wages.
Eventually the wages went up but they already found out feeding people something like meat was cheaper.
Zoom forwards it's a great way to make sure your population fights with itself less Freeland so you have to continuously buy from someone which is taxable.
All of the governments have spend uoodles of money on smear campaigns (just egg) is scarying the industry right now.
Which caused them to pay money to a bunch of people the push for laws related to name your products.
Paid so much money to make sure people would get angry if something is labelled as (meattt) or ( plant based eggs).
Make sure the top class makes sure mid and bottom classes fight.
Whether you want to eat meat or vegetables so you should just be making sure you grow more of it at home.

>>17802231
>invasive species
do you realize humans can also be considered an "invasive species"

>>17797958
My wife is vegan but she’s cool with me eating meat, she even says she misses it sometimes. We’re bringing her son up on a mainly plant based diet with a little chicken and fish, he can make his own choices when he’s a bit older.
Honestly, it’s not really an issue.

I could take literally any vegan in a fight

>>17802305
Yeah but nothing will ever change that and there's too many of us.
People will never agree debris breed less.
And it's usually the people with lower IQs that breed the most.
This comment is not about race or skin color.

>>17802329
People will never agree to eat less factory farmed meat.
Nothing will ever change that and there's too many of us.

>>17802306
People have to want to change on their own once they're older ,educating children should be a must. As it's pretty obvious no matter where you are I the education system is failing people.
The US style food pyramid is a great example so many companies paid money to make sure we had a bigger section on it.

Yeah my boyfriend eats everything.
I'm vegan.

He said he was thinking about being a vegetarian the other day my head spun so fast instantly more attracted to him( somehow more then I was before)

>>17802321
No you couldn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-kPX7cirNU

>>17802286
Oh absolutely, you can put a majority of the blame for the obesity crisis on people in suits. Just across the board modern meat is worse than its ever been, it's more damaging to the planet, it's of a worse quality, and more importantly its worse for you.

And the worst part is the same people who own all the meat are the ones funding fake meat alternatives so they can justify their constantly growing meat productions with an alternative.

>>17802338
>He said he was thinking about being a vegetarian the other day my head spun so fast instantly more attracted to him( somehow more then I was before)
wow if simply considering that gets your goat your standards must be through the roof

>>17802355
I've already been dating him??? and vs.
Who wouldn't be happy knowing there partner will live longer have less chance of stroke and heart disease I love him and hope he is around long as probable.

>>17802377
:) aww

>>17802352
The fast people live and die the more things you sell and buy more taxes

>>17802355
>gets your goat
Something tells me you don’t actually know what that phrase means.
Retard.

>>17802400
I seen that too but I ain't going to say anything.

>>17802400
based

>>17797958
Tell your wife no

>>17802400
reread what I said
>if considering that bothers you then you must have high standards
meaning if you are dating someone who considers vegetarianism, and that somehow bothers you. you must have too high off dating prerequisites
Retard.

>>17802415
My bad I got dyslexia

>>17802421
it's all good

>>17802425
Yeah face palming ,hope you having a good day though!!

>>17802430
you too. what do i eat today?

>>17802434
I think I'm going to have a Korean "beef"bowl for supper so all suggested that.

>>17802453
ok i will try, thanks.

>>17802152
Because it was very good.

>>17802507
If the tread is still going later let me know how it went.

>>17797958
If you want to make vegetarian or vegan food learn indian cuisine

anything that isn't meat being packaged and sold as meat* is just creepy dystopian garbage that should come with a prison sentence

>>17797980
LMAO

>>17798158
>gaurenteed
illiterate people should be forced to slavery

>>17802162
The best way to reform meat production is to support small farms. Like, actually talk to and get to know small farmers. A lot of big agricultural laws make it very difficult for small farmers to make any money. Veganism is not going to solve that problem as these issues extend to crop production. Look into the book "Everything I want to do is Illegal" by Joel Salatin

I'm also not interested in sustainable farming. Our environment is degraded, why would I want to sustain that? I'm interested in regenerative farming. My livestock are not only sustainable but healing the environment they live on.

>>17802231
Shut the fuck up vegan.

>>17802929
You'll still have massive amounts of land taken up bad for the groundwater

>>17802929
By itself I disagree, you can't fight big meat by supporting local at least on an individual level. If there was a large base of organized people that did that in addition with a campaign against big meat there would be a chance. But of course just getting someone to admit that meat isn't a purely sacred cow is an ordeal on its own.

>>17797980

>>17802961
Oh I definitely have no faith in all of humanity coming together against this. The powerful will always win, but I am just preparing accordingly. The homesteading, foraging, and hunting is for me, not for the money worshipping, drug and sex addicted, city dwelling, fearful
fully domesticated humans.

>>17802943
Ground water is fucked due to large scale ag. Especially tillage and petrochemicals from fertilizers and pesticide. A lot of small farms will rely more on polyculture, which makes less land yield more and also makes it more resistant to pests. Including animals in the mix makes you not rely on artificial fertilizer.

My land uses no artificial fertilizer, I only lightly till for my sweet corn and then never till that spot again, and the only pest deterant I use is a spray that is made of garlic and mint that just makes the plant taste bad to deer.

Every year more wildlife shows up on my land.

This could easily be done in someones backyard.

>>17803029
Op you just ignore this guy he's just up at 9 cuz he's making money off of it himself given enough time and money to become big Corporation he would

>>17803051
Passing seeds down to your children it's a lot easier too/ to great way to pass wealth and quality of life Next Generation

Can't be said enough that livestock gets native animals sick constantly and people

>>17803029
Small farms can definitely affect the groundwater my grandparents kept cattle and eventually they weren't able to drink out of there well

>>17803070
Your grandparents probably didn't rotate the cows pasture properly and kept too many on too small of a space. If they didn't have enough land they should have kept less cattle or opted for smaller ruminants like sheep or goats.

>>17803051
>up at 9
First of all being up at 9 is normal? Second it's not 9 where I am. Why are you writing like a schizoid?

>>17803056
Everything makes everything sick. Crops can also get contaminated and make you sick. Microplastics and medical waste in our water make us way more sick that properly raised livestock but you aren't going to protest that.

^^^Definitely don't listen to anybody that's making money off of the process
Super biased

Cattle and sheep are definitely making things sick in the US and Canada right now.
Crazy health problems off of the meat to.

Groups of people who kill there own meat have high rates of domestic abuse du to being a sensitized from a young age.

>>17803137
I know

>>17803137
You have to be literally the most retarded human being on the planet.

>>17803137
I have known a lot of abusive people and none of them processed their own animals.

>almost got tricked into buying these at the store today
We've been abusing animals forever. The only good reason to stop is because of the climate crisis. They can literally craft anything out of plants in a factory, but they choose to imitate garbage-tier meats.
Guess I'll wait for printed meats, then.

>>17803997
did it actually say "facial expressions not included" on the real packaging

>>17804010
yeah

>>17803997
>The only good reason to stop is because of the climate crisis.
Hate to break it to you but there's no evidence that our animal husbandry is causing that, or even any evidence that we're causing it in the first place.
All they've got are studies showing a correlation between climate and atmospheric composition and studies showing a correlation between atmospheric composition and related emission production from specific industries.
The latter studies do not account for emission production from unrelated nature. Most don't reference any studies that measure that or don't even remember to consider it. Regardless, correlation does not imply causation. And even if that causation could be established, the former studies' correlation does not imply causation.
Have you seen any studies that competently measure literal heat emission indirectly produced by humans, such as from joule heating, AC exhaust, and more? Common sense alone is enough to let you know that also has a positive correlation. Literally nobody can logically assert that specific chemical emissions are THE cause of climate change. To do so is a textbook case of inductive fallacy.