/ck/ - Food & Cooking

For me it's the pear shaped one, eventually i will grab a pot in that shape for ripes.

>>17778854
I wonder how well the hexagonal one brews.

>>17778877
Who knows? A lot of them look like they are just designed to be exports for foreign markets I'm not sure if the designs existed before factory 1 was producing them.

I enjoy an herbal infusion made of ground up coffee beans

>>17779253
You should try roasted chicken bones. Single infusion at 180 F for several hours. Makes a savory tisane.

>>17779268
Some of those chicken soup with medicinal herbs and roots dishes the Chinese make really straddle the line between soup and tea

>>17779268
Oh yes I like using this chicken tisane as the base for my bay leaf tea.
Infuse 1 bay leaf in the pot for 1 second.
Plebs pretend they can't taste the difference.

Is "Junshan Yinzhen" worth it? It's not from the original island obviously, I'm guessing it's a clone of the plants.

>>17778854
>tea thread
>clay pots and rituals
As an American, I'll start the English tea bag thread with gusto and zest.

>>17779385
>https://pastebin.com/80GeeXJV
what brand is your preferred cuppa

What are some types of tea that will make me smarter?

>There's a Big Red Robe and a Little Red Robe
Is there a Medium Red Robe?

>>17778854
PSA: The USD/Japanese yen exchange rate is super good right now so if the website you’re ordering from allows you to change the currency check to see if you can get a better price. For instance, if you change the currency to yen on thes-du-japon.com you can currently save like 37% off of their USD prices

I've been planning to buy some merch from a video game I really like for a while now, it's a tea set sourced from a tea company called Lupicia. Has anyone here ever ordered from there and if so is it any good?

>>17779591
I've ordered their peach oolong tea before and it is great. The only downside is their long delivery time but I've never run into any taste issues with them. Also great taste in games. Who is your favorite house?

>>17778854
I've bought some teapots before and they all have the same issue of dripping or leaking tea onto the ground. Is there a "proper" way to pour to get around this or is it just the design of the teapot which is fucked? Also want to note that I don't spend much on teapots and they're usually just stuff I get from Asian markets

>>17779722
I believe the design is simply fucked up. This company says they needed to add a right-angle corner inside the spout to stop it from dripping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2az4C-TcJSU

>>17779722
you're supposed to pour it really autistically into a chahai like this
https://youtu.be/fmM3G1lO7I8?t=229

>>17779385
On a popular Russian chan they have two separate tea threads, one for black tea and teabags and the other is called the Chinese tea thread.

>>17779451
Big red robe isn't even a varietal either, it's usually a blend of any number of different wuyi oolongs

>>17779848
How many of them drink it like this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chifir

>>17779862
Basically non of them from one i saw, maybe once a thread someone would ask about it and nobody would know any more than what is in the article

>>17779848
What are they drinking in the black tea thread? Any loose leaf stuff?

>>17779915
Half teabags, half this ahmed brand of loose leaf that is in many stores in Russia. Half the posts are asking if the ahmed tea is any good or not, it's not a very active thread

You seriously can't be telling me that you're spending premium money for a product that basically tastes the same as this, right anon?

>>17780248
>premium money

Tell me about Darjeeling

>>17780598
damn good

>>17780598
I don't really get the appeal of first flush, second flush is pretty good. The fancy stuff is generally worth it, but it's not my favorite tea at that price point. Castleton and Lopchu muscatel is good, other than that, I prefer the higher altitude Darjeeling, like Margaret's Hope and whatever else. I don't really know anything about first and autumn flush.

I don't drink any of my teas anymore.
Is it time to get into coffee?

>>17781018
Why not? But also, you might need to try another type of tea. I lost interest in general after a life of being a purist autist and someone gifted me a set of flavored teas, they're quite good and I've drank more tea this year for sure.

>>17778854
ys pack arrivef

>>17781135
nice man, i've been wanting to try out fresh first flush red teas but i think im just gonna buy the stuff farmer leaf is working on for now. Have you tried any of those yet?

I'm a long time black tea drinker with occasional green tea consumption. Admittedly, I just drink way too much of this stuff on a daily basis. I always want to be drinking something warm through the entire day.
I have to cut back though, as I'm convinced all the caffeine has damaged my health (my doctor thinks so too). So now I'm looking at caffeine-free tea options. I'm really interested in ginger tea, but specifically I want instant stuff because I know I'm going to be drinking like 15 cups a day of this stuff - making it from scratch isn't impossible for me, it's just impractical.
Does anyone have any brand suggestions?

>>17781991
drink a bunch of different herb teas and you will be doing good for your health

>>17781991
>I have to cut back though, as I'm convinced all the caffeine has damaged my health (my doctor thinks so too)
How exactly did this happen?

Hello /ck/. What's the best intro tea for your health and enjoyment?
I drink pic related and a friend game me a nice korean matcha too.
What's best? ground leaves bagged? large leaves loose? matcha? organic??

>>17782021
I like green tea and peppermint, brewed cold overnight.

Loose leaf tea is going to be higher quality than the bagged tea, but if there's a bagged tea you enjoy, there's nothing wrong with that either.

>>17781996
>>17782000
I'm otherwise healthy but the great amount of caffeine I'm consuming has been affecting my bone density, giving me a tremor, and affecting my focus. I'm entering my thirties now and I've been consuming multiple cups of black tea every day (like 900+ mg) since I was around 13 when my grandmother introduced it to me.
Whenever I was away from home for a few days or a week without tea, the craving was there but I stopped shaking and my focus was significantly better.

I've tried multiple times to quit, but I realized the craving isn't for caffeine, it's just for a warm drink. (Prior to my grandmother introducing the devil's drink to me, I was basically addicted to warm milk and, very briefly, boiled Dr. Pepper.) I managed to quit for a month once and drank only hand-soups and was very happy. But for the amount I want to be drinking it's just too expensive and all the salt probably isn't any better. Hot water alone is too boring (even with added honey or lemon) and green tea also has caffeine in it, so I figure ginger should be good since I like that flavor already and there won't be caffeine in it.

So now I'm here asking fellow tea drinkers if any of them would want to recommend me a ginger brand. Thanks for reading my blog post.

>>17782305
>boiled Dr. Pepper
Excuse me?

>>17781135
Nice haul, did they throw in that puer as a sample? Trying to get you hooked

>>17782305
>I'm otherwise healthy but the great amount of caffeine I'm consuming has been affecting my bone density, giving me a tremor, and affecting my focus.
If you drink i shitload of cheap black teabags, and it sounds like you did you probably have fluoride poisoning that affects your bone density, tell you doc that cheap teabags are full of heavy metals and see if he will do a few blood tests to look for it.

>Mom found the puer storehouse

>>17782305
You need to be careful with those instant ginger tea powders because many of them contain carrageen which will cause it's own host of problems if you consume it in excess regularly.
Celestial seasonings tea is pretty good, their ginger lemon is the best of their ginger teas.
Probably not what you want to hear but i suggest buying ginger by the pound and then brewing the powder or chopped up ginger on it own
https://mountainroseherbs.com/ginger-root
And the one time just using a teaball is fine
https://mountainroseherbs.com/mesh-teaspoon

>>17778854
Wider > taller for pots

>>17782615
>at least the tea drawer is sacred
>>17782339
>I managed to quit for a month once and drank only hand-soups and was very happy.

>>17783112
How wide will you go?

>>17783277
You are like a little baby.
Watch this.

Why are shiboridashis associated with gyokuro? I tried one once. The lack of filter and finer cut meant that leaves slipped out constantly, and their tendency to pile meant they got stuck to the edge and lid. Meanwhile I thought larger cut Chinese greens did very well. Maybe there's some technique for them I didn't figure out while I was playing with it.

There is no greater satisfaction in this hobby than getting a boring tea then salvaging it by blending other teas into it.

>>17783351
I have one and suffer all those same issues you pointed out. My solution is to pour it through a sieve. Since I'm pouring it through a sieve I can leave a wider gap to overcome the blockage.
It would be nice to have a built-in solution but only some larger side handle kyusu have steel mesh embedded on the inside. In retrospect, I regret buying it instead of a kyusu.

I am looking to buy a new gaiwan, either ceramic or porcelain, i checked the pastebin but cant find very many options for them, all the sites are focused on yixing teapots instead (are yixing gaiwans any good btw? i feel like the constant grinding of the lid and cup would destroy it fast).
Im looking for something with a pretty crazing glaze and like max 50 dollars maybe. Also is there a europe store that sells them or do i stick to buying straight from china?

>>17782339
Boiled Dr. Pepper was a real marketing gimmick that my family tried one Christmas for a laugh but I unironically loved it. It's my deep dark secret.

>>17782598
Hmm okay. Wouldn't hurt to look into, though I've had many blood tests done over the years and they were never concerned there.

>>17782639
Thanks I'll keep this in mind about the carrageen. I'll look into brewing the powder too. That's ideally what I want because I can probably get more out of it than I can simmering fresh root, but I have to manage my budget these days.

Hmmmmmm.... today I will purchase some da fo longjing...

>>17783547
Standard blood tests don't look for heavy metals, they only do those tests if they suspect something like lead poisoning, you kind of have to convince the doc because they are skeptical since its such a rare issue.
Here is a. Article about a documented case in the USA
https://www.medicaldaily.com/too-much-tea-overdose-leads-skeletal-fluorosis-rare-bone-disease-244716

>>17783526
you want a glazed gaiwan, keep the unglazed autism to teapots. for crazy crazing go for a thicker gaiwan. i have the raindrop from ys i think it was around £15. you can try ebay or amazon, my other gaiwan was from ebay

>>17783526
>are yixing gaiwans any good btw?
Mostly a meme, buy cheap white porcelain gaiwans off of aliexpress.
100ml to 130ml. No bigger
I like cheap ones in this style
https://aliexpress.com/item/4000766008390.html
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005004148466243.html
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005002932321577.html
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003367569641.html
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005002932321577.html

I'll be doing a tea haul tomorrow
What should I buy? I thought of the honeybush rooibos, milk oolong and something else
Any recommendations?

>>17783699
Thats really pretty, i was looking for a glaze similar to that but ys shipping is way too expensive for europe, ill keep looking around. that crack mustve sucked though
>>17783712
I already have a cheap 100ml porcelain gaiwan but the lid dosent fit that well which is why i want to buy a new one, ill keep using a 100ml one since its comfy

>>17783840
yeah dropped the lid on it 2 months after it arrived during a really cold February.

>>17783683
>>17783547

Fluoride isn't a metal, let alone a heavy metal, but regardless it's worth getting a test for it. I'd also recommend taking iodine regularly just to be proactive, since it seems to increase the rate of excretion of fluoride from the body and it's an essential nutrient most of us don't get enough of anyway.

>>17781816
yeah i've sampled most of them already. looks like mao xie oolong, mao feng green, yun wi green, and black gold bi lo chun are the winners so far. the black teas all taste similar; heavy malty yam flavor with rich sweet taste and notes of milk chocolate, however black gold seems to be the winner due to it's more robust taste and less obvious sweetness tastes more like tea (although they're all good, just make sure to use very hot water and they won't taste too strongly of sweet potato). the purple buds looked interesting but they lack flavor, might not be brewing right but i'm not a big fan. the bilochun was not bitter like some anon has been saying but lacks flavor, tastes ok but flat and nothing interesting. the mao xie was very good, also great mineral smell which i'm hoping will come out into the infusion more when i try brewing it different. yun wu tastes like this laoshan green i tried from verdant teas with a nice buttery flavor and astringency without bitterness. i forgot how the mao feng tastes but i know it was good

>>17783840
Yeah finding ones where the lid fits well can be tricky, this one with the wode flaired rim should work well.
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003367569641.html
If you want a more fancy one mud and leaves have some that aren't crazy expensive (and a bunch that are)

>>17783767
A roasted oolong, or a osmanthus flavored oolong, or some kiand of dian hong chinese black tea
Or maybe a pouch of this while it's still on sale
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2020-taiwan-sun-moon-lake-black-tea-floral-and-fruity-flavor-top-quality-chinese-health-tea-75g-p0707.html

>>17783895
>the purple buds looked interesting but they lack flavor
Supposedly you should drink them pretty fast after harvest i was hoping some of the comments about it being weak was from people who kept it around too long.
how have you tried brewing them? you might need to mess around with overleafing or really low temps or maybe even cold brewing.

>>17783353
pill me on this. do you mix the same type of teas with eachother or mix oolongs with blacks for example?

>>17783923
like white tea but i left them in the water a long time, i'll try cold brew next

>>17783990
Not that anon, but white2tea has a black/white mixture called "hot brandy" which seems well-received. If a tea is bad there's no saving it, but if you don't like a tea because it is one-note, lacking complexity, then blending with a tea that has a complementary flavor can make some interesting results. Mixing oolong with anything seems weird to me though.

update: tried the red ai lao mountain tea and it's very nice, full mouthfeel and fruity like the description said ("hints of dried longan fruit" which seems accurate, i don't know what that tastes like but google says it's similar to lychee). probably the only one out of the shipment i got that i'm excited to try iced

I kinda want to blend some teas.
I actually should, because I have more green tea than I will ever drink and if I waste some with shitty experimental blends it's fine.

>>17784337
Sounds good anon

>>17784342
Part of the appeal is it exponentially increases the novelty of your tea collection. Instead of drinking the same five teas you can endlessly combine them. If you stick to the same color of tea it's unlikely it'll be totally fucked up. The way I do it is with a cup on a digital scale that I fill up with X grams of tea, but let my whims decide how many different bags to include. That way there's no commitment beyond one cup.

>>17784342
i like mixing black teas. currently i have a blueberry flavored black tea, a cheap smoky lapsang souchong, and an earl grey i use for blending with each other and more traditional tasting black teas, great for iced tea. i also like mixing pretty much any tea other than ripe puerh/other dark teas, medium-heavy roasted oolongs, and black tea, and roasting over a stovetop to create hojicha blends. you can make great low caffeine tea that's perfect for nighttime sipping with very inexpensive greens, whites, green oolongs, and raw puerh.

>>17784462
I don't drink black tea because blacks are inferior.
Well, that and I just don't like the malty profile. Maybe I should be trying more expensive estate teas and trying to find the natural fruit flavors.

>>17784486
try unsmoked lapsang souchong

>>17784512
I actually have some smoked stuff (Russian Caravan) and I don't hate it, I just don't like this bland as fuck Ceylon I bought which has reinforced my bias that black tea is just fucking bland and flavorless. It literally tastes the same as bagged tea, I wish I could say it was a richer and more full-bodied bagged tea but it's literally just bagged tea but less convenient.

>>17782305
buy you some hibiscus at your local mexican supermarket

chamomile and chrysanthemum flowers are also really nice herbals

i don't think any dry ginger would really stand up to the fresh stuff, which is in pretty much every supermarket in amerikkka. pro tip is you can skin it with a spoon rather than with a knife. then slice it thin and steep it.

>>17784541
Second flush Darjeeling is pretty different from bog standard black tea, some Chinese blacks are pretty fruity and not auper malty. But don't feel like you need to try them, plenty of tea out there to drink

can someone recommend me tea that takes 0 effort to brew? like all i have to do is boil the water, and pour it over the tea. i really love mengku black (big snow from ys) but it's out of stock.

>>17784752
That's how i drink all my ripe puer
Rip hunk off put in mug pour boiling water over it, bam, usually you refill with more boiling water when you drink halfway down, that's it
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2015-yr-taetea-puerh-yuan-high-quality-dayi-shu-ripe-puer-tea-357-g-pc82-aged-puerh-best-organic-tea-p0153.html

>>17784752
These are both great lazily brewed in a mug. Lesser evils is def better but I'm not sure if its quite $13 a cake better.
https://white2tea.com/collections/latest-additions/products/2021-hokum
https://white2tea.com/collections/latest-additions/products/2021-lesser-evils

What are the top tier non-caffeinated or ultra low caffeine teas?

>>17785089
Non caffeinated
Anything herbal, chamomile, mint, most of the boxes herbal stuff at the grocery store, the herbal teas from mountain rose herbs if you want the nice stuff
Low caffeine
Hojicha - roasted stems from Japanese teas.

>>17783302
I'm sorry, you'll never surpass me

>>17784752
like every black ever

>>17782021
If you're drinking for health, you want matcha powder, because you're literally consuming the entire tea leaf instead of just the extracted liquid. Remember that it's supposed to be 175F water too, otherwise it tastes like SHIT. Also remember that it has a lot more caffeine than normal tea, so drink fewer cups overall. If you need to swill tea all day long go for matcha just once or twice and then regular brewed tea for the rest.

>>17785192
Why is he so tall?

>>17782021
>>17785214
Tea is bad for you

picked up a teapot of this style from my local shop recently. i love being able to see the tea as it brews. my only issue with it so far is that the filter is not fine enough. anyone ever use this kind of teapot? if so do you use it in conjunction with a strainer, or is there another method of the leaves out of the cup?

>>17785750
The heat from the coil brews the tea.

Confess.

>>17783990
I have had great success mixing different oolongs from old ways tea, to the point where I find the combinations are better than either of the teas by themselves. The range of oxidation and preparation gives such a nice complexity and full body to the tea.

I wanna order some green tea but im utterly overwhelmed at the choice range and deep hobby terminology. For the matter, i drink a ton of jasmine tea so i'd like to branch out to other types.
I'll be saving puer for later trying. Any personal recommendations? I'll be getting some matcha as well in spite of how surprisingly expensive it is

>>17785750
Get a piece of stainless steel mesh on eBay and fit it onto the springy thing

>>17786461
Japanese or chinese?
If Japanese, get sencha, make sure its from spring 2022, if you get a choice you want lightly steamed.
I would suggest getting it from one of the vendors in the pastebin, especially if you want to get matcha too.
It's going to taste like savory vegetables / seaweed soup to some extent, that's just the way Japanese tea is.

>>17786461
>deep hobby terminology
you can use https://babelcarp.org/babelcarp/ to translate most chinese tea words, i dont think theres anything similar for japanese though.

>>17786461
Xinyang Maojian. The stuff I have is very finnicky and is easy to brew kinda bitter, but I find it's a potent anti-histamine and clears up hay fever. YMMV, especially if you are a normal human being.
Dragonwell/Longjing is good, but generally expensive.
Gunpowder/Chun Mee are both good budget options but also relatively strong teas that once again need careful brewing or they end up being awful.
For Japanese teas it's not really that complicated, it's just in Japanese.
Mushi refers to steaming levels, Asa is "Light" Chu is "normal" and Fuka is "deep" (I personally recommend Fuka, nice smooth rich finish)
Sencha is your standard, good quality tea. Bancha is cheaper but still drinkable, it's basically everything that isn't quite good enough to be Sencha.

What's the cheapest shincha that's worth trying?

>>17785750
I have a very similar tea pot, works ok except for Japanese tea.

>>17787466
Just pick one,
https://www.o-cha.com/shincha/

>>17778854
bottom left has that steampunk vibe
good for pouring moonshine from it

>>17783911
I bought some red oolong, rooibos and keemun

>>17779713
Blue lions. Dimitri is cute and I want to give him a big hug.

>>17788064
Nice, try doing a really short (90 second) brew with thr roiboos and see if you like the taste compared to a 4-5 minute brew. I thought shorter brews were sweeter

My crimson lotus order arrive. Got the Shengs love potion and vibe and the shou Nevermore.

I am really excited to try vibe, as the second I freed the cake from the packaging, I could smell it through its wrapper. Smells like plums, very sweet. Love potion has a dry bitter smell, maybe even acidic. And Nevermore smells of rich and potent shou, just like I like

I'll give tastings of each when I get around to breaking them in. Since I also got some new oolong and tibetian flame I need to take on their first session, as well.

Anyone here know how to brew it gongfu? I'm think I'll approach it like a Shou.

>>17788648
Tibetan flame? Is it one of those old xiaguan bricks? Break it up into a few pieces, don't just put one giant one in your gaiwan, keep an eye for when the hunks start to open up and keep those brews while the hunks are opening really short (10 seconds or less) make sure you eat something before brewing it, otherwise it's basically just cheap puer. You can also simmer a litre of water, add about 5 g of tea and continue to simmer for 10 minutes, then strain into some kind of serving pitcher or teapot or a nice insulated bottle

Do you ever burn incense with tea? How much does it add to the experience?

Chinese tea fans be like
>This puer brick cost $2000 and it tastes like my couch
Japanese tea fans be like
>I just got 2 grams of low grade shincha gyokuro matcha for $500, it tastes like spinach boiled in salt water

>>17788758
Yeah all the time, i suggest getting light Japanese incense sticks.
Either the aloeswood or sandalwood made by Minorien Fu-in are my easiest recommendations, stay away from the indian incense that has the little stick in the middle, those are usually sprayed with a bunch of fragrance oils.
I like more potent Japanese or Tibetan incense but if it's too strong it takes away from the experience of the tea.
In the USA there is
https://www.japanincense.com/
And for Tibetan incense there is this place in Canada that carries the good stuff.
https://incense-traditions.ca/
Here are a few milder Tibetan ones to try as an introduction, but be warned they are generally intense.
https://incense-traditions.ca/shop/tibet/tibetan-therapeutic-and-relaxation-incense/holy-land-incense/
https://incense-traditions.ca/shop/tibet/zurkhar-herbal-incense/

>>17789001
Interesting. Now I need to look up flower arranging so I can reach the maximum power level.

>>17785279
Sauce?

>drink 5g of black tea every day for the last few months
>front teeth on top and bottom are pretty badly stained and look like shit now
This sucks, I prefer black tea in the morning but it is really starting to accumulate. Think I'm gonna stick to greens and whites for a while.

>>17789025
Cant help you there, im also not actually versed in any of the pomp and circumstance of any of the tea ceremonies. I just happen to be into incense and think it can be a good combo as long as you don't burn anything too stinky.

>>17789102
Just brush your teeth, you mong, it doesn't stain if you brush your teeth

>>17789143
That's simply not true.

>>17789146
It is.

>>17789217
Then why are my teeth stained despite diligently brushing my teeth?

>>17789247
Did you brush right after the session? Or did you wait till later? Think of your teeth like teaware, if you leave it to settle, it will stain. Also, you may simply be not brushing in an effective manner. The spit off should by colored, that's a good indicator if you're brushing your teeth right, after drinking tea

>>17789269
I do, but a session can be a few hours long which gives it time to "settle." I could probably eat something crunchy halfway through a session to mitigate some of the impact, or drink 1 western style mug and call it quits, but for the time being I'd rather not take any chances. I use an electric toothbrush, to be clear.

>>17789332
Its probably the electric toothbrush then. They're too gentle, and thus not effective. . I do hour long sessions as well, but use a standard toothbrush and the only time my teeth stain is when I skip brushing my teeth

Try out one with medium bristles, rather than soft, if you can.

>>17788758
I've got a few hundred sticks of various shoyeido sitting around.
>>17789247
Do you use shitty toothpaste?
>>17789348
>They're too gentle, and thus not effective.
Are you buying shitty electric toothbrushes? Stop buying yixing and get an oral b 8000 instead.

>>17789464
I don't use electric toothbrushes, they're crap and encourage bad brushing habits

>>17789493
You say this, based on your poor brushing habits and bad purchases.

>>17789464
Where'd you buy incense? I'm a cheap prick so if you have good deals on some JP Incense I wouldn't mind picking some up.

>>17789533
No, because anyone who uses an electric just hold its in place and barely cleans their teeth. They're for the lazy.

>>17789538
Scamazon homie. For cheap daily shit, I really like these. Kyoto autumn leaves is way less "perfumey" I guess than the kyoto sakura. Hoyei-KOH is also great and cheap. That brand also has extremely expensive shit I haven't gotten the urge to try. I don't immerse myself too much in nip culture but those $22 sticks are probably what you'd burn at a funeral?
https://www.amazon.com/Shoyeidos-Autumn-Leaves-Incense-sticks/dp/B002H0S9AO
https://www.shoyeido.com/product/enlightenment

>>17789572
Turns out when you don't cheap out the brush usually has a pressure sensor. Are you also buying cheap toothpaste?

>>17789602
I'm not the guy with the stained teeth, retard. And nah, I buy nice toothpaste. With the money I save not buying gimmicks like fucking electrical toothbrushes. They cost more to do the same work as a nice, sturdy brush.

>>17789608
And by that, I of course mean you have to pay out the ass to get one that's even close to JUST BRUSHING YOUR TEETH. I swear, most people haven't left childhood in terms of dental care.

Hi /tea/, I don't drink tea much besides Arizona. Do you have any recommendations for a nice pot and interesting looking oolong I can overpay for, use once, and then never again

>>17789625
Get anything Yixing. That way you'll have a pretty paper weight at least

>>17789615
Why do you think a $200 toothbrush is paying out the ass? My qtpie dentist compliments my brushing habits every time I stop by. Do you also not have a waterpik?
> I buy nice toothpaste.
Define nice. There's a big difference between crest 3d white and apagard royal.

>>17789102
Don't do it. I've seen real life Asians before and their teeth turn grey from all the green tea.

>>17789659
Cause you get the same results with a normal brush? Electric toothbrushes are a scam, that you bought into like a hog into its trough.

>>17789659
>The consumerist shrieks as its frivolous spending habits are insulted

Also your dentist is a 100% complimenting your teeth just because you floss, even if you overpaid for that with another gadget that can be replaced with a piece of string

>>17789675
Spoken like someone who hasn't "paid out the ass" for a toothbrush. You'll grow up one day. I left my last one in a hotel in Shreveport , Louisiana and made them find it and mail it back. Thank god for usps collect on delivery.

>>17789697
Spoken like a true manchild who thinks technology makes him a man

>>17789696
Keep at it. You too can be a tea vampire one day.

>>17789697
You spent money to get a machine to do a worse job at brushing your teeth, and spent more to make it just passable at that. That isn't something to brag about, that's something to be ashamed off.

>>17789702

Remember:
>I am not at all interested in immortality, only the taste of tea

>>17789720
Posting that pic of yourself just prove my point. Look how fucking messy that room is.

>>17789718
>hygiene on my 4chan? say it ain't so!
I also spend a bit more so I don't have to use speedstick either.

>>17789720
If that was an attempt to prove that faggot wrong, you failed miserably. That whole room screams "Failed adult"

>>17789734
Thats liquidproust moron.

>>17789720
>Berserk, AoT, Tokyo Ghoul, Soul eater. Anime figures, and a bunch of trash in front of a fireplace in a room with no decoration

>>17789746
Suuuure it is.

>>17789722
Based

>when thr lesbians get into the puer
Calm down ladies, no need for violence

>>17789767
Lesbians don't brush, they let their teeth brown from the puerh so they can intimidate rival alpha tea dykes by displaying them

Common knowledge

>>17789750
Look at all the extra money he has for knickknacks and tea since he buys equate toothbrushes 6 to a pack.
>Equate:We almost get the job done

the most alpha tea dyke in a region will seize control of the local tea shop to control the flow of puer into the area

>>17789771
Lmao, you spent two hundred bucks on a fancy gadget that can ONLY replicate the effectiveness of normal toothbrush

>>17789779
Yeah, that's how they reproduce

>He doesn't brew his tea in his hands

>>17789794
>he doesn't brew his tea in boobs
>[Biluochun]'s original name is Xia Sha Ren Xiang (嚇煞人香, "scary fragrance"). Legend tells of its discovery by a tea picker who ran out of space in her basket and put the tea between her breasts instead. The tea, warmed by her body heat, emitted a strong aroma that surprised the girl.

>>17789784
You are the teabag drinker arguing that spending money on loose leaf is a waste.

>>17789803
That's interesting. Need to pick up some of that tea.

Tried the Jasmine Silver Needles White Tea of Yunnan from YunnanSourcing. The flavor is good, but much too mild. I find myself filling a quarter of a teapot to get anything out of it. Probably wouldn't order it again.

>>17789807
Good tea is worth the money. A two hundred dollar vibrator that costs that much to match something that costs five to ten bucks most certainly isn't.

>>17789824
You have zero frame of reference. Lipton was fine for years.

>>17789807
>>17789832
>Has to completely change the argument to even have a chance to defend himself

Electric toothbrushes are a scam, its okay to be tricked into wasting money on something. Its part of the process of growing up. Good toothpaste is worth it, but an electric toothbrush? Never.

>>17789832
No, you're just blinded by the money you spent. And lipton was never good. Let me put it this way, Its easier to convince someone that a tea was worth the price you paid by taste alone, even if they aren't a drinker/ puerh lesbian.

Try doing the same with an electric toothbrush to someone who isn't your dentist

>>17789838
I thought sitting on a kitchen stool for hours was fine until I got an aeron and atlas. Pinch some pennies. Your teeth are worth it. Those are luxury bones, treat them as such. I plan on swapping the battery out of this one after 5 years, just like I did with the one I bought in 2012.

>>17789819
If you want a potent Jasmine flavored white, pick up the Jasmine white from Verdant tea. It is filled with flowers and the flavor is incredible even beneath the jasmine

>>17789847
Not that anon, but it's pretty clear based on physical sensation that an electric toothbrush is different from a regular toothbrush. I don't know if it leads to better actual dental health outcomes but even a mid-range brush is going to provide a lot more stimulation to the gums, which is easy to notice.

>>17789847
>Try doing the same with an electric toothbrush to someone who isn't your dentist
Usually happens after a single use.

>>17789851
Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that a two hundred dollar electric toothbrush does the same job as a regular one, and most damningly just as well. Not better. Just as well.

>>17789853
Sensation has nothing to do with cleanliness or the health of your teeth. It may feel more pleasant to the user, but some people like CBT.

>>17789860
Not him, but they're doing that so as not to hurt your feelings. People do it with anything expensive offered to them. Also, do you let other people use your two hundred dollar toothbrush? I wouldn't even let someone else use a disposable I picked up for a trip cause I forgot to pack.

that's worse than spending the money for it, that's just nasty bro.

>>17789851
And you can treat them as such, with a normal toothbrush and good toothpaste. You just need to actually brush your teeth, and if you think coughing up a few hundred bucks to avoid that petty effort is worth the price...

>>17789853
That's why kids usually use electrics and have terrible teeth. They enjoy the vibrations and also, since their parents got them the electric so they'd just brush their teeth, they just press it to their teeth for a few seconds.

>>17789860
Please tell me, you did not spend that much money on a toothbrush, just to share it with other people. That's gross. Mouths are the filthiest part of the human body besides the asshole

>>17789803
The choice for the distinguished Sapphic tea slurper

>>17789853
Its noticeable. You don't really realize what your teeth actually feel like until you polish them vs brush them. That "squeaky clean" feeling you get after your dentist uses the polishing cup? You can get it 3x a day.
>>17789868
>Also, do you let other people use your two hundred dollar toothbrush?
In a pinch and I have an unopened brush head? Of course. Are you under the impression its a $200 disposable unit?
https://oralb.com/en-us/products/replacement-brush-heads/3d-white-replacement-electric-toothbrush-heads/
Are you guys so autistic you think I'm randomly offering toothbrushes and prompting for feedback?

>>17789874
This just screams lower middle class white upbringing. Break out of your shell.

>>17789885
For 22 dollars? And no, I presented that as an example you autist. Since you brought up teabags in a pathetic attempt to defend your purchase

>>17789888
You really can't defend your purchase at all, can you?

I literally do not brush my teeth. I went 9 months without brushing my teeth, went to my dentist for a routine check and cleaning and my dentist told me I had no cavities and only slightly above average plaque on my teeth. He cleaned them off and now it's been 6 months since I last brushed them. Little to no tea staining. I am simply built different.

>>17789885
Man, you've spent a lot of money on a toothbrush to be smug over? You really have nothing else to be proud, do you?

>>17789888
>I waste money! Bet that makes you feel Poor!

>>17789897
nah, you're just confident

>>17789889
Its a 4 pack. Savvy shopper like you will just buy the lower quality knockoffs in bulk though huh?
>giving $5 toothbrush to a friend who forgot to pack one will bankrupt me

>>17789897
My problem is gaps and a bunch of wisdom teeth I'm too scared to have pulled. A friend of mine used to have so bad wisdom teeth he couldn't eat anything without tasting metal. And he had to drink and smoke a lot to deal with the pain.

That's when I'd get the teeth pulled out, when they star affecting my tea drinking. Which they don't. All they do is make me have to work the back of my mouth a little longer with a brush

>>17789907
Your entire identity revolves around overpaying for toothbrushes, huh? Man, that's just sad.

/tea/ - dental health

>>17789902
>Anything I can't afford is a smug waste of money
You should take some pride in your appearance.

>>17789907
Its obvious you're actually upset with how aggressive you are defending your lifestyle. Find something else to pride yourself on besides fancy gadgets that do the work of a toothbrush, or an actual stick as the aborigines of australia showed us.

They used to pull sticks on their teeth to clean them, and they were flawless until the Br*tsh introduced them to sugar.

>>17789920
I mean it makes sense, if something goes wrong with your teeth, it can effect your sense of taste.

this is why /ctg/ will always be better than us

>>17789931
Oh I could. But I realize its a fucking waste of money, that can be better spent elsewhere. I brush my teeth after every meal AND snack and shower just as much.

You're just desperately grasping for straws, cause you really have no argument to justify spending that much on a toothbrush

>>17789933
Look man if you want to rub sticks on your teeth like the aboriggers be my guest. Or you know, pay $80 on oral b and get a pro 7000. No complaints for years. No splinters etc.

>>17789907
>>17789931
>>17789946

>You're poor cause you don't buy bullshit

Spoken like a true sheep.

this guy really cited abo's as a source lmao

>>17789943
>no argument to justify spending that much on a toothbrush
https://www.cochrane.org/CD002281/ORAL_poweredelectric-toothbrushes-compared-to-manual-toothbrushes-for-maintaining-oral-health
>Authors' conclusions:
Powered toothbrushes reduce plaque and gingivitis more than manual toothbrushing in the short and long term. The clinical importance of these findings remains unclear.

>>17789946
No reason to buy something for that much, when its mundane counterparts do the job better unless you spend even more. And then it JUST matches it.

That's not being thrifty, health conscious or wealthy. its being a jackass

>>17789958
You know they get paid to write those right? also > The clinical importance of these findings remains unclear

Is a real red flag against that article

>>17789968
Yeah, most people who use either die long before their teeth rot away their brain. Keep at it stinkanon. We salute you.

>>17789958
>Small group of participants. Only 11%
that'd be more damning if they forced them to brush a certain way with both types of brushes and only used one movement mode of electric. Really, that seems like a lazy ass study to me and the way it was carried out is a seedbed for variables.

you now remember this thread is for discussing teas, tissanes, and other herbal infusions.

>>17789979
Still resorting to insults cause you just can't justify your purchase, eh? Must've really grinded your gears, realizing you overspent and are being laughed at for it.

And, before you go calling anyone poor again, I could afford that brush. I just have the sense not to.

>>17789979
You know its not normal to throw a fit over something like toothbrushes right?

>>17789989
Yeah but pocking the autist is fun

>>17789989
I'm drinking hairy crab. Really refreshing. Has some notes of butter and a brightness I want to call citrus. Spinachy

Ima be honest. I think buying a Yixing pot is a waste, when you can only brew one type of tea in it. A gaiwan or glazed pot will get more use and will require less care, and for the same price of having enough Yixings for every type of tea, you can afford a silver pot.

I just don't see the point in owning one or several, beside flexing

>>17790023
>when you can only brew one type of tea in it.
What exactly is meant when people say this? Like, would you have a pot for just green tea, or would it JUST be for longjing, and you'd have to buy a new one for a different green tea?

>>17790003
>throw a fit
>suggest a good product to an anon who is suffering staining
You're arguing that something you haven't tried isn't worth it. I'm saying its bretty gud based on my experience, and those around me who have given unprompted feedback based on minimal use.
>>17789996
>are being laughed at for it
Trust me pal, this is the only place you can flex with poor hygiene. The board full of piss bottles, cum jars, and nearly getting your teeth clean.

>>17790031
Well, some lunatics do devout each pot to a specific region/ style of tea, the majority just devout a pot to one type of tea, like one for oolong or one for greens.

The idea is that the Yixing is porous, so it absorbs the flavor of tea you brew in it after many sessions, and eventually improve/ heighten the flavor, allegedly. And that if you brew the wrong type in it, the sessions flavor will be ruined and the pot may need to be "re-seasoned"

>>17790037
It really isn't worth it, and just by the fact you've spent hours you've spent trying to defend it and having an autistic breakdown over that fact, proves you're doing all you can to not suffer incredible buyers remorse

>>17790059
>incredible buyers remorse
I'm so remorseful I replaced the pro6000 from 2013 with the pro8000 in 2020 kek. Keep at it, one of these will stick.

>>17790037
It isn't good advice to push someone to buy an overpriced piece of shit when the problem can be solved for a pittance of the price and diligence.

And that isn't a sign of being poor, its just common sense. Sorry you had to be mocked by internet retards to realize the true worth of your expensive toothbrush, was that it was expensive so you can show it off, like most fancy gadgets on the market, its the price that makes them valuable despite the fact they do the same job as their mundane counterpart or even do it worse. Its a marketing trick. Which is awesome to watch fail, like the juicero or that one salt dispenser that needed an app.

>>17790075
I mean, considering you're still at this means you're >Merely pretending, or that you're actually offended for your toothbrush and all of the insults and mockery have stuck deep.

Not sure which would be more pathetic. I'm sticking around cause I like to make autists like you have a meltdown while drinking tea, its good entertainment.

>>17790075
I hope you don't think owning an overpriced toothbrush makes you cool, anon, that would be beyond nerdy. Like, say, obsessing over chinese teas. But who would do that?

>>17790083
>Which is awesome to watch fail, like the juicero or that one salt dispenser that needed an app.
Yeah I'm sure Procter & Gamble will fold any day now.
>>17790099
What do you mean still at it? You can lead a horse to water etc etc. I'm sipping lct and watching boondock saints.

I'm finally able to see the "hair" in hairy crab. this glass Cha Hai was a good purchase. Can barely see it in my tea cup,

>>17790120
Pretending not to be upset, just makes you look more fanny flustered, ya know? And won't change the fact you spent hours angrily defending an overpriced toothbrush online.

>>17790120
Not implying they will, just pointing out its great when scams fail. Electric toothbrushes never will run out of style, cause rubes like you will buy them thinking they somehow, magically work better because they cost more and get an ego boost when family and friends compliment them so they don't think they wasted money on a fancy toy.

And you know, so long as they're reasonably priced, they have a niche. For children or people with disabilities. So they serve a purpose unlike most other things. Shit, there's even normal toothbrushes that cost as much as your 200 dollar one, and that's more outrageous to me.

You can only improve a toothbrush so much, ya know?

>>17790137
>angrily defending
tists usually have trouble discerning emotion in text. Just keep sipping your tea.
>>17790159
Looks like I actually bought the pro 5000 in feb 2013 for $100, swapped in a new battery for $4 in 2016 and replaced it for another $200 in 2020. We're talking about an extra $2.70 a month for cleaner teeth? Well worth. Something something boots theory.

>>17790222
You aren't fooling anyone. Also, that's still overpaying, since you get the same results and health from standard toobrushes, a proper regime and non cheapo toothpaste.
keep coping though, and stay mad.

>>17790222
That just proves my point you are paying for the price point alone. It's like all luxury versions of goods, at a certain point, the increase in effectiveness and durability reaches a plateau and you're only paying to to pay more.

And for toothbrushes, effectiveness is really low, and mostly depends on frequency of brushing, duration of brushing, and technique. Sure, durability raises a fair bit higher, but again, that just extends the life of a tool that can't be improved. Really, the selling point of a toothbrush is the bristles, the strength and rigidity. Too soft, and they won't brush effectively. They need to scrub.

Which is a problem electric toothbrushes, especially expensive ones, try and fill by the movement. It is also a problem for cheap and some more expensive normal ones, since they make the head to soft, which, while more pleasing to the gums, doesn't help in keeping the teeth clean and in the end results in a shorter lifespan of the brush.

Which is a pointless feature if you can move your hands. As I said, there is a demographic who need electric toothbrushes, but beyond them, owning one is a sign of laziness or Consumerist need to own expensive things to try and prove something. Like most pricey liquors

And the best work and hiking boots I've had have been dirt cheap but made of good leather. Same with zippo lighters, they do the job and the more expensive versions of them only do it just as well.

Unless you get a butane torch, but those things make the room smell like ass. A stoner friend of mine used one constantly to light his bongs.

I'm so sorry I brought up my teeth stains, guys I'll just use some teeth whiteners or something, it's not a big deal please just stop.

>>17790280
But its free entertainment.

>>17790271
>Same with zippo lighters, they do the job and the more expensive versions of them only do it just as well.
Zippo fluid lighters taint your cigar. You can snag butane inserts tho but the few Ive bought have been dogshit. I've got a few torches and recently splurged on a prometheus flat flame. Went with that over a similarly priced st dupont. Seems like a waste but its real nice when you realize two mirror polished surfaces make looking at the cigar you're lighting very convenient.
> A stoner friend of mine used one constantly to light his bongs.
He's either using a shitty torch, shitty butane or both. Doesn't happen with a blazer gt8000 and more refined gas. I like vector 14x.
>>17790280
$80. It'll change your life.
https://oralb.com/en-us/products/electric-toothbrushes/smart-7000-rechargeable-electric-toothbrush/

which toothbrush should I buy?

Toothpase infusion
A daring synthesis

>>17790316
I don't smoke, I just use it to start fires or light candles/ incense. I'm aware torches work better for cigars and burn brighter. And yeah he probably did use a shitty torch. But, if you need a lighter, you'll probably only need a zippo. That's why you can buy them everywhere. Only reason to by a reusable is if you smoke.
>>17790280
Don't listen to him, just get good toothpaste and brush longer. Electrics are trash

>>17790322
Just use your finger bruv.

>>17790326
Just brew some wintergreen or mint. Boom.

>>17790316
Fucking a hundred dollars for a lighter? Yeah, got to agree with the anti consumerism guy, you're just buy for the luxury price.

>>17790316
Fuck off shill

>>17790280
I'm trying these combined with some random blue light I found on Amazon for ten bux. What about you?
https://crest.com/en-us/oral-care-products/3d-whitestrips/professional-effects-twin-pack

>>17790337
>fucking a hundred dollars for a lighter?
Yeah that one was def unnecessary but very nice to have. I was tired of rmaing the $30 xikar I bought every 6 weeks when the ignition mech would jam so I splurged. Little cheaper than the st dupont mini.

>>17790385
At least you know you have a problem, mate. fuck me. I'd sooner rub to sticks together for a light

3 minute matcha cake. best part is i stole the matcha so it's practically free

>>17790432
based melanated baker

>>17790432
Nice and thrifty, anon.

>>17790399
I mean its not like I'm buying shit like this. Or collecting fountain pens or yixing. I just have a nice lighter and I brush my teeth. I'll probably buy a stupidly nice glazed gaiwan at some point to break.
https://lightersdirect.com/collections/s-t-dupont/products/s-t-dupont-phoenix-renaissance-ligne-2-lighter-collectors-set

>>17790467
That's outrageous, but it doesn't change the fact buying a 200 dollar toothbrush is also really fucking stupid stupid, You're still alone on thinking it isn't even if the people blasting you for it got bored. At least a hundred dollar lighter is understandable if you're a smoker. You don't need a fancy toothbrush, just good toothpaste and the ability to brush your teeth regularly and like an adult.

And I've broken several very nice gaiwans. Including a custom commissioned one that was part of a set with a cup. That stung, but I got a nice replacement from the same potter.

>>17790467
Nah, you're still a fucking moron for buying that toothbrush, bro. And up your ass about doing it.
Also I find cheaper gaiwans to be too thin, that's something worth the price. I like my teaware to be hefty enough that its a 50/50 chance if I hucked it at someone's head that it'd break or their skull would.

Mostly the porcelain ones you get for like, 10 bucks, I don't like. Feel flimsy and stain easy. Now stoneware or clay, you can't go wrong with any piece made from those, even if its cheap. Really, its an issue of materials. People like porcelain for some reason, but the true puerh lesbian knows clay and stoneware is the more worthy material

And, usually what you'll find. Shit, you can get a nice gaiwan for less than most tea cakes.

>>17790477
Let me guess, bought them early and your pouring form resulted in splash back when you brewed oolong or something? That's how I lost my first gaiwan, but it was a cheap piece of shit, so no tears here.

I'd cry if I lost my current set thou. Especially if it was the drip glaze cup I got. Even if it looks like its covered in cum. I love the texture of it.

>>17790477
>And I've broken several very nice gaiwans. Including a custom commissioned one that was part of a set with a cup.
Seems like a bigger waste than a toothbrush thatll last a few years minimum. Provides zero advantage over $10 on aliexpress etc etc.

>>17790487
> bought them early and your pouring form resulted in splash back when you brewed oolong or something?

Bingo. Not for the custom gaiwan though, slipped from my hands while I was drying it after washing it. Stupid mistake to make, but it taught me to never loosen my grip. Got relaxed and lost one of my favorite pieces.


>>17790495
I mean, it can last decades if I don't drop it and my grip has become very secure. Fuck it might outlast me even.. And I got it as a birthday present for myself, both times. It was an indulgence, but it doesn't change the fact that a 200 dollar toothbrush is a stupid thing to buy. I didn't buy it going "Oh yeah this is gonna brew my tea sooo much better"

I bought it for vanity, and I admit it. Unlike you

>>17790495
Not really, now one commissions a gaiwan or pot expecting it to brew better. They do it cause they can't find a certain look on the market. That is entirely an aesthetic purchase, like fashion or art. The value is on the owner. Unlike an overpriced toothbrush that's no better than the regular kind.

If you bought that thing for looks or just because you thought it was cool, it'd be more acceptable that buying it thinking it'd do anything more than just brushing your teeth rigorously (and with a nice toothpaste)

>>17790503
Oof, I did that once. But it was just a glazed cup. Most mysterious break I had was when a glass pitcher I had fucking exploded in the cabinet I keep my teaware in.

No idea what caused that

>>17790495
I mean it does, over aliexpress gaiwans. It won't give you cancer or poison you with the glaze.

>>17790524
really, I don't trust anyone who sells crackle glazes on tea or dinnerware. Crazing is fine, its too be expected really. But crackle glazes? Most of them aren't safe, since shards of the glass slip into whatever you make, too small too hurt or be noticed, but enough to really fuck you up inside. That's a red flag that'll save your ass, no matter how cheap you wanna go.

Never by crackle glaze in teaware

>>17790536
>too small too hurt or be noticed, but enough to really fuck you up inside.
retard

>>17790550
Its the same as breathing in asbestos. Again, crazing won't do this. Crackle glazes do, due to how they glaze breaks. Isn't safe for consumption, safe for decoration

>>17790503
>>17790512
>>17790524
Cope. People absolutely commission teaware in the hopes that it pours marginally better or subjectively pairs better with their favorite leaf. Dentists objectively get your teeth cleaner than you do at home with a motorized head. Emulate it at home instead of imagining the pottery scene from ghost while you sip.

>>17790577
Yeah but he didn't, fuck he even admitted he bought it cause he wanted something fancy. And you're delusion if you think your toothbrush even approaches dentist level care, which you did claim it did earlier or even nears emulating it. That's 200 bucks you coulda spent on common sense lessons, brother.

>>17790577
>imagining the pottery scene from ghost while you sip.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Did the fact I made a vanity purchase break your mind? And I am not one them, otherwise I'd have bought a collection of yixing. They're in the minority if they commissioned a tea set expecting it to magically improve their tea and are idiots justifying a purchase when they could just say "I liked how it looked". Which is why I, and most people who make such a frivolous purchase do.

Buying for beauty is different than buying cause "Oh wow it cost lots of money! It must work good!"

>>17790577
>People absolutely commission teaware in the hopes that it pours marginally better or subjectively pairs better with their favorite lea

No, usually those people buy yixing pots. And I've not yet encounter a tea autist who cares about pour times, though some shops do list it.

>Emulate it at home instead of imagining the pottery scene from ghost while you sip.

And I get this is supposed to be calling them gay, but that doesn't make any sense with the argument you're making which was already kind of flimsy, as the guy who got it said "Yeah, I got it made cause I wanted a pretty thing" rather than going on about how better it pours.

Again, there is a big difference between buying something cause you like how it looks, and buying it because you got swindled into thinking it works better. Beauty in the eye of the beholder, ya know? That changes value on a personal level.

Which can't happen to an overprice toothbrush. So long as they aren't cheap, all toothbrushes work just as effectively as any other in the individuals hands. Its all about toothpaste and technique

>>17790593
>And I am not one them
yet.
>Buying for beauty is different than buying cause "Oh wow it cost lots of money! It must work good!"
Bought that pro 5000 because my dentist recommended it back in the day. Something about good electric toothbrushes being cheap and you can share one "handle" among multiple heads. Somehow that equates to frivolously buying toothbrushes twice a decade to show off on 4chan. Make sure to post your next commissioned piece.

>>17790577
>Anon says "I bought it cause I liked how it looked"
>Retard says "Cope! People absolutely by it cause they think it'd work better"

I think you need to get off the internet pal, the roasting you've got and continue to subject yourself to is clearly rotting your brain. It isn't healthy to be this mad over a needlessly expensive toothbrush.

>>17790604
>Its all about toothpaste and technique
Please share your technique that rivals 10,500 oscillations/rotations and 40,000 pulses per minute. Can you clean better than an ultrasonic as well?

>>17790613
>clearly rotting your brain
Now you're just projecting.
https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/484989

>>17790609
No, I'm not a retard like you.

I bought it cause I wanted something pretty to show off and admire when I drank tea. And I won't commission another piece unless it breaks and even then only if I've somehow broken both of my spare gaiwans. Shit, it might be that I get tired of gong fu, and shrug my shoulders when it breaks in a move, ten or so years down the line.

Always a good idea to keep spares around, since you never know when an asshole cat or butterfingers will take away your one brewing vessel.

But you, are either regretting buying that toothbrush or actually did buy it for vanity, like I did my set. Otherwise, why would you spend fucking hour defending the act of buying something that has no greater use than a regular old toothbrush?

>>17790629
>>17790635
Yeah, not affecting you at all, when you spend all day arguing with people over a fucking toothbrush. Face it, you've gone beyond the pale. You've wasted hours, leaping at provoction and reacting exactly how these people want

Over a godamn, overpriced toothbrush. You're a lost cause.

>>17790629
Probably not, but none of that shit matters. its just a selling point for you to point out, so you don't have to admit you bought it cause it was expensive

>>17790609
And because you got fucking swindled by your dentist. You know they get paid by the brands they recommend right? They aren't doing that for your benefit or to encourage your health, they're doing it to line their pockets. Shit, its better for them to sell you bad product to make you have to come into their office more.

Like lots of tea sellers, like Mei Leaf, who is a supreme bullshit artist.

Also just gonna point out, it makes you look retarded telling someone who bought a piece for appearance sake alone that they'll buy another for functionality one day. Like really, mouth breathing retarded.

It can go in the reverse, but no one who realizes looks don't matter for the brew will ever suddenly think that it does

>>17790609
>>17790629
>>17790635
Honestly, this reeks of coping. Why are you so offended that people rightfully think a two hundred dollar toothbrush isn't worth it, considering it really doesn't do anything more than a normal tooth brush?

And yeah, as has been pointed out, you've been defending it for all day. That isn't a sign of a healthy mind. Fuck, most of it is bait, and you keep biting it. W

>>17790641
>>17790650
You'll get over it soon.
>why would you spend fucking hour defending the act of buying something that has no greater use than a regular old toothbrush?
When looking at improving your life you should start with the things you use most often. Sheets, pillows, toothbrushes etc. If you continually piss away money on clay pots you're just going to tread water while larping on 4chan.

>>17790659
Classic /pol/tard the ada is out to get me. Stay fluoridated.

>>17790667
You really are just making shit up now. I commissioned two sets, lost one after like two years, and then bought another to replace it with money I got on my birthday.

Meanwhile, you spend all fucking day defending a toothbrush and pretending that I think the teaware I purchased for vanity makes my tea taste better or someshit.

If you aren't pretending to be retarded, you're just pathetic

>>17790672
Sounds like you've wasted your money and are just upset. Do you sleep on cheap sheets or not?

>>17790669
No one mentioned /pol/. And yes, people who tell you to buy something, especially professional, usually have an agenda. Its why chefs always hawk their knives or tv personalities shill their books. They want more money.

That isn't a conspiracy, that's common sense. Literally every industry does it. Its advertising.

>>17790667
That's a lot of projection my dude. Why are you so mad that you got scammed? Does it upset you people like anon know when they're wasting money on something and embrace it, cause they want something pretty?

Cause it sounds like you got a nerve struck when they started talking about buying things for appearance alone.

>>17790667
>>17790677

Now you're just accusing that anon of what everyone has said you're doing. You really are a manchild, aren't you? Bought an overpriced toothbrush cause a cute dentist told you to? Yeah, being laughed at on the internet didn't rot your brain. Cause it already was

>>17790677
Why would I I regret a frivolous purchase? As I've said already, but you clearly need to hear again, I bought it for vanity, cause I wanted something beautiful to look at while I sipped tea. As a gift for myself. That's indulgence. Never acted like it was anything else.

Unlike you.

And yeah, course I do. but I can sleep anywhere, but I prefer to sleep comfortably. Have weighted blankets, bamboo pillows, the works. And while sleep is more important than tea, I purchased all of those things for enjoyment.

Rather than cause it was expensive and I deluded myself into thinking it did its job better. Though, weighted blankets and soft pillows aren't really a good analogy, since they do
measurably improve sleep and comfort.

Unlike two hundred dollar toothbrushes

>>17790680
>You take very good care of your mouth and theres zero plaque inbetween your teeth You might want to look into an electric toothbrush due to how tight they're spaced. They've gotten pretty good. Don't spend more like $150 tho.
Holy shit man I got scammed. Every dental brand sends every dentist a stipend in the mail monthly.
>>17790687
Its a yes or no question.

>>17790667
>So asshurt someone can admit to wasting money on buying something unnecessary he goes full schizo.

this isn't healthy, anon. Its just a toothbrush, an overpriced toothbrush.

>>17790701
Cept you spent two hundred dollars.

>>17790695
>since they do measurably improve sleep and comfort.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jcpe.13126
>Long-term impact of powered toothbrush on oral health: 11-year cohort study
>Conclusions
>In the long-term, powered toothbrush seems to be effective in reducing mean PD and mean CAL progressions, besides increasing the number of teeth retained.
Huh. Probably means I should spend more on teaware and less on toothbrushs.

>>17790701
That wasn't me you retard. And yeah you did get scammed. A toothbrush does only as much good as work you put into brushing your teeth. See, you've fallen for the "I think it will do it better" mindset that you for some reason accuse me of. No toothbrush is worth that much money, because in the end, no matter how much you paid, you'll get the same results

Like with teaware. Even Yixing, which I am confident doesn't do shit for your tea.

>>17790709
Only because most people don't brush their teeth right. That skews the results. Since when people give their teeth a once over, and don't brush, it doesn't do shit for their teeth. Electric toothbrushes, alleviate this for lazy bastards who refuse to spend time brushing their teeth.

But if you actually brush your teeth right? No fucking difference. But, hey it had a big number on its price tag, so it has to be better!

>>17790711
>A toothbrush does only as much good as work you put into brushing your teeth.
And a high powered, small, oscillating and vibrating brushhead makes it real easy to precisely polish each tooth right up to the gumline. See how that works? Try it out sometime.

>>17790709
Or you know don't spend that much on either of those things unless its vital or for vanity? A two hundred dollar toothbrush like a commissioned tea set, isn't vital. If its a vanity purchase, is for you to decide. If you want something and can afford it, go for it. But don't act like it does anything better than its less expensive counterpart

>>17790717
>all studies are flawed because the dental industry is a scam and I can't or choose not to engage with the rapidly swelling prices
>Compared to MTB users, PTB users had lower mean PD, mean CAL, DMFS and DFS scores while having more teeth present
Its all fake because I choose to believe its fake.

>>17790721
That's just you deluding yourself to justify the purchase. That just sounds like the same bullshit of "Oh its made of a special clay, so it makes tea better".

It doesn't. You just want it to do, so you can act like you didn't buy it for the exact reason I bought my teaware, cause you wanted to show it off. I just started aware of this, cause hey, its nice to own nice looking things.

Its okay to make frivolous purchases, and buy things you don't need. If we didn't, people wouldn't decorate their houses.

>>17790722
>>17790735
>CONCLUSION
>From the results in this study, it could be seen that the PTB usage has a long-term protective effect on the oral health in terms of reduced probing depths, clinical attachments and number of teeth lost. Based on this, it seems that the PTB usage in the long run helps in maintaining the number of teeth in the oral cavity and reducing the progression of periodontal disease burden.
What does this mean? I'm too retarded to read.

>>17790732
>all studies are flawed because the dental industry is a scam and I can't or choose not to engage with the rapidly swelling prices

Yeah, exactly. Its all bullshit. They're creating products that do nothing better than their normal counterparts, which haven't increased in price. And you're eating it up. And most studies aren't worth a damn, you see how much people switch on if eating eggs are healthy or worse than smoking a carton of cigs a day?

Want an example? Look a psychiatry. People have entered into that field without a day of research and just made shit up which got accepted by the whole collective without any oversight.

The most well known case did it out of spite, cause he thought psychiatrists were hacks and made up a bunch of terms and conditions and got wide acceptance without reading a single fucking book on the subject.

Science is transient. What is accepted now, will seem foolish tomorrow

>>17790745
>Could be
>It seems

That doesn't exude confidence. That's a huge red flag in any study, proving my point. And I am not the guy who bought the teaset, I am >>17790749


He, is arguing that its a frivolous purchase, which it does seem to be, considering you still are defending it

>>17790749
>What is accepted now, will seem foolish tomorrow
Keeping your teeth clean is a fad.

>>17790745
Clearly you are, since you think that somehow justifies overspending on a toothbrush, when any old one would work just as well, electric or not

If you just said "I bought it cause it makes me feel better about myself" Or "I like the look and feel" it would be fine. Similar to commissioning a teaset for a specific look.

But instead, you embarrass yourself on a chinese tea drinking forum because you can't stand that people think less of you for buying a two hundred dollar toothbrush.

>>17790752
>There has been a significant association of PTB usage with more number of teeth retained in the entire sample and in the regular brushers’ subset. Based on this, it is evident that the PTB usage on the long run helps in preventing tooth loss and maintaining the number of teeth in the oral cavity. From this study, it could be seen that the PTB usage may have a long-term protective effect on the oral health in general. It could also be seen that there has been a gradual increase in the usage of PTB over time. The reasons for this might be increased advertisements and dentist recommendations. German Oral Health Study showed that recently there has been an increase in the usage of inter-dental cleaning aids (Jordan & Micheelis, 2016). This, in addition to increased PTB usage as observed in the SHIP cohort, reflects the increased awareness of German population towards oral hygiene.
> it is evident that the PTB usage on the long run helps in preventing tooth loss and maintaining the number of teeth in the oral cavity.
I dunno, seems pretty fucking confident to me. Increased advertisements and dentist recs sounds like the public becoming more aware of proper dental hygiene to me. The only downsides to powered toothbrushes seems to be increased gum agitation which you're also going to get by trying to scrub the piss out of your teeth manually.

>>17790754
You really are grasping for straws if that's the meaning you got out of that. What I meant, which you're too mad to understand, is that that research could be outdated in a single paper, if they reduced the variables. Every examine you listed is lacking in that regard and doesn't provide any substantial evidence to the claim that electric toothbrushes work better.
Hell, no one whose bait you took hook like an sinker over all these hours said anything like that.

What they said is "its stupid to spend that much on something that does the same job, just as well, as any reasonably priced toothbrush"

Which is true

>>17790764
And how do does people used in the study brush their teeth? If they're like most people, who do the bare minimum and skip brushing, that already invalidates the results entirely. Since that is what electric makes up for, it brushes when people are too lazy or unable to brush themselves.

Otherwise, it does nothing more or less than traditional methods of dental care

>>17790764
That really proves nothing. Most people have terrible dental habits desu. The increase would, logically, come from the fact the increased movement brushes more over the short span of time they do brush. But the same would be achieved with more brushing at which point the potions do little but expedite a process that takes half a minute at least, more if you're being real thorough

>>17790777
>Otherwise, it does nothing more or less than traditional methods of dental care
I'm sure you'll take down big dental one of these days. I'll be waiting on the study. Do you have any preliminary research or is this just a gut feeling thing?
>>17790765
>provide any substantial evidence
Table 2.

>>17790780
Seriously, don't you have anything better to do than to be mad that people think its stupid to spend that much on toothbrushes. And yeah, I'm damn certain cause I brush with a standard toothbrush and I always get compliments from MY dentist, and they never tried to push product on me. And this is from multiple dentists, from different offices and across several years

>>17790778
>but expedite a process that takes half a minute at least, more if you're being real thorough
>half a minute
I'm trying to convince people who brush for 30s to take better care of themselves. What a world.

>>17790786
I'm not mad I'm just disappointed. Why are you switching dentists so frequently? Your back molars really that filthy? You need to get all the faces of the tooth pal.

>>17790780
Ah yes, table two, Where it conveniently leaves out the brushing habits of MTB users, while mentioning those of the PTB. Which is a sure sign of a weighed study

>>17790796
No, I move for my work, you fucking mongoloid.

>>17790791
Did you read at least? That's the rushing out the door brushing. I swear you have your head so far up your ass you can't actually understand what you're arguing against

>>17790791
You aren't convincing anyone of shit. If anything, I'm never spending more than twenty bucks on a toothbrush after seeing this argument.


>>17790796
You very clearly are butthurt that no one thinks your toothbrush is cool and keep taking bait when anons are clearly just trying to get just get a rise out of you

>>17790797
>Interviews and medical examination
>Participants were asked whether they used powered or manual toothbrush at each time point from SHIP-1 to SHIP-3.
>Based on the toothbrushing frequency, participants were categorised into irregular (<2 times/day) or regular brushers (≥2 times/day). Classification of covariates considered in the study (educational status at the start of study, smoking status, toothbrushing frequency, dental visit in the last 12 months, periodontal treatment in the last 5 years, diabetes, physical activity and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention/American Academy of Periodontology (CDC/AAP) case definition of periodontitis) are mentioned in Table 1.
> For example, in the entire sample, PTB users had −0.03 mm smaller mean PD than MTB brushers at baseline. However, after 11 years, MTB users had 0.41 mm of mean PD progression, while the PTB users had 0.09 mm significantly less mean PD, that is 0.32 mm mean PD progression. This difference could also be translated as PTB users having 22% less mean PD progression over a period of 11 years (Figure 2 and Table S2). On exploring the subsets of study participants, PTB users had a significantly low mean PD progressions (estimates ranging from −0.09 to −0.11). Similarly, PTB usage was associated with low mean CAL progression in the entire sample [−0.19 (−0.32; −0.07)] as well as in all subsets (estimates ranging from −0.19 to −0.26).
Its all right there buddy.

>>17790802
>That's the rushing out the door brushing.
You're telling me you think its okay to brush for 30 seconds but invalidate a study because other people (ie you) have shitty brushing habits? And you're telling me this to prove you get your teeth as clean as an electric toothbrush? Wild. Take the extra 1m30 next time and blame it on traffic. Your dentist(s) are obviously just charming you so you come back. Why would they recommend a product that would give them less business?

>>17790816
>Based on the toothbrushing frequency, participants were categorised into irregular (<2 times/day) or regular brushers (≥2 times/day). Classification of covariates considered in the study (educational status at the start of study, smoking status, toothbrushing frequency, dental visit in the last 12 months, periodontal treatment in the last 5 years, diabetes, physical activity and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention/American Academy of Periodontology (CDC/AAP) case definition of periodontitis) are mentioned in Table 1.

Okay, where to begin. First off, that categorization is flimsy as fuck. As it doesn't account for time spent brushing which is the most important factor, while the sub varieties does remove variables, they still are lacking control, as there is a huge different between someone who brushes their teeth well and someone who just gives a quick, 30sec scrubbing. That's where the real data lies. Duration and movements.

Most of the sub varieties are entirely pointless except removing variables from the main groupings. If they set a standardized brushing regimen for the subjects of the study and enforced it, which would never happen, it would be more worthwhile. As it stands, its damn near worthless cause it doesn't show How long and diligently either group brushes.

Which is what equalizes standard and electronic toothbrushes.

>>17790822
Rushing out the door is not late for work, its family emergency or similar. Something where you have no fucking time. And only 1min 30? Man, no wonder you need an overpriced piece of shit to pick up your slack.


And yeah, most people have shitty brushing habits. Electronic brushes encourage those habits, but lessen the impact.

You clearly have some horrible self esteem issues, if you need to spend so long defending a toothbrush.

>>17790822
You really have no way of defending your position, besides insults and fallacies you cook up to try and get one over on the other guys.

You really are making expensive toothbrush owners look like fucking basket cases, you know that right? And you know, they're clearly just fucking with you so you make an ass out of yourself.

>>17790835
>half minute
>Take the extra 1m30
>extra
>only 1min 30
Man if you can't read that without fucking up no wonder you can't discern info from clinical periodontology papers. Showing up to a family emergency with shitty breath is a dick move. How often are you having these emergencies during peak toothbrushing hours? You wouldn't think a 2 minute slice of time twice a day would cause so many problems.
>The American Dental Association recommends brushing teeth twice a day for two minutes using a fluoride toothpaste. Brushing for two minutes has been shown to achieve clinically significant plaque removal and use of a toothpaste containing fluoride enhances fluoride concentration levels in biofilm fluid and saliva, and is associated with decreased risk of caries and remineralization of teeth.

>>17790856
Still making up fantasies to try and keep your side of the argument alive. Two minutes isn't enough, either numbnuts. But you're gonna pretend I just look at the brush, cause that's the only way you can justify spending two hundred dollars on a toothbrush. You really are stupid, and hiding behind science papers just makes you look dumber. Since you clearly don't understand them at all. But hey, its the only way you can keep defending your poor life choices for nearly half a day now.

>>17790842
>I had a bad experience with toothbrush users on 4chan so I've sworn them off forever
>Those studies telling you to brush your teeth are all dental industry propaganda

>>17790856
You know, you really are a pathetic sack of shit, Do you have nothing better to do than shit up this thread and encourage people by throwing a tantrum or hopefully pretending to be retarded so they can laugh at you? Like they're pathetic to, but they'd fuck off the moment you stop presenting yourself as a target

Do you even fucking drink tea? At least a few of the fuckers hounding you did.

>>17790863
>two minutes isn't enough
Do you have any info to back this up or are you just melting because you misread a simple comment?
> But you're gonna pretend
Look man you're the one who said you brush for a half minute. Unprompted. I didn't ask for your brushing habits, you gave them. Don't backtrack now. 30 seconds is enough when you're having daily family emergencies, or similar crisis between 7am and 10am, and 9pm-12am.

>>17790874
Not toothbrush users, just smug assholes like you who center their identity around which expensive toothbrush they bought to the point of devoting their day to argue about it with strangers.

A toothbrush works just as well even if you don't shell out hundreds of dollars for one.

And again, you're making shit up so you can have a leg to stand on just so you can be baited more. You're like shit smeared honey to the users of this site.

>>17790882
In a rush. Yes. No one who actually cares about their teeth brushes for so little of time. Its just to make you presentable in public, until you can actually brush your teeth. And two minutes isn't enough, you need a minute or two more to really clean your teeth and make sure every angel is probably brushed.

I'm really not sure what your arguing for now, since we agree here. Maybe you're just too stupid to see it?

>>17790882
You really are desperate to keep this pointless argument going. How wounded is your pride over a fucking toothbrush? Did the guy say it was daily, no, he said in a rush. Do you rush every morning in your life? No, but you need to act like he does so you can keep making yourself look like a retard online

>>17790875
Often. Usually a session every night before bed. Had some lao cha tou earlier, now I'm starting on some tgy.
>>17790886
>center their identity around which expensive toothbrush
making fun of 4channers who don't brush their teeth is center my identity around a toothbrush. Jesus you're autistic.
>>17790893
Its funny how we agree as soon as you're outed as a poor brusher. Both of mine have had a two minute timer, 30 second quadrants. I time based on that then do some vanity touchup on the smile to make sure my gumline is clean. My argument is if you can afford to spend
>premium dollars
on tea leaves and tea pots, you can afford take better care of your teeth than the average moron. Your argument is most people don't brush their teeth up to your (nonexistent) standards so its ok to be a slob and pantomime brushing for 30 seconds before you fly out the door. I remember standing in the lunch line next to the kids who would do that in grade school. You can always tell.

>109 matches for toothbrush
now that you guys are finished, who won?

>>17790913
Again, you're projecting and inventing scenarios just so you can keep arguing and making yourself look like retard. You've spent all day doing this.
>making fun of 4channers who don't brush their teeth is center my identity around a toothbrush.
Except even the trolls you've been feeding yourself have advocated for proper brushing habits.

You're just inventing shit so you continue debasing yourself on the alter of internet morons. Allow me to correct myself, your life revolves around shitposting, not a toothbrushes.

>>17790913
>Often. Usually a session every night before bed. Had some lao cha tou earlier, now I'm starting on some tgy.

Fucking doubt that's true with how much your autistic ass has shat up the thread. At least the people arguing with you have an excuse of wanting to get a reaction out of you.

All you had to do, was not be a retard and ignore the bait.

>>17790925
>advocated for proper brushing habits.
Are you under the impression that lazily brushing for 30 seconds is proper? Do better. You can spend hours a day timing your gaiwan pours, try more than a few seconds on each tooth face. Don't know why there's so much resistance.

There are water tap attachments that are like a dentist's tooth power washers, those paired with a bit of regular brushing beat all else.
Back to tea; whats some good teas for cold brewing? Any personal recommendations?

2 and a half hours later you fags are still talmbow teeth brushin LOL

>>17790913
Only thirty seconds each? That's pathetic, you need to double that, at least. No wonder you're so defensive of that fucking toothbrush, its the only thing keeping your teeth healthy with you how little effort you put into it.

> Your argument is most people don't brush their teeth up to your (nonexistent) standards so its ok to be a slob and pantomime brushing for 30 seconds before you fly out the door.

Didn't say shit like that, but pretending I did really is the only way you can keep this argument going isn't it. You sad, pathetic little man

>>17790941
No one said that, I said it works in a rare rush so you don't have morning breath if you need to get out of the house immediately. But of course, you can't argue against anything but a caricature, can you?

>>17790938
>Fucking doubt that's true
Pretty easy to prove right? I'd imagine theres much more resistance to both brushing your teeth and the sensation of an electric toothbrush in the highly autistic. Might explain the aversion.

>>17790941
And here you go again. Unable to let the argument die so you add fuel to it by acting even more like a retard so more bait can be presented to you. You're so starved for attention you spend literally all of your day acting like a moron online so strangers can laugh at you.

>>17790953
Fuck off already, you're spent long enough shitting up this thread. Congratulations, you proved you drink tea. Doesn't change the fact you spent all fucking night ruining this thread caused some anons were mean to you

>>17790943
Green tea

>>17790945
Its one autist who keeps taking the bait. He hasn't stopped, so the people shitting on him haven't left.

>>17790947
>nooooo that study doesn't talk about the brushing habits of manual users
>nooooo those people have shitty technique mine is way better I actually get mine clean
>nooooo I don't brush my teeth for 30s that often I don't even know why I brought that up
Look man. I haven't done shit like that since I was a child. I'd rather be 5 minutes late than show up stinking. Noone has ever showed up to an emergency and said
>fuck I really wish I had that 2 minutes back, my teeth don't actually need to be clean right now
What kind of life are you living where these crisis are happening on a regular basis?

>>17790969
You really are determined to render this thread unusable aren't you?

>>17790966
>OMG I bet he doesn't even DRINK tea
>OMG you drink tea who cares
The duality of man in full effect.
>>17790968
Yeah there are usually multiple fishermen fighting over a singular fish. Think before you post.

>>17790969
Cause that's important
They probably do, most people don't brush their teeth properly
No idea why you are still resorting to the fantasy you've dreamt up of me brushing my teeth for 30 secs, when I mentioned it as "dire emergency" scenario, yet you're so desperate for any ground you keep pushing it as a day to day thing. Ignoring everything else just to keep hanging onto the thread

Because you have nothing else, not in this argument or in life. You spent all day arguing about toothbrushes. You clearly have time to waste if you can waste so much of it shitposting, just like you wasted the money you spent on that toothbrush

>>17790973
>render this thread unusable
Somehow I'm the only one who has posted tea in hours. Weird.

>>17790980
>>17790984

You really have nothing better to do, do you? You have no life beyond shitposting. This fucker >>17790981
whose been encouraging you hit the nail on the head. This is all you got. Arguing and spending half a day shitting up a thread

That's incredibly sad

>>17790984
You're also the reason no else has posted tea in hours.

>>17790981
>But the same would be achieved with more brushing at which point the potions do little but expedite a process that takes half a minute at least, more if you're being real thorough
>when I mentioned it as "dire emergency" scenario
Nothing about that dire emergency scenario until I made fun of you for brushing for a half minute at least. Seems like you invented said scenario to save face after being outed.

>>17790991
I've got no control over that. You could have taken a picture of some tea in that comment right there. You chose not to.
>>17790987
>this guy keeps shitting up my 4chan thread I should spend hours defending it
You really have nothing better to do, do you?

>>17790994
>Seems like you invented said scenario to save face after being outed.

pot calling the kettle black, except you didn't do it to save face. You haven't tried to actually argue you point for a few hours now, you just wanna try to come out on top on an internet argument after being laughed at and mocked for the better part of a day.


And you can't even do that right. Man, get a hobby.

>>17790998
No, the blame is entirely on you, you autistic manchild. You chose to keep taking the bait, to act like a fucking moron just so you could keep shitting up the thread along with the people who get a kick out of you making a fool out of yourself.

And you will keep doing it and keep doing, cause its literally all you have to do. You have no defense, you're just an asshole like the people who've been egging you on.

>>17791001
>process that takes half a minute at least, more if you're being real thorough
So if real through is >30s, through would be =30s, and less than through would be <30s. See how that works? Brush your teeth. Seems like you need all the help you need.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oseqh7SMIvo

>>17791010
You're so fucking mad you can't even write proper english anymore. And you're still standing by that weak ass strawman. Man, I can't even laugh at you more, this is just getting pathetic.

>>17791012
>ctrl-f dire emergency
Can you give me an example of one of these and the frequency? I just want to know what prompted you to mention you brush your teeth for 30s on occasion.

And he instantly proved my point. Incredible. He'll just keep repeating the same shit fallacy filled arguments and taking the bait until the thread drops off.

>>17791025
Taking you at your word isn't a fallacy. Sometimes when I'm in a rush I only put deodorant on 1/8th of my armpit. Just the crease. Strictly for emergencies though.

beast of a thread

>>17791021
Because its happened before and its what most people do, its the briefest amount that eliminates stank breath. And these circumstances, where I'm so rushed that I have to be so brief, don't follow a pattern and are rare. But, since I'm actually arguing in good faith, I figured i'd mention it as it does apply to my brushing habits even in a very minor way.

But you will who keep falling back on this claim, won't you. You've given up defending yourself and the toothbrush. Which I'm fine with, you need the social interaction after all, clearly.

>>17791030
And you'll keep proving me right, and keep taking the bait after presenting the same fallacy, over and over again until the thread dies. Cause its all you have, isn't it? Pretending to be mad at strangers and acting retarded.

>>17791031
Behold the power of a singular autist when provided bait to latch on to, and despair.

>>17791033
So we agree you're using your occasionally shitty brushing habits to invalidate a long term study after all? Now if we're actually arguing in good faith, I'd place you in the regular MTB brusher category. 2x a day brushers who occasionally slip. It seems like your anecdotal evidence would actually support that study. You admit you could take better care of your teeth and an electric toothbrush would help with that. 30s with a motor is going to do a better job than 30s without.

>>17791059
Once In a blue moon doesn't mean occasionally, you retard. It also doesn't impact teeth health at all, since I brush my teeth at least three times a day, and for around four of five minutes each time .

But keep rolling out that tired old argument, we need to keep this going after all, and it's the only choice you have to continue it, since everything else you had has gotten dragged through the mud. At least now you returned to trying to shill your shitty toothbrush again. It was beginning to get stale, our back and forth. I missed being able to mock it, and your purchase of it

>>17791082
Very occasionally then? I'm just trying to get some data here. It clearly happens enough for you to have brought it up. Personally if I can, I brush my teeth when I wake up, when I go to sleep, and whenever I feel any scum at all. I'd imagine all you feel is scum. Take your nail and scrape your teeth sometime.

>>17791104
It really doesn't. It just the absolute shortest amount of time I'd take, even for emergencies, moron.

And only when you wake up and turn in? No wonder you needed and electric toothbrush
That's a terrible habit. You need to brush after you eat, and of course after you drink anything that may stain your teeth. You really did waste two hundred bucks on a tool you don't know how to properly use. But hey, to be fair, kids are practically encouraged to not brush their teeth right

>>17791112
>omg the fallacies
>and whenever I feel any scum at all.
Pretty much covers it. Still waiting on an example of a tragedy that would cause an otherwise meticulous brusher to forego his usual habits. Unless of course that was a bullshit coverup. When is the last time it happened?

>>17791123
When my sister decided to go into labor a week early and family tradition meant the while family had to be there. Also you do know I wasn't the one talking about fallacies and shit. I just got bored when you kept repeating the same accusation.

You know, life. Some people still have one beyond the computer screen and haven't chased away all their friends and family by becoming a parody of themselves obsessed with dental hygiene and overpriced toothbrushes

>>17791129
And to explain, it's an emergency cause if you miss a birth in the family they won't let you live it down for nearly a year and easter was around the corner. It'd have been really awkward that easter dinner if I wasn't in the hospital, and i got woken up as she was entering labor. Washing up took priority to teeth that day.

BO is much more noticeable than slight morning breath

>>17791129
Sounds like some white christian nonsense. No wonder you don't believe in clinical studies and have to invent stories to support your irrational beliefs. I'm sure that delivery was just a little bit smoother since you didn't brush your teeth. You know with an electric toothbrush you could have knocked that out in the parking lot, or even while you were driving.
>chased away all their friends and family
Look man we don't all hold our sister's legs during the birthing process. Some people have boundaries. Personally I don't care who my brother is fucking and I go to wedding receptions, not ceremonies.

>>17791134
>it'd have been really awkward that easter dinner
What a fucking call huh?

>>17791155
Yeah, wasn't the most pleasant alarm to wake up to. But I'd rather not be shat on by my uncles and aunts for not being there for my little sister for an entire dinner and any time my name came up in conversation until someone else's fuck overshadowed it.

Didn't even have time to take a decent shower. Need to let shampoo and conditioner soak for a minute, separately . Didn't have the time.

>>17791152
You're still going at it? Aren't you getting bored yet. And I'm still not buying into your electric toothbrush propaganda.
But I guess you need to tip your fedora even though I didn't mention God at all. It's just family politics, you need to show you care and help out, or you become the target of shaming by assholes who don't do nearly as much as you for the family and abandoned their own mother to die in a nursing home.

Just the way it is in my family, it sucks, but at least I wasn't raised so poorly as to think a two hundred dollar toothbrush was a good investment

>>17791165
>What a fucking call huh?
>Yeah, wasn't the most pleasant alarm to wake up to.
I was referring to the white religious zealot part pal. Don't act like that's normal Is it also part of the tradition to not let you live it down for nearly a year or what? Also cleanliness is next to godliness so brush your fucking teeth and it probably wouldn't hurt to try out Triumph and Disaster shampoo and conditioner. Shits bretty gud. Not as significant of an upgrade as a nice oral b, but its right up there.

>>17791177
I use Alaffia, it's really quality stuff and smells nice. And again, you really couldn't help but tip the fedora, and it isn't normal but people are assholes. I'm not even religious, really, but easter is a good time with the non cuntish members of your extended family, and the prep for dinner is always fun.

You're the one who heard easter and went full euphoric, psycho

I love you retards like you wouldn't fucking believe. You'd never get shit like this in shitholes like reddit. Cherish this dumbfuckery.

>>17791172
You seem like a deeply troubled man. I hope you're happier when you go no contact with your family here in a few years. I can't imagine the lashing at Christmas Brunch you'd get if your family found out you bought a toothbrush on Black Friday. You'd hear about it until Memorial Day Dinner. We brush our teeth the way god intended in this family and only drink boiled dr pepper on the sabbath.

>>17791184
Same. Thats my cheap shit to stretch the more expensive T&D. I like the coconut lime.

>>17791188
Pot calling the kettle black, senpai. And the family kind of fell apart after the whole "abandoned grandma to die in a nursing home" tore the family in two.

But if I'm being serious, that never happened, it qss a fabrication. Except the grandmother being left in a home thing. I just wanted to see if you'd make me laugh again, and this latest reply nearly killed me, mate. Obliterated my sides

Nah, an actual emergency was when I heard my dog choking, and paused brushing my teeth to go help him. Turns out he ate a paper towel, but that's really the only time it happened. I just, as the one anon guessed hours ago, was fucking around, since you made for such a wonderful partner.

But I do honestly think that 200 dollar toothbrush is a terrible purchase and probably a scam

>>17791193
For me it's the vanilla mint. Love it. Been thinking of trying out dr squatch. Need to find a reliable bar soap since most body washes are crao

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>>17791210
Brush your teeth and get to bed. Fendrihan has a great selection of bar soaps(and everything else). Free shipping on $45. Their thermowood shower brush is based. If you want big and cheap bar soap grab a couple duke cannon bars.

>>17791230
Nice recs, will have to check them out. You should hit the hay as well, and trust me, I brushed my teeth, just not with a fancy overpriced gizmo lol

>>17791237
I'll be off after I finish this tea. That overpriced gizmo is down to about $.18 a day and only getting cheaper.

i brush my teeth for 30 secs while i take a piss before going to bed and they're squeaky clean

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>>17778854
new thread for real this time
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>>17792057
Mine was first pls delete

Well i deleted my thread again but i can't delete the link or
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So fuck