/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17738657
Landbier doesn't mean anything anyways. Breweries label everything as Landbier.

>>17738664
True, but most Landbiers I've had so far were amber colored and hazy. I think that's kind of the consensus amongst large breweries.

It good

>>17738657
>landbier
>it's made of water

All I need

>>17739828
Berliner Luft is going to blow your mind.

>>17739785
Had Püls-Bräu's pic rel the othe day. T'was gud.

what im drinking

>>17738657
I had one of those.

>>17739971
Does it taste like ancient barley?

>>17738657
landbier just means beer that was made on the land. like in a building. as opposed to airbier or waterbier.

retard

>>17739985
>does it taste ancient
a little

>>17739994
Damn, you're a dense mf. I put the word *clearly* in between star symbols, because the beer wasn't unfiltered. Most Landbiers are unfiltered.
t. Kraut

>landbier just means beer that was made on the land.
Congratulations, you outed yourself as the #1 retard itt.

>>17738657
>drinkin'
Chimay Blue
>eatan'
Dark chocolate wholegrain biscuits

Wrapped up in a duvet, listening to podcasts and just feeling very comfy overall.

I only drink one thing.

It scratches the itch, two months sober.

>>17739778
those VR tallboys singlehandedly got me through 2020

IPAs are shit.
Stouts, sours, Doppelbocks and Belgian Ales are best.

>>17741043
IPAs are good too though

>>17739981
Tried it too. Wasn't like your typical Weizen. Tasted a little doughy and peppery. Can you recommend any other Weizen?

>>17740465
40oz crew. For me, it's King Cobra. My local liquor store has finally got them back in stock. Fucking excellent.

>>17742146
Not a big Weizen fan. I just really like this one because as you said it's not just banana and clove as all the others. Also living in the north so i don't really have access to a wide variety. When i'm in the south i buy oike 20 different bottles and forgot about most of them because they all taste so similar and boring.
I'd appreciate recommendations for very hoppy/bitter weizens if someone knows a few.

>>17742393
Not a bad one if you want something darker.

>>17742393
>I'd appreciate recommendations for very hoppy/bitter weizens
I'm a big fan of pic rel. Lots of citrus/hops flavors. You should be able to buy it at any LIDL in Germany for 0.79€. I'm sure there're some anons who can verify that it isn't a meme.

>>17739828
Is this Pferdebier?

Miller lite

Bout that season

>>17742461
Ayinger uber alles

>>17742863
You haven't tried enough beers than.
t. Kraut

>>17740434
Chimay is blessed and based beyond belief

drinking this and san miguel especial

>>17743508
>>17743495
>>17740434
based chimay enjoyers

>>17742505

This and their Session IPA are my go-to on my Lidl run every week. Literally the only IPA they have.

Going to Sad Diego next month, what should I drink, what bars/breweries should I visit?

>>17743997
Go to skid row

>>17743605
I like the silver can too! Iirc, LIDL also carries an imperial IPA from the same brewery. It's good but I prefer the session one.

>>17744107

Imperial is too strong for me. Honestly I'm getting bored with the Session and Weizen ones so I might try Imperial again. Kinda wished there's more IPA in Germany desu. Sick of these Kölsch and Weißbier

>>17738657
My beer is beer!
I wanted to play with some new superclean Kveik my buddy's been trying to nail down at his brewery/lab, so I tried to make a red Vienna Lager at steambeer temps (16C all the way through). It's good. It's not bang on, but the slight bit of peach and tangerine from the Kveik works really well, and probably wouldn't be so noticeable if I didn't use C60 and a hit of black barley to buffer any potential failings.

>>17743997
stone and ballast point for sure

>>17740465
Who exactly drinks malt liquor and stuff like this in the US?
I always have the impressions it's mainly drunk by alcoholics, hobos and alcoholic hobos.

>>17744266
Bums and college kids

>>17739828
>hops
>they don't jump

>>17743513
Chimay is available and reliable, it's the go-to Belgian for me.

>>17743513
>>17744309
>not being a St. Bernardus enjoyer
ngmi

>>17738657
I think Pilsner has become my new favorite style of beer

>>17744266
basketball americans

>>17744324
Who?

I used to live in a place where alcohol was cheap, a bottle of acceptable whisky would cost €10 to €13 per litre, and a bottle of decent wine around €5 per litre
now I'm living in Ireland and a litre of drinkable whisky costs no less than €22,50, same as any other spirit, so to save money I'm mainly drinking cheap beer now, and pic related is what my fridge looks like most of the time, or similar but with the West Indies Porter

only being used to Guinness draft made this a big surprise, it's quite drinkable, not really as toasted and dry as the draft, much sweeter, more chocolatey and caramel-y, with just a bit of the usual roasted, coffee like taste you find in the typical stout

>>17744384
https://www.sintbernardus.be/en/
They also make really enjoyable beer - less available here, but I can usually order it in.
I don't quite get why anyone would assume that enjoying Chimay would exclude you from liking these guys' beers. I highly recommend their quad and Christmas ale if you can get them.

>>17744395
Give Samuel Smith's a try sometime. I've had their Lager and India Ale- really enjoyed both

Best Beer

>>17744444
Quints confirm. Will drink nothing but stella for the rest of 2022

>>17743122
Then impart some of your wisdom, great Teuton

>>17744395
What the hell makes Ireland so expensive? Remember reading somewhere that Dublin is one of the most expensive cities in the world
>>17744449
Poor bastard

>>17744617
The Fat Boy intrigues me - stupid name, shopped purple in a pauncy snifter... the whole photo smacks of creativity wasted on knockoff goods. How are the beers?

>>17744444
wifebeater is fucking awful beer

Let me guess you "NEED" more?

>>17740069
>Landbiers
Sort of -- they are farmhouse lagers rather than the more popular farmhouse ales (think Saissons) of Western Germany/Eastern Belgium. There are plenty of unfiltered beers that aren't considered landbier - hefeweissbier is one.

t. cicerone

>>17739778
that entire line is disgusting. they all taste overly malty and sweet for no reason, especially the "juicy" hazy IPA that tastes like bile.
I haven't liked a single one of the VooDoo Ranger line of beers, the odd choice to have an edgy mascot makes me hate it twice as more

>>17744671
Overrated, overpriced, now go home and get your fucking grapefruit sculpin

>>17743122
Not sure about the dopplebock but Ayinger is one of the IBA reference beers for a reason.

>>17744684
overrated in what way? i like beers that only use ONE type of hops instead of a mix of half a dozen.

>>17739877
Fucking based I love Hertogjan

This was one of the best beers in the last couple of years but they stopped making it. The only other rye IPA I know of is Turtle Anarchy's Another Way to Rye.

>>17739877
too bad its so expensive

>>17744266
Mostly urban black people

>>17744266
its drank by people that want to temporarily improve their mental and emotional state, but only have a few dollars.
it tastes like shit and made with low-quality ingredients, but there's a lot of it and its cheap and it'll get you hammered. i drank plenty of steel reserves when I was 18 but now i'd rather spend a few extra dollars on a drink that doesn't taste like someone just threw up in my mouth

>>17744706
Probably being overly critical, but it tasted more like an IPA than what it is marketed as an ale. Price is high, and generally didn't enjoy it leads me to believe its overrated. Probably biased b/c I wouldn't buy it again when I say it's overrated.

>>17744735
I don't think I have ever seen a white person drink malt liquor though, poor whites usually go with 30 racks of shitty lighter lager

>>17744701
Because there are not many widely available Doppelbocks anyways.

>>17744841
Do Germans agree that Andechser is the best German dopplebock or do I just think this because it is on tap at a bar near me?

>>17744862
It's a meme style nobody has a strong opinion on.

>>17744883
I was genuinely surprised how little interest Germans had in trying different beers when I was there. The impression I had was most Germans had never even tried a stout or IPA. I guess thats the curse of having less shitty cheap beer than everyone else

>>17744706
Most beers blend hops.... It's rare to get exactly what you're after out of one. So far, I've only really had luck in that regard with Tettnang, Saaz, Horizon, Galaxy, Cascade, and EKG, and I really warped the beers around the hops for the most part.

>>17744684
Two Hearted isn't even expensive. Its almost certainly the best super market IPA of its era (pre-citra)

>>17744901
Stout is not available here. Most people would like it but they won't pay much more for it than a strong dunkel or schwarzbier. And even those are unpopular in Germany except in eastern Germany.
IPA is a style most people just don't like or even hate. Same for strong Belgian beers. Straight beer flavour is much prefered over fruity hop flavours. The bitterness is not the biggest issue with it. Especially in the north people prefer their beer bitter and dry. If Germans want fruity beer they mix it with lemonade or juice.
That's just how it is and it doesn't seem as it's going to change. Of course some will tell you there's a change but hipsters buying a few bottles per month have no impact on the vast majority of people, who just buy their local beer or their favourite macro beer on sale and some special occasion beers from time to time like christmas beers, mai and winterbock, local beers when on vacation etc.

This lil muhfugga

>>17744407
will do, cheers
>>17744621
it's just Dublin, there's a housing crisis at the moment mainly because of the lack of housing space (most buildings are Georgian, there's hardly any skyscraper or building trailer than two floors) and the government cracking down on landlords who are used not to paying taxes on rents, I'm here because finding work is easy and I'm a fucking gullible idiot who needs to learn how to verify what he's told in depth

>>17744680
>There are plenty of unfiltered beers that aren't considered landbier - hefeweissbier is one.
Did I claim the opposite to be true?
>t. cicerone
You sound like an intolerable twat. Explaining German beer styles to a Kraut is peak ameritard. Go leech some culture elsewhere.

>>17739778
>IPAs

>>17744617
Ayinger has good distribution channels and afaik their beers are available in the US. Ayinger will seem like an amazing beer if the only other German ones to compare them to are Hacker Pschorr, Spaten, Becks etc.

>>17745094
>I am from a place, so I know everything about it, especially things other people have wasted their entire life studying.
Remember when Germany was closed for renovations from 1938-1945? I really liked what they did with the place.

>>17745179
>>I am from a place, so I know everything about it
Yes.
>other people have wasted their entire life studying.
Yes.

>>17745094
Nah you sound like a cunt desu senpai

>>17745212
>Germany was closed for renovations from 1938-1945
Jawohl mein Vorgesetzter.

>>17745223
Americans and their inferiority complex. It'll never stop being funny.

>>17745225

>>17745329
Offensively wrong, and yet probably delicious.

>>17744958
my gf and i rent a place in cork that's only 1000 a month, shits cash, i definitely recommend relocating if you can pull it off. Dublin is full of non-whites and eastern europeans anyways, the only actual irish people there all commute from out of town

>>17745329
surprised its 8%, i've never seen an oktoberfest that high in booze

>>17745428
"Imperial Oktoberfest"
I'm surprised it's not higher.

>>17745333
Americans should stick to their own abominations. Call them 'American [X]' so the rest of the world knows to avoid 'em. The only thing that matters to you people is high ABV.

>>17745442
see
>>17745445
I don't think germans would ever think of such an abomination

>>17745428
This isn't an Oktoberfestbier. It's an awful attempt at adopting and rebranding culture.

>>17745452
Probably not, which is why I'm surprised it's not 10+. Marzen's not exactly a light style.

>>17738657
Ik this isn't a hard liquor thread, but should I sip on whiskey tonight, or just make cocktails?

>>17745475
Germany had the option to keep their pale lagers to themselves. Instead they sent their best and brightest out into the world for sport and profit. Could this have turned out any other way?

>>17745487
What kind of mood are you in?

Good, neutral, mild anxiety? Cocktails. Spike that serotonin a little bit.

Masochistic, depressed, hyper? Sip on some brown. Keep it reasonable if you're not in a good mood.

>>17745286
I genuinely don't think of any other country m8. We don't need any of you

>>17745502
Depressed, but physically I have a lot of energy. Whiskey it is.

The non meme good American beer. 30 pack $15

>>17745491
Multiple generations of deterioration is what lead to Shiner Bock and "German" heritage beers in the US.

>>17745517
spoken like a 16 year old girl.

>>17745475
Actually typical American craft brewer Oktoberfest beers are much more closely linked to the traditional style. The Festbier they serve at Oktoberfest today is a rather modern invention

>>17745536
And so Eberhard Anheuser and Adolphus Busch drink Helles in Hell with Hitler.

>>17745566
Oh no you're right, Europe as a whole is a giant exporter of uh...oh jeez. Nothing important that we don't already make here. We literally don't need you brah

>>17744780
I'm poor and white and I drink malt liquor. It ain't a color thing around where I live. Just people getting through the day with only a couple bucks.

>>17745428
That plus the artwork is why you don't have to google it to know it's American.

I see this brand of beer everywhere but never see anybody buy it. What gives? QRD? Do they have anything good?

>>17739778
i didnt drink ipas for 10 years but had one of these out of necessity and ever since ive been hooked for the last 4 months. I stopped buying every other beer. good choice anon fuck these other ass hats

>>17745947
yes, you're a strong independent black woman.

Pilsner is the perfected ideal form of beer.

>>17745636
They will never be Oktoberfestbier. You'd need to brew you beers in Munich and serve them at the Oktoberfest. Any beer that was served 140+ years ago would have tasted different. I'm aware that pale Märzen as Oktoberfestbier is not the og style.

>>17738657
I know this isn't a cider thread, but does anyone know how i'd be able to get Rochdales cider (NZ) in the UK? I fucking love that stuff and i have absolutely no idea on how to get it other than having my brother ship over a crate at massive cost

>>17746833
It tastes like semen.
Not my semen, some other guys semen.

>>17744636
OMB is a great brewery, based in Charlotte NC with a beautiful beer garden and decent German food. I agree that their whole presentation when it comes to packaging is a bit jarring but the quality is top notch. The Altbier and Dunkel are my favorites, difficult to find styles here in the US.
>>17744958
Sounds like half the cities in the US, it’s a ball ache. Best of luck though and have fun, Ireland looks gorgeous
>>17745144
Good point, I consider myself fairly well versed in the German beers available in the US but didn’t consider that’s just a drop in the bucket compared to the billion breweries that cover Germany. Fortunately, the relatively young US beer industry has based itself for the most part on its European counterpart. Red Oak is another great North Carolina brewery adhering to the Reinheitsgebot, and Fortnight brewery in Raleigh has a strong British influence and their Bitter is excellent

>>17746584
but why? why would the goblinos/as do this to tradition?

>>17747347
>Good point, I consider myself fairly well versed in the German beers available in the US but didn’t consider that’s just a drop in the bucket compared to the billion breweries that cover Germany.
This probably applies to every countries export beers. But at least for Germany i can tell you most exported beers are obviously from huge groups like Carlsberg, InBev or Radeberger. And some even change recipes for export like Becks. Or some random brands with good marketing like Weihenstephaner that is praised here all the time while it's just mediocre. Or you get the meme style beers like Weizenbock, Doppelbock, Berliner Weiße, Gose, Rauchbier and other styles nobody buys just to show the variety and quality of German beers while in reality it's all about Pils, Helles, Export and Weizen.

I'm currently located in Germany and trying to sample each German beer, which seems like an impossible endeavor. A bottle of beer (0.5l) is usually sold for <1€ and I don't manage to drink all of the ones I buy. Some of their best before dates are long gone and I think it wouldn't do the beer justice to drink it when it's old.

>>17746921
Thanks, Muhammad

>>17747743
Anything for you mah queen. Would you like some delicious kebab? Oh I forgot, you don't have any.

>>17747857
Your wife's boyfriend is over? Yeah tell him to cook me up one quick. If it gets into their prayer time I can wait

>>17746967
It only started in like the 80s, its a recent change. Americans make the real stuff

>>17748201
>Americans make the real stuff
Hahaha, you burger boys are funny. Hmm, if only there were a distinctly American beer style you could be proud of.

>>17748313
Steambeer.
Westcoast IPA when done right.
The wads of fermented cash hoarded by ABInbevLGBTQ2+

>>17748201
The real stuff is called Märzen. Festbier or Oktoberfestbier is meant to be served at Oktoberfest - the only real loophole there would be if there were a local Oktoberfest - like in Berlin/Kitchener, Ontario - that your Märzen was licensed to be served at... or if you're one of the big six in Munich, and don't need a loophole.

>>17748336
>The real stuff is called Märzen
Again, why are you explaining this? This is common knowledge. Which German Märzen have you sampled?

>>17748313
Americans objectively do make traditional Oktoberfest beers something that Germans actually stopped doing

>>17748336
Yes, the big munich breweries used to make traditional oktoberfest beer and then in modern times stopped to save money. Exact same story as the US macro brewers devolution to light beer over the same time frame

>>17738657
Beer sucks I drink nothing but hard liquor and kiss my niece on the mouth while she sits on my lap

>>17748611
It's not served at Oktoberfest so it's not Oktoberfestbier. And as others pointed out already it's not even close to what beers tasted like 100 years ago.

>>17748326
>Westcoast IPA when done right.
Why specify West Coast?
Midwest and their child the NEIPA are better and more uniquely American

>>17748627
It is the beer traditionally sold at Oktoberfest, hence the name. You should be excited that American are willing to keep your traditions alive when your corporate brewers fail you

>>17748627
>what beers tasted like 100 years ago.
Dude, the modern Festbier is from like the 80s

>>17748635
Märzen is a meme style that died out. Today everything can be labeled Märzen and it's not really a distinct style. You could add red malt to every pale lager and sell it as Märzen nowadays.

>>17748635
>keep your traditions alive
You mean Märzen beers? Yeah, we've got those here in Germany. Pls keep your piss to yourself, cicerone fag.

>>17748652
>Märzen is a meme style that died out
Disagree, it really depends on the breweries you buy Märzen beer from. I don't like the ones from big Munich breweries. Most of the times they've a disproportionately strong boozyness to them. Have you had Austrian Märzen before?

>>17748643
What's your point? Back in the days other styles of beers were sold at Oktoberfest too. E.g Dunkel, Pils etc.

>>17748686
Austrian Märzen is something completely different. It's basically Helles.

>>17744717
It's cheap as fuck bro

>>17748629
They need to stabilize, and the Yakima Valley flavour is pretty uniquely American - it's difficult to make hops from around here taste like a spruce tree raped a grapefruit, and even more difficult to get that out of noble hops.

>>17748652
>Today everything can be labeled Märzen and it's not really a distinct style
Its a very distinct style in the US, the traditional style of Oktoberfest, very recognizable

>>17748759
American scientific hop breeding programs are an underrated aspect of why US beer is so good

>>17748766
They overdid the pinene and limonene for a bit, but I'm glad things are moving the other way. I just hope - with all the myrcene and farnesene heavy hops I'm seeing lately - that they don't start coming up with sour diesel super high alpha acid indica hops to go with turbo-kveik malt liquor. "Bro, man, guy! This beer's, like, so skunky! It'll totally lay you out bro!"
I think it's going the other way - more toward interesting flavour and cultivar stability than the god damned arms race it was (oddly borne out of trying to stabilize a few bittering hops), but I could see some asshole doing it, and other assholes buying into it.

>>17748792
>"Bro, man, guy! This beer's, like, so skunky! It'll totally lay you out bro!"
I would be pretty surprised if this is the way it goes

>>17748700
>It's basically Helles.
Wrong. A helles isn't as hop forward.

>>17748763
>the traditional style of Oktoberfest
Basically a rebranded version of Märzen?

>>17739785
Why do you have two watches on?

>>17748876
It's not like there would be no hoppy Helles. And then you're in the strange territory of mild ass pilseners, hoppy helles, export, Austrian Märzen, "lagers" and similar stuff where nobody can clearly differentiate between those.

>>17748875
Maybe it's different there, but the dudebros love vaping or smoking, killing a few too many Heinekens, and then nearly wrecking their Audis and Mercedes' a few times on their way home. With the right marketing plan, an Imperial DudePA... well hopefully it would kill these wannabe lorryshire-bourgeoisie off, ideally before they breed at 19. Is it too late to market Zyklon B as a vape?

>>17748948
Styles gonna style man, and with the tendency to differentiate very little from a popular style, but drift over a few hundred years, both here and there and elsewhere... yeah, there's going to be overlap. Clear lines drawn between most German, Austrian and American Märzen, and some as well between at least two of these and modern Festbier proper, but they get a bit more blurry as a brewer maybe takes pilsener recipe that's not quite selling, and ramps up some of the darker base malts with a touch of 20-60L. If he comes up with the idea in March, of course he's going to call it a Märzen, but it's going to be an outlier, maybe closer to an American red with European hops.

>>17748477
>Americans make the real stuff
By virtue of the name, Americans can't make real Oktoberfestbier - unless they're brewing it to be sold at Oktoberfest. That's all I'm getting at.
I've never had a large brewery Märzen that wasn't either actually sold (purchased, usually) in late September in München. I've had some of my friends and well-wishers in smaller breweries in Germany trade me some back and forth - they all claim it's a traditional recipe, and they're usually a bit different from each other, but always amber, always at least a little malty at first and fairly dry on the finish, always leaning toward some Hollertauer hop or another - usually fairly similar to the American ones I've tried, not as sweet on the finish. We don't get a lot of either in Amsterdam. My little pub's the only place I know of around here that sells anything even resembling Märzen, and it's only from the tap.

>>17748976
I agree about opportunistic brewers. That's why I trust reviews more than what's written on the label. Anybody who had enough Austrian Märzen can tell them apart from Helles. It's not that difficult and people who claim them to be the same just don't know what they're talking about.

>>17748880
Marzen and Oktoberfestbier were traditionally the same thing, and most American labels reflect this, often using both terms simultaneously

>>17749099
>By virtue of the name, Americans can't make real Oktoberfestbier - unless they're brewing it to be sold at Oktoberfest. That's all I'm getting at.
Thats absurd though because they make the traditional stuff. Just because a bunch of corporate bavarian brewers decided to stop making real Oktoberfestbier doesn't mean the people who do keep the tradition should stop referring to it as such

>>17749349
>should stop referring to it as such
They should. Just like any region locked food/beverage. You could call it an "American bastardization of an Oktoberfestbier" if you like.

>>17749412
>region locked
Go outside, touch grass, run your fingers through the leaves, live the kind of life to which you are entitled as God's finest animal

>>17749412
lol you can't bastardize your own beer and then complain when others don't follow you off the cliff

>>17749424
You country will never be recognized for good beer.

>>17749478
What countries do you think beer people consider the best?

>>17749465
Just like any American you lack culture to the extend of needing to adopt other country's. Too bad you got rid of slavery, which seems to be your only defining feature that you'll ever have. >>17749478

>>17749490
You understand that much of American was settled by Germans, right? They brought all that tradition with them, Milwaukee for instance had more German language newspapers than English until the world wars. These groups were largely led by liberals fleeing in the wake of Prussian imperial conquest of the rest of Germany after 1848's failed uprisings, so essentially these are far truer Germans than those who stayed behind to fight for the autocracy of prussian nobles and later wars against <checks notes>... the world

>>17749527

>>17749490
almost all of the world's best beer is American, you are fucking delusional if you think people who are into beer don't all understand this

Love me some Kölsch. Best Kölsch I ever had was in Australia (pic attached).
Also love Peroni. Bets Peroni I ever had was in Italy.
Random other beer I love is Karlovačko from Croatia.

>t. an Irishman

>>17749545
> American beer competition
> America wins
OMG, we are da best!!!! No one can make triple blueberry infused double choc milkshake stout sours like us.

>>17749527
All it takes are a few generation that accept less than perfect and well, here you're now.

>>17749634
>no American product can match our brettanomyces malt sloppa, moldy barrel aged, same recipe since 1551, truly based and tradpilled

>>17749646
Yes.

>>17749488
(Franconia & Thuringia & southern Saxony) and Bohemia

>>17749634
I'm not talking about any particular competition, Just look at any site where people rate beers, everyone agrees America makes the large majority of the best beers in the world

Simply go to an American bar, it doesn't even have to be particularly beer focused and you will have a better and wider variety to choose from than anywhere else in the world

>>17749666
Vade retro, Satana. I'm going to drink some American trappist ale just to spite you

>>17749670
Belgium is the only Euro destination worth talking about when it comes to beer

>stopping drinking altogether again since I put on 5lbs last month
It's over, have one for me

>>17749689
Based

>>17749634
America makes the best sours, IPAs, stouts, lagers. You can focus on the weird shit if you want, there are like 10k breweries in America mostly making 20-50 unique beers in a year so there is gonna be some weird shit, but there is also almost all of the best beer the world has ever known

>>17749646
Correct, respect your elders mutt

>>17749634
They literally do. This isn't the 90s anymore faggot.

>>17749682
> American beer rating website
> American user base
> rate all new hops abominations highly
Shocking.
>

>>17749708
>old thing good
Better reply to this post without the aid of a computer because it's tradder that way, retard
PO box 14709, Lexington, KY

>>17749689
I guess so if you've got a kids pallet. (Obv except Belgian sour beers)

>>17749722
Do the German sites suggest anything different?
You understand the US government doesn't own these sites, they are internationally available, there are many international beers that aren't available in the US and therefore have reviews mostly done by locals on these sites. Similarly, US beer nerds fucking love Belgian, German and Czech beer, to posit that they willfully underrate them so the US will on aggregate have higher rated beer seems rather absurd. This conspiracy of yours needs a little more thought

>>17749735
lol at a guy saying pale lagers are the best beer in the world telling anyone else they have a child's pallet

>>17749750
To play devil's avocado it isn't exactly the mark of a sophisticated adult's palate to drink novelty hop bombs or fruited sours

>>17749744
>Do the German sites suggest anything different?
Yes. The majority of your beers are rated terrible. You've got no sense of creating balanced beers. Every flaw in your beer is compensated by 2x hops. You jumped into the sea before you learned how to swim.

>>17749757
While I will definitely agree that the fruit bomb sours popular with some people (my wife) are basically just drinking a smoothie and have little to do with beer, they are hardly typical of the bulk of US beer, quite unlike pale lagers to that other guy

>>17749750
>pale lagers
Spotted the village idiot.

>>17749794
please link

>>17749808
Any German beer rating website.

>>17749816
Whats the top one?

>>17749708
>mutt

Uh huh foreigner

>>17748892
Why don't you?

what is an IPA, and hoe does it differ from regular beer?

>>17749990
It's a type of beer that members of the East India company drank before and after ravaging the large breasted indian women. It had to be shipped to India from Great Britain so the hop/alcohol content is generally higher for preservation purposes

>>17748621
based

>>17749686
From St. Joes?

>>17749634
There's access to everything in the US. Even shipping things from half the world away doesn't make the beer prohibitively expensive to make - just bump the price up and people will still buy it. There's a wide enough range in climate that most hops and grains will grow, and a large enough macro and micro brewing culture that labs are a reasonably big thing. It only makes sense that they'd crank out good beer. I'm kind of surprised that Japan stopped sperging out at dry lagers - that sarariman mentality and "Anything you can do, America, we can do better!" spirit should lend themselves to a near constant top-5... instead, it's Orion, Asahi and Sapporo.

But... as >>17749646 was mocking, anything involving terroir is probably going to be better in the old world, where there are centuries of yeast culture literally living in the walls. Given time, some west coast areas, and maybe an old converted church in the north of Louisiana could probably make some great wild ales, but there's no real incentive.

>>17750612
Spencer, actually.

>>17750762
That's St. Joseph's Abbey. You've only got one lol.

>>17750612
>>17750762
Lol I thought you might be talking about a saint actually formally named 'Joe,' of course I mean St. Joseph's

>>17750766
Who cares. Trappist ales are overrated shit. Chimay is the only one I'll buy and even then I'd take anything from unibroue or Ommegang over em

>>17751340
>Trappist ales are overrated
Based. Lived in Holland for 4 years and had access to pretty much all Belgian Trappist beers. They taste like sugary, spiced up Bock beers (I know they're ales), which for some reason ameritards fall for. I've had bock beers that were more aromatic while being brewed with less ingredients.

>>17750671
New hops strains and their inability to fully utilize basic ingredients is what makes american beers different. I've had many US micro/craft beers and sadly, none of them were balanced. E.g. intense hop flavors to mask off malt off flavors; adding cloves to beer, kek.

>Japan doesn't fall for the craft meme
They are. Those beers are just not available outside of Japan. In the past decade+ many new craft beer breweries have opened but their beers and are usually extremely expensive. I remember paying ~1000¥ or more for 300-400ml craft beers.

>>17738657
Just found out lagers are memes and basically all taste the same.
Where do I go from here?

>>17753377
>lagers are memes and basically all taste the same
Lard man detected.

>>17752614
The last time I was in Japan, we found one place that had anything that wasn't whiskey, beer, or rice... and yeah, a million yen for a night out. Sucks to that assmar.

>>17753377
well... darker lagers, ales, lagered ales, steam beer (aled lager). Beer comes in lots of flavours, and if you don't like any of them, there's other stuff to drink.

Do you retards know it's completely possible to like IPAs, lagers and even Belgian beers simultaneously? They're not mutually exclusive.

>>17753455
I like them, but I don't know if I'd drink them at the same time. Hoppy banana with a dry finish doesn't seem great to me right now.

>>17747638
you can drink beer long after the best before. It has to be at least a half year over to really taste different. I sell beer kegs and usually after the summer season I have one or two left over ones that are a few months over that I can write off and drink them with friends at parties.

t. beverage shop owner

>>17746833
I like them and their Snake Dog IPA was the first IPA I ever had. To this date also probably the most bitter. It travels really well overseas, better so than any other American IPA I've had.

verdict?
>>17744395
based lad

>>17753940
Good for a snack, and fits on your back... as far as milk stouts go, I think they're the one I like best out of anything I can get any time. Some of my local guys do seasonals that crush it, but sometimes I'm in the mood for one outside of Nov-Feb.

>>17753779
I buy glass bottled beers and they're not in a temperature controlled environment (my pantry). Dunno if they're going to last as long as kegs. My thinking was that judging a beer based on one that is old might not be doing it justice.

>>17752614
they have this weird barley tax there, beer made in japan is dumb expensive

This Polish lager is pretty tasty. Nothing special, but nice drinking.

>>17745424
>if you can pull it off
I need a job elsewhere REEEEEEEEEE
>>17747347
thank you mate
>>17747638
buy Schneider tap 6 and be done with trying anything else

downing the second pint of pic related after a real unsettling day at work, and then going back to at least one pint of Foreign Extra
the West Indies is a bit more bland and anonymous, a more acidic, a lot less sweet, which makes it better to drink at diner imo, less chocolatey and less complex, though it's the drink with the highest alcohol to price ratio I can get in this hell so here I am

I also have a guy with many many years of experience in brewing beer at work, and he's a bit of a nerd so he likes having someone to talk to about the more technical aspects of beer and its productions, if you autists have any questions on that topic I'll be happy to rely them to him when I get the chance

>>17755046
this is pic related

>>17754899
Probably my fav Polish lager. I was caught off guard by the slight passion fruit & lime hops flavors. No boozyness at all but those 6% will get to you if you drank two or more cans.

>>17755084
I don't like Lomza.
But I like Zubr, take that as you want

>>17755098
Arr taste same

>>17748652
Burger batti boys are so fucking delusional.
Go eat some more McDonalds

>>17749990
there is no such thing as a "regular beer", every beer has a style. all the cheap bullshit you drink are likely pilsners and lagers.
IPA differs from pilsners and lagers because it has a more resiny bitter hop-forward flavor, compared to the bready wheaty grainy flavors of pilsner and lager. Some substyles of IPA are more citrusy or unfiltered.

stop being a fucking retard and stop thinking that there's such thing as "regular normal" beer, and stop drinking cheap globohomo swill "beer"

>>17755046
here's what we're doing, moving to the UK, it's cheaper than ireland and the job market is better. We both have interviews lined up for work

>>17755121
In North America, "regular beer" is adjunct-heavy lightened "Pilsner", closer to a rice/corn syrup helles. It is literally that cheap globohomo swill.

>>17755130
>cheaper
I'm told London's housing situation is about as bad as Dublin
>job market
isn't that only better if you're looking to do a service job that eastern europeans would typically do if the UK was still in the EU?

>>17755133
It's pretty much the malt liquor of beers.

>>17755143
... malt liquor is the malt liquor of beers.

>>17755148
It says it's liquor in the name

>>17755156
and barleywine has wine in the name. Both are species of beer. Liquor made from barley would be a whiskey or vodka of sorts.

>>17755098
>>17755105
What happened to your taste buds?! Lomza & Zubr are distinguishable.

>>17755115
Not even American. Just had to many Märzen that were too different to take that style serious.

>>17749852
Imagine coping this hard just to LARP as European, colour isn't the only thing that makes you a mutt.

>>17755140
fuck london, we're going to bristol which is way cheaper than dublin and london. Still pricy but not impossible especially since we're now both certified in our field. We both work in secondary education and as long as you're not a retard who teaches art there's a lot of jobs available.

>>17755211
Lomza, Zubr, Tyskie, Zywiec, Lech, arr taste same.

>>17755140
>service job
Nah it pertains to anything. Bigger country, bigger gdp and population, all of those bring more opportunities. The UK is one of the top economies in the world so long as you have a desirable skill, just like any other country desu, if you fill in a gap in the job market you'll get a visa or hired