/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17712304
You're a very clever person. Now go back to r/showerthoughts.

>>17712304

>>17712317
it's this but also the evolutionary nature of language. For whatever reason beef and pork were adopted over cow and pig, most likely due to cultural sensitivities.

>>17712304
Because for a long time only the French speaking nobles were eating beef and mutton, while the English speaking peasants were stuck with eating chicken and fish.

>>17712313
thank you

>>17712317
>>17712328
Doesn't that kinda ignore the fact that French does this shit, too?
Living cow: vache. Meat cow: bœuf.
Living pig: cochon. Meat pig: porc.

Italian also does it but to a much lesser degree. Oddly, 'porco' is for the animal only while "maiale" can be used for both the animal and its meat (both meaning "pig" if it wasn't obvious).

Cow and bull mean male and female but for animals. I guess we all know by context but cow can mean elephant cow too.

>>17712426
It gets deeper than that. You even use different words depending on the animal's use. Ox, for example, is just a working cow or bull (ie one that pulls a cart or a plow or something like that).

>>17712317
>personal family lineage goes back to the picts in scotland and multiple kings of moray, with living dukes holding the same seats to this day
>born a poorfag american millenial in the midwest

fucking kek, isn't life strange?

>>17712437
Oxen are castrated bulls.

>>17712398
Could be from different dialects. Back in the Middle Ages (especially early on), what was spoken in various regions of France wasn't entirely mutually intelligible.

>>17712398
Doesn’t compare to Spain where they eat in museos and look at art in restaurantes

>>17712317

Don't have a cow, man!

>>17712317
bongsters BTFO

>>17712868
>you VILL eat ze shorts

>>17712699
No, sorry. Oxen are literally any bovine used to work/pull shit. A castrated bull is a steer but many steers are used as oxen so I can see how you may have fudged that one.

>>17712304
>So why isn't beef called cow and pork called pig?
beef got it's name from the french word for cow.
pork from the english word for pig.

Because of class division in england

>>17712398
Something left out of that post that's sort of implied is that French words took on an air of refinement in the English speaking world because of their new association with nobility. It's also the reason why in polite company you might call someone's butt their "derriere" instead of their "ass." So when you're in a rural setting dealing with a shitting and pissing animal there's no need for refinement but at the dinner table maybe drop some French here and there to seem more "chic" while you order your "boeuf" "a la cart"

>>17713640
One would never speak of one's backside in polite society, Anon. A non-U speaker might, but a gentleman never could.

>>17712304
Wonder where you got your comedy bit?

>>17714680
you must not be british

>>17712304
eating an entire chicken or an entire fish isn't out of the ordinary

>>17712317
>be me (good goy)
>get a dna test
>50% anglo, 20% french, 20% germ, 10% nord
>mfw
feels good to be above the peasants

>>17712304
It used to be but not anymore due to the norman conquest like this anon >>17712317 posted.

Other more purer germanic languages still call it their language's equivalent of swineflesh and cowflesh.

>>17712548
You're American, always will be American and nobody in the UK will indulge your fantasies. When you die they will put "American" on your tombstone and your parents will mourn their American child.
YWNBARS (you will never be a real Scot)

>>17717536
>be me
>Tejas chad
>visit London with my family
>eventually reach the customs agent
>my mom randomly says "these are your people" in an accusatory tone
>customs agent looks at us like we just pissed on his mother's grave

>>17717012
A fun activity is when you hear about a rich aristocratic brit look up their last name, 90% of the time it's French in origin because their class system is still going strong baby