/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Waldorf salad is underrated

For me, it's the McChicken

>>17659053
Watch Townsends and sons on YouTube.

>>17659053
Old fashioned corn chowder, to die for seriously

>>17659053
Steak Diane.

>>17659074
Steak is pretty normal and don't call me Diane

>>17659060
Townsends kicks it really old school, very cool channel

>>17659053
Pot raost and TATOES

guys please stap u make me hungry all of a sudden

Sloppa

>>17659053
when was the last time you had a nice salisbury steak? Chicken ala king?

>>17659320
>nice salisbury steak
literally never
i've only eaten the microwaved ones and they fucking suck so much ass that i don't even wanna try a real one

>>17659324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFCiUstuo8I

make your own, they are great.

>>17659053
Meatloaf. Corn pudding. Chitlins. Pease porridge. Scrapple.

>>17659074
Steak Diane is great
It's everything cooking tv tells you is a no-no
Filet (WORST CUT!!!!) sliced thin and cooked proper well (EVERYTHING MUST BE RARE!!!!!) then slathered in gravy (NO SAUCE ON STEAK PLEBES!!!!!)
It's fucking great
Old school restaurants will still serve it and it's always a good meal

>>17659320
I make salisbury steaks a few times annually, both the beat-the-shit-out-of-a-shoulder-steak version and the burger patty version. I've made chicken a la king twice. Is good.

>>17659340
Literally all of those are common, wtf are you on about?

>>17659064
First thing I ever cooked without supervision, though not an American version, I don't think. Was my aunt's recipe and she's a nipnong.

>>17659053
The American curries, country captain and chicken divan. Love both them shits. Are there other Americurries? I'm not native to this country so I'm not super familiar with your forgotten foods as of yet.

>>17659667
no, he's right, meatloaf has fallen out of style. It isn't eaten by younger generations because of a bad rap, and some of it deserved. Bad meatloaf is really bad. Really good meatloaf is divine.

Penis Inspection Day Pudding

>>17659053
Sea bass en croute was big in the 80s and then disapeared

>>17659698
Really? That's surprising. It's just essentially a baked, giant meatball. In fact, my language's name for literally translates to English as "big meatball." Being that everyone loves meatballs, what's not to like?

Anyway, I make meatloaf a few times annually. Love that shit, but I don't do it Ameristyle with the ketchup glaze. Nothing against it, just not what I do.

>>17659737
Fuck off, Eurotrash.

>>17659737
Our version of meat loaf has hardboiled eggs in the middle, it's Central European

>>17659331
I haven't eaten a meal in over 2 years but now I'm hungry. thanks anon, sheeesh

>>17659737
Meat balls or even frikadelles have a better surface ratio. So even if they are underseasoned they have a tasty crust. Underseasoned meatlof on the other hand is often dry and not a pleasure to eat.

Jello Salad -> Fried Brain sando -> Watergate Cake three course meal

>>17659737
America had kind of a 'dark age' of food where we ended up putting everything in food where it didn't belong -
olives and carrots in meatloaf for example
it has carried on in some families due to the boomers, and therefore is not well liked
it isn't made the older way in may places

>>17659053
I used to like going into a local diner an exposing myself to the teen waitress in the 90s. Unfortunately it's closed now.

Dutch retard here. I have acquired 2 nice t bone steaks. Normally id use butter and garlic but this time I only have a grill pan, or a normal flat non stick pan and olive oil. Is it possible to prepare a t bone steak in olive oil without problems? I have garlic and a garden full of fresh herbs

>>17659698
Liver and onions is similar although I k ow many people refuse to try it just because of the ingredients. But it used to be an American staple.

>>17659053
boiled corn and venison

>>17659053
syllabub
turtle soup
Baked Alaska
oysters Rockefeller
cream of peanut soup
coontie bread
Johnny cakes

>>17659886
Nesselrode
Rhubarb pie
Stockfish

>>17659737
thanks for the opinion, eurofag, but the thread is about AMERICAN food.

>>17659871
Liver and onions. The best.

>>17659942
Flyover Cletus detected

>>17659831
Doesn’t your butter burn when you cook steaks with it as your only fat source?

>>17659352
Steak Diane isn't supposed to be well done, and steak is always served with a sauce in traditional French fine dining.

>>17659060
Not watching that anti-white crapola, I want to talk food not politics

>>17659787
olives in meatloaf is good you're just a child

>>17659737
It's not at all like a meatball, it's hard to explain

>>17659092
>Steak is pretty normal and don't call me Diane
Kek

>>17660313
It's less springy

>>17659053
Turtle Soup used to be popular, I remember my grandparents talking about how much they liked it

>>17659911
I made strawberry-rhubarb pie early last autumn. Does that count?

>>17659886
The only thing I know about syllabub is that it's mentioned in a Tori Amos song.

>>17659751
Italy here. The south does this and serves it plain. The north, which is closer to central Europe, serves it with gravy, usually onion or onion-and-mushroom. That's how I do it.

>>17659939
>>17659746
I've been more constructive to the conversation than you have, friends. Try doing the same.

>>17659053
Does anyone eat succotash anymore? Like, is it a regional thing? I live in the northeastern US and no one here seems to know what it is. I make it from time to time and brought a salad version I made to a cookout once but no-one knew wtf it was. It was well-liked, but unfamiliar.

>>17659074
I used to go to this old steak house in my city and they used to serve Steak Diane table side and flambe it with a shot of brandy. It was amazing, unfortunately they closed down years ago.

Thanks for reminding me about it, I think I will try to make it myself and look for some old recipes.

>>17660370
Isn't that how steak au poivre is usually served? I've never had steak diane, but if that's the case, how does it differ from steak au poivre?

>>17660383
I'm not sure, I haven't tried steak au poivre before. It could be prepared similar, maybe it's just served with a different kind of sauce. I'll look into it

>>17659060
>Townsends and sons
they sjw?

>>17659827
Where do you go to expose yourself now?

>>17660383
>>17660412
Au poivre refers to the peppercorns

>>17660415
Not even remotely.

>>17660436
Yes, I know. I speak French. So steak diane doesn't have pepper, then?

>>17660415
ORANGE FOOL

>>17660465
It seems like it's more of a creamy mushroom gravy with lots of Worcestershire sauce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M71U5Ls3NBc

>>17660383
Diane is the sauce/garniture, au poivre just refers to pepper. Mostly that the steak itself is strongly seasoned with often rough grounded (black or green) pepper corns. It doesn't demand a sauce. Traditional pepper sauce is also rather served with game meats.

Most “good” traditional dishes aren’t “forgotten”; the ones that are forgotten are things that were simply trends at the time.
An exception would be things that were popular/traditional but suffered from sudden ingredient-unavailability due to laws or otherwise.
Turtle soup would be a good example.

>>17659053
Im gen x and my dead grandparents cooked differently. Great grandma use to kill a live chicken and fry it. All the grandparents would make homemade egg noodles and make chicken or beef and noodles. Alot of their "salads" were maeshmellow messes.

>>17660487
There are still plenty veal dishes in the tradition of turtle ones but people still don't care for them. It's all about the turtle herbs anyways.

>>17660415
No, he doesn't even talk about politics

>>17659053
Found this box in my grandfather's garage. Did people used to go to hotels for good steaks hence the term "hotel style"? I guess high end hotels often have nice restaurants so it makes sense but seems like an old school thing.

I'd love to know more about some of the cuts. Wtf is a Spencer steak

I'd love to go back in time to the like the 70s and try one of those fancyish restaurants
I wonder if NYC has any places like this

>>17659698
this diner by my old house used to serve meatloaf every thursday night but the key was to go on friday when they'd use the leftover meatloaf on sandwiches- sliced thin and stacked on fresh sourdough with red onion and their own version of thousand island dressing. I still replicate that a few times per year but it's never nearly as good as theirs.

>>17660415
>sjw

what year is it

>>17660637
Typical racist response. Trump lost btw.

>>17659787
>olives and beef do NOT go together
>'dark age' of food
fucking retard

I want to try a Kentucky hot brown

>>17659698
Meatloaf is a standard NJ diner dish.

>>17660628
Back in the really old pre-WWII days a lot of hotels had really good restaurants associated with them. That kind of died out as chain restaurants took over.

chicken cordon bleu was a standard steam table dish back before the 2000s. I think the amount of cheese scared people off.

>>17660095
>Steak Diane isn't supposed to be well done
Are you fucking high? Thin slices of filet will be proper well by default
>steak is always served with a sauce in traditional French fine dining
This is true
My comment is about cooking TV, they always rant about not putting sauce on steak
Ironically steakhouses keep a tub of butter in the kitchen to ladle over the steaks, and the same no sauce ever people will lionize French cooking where a steak is considered undersauced if you can still see the meat

>>17660644
yep, knew this would be devisive. Sorry, I make a mean meatloaf and it is sans olives. I've had it with olives, and it just isn't superior.
>>17660632
Interesting. I can see why red onion would compliment. I usually make a very mild gravy with my meatloaf and serve as-is, had considered mushroom side but usually go with good ol' mashed potatoes.
>>17660807
Diners don't really exist the same way outside of the tristate.

>>17660854
>My comment is about cooking TV, they always rant about not put
I've watched cooking shows my whole life, and I've never heard this come up. You should put bottled steak sauce on steak, but nobody ever says not to put a homemade sauce on steak. You're absolutely delusional if you think that's a common talking point.

Also, it's entirely possible to still have some pink in the middle when cooking thin cut steaks

>>17659787
i had a chili with olives in it once...surprisingly good

>>17659787
>he doesn't put mirepoix in his meatloaf
pleb

>>17660415
If you're still thinking about that Orange Fool thing, you should really be seeing a psychiatrist.

>>17661606
Hard pass on carrots in meatloaf, the texture just isn't right

>>17661989
you saute the carrots so they're not hard dude. it's not rocket science

>>17659871
>>17659942
I got filtered by liver and onions. The liver was pebbly and bland-tasting.

>>17659053
All the classics on the menu at Coon Chicken Inn

>>17662392
You eat liver because it's super healthy for you more so than the taste
Try it with A1 sauce, it matches with liver surprisingly well

>>17662434
I thought liver and onions is supposed to be pub food though? I was expecting it to be salty and fried.

>>17660383
Different sauce and the au poivre is encrusted with peppercorns

>>17661989
I run them through a food processor until they're down to almost nothing.
>>17659787
The trick that they don't tell you about meatloaf is to basically double the vegetable content compared to most recipes.
Massively improves the taste compared to standard meatloafs.

>>17659053
Tomato gravy on biscuits.

>>17659092
Based Airplane enjoyer

Try showing that movie to a zoomer. They will be so confused.

>>17660100
They are literally apolitical

>>17662396
>1488 Sandy Blvd
Holy shit

>>17662494
Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da help!

>>17662506
that has to be an edit

Ever look up the menus from the titanic?

>>17659053
Delmonico's 1917

Most steamed vegetable dishes are gone.
As are cream of [Insert Vegetable] soups, outside of some bisques.
A lot of sauces that would be combined with things like lobster or fine beef. Bernaise sauce or sauce Americaine are pretty outdated for most people. People nowadays are all in on 'tasting the meat', otherwise known as putting very little seasoning on it.
A lot of potato dishes have died out especially. Potatoes duchess or dauphine or chantilly or others are all really old school in most views.
But much of this is just classic French cooking dying off.

For more specifically American-centric cookery,
Turtle as a food item is basically gone. As is mutton.
Table side dishes like salsbury steak or steak diane or bananas foster are a basically a dead art.

>>17660100
>anti-white
holy shit dude touch grass, I've never heard them talk about race or politics

>>17662552
I think you can get a double bacon cheeseburger at Delmonico's nowadays for like $21.

>>17662560
How the mighty have fallen

>>17659053
Amerivan goulash....its basically OG hamburger helper

>>17662552
God whenever i see these old menus my mouth starts watering

>>17662555
It’s a falseflagging retard, ignore him

>>17662844
Same. That's what inspired me to make this thread
American restaurants these days tend to be: burgers, dry grilled chicken breast, tendies, basic soups, salmon

>>17662552
A huge portion of that menu was cut just a few years later when Prohibition went into effect. They had to empty their wine cellar, remove any dish which was cooked with wine or liquor (this included the terrapin, though that was also removed due to sourcing difficulties), and there was also a ban on serving wild game in New York City. They lost a lot of their wealthier customers who had now begun to dine at home where they could enjoy their own wine. Delmonico's apparently tried to entice them back by serving liquor under the table but they were raided and eventually went out of business in 1923. Prohibition's effect on the upscale American restaurant scene was pretty huge.

Delmonico's turned into a generic name later and there have been a number of Delmonico's not run by the Delmonico family, including the modern Delmonico's steakhouse.
http://www.steakperfection.com/delmonico/History.html

>>17659737
American meatloaf is like a big burger patty drenched in ketchup. It’s disgusting

>>17659871
Because liver is glorified offal, which has always had a stigma of being poverty food. It’s barely a step above horsemeat, which also used to be fairly common. People ate it as a staple because nicer cuts of beef were prohibitively expensive. Now that even low-income families can afford to regularly eat beef, there’s no reason to force yourself to eat organs anymore.

>>17660628
Historically, the term ‘hotel’ was associated with the big fancy high-rise hotels in places like New York; think Waldorf and Ritz-Carlton. These places exclusively served very high-class clientele, and thus typically had very high-end restaurants as well. A lot of the earliest michelin star restaurants were hotel restaurants.

>>17660631
>70s
Try the pre-1950s.

>>17662450
Healthy and cheap are not mutually exclusive

>>17662944
>there’s no reason to force yourself to eat organs anymore.
Nutritional content of liver can't be beat. It's very convenient.

>>17662969
Try the pre-1920s before prohibition and conservation acts killed traditional haute cuisine.

>>17662969
the 70s would still be a lot different IMO

>>17662944
then why are liver and kidney still super popular in China even among the wealthy?

My granduncle was a francophile and gourmet chef, he would always make this amazing Franco-American cuisine. He passed away a few years ago and I wish I appreciated this more while he was still alive.
He would make:
>delicious fish appetizer with this light pink cream sauce
>venison stew with french fries cooked in goose fat
>duck breast with cherry sauce
>melon with cassis for dessert

>>17663077
Because they are insects, and they have only had something approaching a first world level of living for about 15 years.

>>17663147
Or have Americans just been first world for so long that we became picky and only want to eat burgers and tendies?

>>17663147
Mexicans make some pretty good offal

>>17662555
Lmao /pol/tard still mad that a drink called Orange fool existed in history

>>17659053
organ meats and aspic come to mind

>>17663376
are any organ meats actually good?

>>17663383
Yeah, but they're easy to overcook and ruin.

lots of organs and squirrels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boKs5JdaX2s

>>17663392
I watch a lot of Chinese cooking videos and they cook the organ meats for a very short period of time, makes sense now
Just a little stir fry on high heat and then it's ready

>>17660415
I wouldn't let them into my dairy

Those old school duck dishes sound appetizing

>>17662552
it's a shame really, a well made bearnaise sauce the superior steak accompaniment and should never go out of fashion

>>17662886
Thats sad to hear

>>17660370
Next time you're in New Orleans, friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4siVAxxhTVc
>>17660383
>>17660412
>>17660436
>>17660485
>>17662459
OK this is getting a little weird
Steak Diane is thinly sliced steak served covered with a brown gravy and potatoes on the side
Steak Diane is the most traditional, basic steak dish there is, restaurants gussy it up some with fancy ingredients but ultimately it's meat, brown gravy and potatoes
Steak au poivre is a classic French recipe
It does not just mean steak encrusted with peppercorns, that would be pepper steak
Traditional steak au poivre is steak cooked with peppercorns which flavor the pan sauce, the sauce is integral
A lot of steak houses serve an au poivre sauce by request, in France the steak is smothered with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGMJ1MjuI4

>>17660361
Based and levelheaded attitude. Don't let the mutts grind you down.

Tell me more about this big meatball, what would you traditionally serve it with/as?

>>17664212
That's a modern pepper sauce. Traditional sauce au poivre is nothing like that but made with mirepoix, marinade, vinegar and sauce espagnole. The game version also often with mustard and lingonberry or currant jam.

>>17662494
tbf, a lot of the gags are dated in that they're specific to their time

>>17660415
Yes.

>>17664406
I just watched it again last night.
I was laughing my ass off most of the movie.
There's so much shit in there that you miss if you're not paying attention.

Having a captain named Roger, and a co pilot with the last name Over.
I will admit though a lot of the Kareem Abdul Jabbar shit would be lost on zoomers

>>17659320
A good homemade salisbury steak is top-tier.

>>17664416
>Kareem Abdul Jabbar lost on zoomers
this is true, but that gag might have it's own surreal appeal in that the copilot in one scene is dressed as a pilot; when in the very next cut he's dressed as a pro basketball player wearing goggles when he's dragged from the cockpit. Pure dadaist!

>>17662941
A burger with ketchup is disgusting? God you Eurofaggots are so far up your own asses.

>>17659059
hi 3-for-free!

>>17663077
>China
come on, you know they eat the most vile shit

>>17663150
I think some of it is this case. Whenever I go into the supermarket, the meats are very sanitized, there is no offal, nothing like that, unless you prepare whole chicken that has it, you won't know what it is, or eat it

>>17662886
Fuck prohibition and prohibitionists. Disgusting infected appendix of that "hygienist" movement of the late 1800s.

>>17663403
Damn lol hotdogs BTFO!

>>17664212
Diane in my experience is pounded fillet or other tender cut.
Cooked fast, and served with a brown sauce with heavy use of flambe and cream.

>>17662493
Ha! That's an actual thing? I make something like that from time to time when I want biscuits and gravy but want some actual veg in my meal, too.
Mine is crumble cooked American "Italian" sausage, flour to make a roux, chopped onion, green peppers and tomato to mount the roux and, finally, tomato juice to make it into a gravy.

>>17664250
Thanks. Not much more to tell. It's just mince mixed with a starchy binder (breadcrumb or whathaveyou) and wine-caramelised onion, formed into a loaf and baked until done.
What fat renders out is collected and used to make the gravy with mushrooms, onion and mushroom broth. It's served with mash (or mushroom risotto) as well as eggy peas. Nothing special, really, but very, very good.

>>17659053
Old menu from Ivars in Seattle circa the 60s I think

>>17660778
Isn't that when you fart under the covers, but a little bit of shit comes out and you make the girl lick it off?

>>17659352
>Filet (WORST CUT!!!!)
what?

>>17665502

>>17665577
Cooking TV people all like to claim filet mignon is inferior
The cut is very tender but it has a mild flavor and little fat content
The idea is a well marbled cut will be juicier (correct) and cuts from muscles that work harder are tougher but have more robust flavor
The obvious answer to the lower fat content and mild flavor is to add a sauce, which moistens the steak and enhances flavor
But if you are a never add sauce to steak purist you have painted yourself into a corner where obvious answers no longer work for you

>>17659871
Oh yeah, I used to get that a lot just to be contrarian. Great stuff when it's done right.

>>17659667
WTF are you smoking? I've never seen chitlins in a restaurant. Never seen pease porridge in the wild either (split pea soup doesn't count, it's not the same). Corn pudding, the only place I've ever seen it was at some crappy "historical" restaurant in Boston where the servers dressed up in costume.

>>17660359
It's not that it's unpopular nowadays, it's that it's unobtainable. Sea turtles are pretty severely endangered.

Go read Douglas Adams' book "Last Chance to See" some time -- his chapter on the baiji dolphin ends with some woman writing him that she and her husband had been served two at a banquet in China. There were maybe a couple of dozen in the wild at the time, and the Chinks dredged one up and killed both it and its baby just to serve at a fancy banquet for a foreign couple who had done something important there.

>>17665620
>Cooking TV people all like to claim filet mignon is inferior

Literally what planet are you from? It is one of the most expensive and prized cuts on a cow you dumbass.

>>17663077
Because the lower classes in China eat cardboard dumplings and drink melamine milk.

Here's a 1920 navy cookbook.

https://maritime.org/doc/pdf/cookbook1920.pdf

Has such treats as beef hearts and beef kidneys, American fries and boild turnips. Most of the food is either boiled or fried.

>>17665908
In America, "turtle soup" was typically made with the common snapping turtle, which has never been near endangered (though it's still a protected species anyways).
Terrapin has been mentioned a couple times in this thread, which referred to the diamondback terrapin which DID become near endangered in the 20th century. Conservation efforts and a decline in popularity during the prohibition era have largely restored their population, though there's significantly less land suitable for them due to urban expansion.

>>17662552
...this is in cents, right?

>>17665948
Yes. Depending on how you adjust it, a US dollar back then is equivalent of around $20 now.

>>17661610
I don't care, nor did I ever care about the orange fool fiasco but that shit was clearly played up, though I do believe him when he said it was a coincidence that it happened to be the orange fool.
>Trump's first July 4th as president
>Peak Trump hysteria
>Original title to the effect of "a dessert fit for a president" and "Orange Fool..." In the thumbnail
It probably was coincidence that the orange fool was that week, but the date and title were no accident.

>>17663085
>>duck breast with cherry sauce
sounds like heaven

>>17665889

>>17666230
There used to be a restaurant near me that had that on the menu. I used to order until twice in a row it came out with floppy, unpleasant skin. Idk what happened, if the chef had been replaced or what but they went under at some point after I stopped going.

>>17659886
>cream of peanut soup
Okay I might actually have to make this, sounds tasty af

>>17659053
Liver and onions is good. SOS is also one of my favorite meals. My grandma made it for me as a kid and was bewildered when I loved it so she would make it for me a lot when I visited. Also her turkey wild rice soup after thanksgiving was the best. Miss you grandma

>>17666230
Yeah it was really good. He made it on the rarer side which my mom didn't like but I did, it was like a really juicy chicken thigh but with even better flavor

>>17665889
I saw them on a menu at a chicken place a month ago

>>17659320
had a la king leftovers for dinner
thank you based chef john

>>17662552
I read on twitter a while back that mutton was actually more expensive on restaurant menus in the early 20th century. On the Titanic, first class passengers were served mutton chops the same night that second class passengers were served lamb, for example. Not sure why that is. Maybe because mutton requires more skilled preparation?
>>17664617
Liver is pretty widely available at supermarkets in my experience. That's the only one I ever see though (unless you count the hearts that are mixed in with the chicken livers sometimes). There are tons of traditional offal dishes which are near-extinct. Tripe for example I only ever see at real old-school Italian restaurants or at Italian festivals. I hear it's a bit more common in the southwest though.

>>17667117
*more expensive than lamb

>>17662494
I'm a zoomer and I loved airplane. All my zoomie friends love it too. I don't get the endless zoomer shit.

>>17667117
An animal you have to raise to adulthood is naturally going to be more expensive than an animal you slaughter as a baby.

>>17662519
It's from some movie from the early 2000s

>>17667117
At my local supermarket, they have all kinds of offal like liver, kidneys, tripe.
We don't have a lot of Asians here, so I wonder who buys it

>>17659053
>nyc
not even once

>>17667117
I can say safely that there is no liver at my supermarkets. Interesting. There is not a big Italian presence here so that might have something to do with it. It's all beaners. So, we have chorizo, not liver.

>>17665915
While it may be so, there's like no fat on it at all. Thus TV presenters say it's boring.

>>17667117
any good pho place will have a bowl with some tripe and beef tendon in it, it's delicious

>>17664418
someone please explain to me how a salisbury steak isn't just a hamburger.

>>17667549
It's more like a small meatloaf, or a large meatball. You add more to it than just the beef. I do sometimes pour some beef gravy over leftover hamburger patties though. That's the 'West Side of Salisbury' Steak.

>>17667549
Serving style and accoutrements. Much like how you wouldn't usually call a "patty melt" a burger.

>>17663383
Heart, tastes almost like regular meat

>>17667561
>>17667567
okay, that makes sense. thanks for the explanation. never had it.

>>17667329
Mexicans eat other offals like stomach and intestines though

>>17667621
I might be able to find it at maybe mexican supermarkets, but its the usual chicken, beef cuts, thats it, nothing fancy. Can't even find lamb unless I go to an asian market.

>>17659053
I work around a lot of zoomies and I once had to explain to them that Chicken and Dumplings is not, in point of fact, either Chinese food or cultural appropriation. I later had to explain that not all dumplings, #notalldumplings, are thin wrappers filled with meat.

It was a weird fucking week, man, is what I'm saying.

>>17659057
It absolutely is.

>>17659886
>Johnny cakes
good af and a favorite when camping

Spinach Salad with Warm Bacon Dressing is something I haven’t seen on a menu in a while.

>>17667809
t.

damn, my local diner doesn't even serve salisbury steak
They do have some stuff that I think fits this thread though, like open face roast beef and turkey sandwiches smothered in gravy

>>17667857
Anon, he said Johhny Cakes, no wopples.

>>17668174
>open face roast beef and turkey sandwiches smothered in gravy
I haven't had a hot, open faced sandwich since I was a kid. What a fucking set of memories that unlocked. Thanks, anon.

>>17668217
Go on a straight date with a buddy and get one
I intend on doing that once I get the chance

I feel like American food these days is either:
Glorified bar food (burgers. tendies, nuggies, wraps) or some sort of international fusion
I guess old school American food also took foreign influences like French or German cooking style, but it still seems more American the way it was formed versus now where it's like "Asian zing salad" or whatever

OH NO! HE SAID THE NICER ONES! OP IS TRYING TO STIR UP SOME SHIT! OH NO! ANY IDIOT WHO SERIOUSLY RESPONDED TO HIM MUST BE FEELING LIKE A REAL DUMBASS NOW!

>>17668248
Wrong hour again, faggot. Go back to your KD larp thread.

>>17668257
haha go the retard!
/ck/ culture!

>>17668269
Are you having a stroke?

>>17659871
Liver tastes like stomach bile. Like a bad burp blown in your face by a fat asshole.

>>17668225
I think that comes down to the loss of old-school French cooking in general.
Even over in France they're doing a lot of 'fusion' cuisines or 'lightened' versions over old school dishes. The US took that a few steps further.

>>17669536
that's sad, but I understand why that happens

Clams Casino is good

>>17659698
don't let your meat loaf.

>>17662494
That film is filled with timeless jokes, Naked Gun and Top Secret also goes very hard

>>17673009
And yet, Wrongfully Accused blows goats. : (

>>17659092
maa boooyyy :D

>>17659886
>>17659053
>jiggaboo stew
>coon corn hash
>eyes wit lips
>horse mustard pie
>gran-a-tang
>field buck bisque
>mambo chops
Just a few gems from Dixie.

I love a well made pot roast

>>17660100
You’re still pissed he made a drink called an Orange Fool and was thinking it was a slight against daddy Trump, when it honestly wasn’t.

He’s never put anything political on his channel, so why would he risk alienating his audience, but I guess snowflakes like you are ultra sensitive.

Keep seething faggot.

>>17663156
Menudo is pretty kink.

Classic tomato bologna ground up casserole

>>17659053
Idk about specific dishes, but I've been working on compiling a list of southern ingredients that are forgotten because I was sick of hearing Southern food is mac and cheese and fried chicken. People don't even know there are regional differences because that notion is so ubiquitous now.

>>17659053
Doubt this is American, but growing up my mom used to make pork chops cooked in sour kraut. So good — fork tender, sour, savory and sweet. I never see this dish mentioned around here or irl

>>17675493
I literally posted about this the other day.

>>17675528
Whoops — must’ve missed it. Was it considered a struggle meal 60+ years ago? It’s very cheap and low effort

>>17675534
Idfk what it was considered 60+ years ago. I wasn't even conceived of as a concept until long, long after then.
I just consider it good eating.

>>17659942
Agreed

>>17675493
this looks like someone wanted to make kassler and sauerkraut but didn't actually have kassler

Bump

chicken marsalabros wwa?

>>17659352
>Filet (WORST CUT!!!!)
In the 70s we used rump.

>>17662494
your parents' generation felt the same way about you with classic media from their youth

>>17659053
Yes american's sure do like their dog turd on diarrhea sprinkled with grass clippings

>>17660415
based townsend dabbing on drumpfhtards

>>17675153
thank you for including Eastern NC BBQ, sometimes i worry that our vinegar based will one day go out of fashion. thats a good list too.

>>17659053
> America
> traditonal
lmao
just take some other country's traditional food and make it 25-99% worse and you have traditional American food

>>17662494
The jokes are 40 years old. I doubt millennials would get them without reading the wiki page open first.

>>17675493
This is good stuff. You can also thin slice apples and throw them in there.

>>17675153
based dixie enjoyer

>>17659092
>cigarette?
>yes, i know
unironically hilarious

>>17660415
>lives in rural indiana
>white family man
>obsessed with history
yeah i bet he gives a shit about black people

>>17660628
yeah, restaurants made their way from europe to america via hotels for the most part. it's also where our tipping situation got started. it's a pretty interesting history

>>17662886
Yet again, women ruined something cool

am I banned here too?

>>17665915
there's been recent backlash against it for being flavorless. tender yes, but flavorless

>>17680164
I don't think he's a racist but he's not really an SJW, Trumptards are too sensitive on here

>>17668225
Old school food was a lot heavier and didn't really rely on fresh ingredients to get the job done. People aren't into it

>>17675534
>cheapest meat
>cheapest vegetable
gee anon idk is this peasant food?

>>17680216
It's so weird. "I need to know this content creator's politics before I can decide if I can allow myself to like it or not." Reminds me of how everyone fusses over how Norm voted. Who cares

>>17680219
I'm pretty sure they had fresh ingredients by the 60s

>>17680278
you misunderstand, that was not the emphasis of the restaurant experience

I never hear anyone mention salmon loaf or cinnamon toast which are both comfort foods in my house

>>17675493
This is just sloppa, not a real recipe. Not that it's a bad thing, sloppa is the best.

>>17665908
I want to genocide the Chinese so bad guys, WWIII when?

>>17680345

Cinnamon toast was a staple for my family growing up

>>17659053
They don't have any, and as soon as you show them dishes that look slightly different that the shit they are used to eat, they will tell you you are pretentious, or that there is no point in this facy food, or other dumb stuff like that.

One of the morons in here actually called me snobish for sharing a fucking salad recepit. a SALAD. not caviar hu, a salad.

The food is bad, because the people do not want to eat any other shit than the shit they are used to eat.

Propose anything different. Muuhh you are snobish or something similar.

>>17670575
/thread

>>17680330
Is it the emphasis now?
Maybe for salad lovers but bold/fried flavors are a common theme of American frestaurants

>>17660100
la medicina

>>17680887
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouvelle_cuisine

>>17681212
oh okay I forgot we were talking about French in particular

>>17679796
I take it black. Like my men.

>>17663150
Americans are the literal definition of first world. Until america squared off against the USSR in the cold world there was no 'first world'. The first world had the original definition of "non-commy", the second world was the commys, and the third world were non-aligned countries.

As long as the first world has existed USA epitomized it.

>>17675493
Christ that looks good. Adding the try lost

>>17665935
Showing the anglo culinary roots, 95% of British food is boiled/fried/roasted

>>17667567
I would consider a patty melt a type of burger.

>>17668225
Neatly coincides with the death of anglo/WASP culture being dominant in the US. Prior to about 1970, well over ¾ of the US population was of at least 50% anglo descent, and it reflected in our cuisine. As waves of ‘non traditional’ (read: asian and south american) immigrants came in, they brought their food traditions with them. A combination of a desire for the exotic and a media smear campaign that specifically targeted anglo culture for denigration led to ‘traditional american fare’ being looked down on and driven into irrelevancy. There are more mexican restaurants than diners in this country now

>>17675493
German/polish staple

>>17682271
I love Mexican food but it would be really sad to me if diners died out.
There are still plenty in New York, but there were way more just a generation ago.

>>17660100
I'M FRUSTRATED

>>17682287
I don’t care if mexican food is around, I do care when major institutions engage in cultural terrorism by shaming you for preferring northern european food over mexican food. These days you get weird looks for saying you prefer mutton and mashed potato over tacos and guacamole. You get openly mocked if you don’t like jalapeño.
Apple pie is supposedly america’s national dish (originates in England), yet when was the last time you saw it on a restaurant’s menu?

>>17682415
Where can you even get mutton at a restaruant?
I've only heard of it being common these days in Kentucky BBQ

>>17682415
When Latinos claim that white people have bad food, remind them that they eat pizza, burgers, hot dogs, steaks, etc.

>>17659053
Key Lime Pie is pretty darn great. If you want something more from NYC then iirc NYC had a good reputation for Cheese Cakes.

>>17682422
Junior's cheesecake is really good, though expensive

what do you guys get from diners?
Is it worth venturing beyond the usual pancakes and eggs?

>>17682426
I've never had it, I'll have to try it if I ever get the chance. Sadly I live no where near NYC.

>>17682470
I think they might sell it in other states

>>17682415
>yet when was the last time you saw it on a restaurant’s menu?

yesterday

name the last 3 "american" restaurants you've patronized

>>17682415

Lol bro I hate Mexicans more than anyone but I can’t just pretend their food isn’t god tier.

They don’t have god tier food because they are smart or whatever it’s a lot of factors at play. It is funny though, food is the ONLY benefit of multiculturalism. We have sold our souls in exchange for delicious burritos.

>>17664440
Where do you live where Ketchup isn't loaded with an ungodly amount of sugar?

>>17682473
Oh yeah, you're right. Looks like I've got a treat for later. Thanks, anon.

>>17682518
You can buy ketchup without added sugar, online or in person. You can also just make ketchup from scratch.

>>17682520
enjoy! It's the best cheesecake I've had

>>17682488
Count how many ‘american’ restaurants you see compared to chinese, mexican, and italian.

>>17682495
Thing is you don’t really need mexicans around to make mexican food. I have never met a Dane in person, nor have I ever been in the same room as one. This hasn’t stopped me from making Danish food. The internet exists, and cookbooks existed before then. I’ve only been to nawlins once, but I cook cajun all the time.

>>17682586
>people drop bland sloppa and shit gamey meat at the first sight of actual food
>IT MUST BE A JEWISH CONSPIRACY TO GENOCIDE WHITE PEOPLE
If nothing, you folks are always entertaining.

>>17662494
Why would you post that image if you're a fan of (((Airplane)))? You are clearly a non-white or race traitor.

>>17682586
>people go to restaurants serving food they wouldn't normally make at home
holy shit.....

>>17682691
75% of the people dining in the Indian restaurants in my area are Indian. 75% of the people dining in the Chinese restaurants in my area are some sort of Asian I presume they're Chinese. Only 50% of the people in the burger places are white.

>>17682605
>make no mention of jews
>random anon gets suspiciously defensive about jews
Hmm..

>>17682419
Turkish restos in my area have this awfully bland soup of mutton, onion and potatoes. It's odd because everything else Turkish is spiced adequately, even if not to my tastes, but this soup tastes like it was made by a 340 year old Scottish fishwife. It's literally just a joint of mutton boiled with cut up onion and potato. That's fucking it.
But yeah: those're the only restaurants near me that serve mutton. As for buying it raw, an abatoir/slaughterhouse market about 6 miles from me has it.

>>17682415
I prefer mutton and mashed potato over tacos and guacamole. Tacos and guac are nice, but they don't fill the same need for me as mutton and mash. I do, however, enjoy japaleenies.

>>17682287
Literally all of the independent diners in my area, which were all different not only in menu but also character and clientele, are now owned by the same filthy, dirty, smelly disgusting Greek family who've gutted their menus completely and made them carbon copies of one another. I like it the way it was before. Fuck the Greeks.

I’ll never not be mad at the inaccessibility of mutton in the US. What was once a staple of roasts and prime carnivorous eating is now largely not even sold.

I don't remember the last time I've eaten sloppy joes. I don't think I've ever been to a restaurant that had it on the menu. Are they more common in different parts of the country?

>>17683057
They were a staple when I was growing up in the midwest but I don't think I ever saw them on the menu at a restaurant.

>>17683057
>>17683057
If you stood anywhere in Iowa swinging a cat by the tail, it'd yowl about 47 times, once for each time it hit some lunch counter joint that sells sloppy joes or loosemeat sandwiches (basically a sloppy joe without the sauce because sauce has too much taste for the average Iowan; I'm talking about people who think garlic is too strong and foreign for their delicate fucking palates).

>>17682991
How old are you that you remember the pre Greek days?
I do agree that they have carbon copy menus somehow

>>17683895
The Greeks only started to invade my immediate area's diners 10 years ago, bruh. Three within walking distance of my house are now all owned by the same family, with one son or grandson running each of the three. There's a fourth diner nearby, but that one's owned by Copts.
Anyway, that same Greek family already had almost all of the diners on the outskirts of town and in the deeper burbs, but around 2010, they started to snatch up diners within the city proper. Outside of the Egyptian-owned one and a lunch counter at my corner (not sure if that really counts as a diner), if I wanna go to a diner not owned by these fat, smelly fucks, I have to go to the Ashkie diner a 30 minute drive away. The family own all the diners down town, even, and they all blow now. I say again: fuck the Greeks.

What I wanna know is how in the shit this one family managed to get together the literal dozens of millions of dollars necessary to buy all of these diners with a three year timespan. Yeah, they owned a ten or so diners outside of the city, but surely those ten locations didn't provide enough collateral for them to get a long for the $20+ million they spent buying the three diners in my area and the other six downtown.
Like anything dealing with Greeks and money, something fucking shady's goin' on.

>>17660100
It's not a political channel, faggots on this board and in the YouTube comments think it is because muh orange fool, which wasn't even about Trump. Politicsfags are the worst.

>>17660263
Olives in meatloaf do not belong. Take your briny shitty green pieces of trash and eat them with pimento or whatever the fuck. Meatloaf is for good tasting ingredients.

>>17659787
t. tastelet

>>17659053
Turkey a la king, chicken a la king, beef stroganoff, beef bourguignon, salisbury steak (the real shit, not the tv dinner shit), meatloafs, pork chops (and apple sauce after that one episode of the Brady Bunch popularized it), chopped liver, casseroles of all sort (especially tuna noodle casserole and green bean casserole), skirt steak, glazed ham, chicken pot pies, chicken fried steak with gravy, and chicken and dumplings were all massively popular dishes that were staples of the American cuisine that have sense become uncommon to rare.

>>17684037
Interdasting, here in the NYC area they've been owned by Greeks for a while

>>17684244
I'm 27 and pork chops and apple sauce was a staple in my house growing up

>>17667803
i feel like we are at the point now where most people under age 35 don't even know that there was an american cuisine at one point besides thanksgiving dinner items/hamburgers etc.

>>17684301
Destructive memes are destructive.

>>17684301
Sadly yes
I wish more restautant owners would try to revive American food other than burgers and tendies

>>17684244
Based American cuisine

>>17662552
Why is the Saddle of Spring Lamb so fucking expensive? It must have been the whole cut for like 4 people, right?

>>17684244
Skirt steak is unfortunately really popular again.

>>17684412
Seems that way.
Had to have been a party meal.

>>17659331
so it's just rissoles with gravy

>>17665502
Wow our currency is just fucked isn't it

>>17684622
Because of Mexicans?

>>17684358
There was some Euro guy who used to post to /ck/ where he cooked old school Amerifoods from scratch, like tuna noodle casserole, chicken divan and sloppy joes. Good threads.

>>17667561
A most adequate explanation anon. I fear they're missing out on the levels of comfort experienced in such dishes.

>>17685221
>tuna noodle casserole
Interesting, I thought that was specifically a Jewish thing

>>17660100
based, I also unsubscribed as soon as they started sucking slave myth dick WE WUZ INVENTING ALL FOOD AND SHEEEEEEIT

>>17685440
Tuna Helper exists, so no: it's not specifically a Jewish thing.

>>17685474
Tuna helper is pretty jewish compared to making tuna noodle casserole yourself

>>17685449
Lol you're such a sensitive little baby, all he did was have a black guy on who shared a couple of barbecue recipes

>>17685692
>WE WUZ INVENTANG ERRY TYPE UH FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD N' SHEIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>17685712
Touch grass

>>17685722
>I INVEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNTANG'D DIS BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICYCLE I TOOK IT OUT OF MY UDDA KIDZ YAAAAAARRRD N SHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>>17685540
Oh yeah? How so?

Perfection salad

>>17685759
It's just as hard, tastes much worse and costs more

>>17685795
So in other words you're paying a middle man to make something worse for you. Yeah that's pretty jewish.

>>17683057
I've eaten a lot of sloppy joes but I can't imagine ordering one at a restaurant for some reason
It would be like ordering a bowl of cereal or crackers and cheese.

>>17685873
Yeah it's more like something casual my mom would whip up

>>17685795
>paying more
Doesn't sound very Jewish to me, Hebro.

>>17683057
last time i had a sloppy joe, we whipped some up out of some prime burger patties we had on the line that had very unfortunately and accidentally become deformed and broken. ketchup, mustard and brown sugar makes the sauce, then we just broke up the patties, browned them in a saute pan and added the sauce. shit was kino. we went straight WT white bread instead of the house-made hambie buns, too. so fuckin good my guy.

>>17686017
When you deal with jews you always pay more. jews themselves would never eat goy food like hamburger helper, it's poisonous and used to control the population.

>>17686106
My best friend is a white trash Ashkenazi Jew from central PA. All his mom knows how to "cook" is tuna helper.
I'm not even joking.

I never see hot turkey or chicken sandwiches around anymore.
Although I'm not sure if they're more of a leaf thing or a yank.

>>17659767
>I haven't eaten a meal in over 2 years
Do you just graze all day?

>>17659340
>Chitlins
shoo shoo spook

>>17659871
I always wanted to eat it as a child because of that one episode of Doug.

>>17660487
>things that were popular/traditional but suffered from sudden ingredient-unavailability due to laws or otherwise.
Too bad partial birth veal never caught on

>>17667857
funny sirs

>>17659787
Always had shredded carrots in our meatloaf growing up, helped cut through some of the fat