/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17653827
>soybean oil

Talenti and Jeni's are the only ice cream brands worth fucking with, they don't put soy and vegetable oil in their ice cream like the other mainstream brands

>>17653832
???
Jeni's peanut butter with chocolate ingredients: Nonfat Milk, Cream, Cane Sugar, Peanut Butter (Roasted Peanuts, Sugar, Peanut Oil, Salt), Chocolate Flakes (Sugar, Unsweetened Chocolate, Cocoa Butter, Dextrose, Soy Lecithin, Vanilla Extract), Tapioca Syrup, Honey, Sea Salt.

>>17653832
>talenti
are you a woman?

>>17653832
Talenti is my jam. I love their Southern Butter Pecan as well as their raspberry.

>>17653827
Haagen-Dazs is the best store bought ice cream and it's not even close. Fuck Greater's, Ben and Jerry's and Blue Bell

>>17653901
ARE YOU ON YOUR PERIOD

>>17653827
Turkey Hill Simply Natural
>>17653832
>soybean oil
where?

>>17653888
>>17653920
>defining your masculinity with food
You should go to reddit and do an AMA about how you ended up this fucking insecure, lmao.

>>17653827
>real vanilla
now this is rare

>>17653866
Lecithin is an emulsifier. I prefer sunflower over soy. I take some as a supplement (powder in my yogurt) to help me bust big nuts. Fairly tasteless too

>DoorDash special delivery

>>17653947
lol you taste test your loads. tomlette detected

>>17653936
In the ingredients list. Just because you cherry-picked one product without additives doesn't mean that most of their shit doesn't.

>>17653866
Jeni's uses real grassfed dairy for all of their ice cream. The ingredients in that specific flavor, the peanut oil is only there because of the peanut butter, and the soy lecithin is only there because it is an ingredient within the chocolate flakes that the they use in in that flavor.

And for what it's worth Soy Lectithin isn't really that bad. It's not ideal, but it's not as bad as Soybean Oil which you will find in Haagen daasz or Ben and Jerry's. The vegetable oils are not good for you, and since soybean oil is in fucking everything from cheese dips to frosting, it can be hard to avoid. But soy itself in small quantities can be okay. I enjoy a good miso soup here and there and use soy sauce with my rice.

I just want to avoid vegetable oils. And from what I've found, Talenti's doesn't use any vegetable oils either. I work in a food distribution store so I check ingredients on things frequently. 90% of processed shit has vegetable oil (canola, sunflower oil, safflower oil, soybean oil, etc). That shit is not good for you, animal fats are better, and olive oil and avocado oil and coconut oil are all far better for your body than vegetable oils. Again, in small quantities the vegetable oils aren't the end of the world, the problem is that they are in literally everything. It's extremely hard to find potato chips that don't have some kind of vegetable oil in them. Even slim jims and ramen noodle cups usually have seed oils of some kind. It sucks

>>17653888
not checked, Talenti is fucking based. Their Gelato is superior to most store bought ice creams, although I will say lately I have discovered Jeni's and think it is superior. Of course, Jeni's is expensive as fuck. We sell it for $10 a pint, which is cheaper than the Jeni's website which is $12 a pint. Fucking insane price for ice cream, but if you limit yourself to a pint or less per month, it's totally worth it.

>>17653907
>>17653936
>where?

okay you're right. I just went and checked and it looks like Haagen Daasz actually does use skim milk and egg yolks in their ice cream, and they don't use soybean or other vegetable oil unless it's in a chocolate chip or other ingredient.

I just assumed they used it desu. We sell shittons of Ben & Jerry's and they have soybean oil in every flavor, it's just a part of their ice cream. I assumed Haagen Daasz did too since we store it right next to ben and jerry's. Anyway, just double check the ingredients when you're buying ice cream, a lot of the cheaper brands will use soybean oil in the ice cream. So you don't know what you're getting it, you could have upwards of 10 or 20% of the ice cream be pure vegetable oil

>>17653827
>Ingredients: (vanilla ice cream)heavy cream, whole milk, sugar, pasture raised duck egg yolk from my whore duck, vanilla, salt. (black raspberry swirl syrup) wild black raspberries, sugar, (watermelon wine) organic watermelon, wild black raspberries, wine yeast, lemon juice, raw organic honey, sugar.

>>17654228
why do people on this board avoid vegetable and seed oils? board newfag here, really confused, what's wrong with canola oil and stuff? I use it all the time and I am fine? serious question.

>>17654285
why do people on this board do anything? Answer: they are some form of retarded.

>>17654285
>what's wrong with canola oil and stuff?

there's significant evidence to suggest that it's really fucking bad for your body. Human body can't really break down a lot of these vegetable oils properly. They don't get digested and they contribute to free radicals which are one of the main biological processes which cause cancer. Also if you look at obesity rates...they pretty much go up in a straight line along with consumption of seed oils. Even when sugar consumption declined heavily in the 90s...obesity kept going up and so did seed oil consumption. 1992 I believe is when McDonald's switched from cooking their fries in Beef tallow to using vegetable oil (with beef flavoring, which they continued to use until vegetarians complained in early 2000s).

Here's an article which gives a pretty solid overview

https://foxhillkitchens.com/are-seed-oils-bad-for-you/#:~:text=Seed%20oils%20are%20proven%20to,and%20other%20life%2Ddegrading%20conditions.

Something you might not know, Vegetable oil was originally invented in the late 1800s for use in Diesel engines. It was only later on that food scientists realized they could modify it for human consumption. Once that happened, large food corporations realized they could substantially cut costs by using industrial seed oils instead of traditional fats like beef tallow or olive oil.

Their popularization is directly link to Proctor and Gamble and other companies heavily lobbying and funding the American Heart Association in the 50s, and heavy advertising in the 1910s/20s before then. Of course, even though it had been around since early 20th century, they didn't really explode in popularity til post WWII years.

>>17654285
Autism

>>17654285
>>17654312
Basically the entire idea that red meat and fat causes heart disease and other illnesses is basically a lie. That idea was pushed because people in the 50s were getting more heart attacks because they were literally smoking massive amounts of Tobacco (and tobacco isn't even that bad for you, but when you're smoking upwards of a pack per day it really is not good). President Eisenhower had a heart attack in 1955 or 56 and people started freaking out about health and the AHA swooped in and blamed it all on red meat and animal fats. Never mind the fact that Eisenhower was smoking 4 packs of cigarettes per day as were many people in western countries.

And so as a result of this campaign, more companies started using vegetable oil in place of animal fats so that they could market their mass produced products as "low fat" which was believed to be healthier.

Canola oil literally just means Canadian Oil and was invented in WWII. It comes from canola seeds and the oil was traditionally toxic, only used in heavy machinery for lubrication, but scientists found if they tweaked it a bit, that it could be safe for human consumption. Boom now you have a super cheap oil you can sell to people by telling them it's healthy.

Again, vegetable oil didn't exist til the 1890s, canola oil didn't exist til the 1950s. All of these seed oils are quite new for human diets, and people were able to exist and cook tasty food for all of human history without them

>>17654312
>>17654326
oh wow, I didn't know that. A for effort anon!

>>17653827
Because Breyers is better and cheaper

>>17654312
>They don't get digested
Then that would mean no calories.

>>17654344
Define ‘partnering with american farmers’

>>17654363
>then that would mean no calories

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-vegetable-and-seed-oils-bad#oxidation

yeah poor choice of words on my part. They do get digested to a degree, but a lot of them sort of get trapped in your cells, causing inflammation and fatness. Big reason why you see hyper morbid obese in the USA. They aren't just eating multiple steaks every day, they're gorging themselves on literal pounds of potato chips

>>17653866
>peanut butter has peanut oil in it
stop the presses

I’m actually shocked that a thread about ice cream has brought the most autistic fucking people out of the woodwork.
We got a dude who goes on a screeching rant about how there is soy even though OP posted ingredients without soy, and then the dude eventually comes back with an oh damn it doesn’t have soy.
We have the people so insecure with themselves they use food to feel manly.
And we got sneed oil schizos.

>>17653827
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's not turkey hill

>>17654407
Soy really scares polcels,
it's really funny

>>17653939
kek

>>17654416
Hey man no reason to get heated. You can have my share of soy AND seed oils. Just guzzle lt all down big guy

>>17654416
Rent free

>Love 'Dazs
>Hate Nestle

The toughest choices require the greatest wills.

>>17654344
LOL. Look up how many calories a pint of Breyers has vs. Haagen Dazs.
Then, look up how much Breyers WEIGHS (not voume, they are both the same VOLUME per pint)

They have the same ingredients and yet Breyers weighs half of what Haagen Dazs does and has half the calories too.... and it's also like half the price... (they churned air into it you dipshit)

>>17653827
>No salt
Gross.

>>17653827
op has shit taste in icecream, kys faggot

>>17653827
tillamook is my jam

>>17653832
Don’t know about the other one. But talenti is literally not ice cream

I like it the most from the name brands, but the one I like the most(strawberries and cream) stopped being sold here.

One underrated ice cream I really like is pic related from Lidl, but I haven't seen them the last few times they ran their spanish stuff. Maybe it will be back for the summer.

>>17654285
It's a /pol/ meme. Seriously.

>>17654872
>pic related
>forgot pic

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>>17654609
I had the haagen salted caramel and it was tasty

>>17653827
Small selection of flavors where I live, but fuck it I'm buying some 'dazs this evening.

>>17655261
Which flavor u like

>>17655271
Among the ones we have where I live? I like a lot of them. My favorite is Vanilla with brownies and caramel. Their cheesecake, pralines, cookies and cream, pure vanilla are all great.
The stuff with brownies has some more preservatives added from the brownies, but nothing too unreasonable.

>>17655288
That sounds tasty anon. I want to eat some from your mouth.

>>17655300
Only if you're a girl who was born with a vagina

>>17653827
It's a Jewish brand that tries to sound Danish. It's great ice cream but the Juden are merely trying to trick us once again.

I buy from a local dairy farm that produces ice cream.

>>17655480
How do you know it's not a Jewish local dairy farm? Did you check, they could be hiding the Jews in the attic.

>>17653827
>still ingesting dairy
I don't want exogenous estrogen.

>>17654599
Don't care. Breyers vanilla tastes better

>>17653888
You don't deserve those trips, fag.

>>17654285
It's just a page out of the gen x ketolard bible of how to blame obesity on anything except portions. seed oils magically make you gain weight.

for me it's ben and jerrys

we do thangs a lil diffrant out hurr

>>17653832
you stupid wrong asshole making shit up. there is no vegetable oil in it.

>>17656059
How can a massproduced globalist product be so based?

>>17656062
the story of Haagen Dazs is they started out with the goal in mind to be the most premium and pure ice cream product on the market, since all other ice creams at the store have tons of additives, non-dairy substitutes, stabilizers, and alternative sweeteners and shit. Even after being bought by huge international food corporations like Nestle, Haagen Dazs continues to keep being based and making literally the best ice cream sold in stores. So props to the big corporations that own Haagen Dazs for allowing Haagen Dazs to keep their integrity.

>>17653827
>milk after cream

in other words watered down

>>17655639
stfu fucking jews. everyone knows isreal sucks putin's big fat cock.

>>17654344
>"better"
>"cheaper"

pick one. and it's cheaper because it uses inferior ingredients, has a shitton of stablizers and is pumped full of air (which means you are getting less actual product per unit volume)

>>17656132
I hope they keep being aware of the fact that no additives is a huge selling point.

>>17655302
>who was born with a vagina
touche are you born with a vagina?

>>17656148
I like to support jews and the israel state.

>>17656841
u monster i will throw u down the well of solitude

ice cream makes u fat

>>17656826
I am a big middle-aged dude with a penis. I was born with my penis, it is a middle-aged penis.

>>17653827
>they will never bring back the greatest ice cream ever conceived
just fucking end me