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Bought a bottle of Knob Creek 12 year, hopefully it’s still as good as the reviews said it was when it came out a few years ago.

Bought a bottle of Knob Creek 12 year, hopefully it’s still as good as the reviews said it was when it came out a few years ago.

>>17610512
pisses me off that
Evan Williams 12 year is distiller exclusive
Also I've never seen Heaven Hill BIB in my state
Just picked up Larceny A122, first barrel proof larceny I've seen and it was at a good price

>>17610589
>Evan Williams 12 year is distiller exclusive
It’s overpriced anyway, they had some at my local liquor store for like $200-250 can’t remember exactly.

>>17610512
recent purchase was in last thread, should be going Monday to get a 11 yr old Ardmore from Signatory and a new bottle of 6 Isles. I'm selling some of a record collection and should be getting these pretty soon as well. my shop just got in the new US exclusive Ardnamurchan release, but I think I might save that for another time if it's still around.

bump

>Check whisky selection while traveling in Europe
>almost never anything Canadian

We make whisky too.

>>17611925
>We make whisky too.
Wish I could find some cask strength lot 40 rye.

>>17610512
Just bought this marked down from $52 to $34. Never tried it, has anyone here had this before?
I figured for $34 I couldn't go wrong.

>>17610516
I'm going to have a dram of a whiskey that isn't in production anymore over some ice just to spite you

>got a bottle of pic related for christmas
>not a whiskey guy at all
>probably going to drink it with 7up

It's cool though that they found his ship recently

>>17612085
I’ve been think of trying that, but then when I found out they released 3 versions that actually tasted just the the real one I got pretty disappointed, they were originally sold for pretty cheap but now go for thousands.
The current one is supposed to taste good but nothing like the original.

Gentlemen, I love bourbon.
However, as a recovering alcoholic, I can no longer enjoy this tasty beverage.
Do you have any recommendations for alternatives?

>>17612265
Barrel aged maple syrup. Seriously.

>>17612265
bogwater or filter a cup of water through an ashtray

>>17612265
Tea, kombucha

>>17612285
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
>>17612286
I'm not certain how that would yield a taste profile similar to bourbon?
>>17612358
Any teas similar to bourbon you can recommend, or should I take that to tea general?

>>17612285
This shit is great.
Singlehandedly made maple syrup my new favorite sweetener.

>>17612379
>Any teas similar to bourbon you can recommend, or should I take that to tea general?
Good earth sweet and spicy original.
It’s not bourbon but it has a lot of the same flavor notes. You just gotta get into tea too.

bought this one after trying it at a restaurant, was very nice. pretty strong, long and lingering peat.

>>17611925
yeah then the government blends it with up to 20% vodka and still call it Whiskey

One of my family friends brought this to Christmas and it was the smoothest Whisky I've ever had. You guys should try it. Anybody have better recommendations?

>>17612981
>it was the smoothest Whisky I've ever had
t.NPC

>>17612981
Tullamore Dew is another Irish whiskey that I consider "smoother," which is to say the alcohol burn disappears and it is very gentle on the a palate.

FUCK WHISKEY
TEQUILA CREW
WHEEEEEEEEWWW!!!

I've got half a bottle of elijiah Craig bourbon. What do I do with it? I'm tired of drinking it neat and tired of whisky sours

>>17613282
Go get some oranges and a cheap bottle of sparkling, dry white wine and make French 95s with the lemon juice and simple syrup you're using for whiskey sours.
Orange and bourbon is a wonderful combo

>>17612524
Do they even have bogs and/or peat in Japan?

>>17612981
I tried it a couple months ago, it’s not bad.
Try redbreast 12.

>>17611950
I think its fine for the price. Personally I prefer sherry cask finish at 15+ years so I guess I cant give it great reviews, but thats only down to personal taste. Id happily drink it, or serve it to guests though.

>>17610550
Drinking it now and it has a lot more flavor than the 9 year, it’s turned up to 11, just straight caramel toffee in my mouth and it is super chewy and it has a long finish.
The 9 year has the same flavors but the intensity is lower drinking it back to back, both really great, there are some more woody notes on the 12 year and it has a longer finish.

>>17615207
It’s also very buttery.

got this at my favorite liquor store. What drew me to it was that it was a single barrel offering specifically selected by the team at this cellar so that sold it to me.

tastes great! high proof but not overpowering, a nice rye kick but not as harsh as others ones I've had.

can't comment about the other barrels, but mine is damn good

After trying a few ~$60 whiskeys and going back to cheaper whiskeys, I'm surprised at the utter lack of flavor. I ordered some Jameson at a bar and honestly thought it was watered down at first. I guess I've spoiled myself now? Anyway, Redbreast 12 is fucking delicious. Would love to know of some cheaper whisk(e)y with actual flavor like this.

>>17615272
Irish? powers might be your best bet. Silkie isn't too pricey and had good flavor as well as a peated variation.

>>17615272
>cheap whiskey with actual flavor
Bourbons. Wild Turkey 101 as a starting point.

>>17614251
Thanks anon, I am gonna crack it open this coming weekend and have taste.

>>17615323
Not him but I have a question. I bought a bottle of Wild Turkey, not the 101. I am new to trying to appreciate whiskey and am still trying to get past the ethanol burn.
Did I make a mistake? Everyone talks about the 101, but nobody talks about the regular strength Wild Turkey. I just didn't want to be completely overwhelmed by burn when sipping it neat so I could actually practice tasting.

>>17615339
>Did I make a mistake?
Yes.
>am still trying to get past the ethanol burn.
Just take smaller sips. You should be able to tolerate even 120 proof if you're taking small enough of sips.
Simple as. Almost everyone who complains that a whiskey burns too much is taking too big of sips.

>>17615323
I remember trying buffalo trace a while back and not caring for it too much, but maybe other bourbons are better? I used to be a rye drinker.

>>17615347
I have tried this, very minuscule sips still have more burn than flavor. I think I just have to get used to it, that's what a lot of people say.

>>17615349
Buffalo Trace is a low rye bourbon. You'll probably prefer bourbons with a higher percentage of rye in the mash bill. See: https://modernthirst.com/home/bourbon-whiskey-mash-bills/

>>17615349
>>17615390
To elaborate a little, low-rye bourbons, and especially wheated bourbons like Maker's Mark, are the Glenlivets/Glenfiddiches/Glenmorangies of bourbons. Relatively light on flavor. Definitely go for something more rye-heavy if you're the type who doesn't like whiskies that are light on flavor.
Old Grand-Dad 114 is the king here for price/performance; an absolute flavor bomb.

>>17615355
I never had to get used to it. I liked neat whiskey from day one.
Then again I'm not a fucking pussy.

>>17615355
>I think I just have to get used to it, that's what a lot of people say.
You do, I was thinking about when I first started drinking whiskey and it sometimes felt like my younger was on fire, I don’t get that all and haven’t for many years.

>>17615426
Like my tongue was on fire*

>>17615355
Just water it down a bit. I know I've tried some cask-strength that I definitely prefer with a bit of water.

>>17615401
>Old Grand-Dad 114
A bottle costs $27 here, definitely going to give this a try at that price. Thanks, anon!

>>17615406
I'm not self conscious about having to get used to it, it's just a thing some people need to do. Doesn't make them a pussy, they'll get there eventually.
>>17615426
Thank you for the encouragement anon, I look forward to being able to properly enjoy whiskey
>>17615434
I have tried this, too, and it does help a bit! Seems stupid to do it with 40-43% spirits, though.

for me it's Canadian Club

>>17615479
Why? Because of the price?

>>17615438
Once you go Big White Cork you never go back.

>>17615339
its not only the size of the sip, its actually more so the introduction of oxygen after you swallow and open your mouth. get comfortable chewing, swallowing and breathing with your mouth closed for at least 30 seconds after you sip. you can even take a bigger sip and rest your head forward, chin down and swallow small bits over a short period of time say a min or two. concentrating on something else while the alcohol takes effect helps distract from that initial bite.

>>17615207
How the fuck is a liquid chewy you pretentious fuck?

>>17615640
Wilderness trail also has a big white cork, their rye is the best I’ve ever had.

>>17615694
I mean viscous and thick.

>>17615725
i got something viscous and thick right here for you my boy

>>17615479
Better than Crown Royal for sure.

>>17615272
Redbreast is great, also been looking for something similar and cheaper to no avail

bump

>>17615339
Man the Fuck up and get the highest proof bourbon you can afford. OGD114 is only $26USD for a 750ml bottle near me. That should be the minimum proof you try.

>>17619811

>drink alot
>no headache or hangover type feelin
>but throat becomes sore for a day or two
how do i get around this

stop drink

>>17620104
maybe milk or cream

>>17619818
Three of my favorites right here. Based anon.

>>17611950
I picked it up for $80AUD a couple of years back. It was a real winner. And it's been $110 ever since. $34 USD is a steal.

>>17615272
Odd critique, Jameson is certainly more distinctive than Red Breast and I'd have to go out of my way to come up with anything as mild.

>>17620873
I get what he's saying though, one time I had a few suntory Toki's which are already pretty mild. Then I switched to jameson and it almost felt like water, could chug a bottle. However I don't mind that much since I primarily use it as mixer anyways

>>17620879
...I really don't.

>>17619811
I'm not complaining about the burn because I am a faggot who can't handle it, I am complaining because I want to taste something OTHER than the burn so I can truly appreciate whiskey.
I was actually thinking of getting Old Grand Dad 114 to unbitch my sense of taste faster, do you think it will work

How do I into whiskey?
I kind of want to like it because the bottles make it look like the most delicious thing ever.
But anytime I tried it was like drinking an ashtray that was left in the rain combined with shitty alcohol

>>17621366
Just force yourself, get a whisky that's on the easier side to drink but not too easy.
What I did was get the regular Maker's mark and mix it withg ginger ale. Just to the point you can barely drink it. every new glass you pour try a few sips neat. Try a glass slightly diluted with water now and then. Do this for a few weeks or a bottle of 2/3 and you will get there.

thoughts on Copper Dog?

>>17621690
>Copper Dog
But I hardly know her dog

>>17613051
"Smooth" is a real adjective, you double-nigger, the fact that pajeets and barhoppers use it on any beverage with decent quality control doesn't make it stop existing as a descriptor

>>17623461
shut the fuck up trannyflake, i'm gonna shit in your mom's skull

>>17623748
AI-generated post

>>17610685
I'm holding the 6 Iles and Dailuaine for a trip before too long so I just got the Ben Nevis and Ardmore today instead. Adelphi is a 700ml again... although very nice for only 5 years old and nearly 60% abv.(drinks better than my Knob Creek single barrel that's nearly 3 times its age)the sherry is quite full in the experience and as this is my first Ben Nevis, I'm not entirely sure what the distillery character is, but there is a lot great umami flavors like a restaurant grade teriyaki. it would've been nice if it were $20 cheaper, but for a once in a lifetime purchase, absolutely worth it. poured a little Glenallachie 10 Batch 6 next to it because they both have lots of Olorosso influence as well as noticeable balsamic thing. in comparison the Glenallachie is very fruity and the Nevis being more tea like with its complexity, dry and herbal.

Ardmore is very nice as well albeit in a more simple way, pure bourbon sweetness and slight salty finish and the perfect amount peat smoke(burning leaves). poured a little Teachers next to it and all I got was grain in comparison with very minute sour apple and milk chocolate notes.

>>17623750
crawl up my colon and die there, compadre

I'm a mega pleb when it comes to whiskey but I just grabbed this for $20. it's actually pretty good, way better than jack daniels straight rye

>>17624130

>>17621353
FYI: The burn is caused by the alcohol, I believe. But it might be the corn. To legally be called bourbon, it has to have at least 51% corn grain in its mash bill. So, you might be having an adverse reaction to the taste of the corn-based alcohol.

So, try some other types of whiskey or alcohol. Scotches and Irish whiskies are usually very different from American bourbons. I recommend trying Redbreast 12, an Irish whiskey, or try any of the peated Scotches. I guarantee that Ardbeg Wee Beastie will not taste anything like any bourbon you will ever try.

>>17624702
>you might be having an adverse reaction to the taste of the corn-based alcohol
lol he's not he's just a gigantic pussy

>>17621366
The word "into" is not a verb, zoomer.

So my advice is to find a barrel of bourbon and get into it until you drown.

>>17624723
>still conflating tasting only burn with not being able to tolerate burn like a pussy.
I don't know how to be any clearer than I have been. I can drink whiskey neat just fine, I want to fucking taste it more.
>>17624702
I do have a bottle of Johnnie Walker Black Label, a bottle of Glenmorangie 10 year, Tullamore D.E.W, and Jameson. They're less harsh than bourbon to me, but still only the most basic of flavors are able to come through since the ethanol burn covers the rest up for me.

>>17624767
>Johnnie Walker Black Label, a bottle of Glenmorangie 10 year, Tullamore D.E.W, and Jameson
These are all very lightly-flavored normie whiskies.
81 proof Wild Turkey is on the lightly-flavored side for bourbon.
Maybe you just need to buy a whiskey that doesn't suck.

>>17624827
He was asking about scotches and irish whiskey. I also have Sazerac Rye, Rittenhouse Rye, Old Forrester 100, Bulleit Bourbon barrel strength, and Makers Mark. I actually get more flavor, even if it is very basic, out of the milder ones I listed because their ethanol is easer to cut through.

I enjoy this one the most by far

>>17624730
kys yourself yourself newfag

damn you niggers. bulleit bourbon > rye. you tricked me.

>>17610516
stop posting this embarrassing picture

>>17624965
As someone who enjoyed Black Bush when I tried it, stay away from the 10 year.

For me, its Suntory.

>>17625448
I've he had the 10 but not the black bush. what's the big difference? 10 is pretty good for the similar price imo.

>>17624702
>to legally be called bourbon, it has to have at least 51% corn
Not if it was exported.

>>17610550
Nice

>>17623863
I suspect Ardmore might be trash, and some independents occasionally fluke it into becoming something decent.
The Ben Nevis 10 OB is quite good. Rich and fruity. It's way to expensive though; I can get Dalmore and Macallan cheaper (it's better, but that's not the point). Nevis Dew, their blend, is quite good too but can be had really cheap.

>>17610512
I made some whiskey marinated steak, tasted like shit, alcohol is gross and doesn't evaporate enough when cooking.

>>17625484
I just feel like it's really flat and lackluster. Would possibly think the same thing now about the Black Bush because I haven't tried it in ages, and I'm more used to less diluted whisky.

The Black Bush has that peat and sherry that the 10 doesn't have though, which might make up for the mediocre distillate.

>>17623863
>>17625543
I just had some Ben Nevis IBs the other day including a Maltman 22 yo ex-bourbon hogshead. Was really complex, great whisky. So much going on.

Apparently the distillery character is stone fruit, honey, salinity and chalky mineral.

>>17624730
newfag moment

>>17625546
It does, it just takes longer than what is needed to cook a steak. DUMBASS

>>17624959
Morons in this thread will screech about it, but add very small amounts of water until the alcohol is tolerable. You'll get used to it eventually.

Hey /wg/ it's my birthday soon which means I'll be getting some nice whisky. I really like Laphroaig, what are some similar brands I can point my friends and family towards?

>>17625633
Laphroaig Cask Strength, or the newest cairdeas if you want something different.

>>17625633
Hard to go wrong with Ardbeg, probably the most similar thing.

>>17625649
man... between the 10 yr old Sherry Oak and the Cairdeas PX they need to put out minis because even though I love Laphroaig and sherry, I'm not convinced on official bottlings of Laphroaig and heavy sherry usage enough to drop basically $100 to try them.

>>17626721
I would choose their Cairdeas.

>>17627008
because of the younger(probably) distillate or higher abv?

>>17627072
Just because they are more unique, they put a lot of effort into them and usually get great reviews that you can look up.

>>17624767
>I don't know how to be any clearer than I have been. I can drink whiskey neat just fine, I want to fucking taste it more.

Everyone's tastes are different. You'll just have to try a bunch of different liquor types/brands/distillers and see which ones you like the best.

What currently is your most expensive bottle in your collection? No dick waiving, just curious. Got this as a birthday gift.

>most recent purchase

Handle of Old Crow, shit is so cheap it feels like I stole the shit. Works great as a mixer & its decent for shots. I usually dont drink cheap liquor but this is one of my only exceptions, and it was good enough for pres Grant & Hunter Thompson. Drinking brandy next, either some American apple brandy or a really nice xo cognac I haven't decided yet.

>>17627524
sadly i dont collect

>>17627524
50/60 euro is my limit for a bottle

>>17626721
I've tried the px, it wasn't worth it. The sherry could not compete with the peat.

>>17627524
Boutique-y Benrinnes 10.
I thought it was pretty good value, but nope, 500ml bottle.

>>17627524
this was $170ish after tax. the particular bottling has a good score and it was the only time I had ever seen it. it was the last one on the shelf and and at the height of the holiday shopping season I amazed it wasnt guarded by a clerk. it was about $60 more than I had ever paid for a single bottle before. Initially it didn't seem worth it, but once it opened up a bit its certainly more representative of the price.

>>17627524
Just bought this for 109 before shipping and taxes
Gonna open it on a very special occasion because it was distilled the same year I was born.

>>17628246
Fuck forgot to add the picture, it’s 22 yr old Glenfiddich teaspooned with balvenie.

>>17624965
>black bush

>>17627525
>and it was good enough for pres Grant & Hunter Thompson
They drank a completely different recipe. It's shit now.

>>17620675
You know what they say, it's always 6:00pm somewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehwSM9n_Ko

MEN'S HOUR
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>>17627646
hello ranjid

simple as

>>17628656
does that hand look like it wipes poo?

Finally finished my bottle of Gentleman Jack tonight. I guess it was fine as a bottle to break my whiskey cherry but once I tasted some other stuff it was just fucking lame.

quick post an 80 proof whiskey that's not shit

>>17629246
Impossibile

When does drinking become a problem? I've started sipping on whiskey more as I approach my late 20s. It used to be 1 or 2 shots on the weekend. Now it's 1 or 2 shots every night.

Do I have a problem? Will I start to develop alcohol and liver cancer?

>>17629360
Look at the guidelines for 100 proof whiskey you shouldn’t be drinking ore than 7 ounces a week and you shouldn’t drink more than 2 ounces in one night,

>>17629413
So I'm guessing that means I'm going overboard with it? What is 1 shot? 1.5 ounces? I'm doing like 2 shots, maybe that's a sign that I should hold back.

>>17629736
Yeah it’s supposed to be 1.5 ounces but some people do only 1 ounce.

>>17629246
>and under $15 too

>>17629246
Starward Two-Fold, Glen Moray 15, Balvenie Double Wood, Glenfiddich 15, Glenlivet 18, Johnnie Walker Blue. From cheapest to most expensive and assuming you don't give a shit about cheaper picks.
Honestly I've shocked how small that list is, I've tried hundreds.

>>17630114
Laphroaig too.

oh boy a new basil hayden guaranteed to be worse than it could be because they just have to water all this shit down

>>17610512
Why would bongs bother with shit-tier American "whiskey" when they have decent-tier scotch and god-tier Irish whiskey?
Jack Daniels is only good for mixing with red bull.

>>17631155
this $200 mixer is the best

drinking whisky through a straw drop by drop is the ultimate connaisseur experience

>>17631513
you can suck whisky vapors through it, it's amazing

is irish whiskey supposed to be flavorless or is that just jameson? should I try scotch?

>>17611925
>Go to Europe
>Whiskey is European
>be shocked
Are Canadians really this stupid?

>>17631603
You get plenty of American swill over here too.

>>17631542
Jameson is just shitty, try bushmills lots of floral and citrus flavors.

I've had a weird experience with Talisker 12 years... with the newly opened bottle the strong taste and smell of peat / smoke was almost disgusting, but after one day it somehow dissipated and now it has a beautiful saltyness with a peaty / smoky flavour. I thought to have wasted 50 dollars, but now I think it was a good buy.
Any explaination for this phenomenon?

>>17631971
You get used to the peat, it happens with every peated whiskey.
That is a good price, last time I bought one it was $53, now it is $65 where I live.

>>17631971
>Any explaination for this phenomenon?
You were paid five rupees to make your post. Congratulations.

>>17610512
My most recent purchase was a bottle of lot 40.

>>17628252
You need to go back.

>>17628607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkdIqAEOtUM
Always bet on 8, m8.

>>17632193
So is 8pm a rip off of 6pm or is it older than the YouTube upload?

>>17631169
200 on secondary for sure, I think the msrp is 70 and that's about all it's worth. You're better off with a high proof JDBP, it is some of the best available "bourbon" around.

>>17612379
>Any teas similar to bourbon you can recommend, or should I take that to tea general?
Black Cask Bourbon Tea
https://www.harney.com/products/black-cask-bourbon?variant=30188696600647

Lapsang Souchong
https://www.harney.com/products/lapsang-souchong?variant=35000576262

>>17631155
They don't. The board is mainly American, and they come here arguing over their bottom tier trash and then get mad when anyone mentions a bottom tier scotch because that would be a price bracket up for them. Basically nobody has taken on board that price matters, and it varies widely across regions (worse for bourbon, which will also vary in quality across regions). Even though this becomes blatantly obvious whenever someone argues scotch vs bourbon or recommends Diageo (which seems to have scam pricing across the USA).
tl;dr Everyone who says X is good is usually saying it would be hard to find something better at X's price (where they live), and they're usually wrong (because I don't live there).

>>17632414
nobody does this, its just you

>>17631542
Jameson isn't that flavourless, especially for Irish.
Irish is generally oilier or waxier imo, and they don't tend to be intense. Everyone is sucking Red Breast's dick, but IMO it boring as fuck and any sherried scotch will out perform it for way cheaper.
Same deal for Green Spot and all the rest.
Bushmills 10 is okay, I'd compare it to cheaper Speysides. And by that I mean don't bother.

>>17631155
>le spooky scare quotes around thing i don't like
Crazy that you're of age

>>17632215
IIRC Kadco and the company that makes 8 PM are both owned by the same people and 8 PM is sold in India.

>>17632606
Oh ok

How do I get into peated whiskey? I have tried 1 product before that is somewhat peated and was completely turned off. It tasted awful and I could not finish the drink. I am open to trying new whiskeys as I love finished and high proof bourbons a lot. What would be a good starting point?

>>17631895
>>17632432
I have a bottle of bushmills as well but there just isn't any perceptible flavor other than the alcohol. but like even with a cheap rye or bourbon, I can actually taste something even though I might not know what it is that I'm tasting

>>17632777
Try something lightly peated like highland park before you try an Islay.

What's the general opinion on fireball? Do you consider it a valid whiskey? Do you think it's drinkable as anything other than shots at a frat party?

>>17632847
I just copy Horst's opinion about it

what are some good bourbons that are available in bongland for a non-drip off price?

>>17632859
Not bong but european. I think Wild Turkey is pretty alright for its price, which is under 20€ in most stores here.

>>17632859
I like 4 roses single barrel

>>17632905
is the small batch good?

>>17632847
fireball is the most based whiskey there is, it is the only cheapshit whiskey that gets a pass in my heart

>>17632847
It's awful for what it's done to the bourbon industry. All the shop owners I talk to basically have to sell boat loads of fireball in order to get good allocation. If they don't shill for it, and vodkas as well, then no Pappy or BTAC for them.

>>17627524
Remus Reserve Batch III. MSRP is $85 I think. I paid $90. I have a Blanton's but I know a guy so I got it for MSRP ($60). Probably could of turned around and sold it for $250 cuz muh Buffalo Trace.

>>17628785
Good shit. Got this around Christmas time but I'm waiting until the summer to start sipping it.

>>17629246
Old Grandad maybe? Not terrible, but just pay the extra few bucks for OGD BIB.

>>17633282
As someone who knows nothing about selling liquor, why do they need to sell so much of it?
Just because it's popular, so it's a shit-test if your store is functioning?

>>17630118
My bottle of Laphroaig 10 is 86 proof.

>>17632780
Just drink every day, after a few weeks/months you won't taste the alcohol and percieved flavor increases 10 fold. You dont actually need your liver doctors are lying to you it does nothing alcohol is actually good for you drink up bud.

>>17620675
>1 Damba Rd, Freetown
Sierra Leone. Africa. Makes sense

>>17632414
OBSESSED

>>17633386
Distributors being fuckin jews is the issue

>>17633386
I had a long conversation with one of my local stores owners and he said that its like a rat race. Who can sell the most and do the most volume in order to get those Pappys, Birthday bourbon etc. These bottles are then used as tools and sold to those few customers who do 1000 or more a year as a reward to keep them coming back (not always the case but most do this). They've done it to me before, they use bait like Blanton's or Eagle Rare to bait you in then BAM your hooked. Then you come in every week like a crack addict asking if they have anything in the back, then leave with some on the shelf bottle.

>>17632859
Wild Turkey 101
>>17632946
Yeah but if you can find the small batch elect get that one.

>>17634074
so distilleries are only selling to stores that sell well?

>>17634097
No, we have a 3 tier system in the U.S. distilleries have to sell to distributors and distributors put these demands on liquor stores to get allocated bottles. It’s really the distributors that are the kikes.

>>17634095
Small batch select

>>17634100
It's destroying the hunt for me because it's not even worth it. I used to hunt action figures and I thought that shit was hard to hunt, but hunting rare bourbon is on a whole other level. You basically either have to suck off the store owner or pay secondary prices to get what you want. While there are some good options on the shelf (WT101, OGD114, JDBS) most of it is low proof bullshit that isn't worth your time. The stuff that I want is between 107-140 proof and most of that stuff is allocated. I hope that the bubble bursts soon because I'm tired of wasting gas, time, and money on this hobby.

>>17634127
People just like you are the reason why this shit is so bad right now.

>>17634127
t. tater

Is Old Forester 100 ANY good? It is $20.59 at my store due to a sale right now

>>17634200
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/6f5bc7e5_PillowYes.png">

>>17634200
Yeah, it is really good.

>>17610512
golden label is good but pricey

>>17634153
How so? I want the people who are in it for the money to leave, I'm only after the good juice and it happens to be higher proof. I want it to be available at all times to where I don't have to hunt for it. I only hunt out of necessity.
>>17634162
How tf am I a tater? I wouldn't walk into a store and buy a rare bottle over msrp, or buy something because it had the gold tater sticker. I also realize that there are great bottles on the shelf i.e., OGD114. Hell, I like it better than Pappy 20, that shit is way too over oaked. I just want higher proof stuff, that's what my palate skews towards, most of it happens to be rare as hell. I'm not that fucking guy walking into a store every week shouting "Yalll gOt anY bLaNtonS?!?". I used to be like that but now I despise Blanton's.

>>17634230
Because people like you did not exist before, people did not drive from store to store across their state looking for rare bourbons and buy up every thing they see.
You are not thr only one who does this, there are tens of thousands of people just like you who buy up every single rare bourbon to where normal consumers can only find shelf available products that every place has, as you even stated it is hard for you to find stuff, because people like you are looking.

>>17634230
You drive around to other areas not near you "hunting" for bottles increasing demand and buying the bottle I could have in the place I live. If I see you im pissing in your gas tank.

<img class="xae" data-xae width="30" height="30" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/83cf2699_Aquacry.png">

>>17634238
>>17634239
Both of you are absolutely insane. I alone cannot make people collectively stop hunting. What I want isn't available near me, so I have to drive to get it. What do you suppose I do don't participate? Me not participating will not stop people from hunting. I also don't hoard them or anything I get 1 bottle if I see something rare and leave the rest. The demand has created this problem and it won't stop until there are less people consuming bourbon. Until these companies make more warehouses, get more high age products out there, and meet demand then there is nothing anyone can do. There is no reason to be mad at me.

>>17634273
No one said it was you who single handedly did this, stop coping.
It’s people like you who collectively behave like this that has caused it.

>>17634202
>>17634220
You guys aren't lying to me, right?

>>17634284
Why are you laying the blame on the consumer thought? It's mainly the fault of the companies for not meeting demand and fucking over retailers with the 3-tier system. People hunting is a reaction to low supply from the company, and high demand from the consumer. The consumer wouldn't hunt and act like this if the companies were doing their job right. You need to quit coping and let the company take some accountability on this one.

>>17634306
I would go with 1910 or 1920, best on the shelf options for OF in my opinion.

>>17634327
>>I would go with 1910 or 1920, best on the shelf options for OF
Those bottles are $40-48, twice as much as the 100 proof bottle. I don't know if it is worth it.

>>17634332
If you are looking for 20-dollar range, please do wild turkey 101. It's da best.

>>17634321
Nigga you are the "demand". Normal people dont drive around for hunting for whiskey. You are the problem.

>>17615479
I used to be a scotch snob, lagavulin or bowmore sherry cask were my go to's. I still love an islay, but not much is smoother than CC. Definately the budget heavy drinker whiskey. Im 42 now so i care a bit more about value over flash. But all the same, i can down a pint of CC like water, smooth as butter.

>>17634306
I’m drinking it right now, I actually like it very slightly more than WT101 but I love both, it is a budget bourbon like WT don’t expect it to be like a $60 bottle.

>>17634339
You still don't understand that it's the companies fault. We wouldn't be in this position if they would have kept up with demand. You would be a part of the problem too because you want it bad but you're just not willing to drive for it. It's not the fault of the consumer for wanting the product, it's the fault of the company for not giving us what we demand.

>>17634400
Thats called entitlement

>>17634400
>You still don't understand that it's the companies fault
Do you know what the bourbon boom in zoomie?
They didn’t know that bourbon was going to become this popular, bourbon is an aged product you can’t just make more today and have more right now.

If I happen to come across this mythical pappy what’s a good price?

>>17634422
Retail

>>17634425
Alright, I guess that’s the LMGTFY, from what I found it’s like 1800 “retail” whatever the fuck that means. Crazy.

>>17634418
Yes, I am fully aware of the bourbon boom. What do you suppose we do though?!? Quit hunting? How else will I get what I want when I have to go out of my way to get it? I can't just expect it to come to me, that's silly.

>>17634443
Please just shut up. This feigned plebbit indignation schtick is the most tired bullshit out there. You’re both assholes, let it drop.

>>17634451
No I must CONSOOM how dare companies not produce whiskey and funko pops to meet my demand. I DESERVE PRODUCTS. I DESERVE DOPAMINE.

>>17634435
I mean more msrp not so much anything a store will charge, if you plan on drinking it it isn’t worth much more than msrp.

>>17634451
Dude why are you involving yourself in this, I'm just trying to smash some gash

>>17610512
Imagine drinking <span class="xae" data-xae="nerd">&#x1F913;[/spoiler]

>>17634460
When you said retail I assumed you meant msrp, and it was maybe 100-150 and just got marked up by distributors, but from “googling” it all I could find was 1800 minimum. Can’t imagine anyone paying that much to drink, just collector shit.

>>17634454
FAKE, I only enjoy the finest figures

>>17634476
>Can’t imagine anyone paying that much to drink, just collector shit.
Yeah, idk what they are thinking, maybe they think it will go up in price and they can sell it to someone else idk.
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Where typical mass market whiskeys like Jameson ever "good," or have they always been extremely mediocre? I sipped some for the first time in a while recently, and it got me thinking about how many enthusiasts claim the average quality of whisky offerings has dropped somewhat over the decades due to brand consolidation and more tendency to lean on marketing/hype.

I know I've heard that Johnny Walker for instance was once a much better product.

>>17634521
I know it is 100% true for bourbon, during the glut era and before the average bourbon tasted a lot better than what is sold for $80 now, there is some exemptions but it is mostly true.

Complete whiskeylet here. What is the best whiskey to get drunk on?<img class="xae" data-xae width="31" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/099390a2_peepoBlanket.png">

>>17634541
Drink in moderation fren<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="31" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/f93f9e5a_AYAYA.png">

>>17634521
Maybe I’m just a tastelet but I’ve been drinking Jameson since 2003 off and on and it’s never released it’s sweet deadly hold on my tongue. Also emojis are the gayest fucking April fools gag to do.

<img class="xae" data-xae width="28" height="25" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/25086889_FeelsSpecialMan.png">:FeelsSpecialMan: AUUUUUUGH I NEED MY BTAC ALLOCATION THIS YEAR OR I WILL DIEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK :KEKW::KEKW::KEKW:

>>17632283
Was gonna recommend lapsang souchong, it's like BBQ in a cup.

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>it's smooth

Walked in to buy a glenmorangie, walk out with laphroaig

after trying a range of different scotch i have to say the variety in taste is far less noticeable than i would have expected. it basically boils down to smoky/non smoky and distillate driven/cask finish driven. last night i tried arran, hazelburn and aultmore and the differences between them were minimal.

my latest haul, never heard of wolfburn before

>>17635567
based on-right-side-of-history-bro

>>17635567
>>17635587
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/24edafcc_wojakNPC.png">

>>17635587
>>17635567
I hate Russians as much as every eu csgo player, but the ukranian flag on the bottle is kinda gay

Must say I am pleasantly surprised by the laphroaig 10, the smell is much intenser than the taste. First few second of a sip are even somewhat sweet.
However it is a whiskey I would take more time with rather than some 'easier' whiskys I got

It what jesus would drink

>>17635567
>>17635587
"YOU DONT KNOW WHAT GAY IS!!!"

>>17637156
>I want my Uki limited Edition Whiskey to display on my caseywasey <img class="xae" data-xae width="27" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/03d18964_AngryWojak.png">

>>17634855
Like your brain if you actually think that's a gotcha <img class="xae" data-xae width="30" height="29" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/51cbf903_PepeLaugh.png">

>>17634855
Horst uses smooth so I do it too <img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="31" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/e1899bbe_YEP.png">

>>17610685
Sexy. Ardnamurchan is good but still a bit young in my opinion. But I am looking forward to the new peated CS they\re releasing soon. Young peat can be absolutely fantastic!

>>17637227
Horst is a glownigger asset <img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/c69a1ef1_cia.png">

>>17637252
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/8b7cc3e0_WTFF.png">

>still waiting for my friend to get me makers mark <img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="31" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/6ec0dd2c_pepoRope.png">

>>17637256
j-just don't get your hopes up too much... on your stoner friend and the Mark itself

>>17615282
I picked up a bottle of Silkie earlier this week, it was my first time seeing it at a local liquor store and the looked nice and wasn't too much more expensive than like Jameson.
Haven't tried it yet though, still finishing off a bottle of Buffalo Trace but I'll probably open it up later tonight.

>>17615272
>>17637266
I totally forgot, but now I remember after seeing it on the shelves in the background.
Greenspot is also a decently priced irish whisky that is somewhat similar to Redbreast

>>17637254
he is shilling end of history/american dream neolib nonsense on his channel, that should be enough of a clue to any smart person<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/24edafcc_wojakNPC.png">

>>17637288
nigger, just always click to the nosing timestamp

>>17637265
i gave him 35 fucking dollars at the start of it incase of tax and he's said "yea i'll have it by next week" countless times

>>17637307
He probably bought weed with the money

>>17637319
probably
to be clear its a friend of a friend which is even more unreliable
my friend who's the middleman lives right next to me so i could shiv his kneecaps at any time if he tried anything with it, but i have no clue about his friend
he's talking about just getting his boss to buy it at this point

>>17637338
Bruh why are you under 21, just get older

>>17620675
You know, every time I see that pic I wonder if it’s just rebadged engine coolant.

>>17637501
You know, every time I see your mom I wonder if it’s just your dad with a wig.<img class="xae" data-xae width="28" height="26" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/adf2d2f0_EZY.png">

>hfw whiskies that aren't cinnamon flavored

Famous Grouse is the only whiskey you need.

>>17637266
let me know what you think of it!

Sent from my samsung - SM-A115U1

>>17637256
is maker's mark rare in your area or something? it's absolutely everywhere here and often used as a mixer

Sent from my samsung - SM-A115U1

>>17638161
I think he is under 21, probably even under 18

>>17638161
not 21, and i have shitty friends

How does Johnnie Walker Black label compare to Red? I'm about to finish a bottle of the Red stuff, I think I'll splash out on a bottle of Black tomorrow

>>17638259
From my understanding it has better quality barrels in it, and also has little bit of peat.
Double black if you want even more peat.

>>17638259
Haven't tried the red, but black is alright if you want to try lightly peated whisky

I can barely taste peat in even the Double Black.

>>17638273
How do they fit barrels in a bottle of whiskey?

>>17638755
Very slowly

>>17610512
Are other spirits welcome here? Picked up a bottle of this recently. Good stuff, it's very whisky-like so I would recommend it for whisky drinkers looking to branch out.

>>17638814
Damn thats one ugly label. I'm a whiskey guy but honestly a lot of aged rums are pretty similar in taste to whiskey just a lot sweeter.

>>17638814
why not, these kinds of threads wont be easily derailed by similar topics

>>17634332
Haven't tried the 1910 yet, but I have the 1920 and it's definitely worth it. I posted this pic above: >>17619818

If money is a concern, definitely go for the OGD114. It's almost as good as OF1920, but it's also less than half the cost of OF1920, at least near me (OF1920 = $54USD, OGD114 = $26USD, both for a 750ml bottle).

>>17638901
I got one of the last OGD 114 in my area, haven’t seen it since, hopefully it is back before I finish this one.40vp0

>>17638848
Yeah it's dated, but at least the label has all the info on it.
>>17638852
Cool. I am a fan of all kinds of spirits, but I'll throw in some ryes and malts to keep it on topic. Been working my way through pic related, do recommend for any who are interested in a dry and spicy rye.

Normally a rye whiskey guy, High West Double Rye, Knob Creek, whistlepig, Old Overholt(I still cannot believe how good that shit is for $20), etc. I decided to go a but out of the wheelhouse and got Ardbeg 10 year, and I'm loving this. Is there any other Islays I should look for that just take this smoke and peat to the absolute extreme? Also, do they get any darker?

>>17639185
Have you tried wilderness trail rye?
I really recommend it, it’s great.

>>17639226
Laphroaig Quarter Cask, and Lagavulin 16 are peat monsters that I have tried. I have a bottle of Lagavulin 16 at the moment and it's like a liquid camp fire. I love it.
>>17639231
Haven't tried it. Thanks for the recommendation, added to my list.

>>17639226
>to the absolute extreme?
Octomore is the answer, but they aren’t that easy to find and it has so much peat that after a bit you can’t even taste it anymore.

>>17639226
Ardbeg Corryvreckan is the 10 on steroids with a really lovely pineapple note to it.

>>17639226
>Also, do they get any darker?
Islays aged for a long time aren't terribly common because the longer you age them the more the peat fades.

>>17639233
>>17639259
Are these normally shelf stocked or harder to find?
The place I go to has had a bottle of Old Pulteney 25 sitting around for a few years now, because they want $500. I've had their 21 or 23, and it was good, but not $500 good.

>>17639286
Laphroaig Quarter Cask is uncommon (at least where I live). Lagavulin 16 is everywhere so you should be able to find it easily.

>>17639286
Laphroaig 10 is quite common and better than Laphroaig Quarter Cask anyways.
It's cheap as fuck at Costco if your local Costco sells booze. Costco is also the cheapest place to find Lagavulin.

>>17639457
I already drink 1 and a half bottles a week. The last thing I need is to buy it in industrial quantities.

>>17611925
Nobushi is pretty good imo
Some people think its japanese but nope, 100% made in Alberta.

>>17639483
They're 750 ml bottles at Costco lol
It's just Laphroaig 10 is ~$40 at Costco and in the 50's everywhere else. Lagavulin is ~$65-70 at Costco and over $90 most other places.

>>17639625
Got a 1.75 liter of Wild Turkey 101 a couple weeks ago at Costco.

>>17639627
For $29

>>17639627
I mean yeah they do have handles at Costco but the Laphroaig and Lagavulin are 750's.
For those who need a mixing scotch, they have handles of Dewar's for under $20 there.

Tried a minature Wild Turn 101
Tasting notes:
>Plastic
>Water park

>>17639625
What state? Here Laphroig is $65 and Lavaulin is $95

>>17639259
How does the Uigeadail compare to corry? I love corry.

>>17639768
generally disregard Uigeadail. it has the secondary Lagavulin 16 hype attached these days. if you must have one, really research the bottling date to see how it fares before getting burned like I did.

what are you supposed to drink if you can afford something more expensive than wt but don't want to go full readet

>>17641166
save up some money, drinking is meant to be enjoyed, not binged

>>17641180
I've never enjoyed anything in my life

>>17641207
same<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="30" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/ed7d4c3a_wojakWithered.png">

>>17615323
>>17615272
Nice I have 101 and Redbreast unopened right now. Good taste anons. <span class="xae" data-xae="thup">👍[/spoiler]

Picked up the Belle Meade Reserve, apparently they're discontinuing it in favor of a new label

>>17637156
>Karens, gooks, mooslimes and zoomers
saves me a whole lot on skipping everything Cadenhead and Springbank from now on

>>17639762
Commiefornia
Booze is the only cheap thing here

>>17641313
what the fuck

I like laphroaig, but the marketing saying it's the big scary peaty islay is kinda bullshit.

four roses small batch select or single barrel?

>>17642189
Single barrel for me, the price difference is not really worth it for me

>>17642189
Single barrel because more rye means more flavor.

:PepoThink:

>>17642213
>>17642237
I'm just looking for something really smooth to sip on. Should I stick with four roses or look at something like buffalo trace or elijah craig?

>>17642289
I'd say 4 Roses Sib, Buffalo trace and Elijah are all decent, just a matter of personal preference at that point

>>17642309
which way would you point a newbie? Tried WT 101 back in the day and wasn't big on it

>>17642314
Makers mark, or larceny

>>17642314
Bourbon spice might make the smoothness a bit harsher than other whisky's, but I started drinking bourbon with makers mark

>>17612379
Start making you own kombucha it's cheaper and you can make it any flavor you can think of. I had to stop drinking because of stomach problems and replaced it with kombucha. Now I don't have stomach problems and I still drink kombucha. Tea, not garbage sold at Walmart is another good thing to get into.

>>17642375
what's the difference between smoothness and flavor with whiskey and bourbon? like when I tried WT 101 back as an underaged drinker it was ice cold and tasted like ice cold ethanol. I'm looking for as little alcohol taste as possible.

>>17642596
Try WT 101 again if that was your only experience, it is the best budget bourbon ever, just try it at room temperature or with an ice cube in the glass.

>>17642596
most bourbon whisky has some 'spicyness' to it sort of similar to pepper. If you really want something non alcoholic tasting, smoothish whisky you could try scotch whisky. Speyside whisky's are very beginner friendly and go down very easy. Some examples are Glenlivet, Glenfiddich and Glen Morray.
If you want to try bourbon but the ethanol taste is a bit much add an ice cube or just a few drops water. WT101 has quite the high ABV for a starter so it's not crazy the ethanol stood out

>>17642289
>I'm just looking for something really smooth to sip on.
t.NPC

>>17639226
>Is there any other Islays I should look for that just take this smoke and peat to the absolute extreme?

Just check one of the charts, like in my pic (lower left corner).

>>17642289
Sounds like you should stick to what comes out of your boyfriend's cock.

>>17642596
The spicy flavor or bourbon comes from the rye in the mash, so more rye gives you more spice.

Bourbon also has a syrup or butter texture or taste which comes from being aged in new charred maple barrels. That’s my favorite part of bourbon. You can find that taste a bit in other whiskeys that have been aged in used bourbon barrels, but it’s much more pronounced in bourbon.

>>17642596
wt101 tastes like shit when chilled
hell whiskey on the rocks is mostly a meme unless your using cheap high proof stuff

>>17644067
>whiskey on the rocks is mostly a meme
dude, go touch grass. boomers love whisky and their scotch on the rocks. it's all the try-hard faggots sipping room temp from a dainty glencairn after binging on youtube videos and reddit cringe. there's nothing wrong with drinking expensive booze on the rocks

>>17644197
and boomers don't know any better
idk it just feels wasteful to me, then again there's no wrong way to drink whiskey, but I think more people would like it if they didn't default to putting their liquor in the freezer