/ck/ - Food & Cooking

What do you think happens? The salt just ceases to exist? Not every pasta dish involves a thick sauce, anon

>>17508218
>oooAARGHH YOU NEED SALT I'M GOING INSAAAANE!!!
No you don't.

the lie that I hate the most is that putting olive oil in the water makes the sauce not stick to the pasta, when it is literally only used to keep the water from boiling over when the starches start being released. the tiny bit of oil is the first part of the pasta water that goes when you dump the pasta into the colander.

>>17508204
pasta cooks better with as much water as possible so the temperature doesn't drop when you drop it in. also pasta is bland and even when you go back to medieval recipes pasta was meant to be cooked in sea water.

no, you don't have to do any of these things to accomplish a boiled pasta, but you definitely should

>>17508204
salt only makes the water boil faster, and back in the day they boiled seawater if they were on the coasts, because using the public well was a good place to get ambushed if you were from an opposing non-aligned family. The mafia started in Roman times and lasted to today, but was even more brutal during the renaissance.

I always thought the salt on water was to make it boil quicker
>>17508227
I always thought putting oil in the water was so that the pasta wouldn't stick together when cooking

>NOOO YOU CANT JUST ADD SPAGHETTI NOODLES TO COLD WATER BECAUSE THAT WOULD SAVE TIME AND RESOURCES!!!
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BREAK NOODLES IN HALF TO COOK THEM EQUALLY!!!

>>17508241
anon you can make kraft dinner all you want but people with discerning taste want long strands of actual al dente, slightly salted, pasta on their plates

>>17508244
>dIsCeRnInG tAsTe!!!
>OH MY GOD THE BROKEN NOODLE TASTES DIFFERENT
ok sweetheart

>>17508218
Imagine having a salt addiction. I hope you get better soon. Going cold turkey works.

>>17508245

>>17508239
Objectively wrong and retarded.

Fresh water was available to all social classes in ancient Rome, along with the best sewer system that is better than some modern nations sans water treatment. It was never strong armed during the Republic or Empire.

t. Roman historian with emphasis on Roman infrastructure.

You also salt the fucking water like with rice, barley, or any boiled grain.

>>17508240
well, oil sits on the top of the water. if you fell for a 4chan meme it was because they were making fun of you.

>>17508269
considering that the tomato didn't even come to Italy until after the Spaniards colonized south america, and the italian diet after before and after the fall of rome until the renaissance, I'm going to call you t. full of shit.

>>17508274
*consisted of wheat bread

>>17508241
based

>>17508241
>breaking speghetti
>you just push them into boiling water and take a few seconds, or they will just do it on their own
why are people so fucking lazy? can't take a few minutes to not ragepost about some stupid twitter comment for a few minutes anymore?

>>17508315
It's not just that they are lazy, they are also very stupid and functionally retarded and think they are smart because they read comments from other functionally retarded stupid people on the internet.

>>17508226
He didn't say need. He implied it depends. Pasta is simple but it can also be complex. Makes sense considering it is the base of a dish and rarely the dish itself.
>>17508241
>>17508303
I read somewhere people don't break pasta in half due to some old chinese tradition about it being bad luck or something. Sounds accurate considering how nonsensical it is to care about that.

>>17508226
salt water is for handmade pasta, not the dried shit you buy at the grocery store.

>>17508346
salt water is for both

>>17508364
salt water is for salt addicts with no tastebuds

>>17508367
m8

>>17508367
can I lick the sweat off of your 'balls' I need my fix

>>17508233
If you're putting a modern amount of sauce pasta doesn't need salt. In fact having unsalted pasta is a better contrast to a bunch of sauce.

>>17508387
depends on the sauce
if you're just dumping a jar of prego in then yeah probably don't need to season anything

>>17508387
the pasta should be delicious by itself even before a sauce touches it, regardless of the sauce. leeching it in plain boiling water does not accomplish this

>>17508233
>i am a retard and love to as much water as possible for no reason because i am a fucking cancer

i really hate people who waste water

>>17508233
>i am a retard and love to waste as much water as possible for no reason because i am a fucking cancer

i really hate people who waste water

>>17508470
Is it even possible to waste water? It goes somewhere right? And our planet needs water right? Unless someone is firing that shit into space, how is it being wasted?

>>17508470
oh shut the fuck up

>>17508455
>>17508457
Do you also think we should add sugar to bread and put less sugar in our jams to compensate?

>>17508248
you know salt is good for you right? your body uses it to produce blood

>>17508204
> Oh wait no you can easily cook 250g of pasta in like 1.5L of water.
badly. having more water increase the heat capacity and gives you a more consistent cooking time and makes really hard to cook pasta during winter and in cold countries

> it literally does not matter once the pasta touches sauce.
It does matter since you can taste it. If you can't good for you, but majority of people aren't retarded

>>17508241
You can but pasta needs 80C to start cooking, so you aren't actually save any resource

>>17508784
Starting noodles in cold water is better actually because you get more gluten in the pasta water, and if you are a decent cook you should be reserving some pasta water to add to the sauce

>>17508815
>Starting noodles in cold water is better actually because you get more gluten in the pasta water
absolutely not. And also you don't need any more starch than what pasta release "normally"
> a decent cook you should be reserving some pasta water to add to the sauce
A decent cook realize that you don't need so much starch, you are not making pizza from the pasta water

>>17508784
>badly.
Wrong, idiot. It's just pasta. It cooks. It's not fucking rocket science. Get over yourself.

>>17508784
>It does matter since you can taste it.
>UUUU I NEED MORE SALT ;_; MORE SALT MOMMY I CAN STILL TASTE THE FOOD
lol

>>17509872
You're such a retard that you think any of this actually matters. Desperate cultist doing things "lIkE gRaNdMa dId"... because IT'S JUST HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT, OK!!!

>>17508204
It's Italians, they are some of the most pretentious cucks around when it comes to food. Throw little tantrums anytime you don't do something exactly how their gramama does it.

>>17508226
If you don't like to season food just say that

>>17508315
I don't break my pasta but Italians losing their fucking minds acting like it's some atrocity is very annoying.
>>17508322
>read somewhere people don't break pasta in half due to some old chinese tradition
Italians absolutely lose their shit when they see this. Makes no sense. Think it's just being overprotective of their food culture or something, they like to feel superior and tell you only they know how to do it right or something.

>>17511010
>retarded twitter letter capitalization meme
as if we needed more reasons to discard the fuck out of your opinion

>>17511010
>Desperate cultist
way to out yourself as a brain-damaged aewtist

You salt the water so osmosis will bring the salt inside the pasta as it cooks instead of just having a salty sauce sitting on the outside of the pasta

>>17511005
> It's not fucking rocket science.
It's chemistry
That's how it works retard

I got some pasta tips for you fucc niggas:
>you don't need the water to be boiling for the pasta to start cooking
It starts cooking at like 76°c according to tests done by J Kenji Lopez Alt, so if the water is past that point you're good, will save you some time
>you don't need the whole pot to be full of water
Just keep everything submerged below the water line and you're good, it's great for like pennes or rigatonis and whatnot, also helps with making the water more starchy for the sauce and you won't need to use as much salt

>>17508204
lol ok underage tendies microwaver
just learn to cook
no, you dont need copious amounts of water to cook pasta
yes, add salt to the water after it boils - season that fucking pasta ffs

you dont understand the utter magic of human life and beauty and ingenuity, how simple things becomes fantastic things.
so - FUCK YOU - til you catch the fuck up

>>17508204
MY AUTHENTIC PAISANO ITALAIN COOKING! JUST LIKE GRANDMAMA USED TO MAKE

>>17512603
i bet all the other 14 year olds banned from tictok think this is a funny post

>>17512615
once we kill off all the other brown skins your next guido fucking wop
AYE PASTA FAGIOLI MUY ON TOPICO

>>17512623
That's chili with pasta you cretin
Why are you even on /ck/ if you are so clueless about food lol
american were a mistake

Not adding salt to pasta is the same as not adding salt to pizza dough. You can make the sauce and other toppings as salty as you want, the bread will still taste bland and you'll notice that. Because food is made up of separate parts, not some homogenous mush.

>>17508204
because Italians

>>17508204
You do have to salt the water,even lightly.No idea why but I can tell and it slyghtly changes the flavour

>>17508470
>Live in England
>Running low on water
>If only I didn't cook pasta!

>>17508233
Sea water is as much as 35g salt per litre which is so salty that the pasta would be inedible. Maybe half and half I could believe, but 10g per litre would be considered a high (but good) amount.

>>17508472
Water goes into sewage or the sea and then it has to be treated again.

>>17513099
We had a country wide drought a few years ago.

Here is how pasta is prepared by the traditional italian families I've known ...

Boil it in a saucepan with salted water. Dump it out. Serve it with some olive oil. Start grabbing handfuls of it and bickering.

It must be nice to be able to feed a family of 5 for about 1eu per meal.

>>17513165
literally just the Italian version of honey booboo's "butter and sketti"

>>17513155
>10g per litre
This, 1% by weight is a good rule of thumb for salting large volumes of food.

>>17513178
yes.

>>17513161
>We had a country wide drought a few years ago
Yes and that's memorable because if how rare that sort of thing is here, it's not like we are Australia where everything is either spiders or on fire.

>>17508204
/ck/ is in a terrible state, cooking food was never about the method you used, if you keep trying old recipes and shitposting about how it is done you will never discover a new taste, fuck you all, I'm going to boil my lunch spaghetti with milk to see what happens

>>17513309
It'll be a decent base for a cheese sauce by the end.
Lotta starch in that reduced milk, so if you gradually add a bit of cheese at a time you should be able to make a nice sauce.

>>17513315
will try it, thanks

>>17513309
You think pasta in milk is something novel?

>>17508204
lol true Italian food is the easiest thing ever even women can cook it successfully sometimes

>>17508470
>living somewhere where water isn't fresh and in abundance

>>17508226
...if you use a very salty sauce

>>17513978
Apparently McPeople are still unable to make it correctly

/ck/ rags on italian cuisine but makes posts like this that demonstrate their lack of understanding of it with a straight face

>>17508204
>Why do people act like this cheap, simplistic peasant food is some kind of sacred cow that must always be treated with obsequious propitiation and ritual?

Because human beings need to feel like they're part of something bigger than they are. Defending the sanctity of the paskettis is one way they can feel important.

>you can easily cook 250g of pasta in 1.5l of water

You can go even lower than that.

Cook it like rice by putting in water just until it's entirely covered, and simmering it until it's gone, and it keeps all the starch, very nice for thick mac and cheese and the like

>>17514059
> reddit certified psychology

>WHY IS IT TREATED LIKE A SACRED COW

Because a lot of home Italian recipes are simple as fuck recipes passed down from family and have like 2-3 high quality ingredients with pasta shapes that "pair" well with the ingredients

people insist on using sugary jarred sauces full of seed oil and preservatives, breaking the noodles, overcooking the noodles, adding TOO MUCH FUCKING CHEESE, and generally fucking up the entire thing to make fatty fat as fatass amerilard cuisine when it's so fucking simple to cook and ingrained in your family that it's mind boggling to see done wrong
To make a videogame analogy because you're zoomers, watch that clip of a game journalist failing to jump over a box in Cuphead for like 5 minutes straight.
Jumping over a box in a videogame is second nature to you, you don't even think about it.
Here comes this fucking idiot who can't do it and insists the game must be trash or needs to be "improved" somehow.

You can make a decent pasta with random house ingredients like fucking garlic, olive oil, and a pinch of parsley.
Alfredo is like three fucking ingredients.
Roux is two fucking ingredients. Add cheese and you have mac and cheese.
Maybe some pepper flakes.
But instead people will buy canned shit, instant powders, overcook the noodles, make god awful "sauces", cook them just plain wrong, refuse to learn how to do it right and insist there's no right way.

It's like the fucking sausage pizza on kitchen nightmares.
This is a fucking awful pizza but all you faggots see is OOOH SO CHEESY AND GREASY MUH CARBS PIZZA IS LIKE SEX XD

Fuck you idiot have some self esteem

>>17514381
Go even lower beyond, throw it straight in the sauce.

>>17508204
>1.5L of water is a lot ...

Pasta is cheap, especially if you make it yourself.

>>17514533
Just fucking eat the ingredients and jump around a lot.

>>17514544

>>17513309
>lunch spaghetti with milk
You have different spaghettis for each meal?

>>17513219
Always makes me smile when I remember an entire continent is typecast as hell on earth.

>>17508226
salt is literally possibly the most important micronutrient for human beings

>>17514459
imagine being this autistic about carbs tomato and cheese

>>17508204
>Oh wait, you don't have to salt the water at all, it literally does not matter once the pasta touches sauce.
I think it's generally better to salt the water because I like the pasta itself to have a little saltiness to it, but it depends what type of pasta, what type of sauce, personal taste preferences. I do however typically cook my pasta in a relatively small pot.

>>17508204
I never do, Italians are just pretentious cunts

>must always be treated with obsequious propitiation and ritual?
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

>>17515868
>It's actually really fucking simple stop fucking it up
>HURR STOP BEING AUTISTIC

t. fucks up his carbs tomatoes and cheese