/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17481544

>>17481561

Is coffee good for you?

Is there a real difference between flat and conical burrs or is is just a meme?

>>17481578
It is more good for you than it is bad.

>>17481561
lel

From the previous thread.
I have a flair pro 2 which has the metal screen.
I have a new bag of dark roast and after pouring in the water into the chamber it dislodges the screen causing it to brew (fucking awfully) in the chamber itself.
I've tried 18g & 16g and going slightly courser as I was wondering if it were too fine (might still be the case)

>>17481605
we already told you to jb weld it

>>17481605
why did you get a flair? we were just trolling dude

Is this a good deal?

>>17481624
Not really because the inbuilt grinder is shitty. You would have to buy a Breville SGP separately.

>>17481627
Breville sgp?

>>17481635
I can't tell if you are joking or not

>>17481636
Smart grinder pro? The reviews seem pretty good, do you have one too?

>>17481639
Of course. It's the only grinder backed by real science. No other company has authorized a peer-reviewed scientific study on the grind distribution of their flagship grinder aside from Breville with their SGP.

>>17481644
Is it better than the Sette 270?

>>17481653
There is no scientifically accurate peer-reviewed documentation on the Sette 270's grind distribution so I don't see why you would ever spend money on something like that when there is no way to even see how good it is.

>>17481657
Are you trolling me?

>>17481659
No why would I do that

How well do coffee grinders work for peppercorn?

>>17481619
>why did you get a flair? we were just trolling dude
It's been giving excellent espresso's prior

>>17481676
Nothing will work as good as the Pepper Cannon

>>17481676
Please don't

I went from a hario slim to a q2 and the quality of my brews jumped noticeably. Easier to dial out excess bitterness or sourness.

>>17481682
don't what

>>17481681
I'm not sure I'm ready to spend $200 on a pepper mill yet.
>>17481682
You think getting something like a Timemore C2 would be bad for pepper?

>>17481735
If you're not buying the weber peppermill just get a unicorn when they're back in stock.
http://www.unicornmills.org/

>>17481740
>weber peppermill
tapdancing fuck why is a pepper mill $320

Can you use a weber peppermill for coffee?

>>17481761
should it be less than 100$? damn right. I can buy 3 bicycles for the cost of a pepper mill goddamit I love joe biden

I've watched a number of vids on it, including ones by the actual creator, but I still have a bit of a hard time making consistently good pulls/cups from my (roommate's) Cafelat robot. Any tips you guys have? Maybe tips on manual espresso pulling in general, but especially for the robot

>>17481802
>Any tips you guys have?
yeah sell it and get a Silvia

>>17481624
Breville is cheap stuff. It works as advertised but does NOT do it well.

for me it's Nescafé Taster's Choice, iced, with french vanilla creamer for Lidl

>>17481831
>Silvia is $830 on amazon
>aeropress is $30
espresso is cursed

>>17481880
>Lidl
I prefer Aldin

>>17481802
What grinder and whats your routine? You should be cycling at least two rounds of boiling water through it before your first shot.

>>17481886
used silvias can be had locally for a couple hundo cash but your grinder matters way more

>>17481892
I think at this point I'll stick to filter coffee at home so I can appreciate espresso at cafes

>>17481908
cafe espresso is unironically much worse than at home though

>>17481911
filter coffee is too though.

>>17481913
everything is worse at the average cafe but the gap between homemade espresso especially is huge

>>17481925
I understand what you're saying, except if I never get to experience homemade espresso the difference to me in effect doesn't matter. I already autismo over filter coffee. I can at least enjoy cafe espresso this way. I'm never gonna spend that pretty penny it costs for a passable home espresso setup. I'm resigned to my fate, even though I love espresso.
here is an anime reaction image so you can view me with disdain instead of pity.

>>17481891
I usually use either my Commandante or my roommate's Niche to grind.

Routine
>Grind 18g (admittedly I am not the best at finding the sweet spot for espresso grinds)
>Use the distributer, then tamp, place the screen on the grinds (I started experimenting w/ adding a wetted aeropress filter inbetween the grinds and the metal screen, to a fairly nice affect)
>Water immediately off boil, fill the cup with the grinds for about 10 seconds,
>10 second pre-infusion
>pull as solid of a stream I can without rupturing/channeling the puck to 36g

I never do the 2 rounds of boiling cycle, but I'm interested. Do you just do a coffee-less pull, essentially? Ultimately I think most of my problems probably come from the grind

>>17481966
kinu/commandante or a used eureka mignon or sette 30/270 + used gaggia classic or a silvia is perfectly attainable dude

Reposting question: >>17481716
Shoulda checked the catalogue more thoroughly, have a semen demon for the inconvenience.

>>17481967
>Do you just do a coffee-less pull, essentially?
Yep.
>Ultimately I think most of my problems probably come from the grind
Try pulling 45g of water through in the same time. You're fucking yourself by sticking to a static ratio. Tweak everything you can. Grind, ratio, time, longer preinfusion whatever, just do it with as hot of a machine as you can.

>>17481980
Pay the $15 for a laser cut metal one or print one out.
https://www.kruveinc.com/pages/downloads

>>17482001
>Try pulling 45g of water through in the same time. You're fucking yourself by sticking to a static ratio. Tweak everything you can. Grind, ratio, time, longer preinfusion whatever, just do it with as hot of a machine as you can.
That's what I feared, but figured had to happen eventually - although I'll take more care to get it as hot as possible. I definitely wasn't doing that enough. Thanks anon

>>17481887
Theres no Aldi near me so

>>17482027
Lemme know how it goes. I've been doing the manual shit across two flairs since 2019 so I can help a bit. Long preinfusion "slayer" style shots can be done extremely well with levers so don't limit yourself at all. Taste is key, not a ratio or number on your grinders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0umIFdEgU8

>>17482005
So that's where these things are sold! Thanks, Anon.

>>17482075
Will do, thank you - interesting style too, the 'slayer' thing. I hope to have some extra time this weekend to try some more shots, so I'll get back into the general in the next day or so, hopefully, to let you know

Are the coffee beans from IKEA any good?

>>17482132
Not as good as Aldis breakfast blend (the one with the rooster on it)

Is there a real measurable difference between flat burrs and conicals? Or should I just get whatever grinder I like best? The way I understand it conicals create more variation in grind size which creates more "body"? And flat burrs provide more clarity? Sounds like a retarded mem

AEROPRESS GANG

>>17482218
>doing some research into the aeropress, because it's a nifty thing
>not a fan of plastic for this kinda stuff at all
>look for alternatives
>literally the only thing I find is some thread on a shithole website where the guy merely suggesting that he is looking for a non-plastic alternative gets dogpiled on for being a "luddite alarmist"
Why is the internet so full of subhumans, and why do they aggregate on not-further-specified social media websites so much?

>>17482214
they are applied a bit differently due to heat and speed etc. the variation thing is generally true, but there are high end conical ones as well so I'm not sure if you can really tell just by that.

>>17482214
I think hoffman and a couple other people made videos on this.

>>17482233
https://www.artisansmith.com.au/collections/brewing/products/artisan-copper-press
https://www.artisansmith.com.au/collections/brewing/products/artisan-stainless-steel-press-kit
>>17482120
Nothing wrong with an extended preinfusion or "bloom" on a light roast coffee. Grind fine, slow flow. Don't limit your options. Your time and weight are there for repeatability. Great news is you now get to drink a bunch of espresso and figure this shit out a little bit. Drink every shot, good or bad.

>>17482292
Holy shit, how did you find this? Is my search engine that poorly optimized?

>>17482292
>Great news is you now get to drink a bunch of espresso and figure this shit out a little bit. Drink every shot, good or bad.
Thanks anon, I'll keep trying. Guess I'll be drinking too much espresso soon

>>17481584
really should say "chance to" infront of all of these. the way its written makes it sound like you will experience all of these things when if fact you could experience almost none of them.

>>17481605
>I have a flair pro 2
he actually bought the meme

>>17482218
clean your equipment

>>17482350
don't. always keep a layer of dirt in your aeropress. it will protect your penis, unless you want it to invert that is

>>17482218
ew

>>17482214
They produce different grind profiles which affect the brew, but one isn't necessarily better than the other. Case in point, coffee autists tend to swear by flats but the niche is pretty much universally considered one of the best grinders on the market for home use and it's got conicals.

>>17482591
weird way to not answer the question and insert your conical inferiority complex

Just bought a Niche Zero. What do I think of it?

>>17482659
You think it's overpriced

Coffee is about the bean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrbG1WKiGuE

Should I get a moka pot? I have been using an Aeropress since 2017 and while it makes a decent cup of coffee (I'm a pleb and okay with pleb things) I have enough money to think about upgrading my coffee game now

>>17482924
what grinder do you have?

>>17482942
I have a pleb hand-turned grinder, told ya I'm a pleb
Most of the time I get lazy and just buy ground coffee

>>17482946
there are good manual grinders out there. now that you have some money, get one of those and start buying from local roasters

>>17482957
but what has that got to do with a moka pot

>>17481740
>unicornmills
bought one.
fell off counter and broke.
no longer usable less than a year in.

>>17482962
nothing that guy is a fag.
get a moka pot if you want a complex brewing method that can be very hard to get exactly the way you want it, buy a french press if you just want coffee and dont care about how you brew it.

>>17482292
>artisansmith
is rok a meme?

>>17483035
>buy a french press

>>17482137
I'm a third worlder fag so that doesn't exist here.

>>17483078
>cold brew fag thinks his opinion on anything matters at all

>>17481880
It's not the worst. The problem with those big jars is the shit goes stale long before you can sue it all. That's why I prefer those $1 6 packs of Taster's Choice; plus easier to pack

>>17483171
>cold brew

>>17483078
why you drink from a wide mouth?

>>17483182
easier to clean
my hand still needs soap to fit in them.
i use the quart size
and only 2 jars

>>17483191
fucking bs. how is that jar easier to clean than a regular mugg? you do it because you like the idea of it being just jars, that's fine but don't pretend it's some fucking genius well thought out process

>>17483280
>a regular mug
that wasn't the question.
I assumed the question was "why wide mouth compared to standard."
>wide mouth vs mug
I like having a lid.

>>17482233
Good question
>>17482350
No
>>17482578
No u

Idiot here
I've avoided drinking coffee most of my life because I have the taste of a child but I've been forcing myself to try it more recently. Why does this stuff just taste like hot water with a bitter aftertaste. I've tried a few different kinds and they all taste the same.
I'm not doing any fancy coffee, just using my parenrs' keurig (I hate these things but it's all I have right now)
Are there any kinds that taste more like the "coffee flavor" that's in cakes and stuff? I like that but this straight up tastes like nothing. I'm not putting much creamer or sugar in it right now, but it still tastes the same to me.

>>17483321
why do you want to like it?

>>17483324
To help me stay awake, and I guess I feel childish when the only hot drink I enjoy is hot chocolate

>>17483324
How did you fall for that ancient pasta

>>17483327
coffee is not a substitute for sleep.

>>17483342
I can participate in a thought exercise if I choose you nazi.

Espresso was a mistake

>>17483356
*expresso

I recently got promoted with a huge bump in pay to go along with it. What's a good espresso machine + espresso grinder for a beginner? Preferably in the $1000-3000 range but cap at no more than $5000 total for everything.

>>17483370

>>17483370

>>17483299
fair enough, my mistake

I wonder if the redclix upgrade is even needed with the comandante c40 mk4

>>17483470
there was no change to the burr or setting afaik. if you're doing espresso or moka it might be worth it but unlikely with coarser grinds

>>17483498
Well I already ordered it for espresso together with the upgrade kit. Just weird they don't already include it with the basic product.

Absolutely lost it tonight in the kitchen. Yelling, screaming, slamming stuff. In a pitch of fury, I grabbed my Flair Classic by the lever and hurled it into the adjacent wall. *SLAM*.
My wall has an enormous hole with a small 'F' in the middle.
But my Flair Classic literally is fine. Works perfect. Arguably, even better.
Some people invest in firearms, and that's cool. But after seeing the devastation tonight caused by my Flair Classic, I realized how much money could be saved by using the Flair Classic as my primary choice of home protection. Imagine a one-on-one fight. You have... I don't know... a knife, let's say -- but your opponent has a Flair Classic, and he's about to hurl it at you. You better freaking watch out -- or catch that wrath of Flair.
Anyways, things are going fine. I just know more now than I did when I woke up this morning.

>>17483503
I wouldn't like to be counting over 50 clicks so it would have to be optional to use it anyway. I don't know if most users buys it or not. it's definitely a flaw

>>17483527
>paper-walled shithole penetrated by chinesium goy suppressor.

>>17483434
Not espresso but already have one and its based.

>>17483527
Quit stealing shit off facebook moron.

>>17481644
Do you work for Breville?

>>17482312
They make an aftermarket showerhead for moccamasters. First time I heard about them, then I was poking around the site after linking it to someone here a few months ago.
>>17483008
So if you hadn't chosen to break it it would be fine?

>>17483658
I'd get that ridiculous metal one if it wasn't over $300.
The wood ones are best.

>>17483582
Hell yeah! Just buy coffee then

>>17483689
$140 usd for the stainless kit isn't all that bad. No clue on shipping. Report back if you ever order one.

>>17481544
I want to get a good espresso machine. what metrics should I look for?

also planning to buy this to go with it, rate
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AR7SY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

this is the best coffee I've had. why are other coffees so much worse?

https://www.humboldtcoffee.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RRM2021

>>17483900
>Roaster's Reserve MEXICO
>Ejidos San Fernando
If it's anything like some of the chiapas I've had it requires a blend and dark roast. That's a bad thing.

>>17483943
I prefer light roasts, and I think I remember this one having medium roast on the packaging(dont live in humboldt anymore), and I prefer this to all the light roasts I;ve had. Idk anything about blends, though

I'm hoping someone has already tried it so they can compare it to other coffees for me, since I keep just ending up with shit coffee trying to find something I like, vs $70-80 for 5 lbs of the above delivered, which is pretty expensive imo

are there any espresso machines for under $500 that you would deem adequate?

>>17483971
Tuxtla Gutierrez is very near Chiapas.
I didn't personally roast it and I did not enjoy it light roasted. I prefer south american coffees.
If you live in the US:
https://www.coffeebeancorral.com/search.aspx?keyword=Chiapas
roast it yourself for best coffee.

>>17483992
I'm tempted, I;ve never roasted coffee before, though

>>17484022
It is not difficult there are many free starter guides online. You don't need to buy any equipment if you do not want to.

>>17483979
Try the nomad for the lulz

>>17483979
https://espressoaf.com/recommendations/entry-machines.html
Do your homework.

Anyone owns the old design timemore scale, how is it?

>>17484163
thanks
this is how I imagine all you espresso freaks.
https://youtu.be/GoWtS_UGwz0https://youtu.be/GoWtS_UGwz0

what is the purpose of a dual boiler?

>>17484316
Temp stability, esp when pulling multiple milk drinks back to back.

>>17484354
so not really necessary for home units.

>>17484366
are you retarded?

>>17484404
are you running a cafe out of your home?

>>17484413
do you seriously not see the utility in not having to temp surf? or are you really that lonely

why is a bike the first thing they want to sell me?
https://shop.rocket-espresso.com/
>>17484424
I don't have an espresso machine and thing you are all retarded for paying 6k for hot bean water makers.

>noooo you can't just spend money on stuff you enjoy you have to be broke and retarded like mee

>>17484424
Post your machine.

>My hobby is hot bean water, it satisfies me and only me, it can always be improved and will never be perfect, the ever increasing complexity contributes nothing but to the pockets of my neolib overlords.

>>17484475

>>17484475
Based

>>17484453
i don't have an espresso machine, but i have two aeropresses so I can make enough coffee for guests. you don't have to own a double boiler to be able to see the appeal of it and not sperg out.

>>17484536
So you've got absolutely zero experience with single or double boilers, espresso, and temp surfing but feel like chiming in? Strange. Keep sipping that plastic and keep to yourself.

>>17484536
>sperg out.

>>17484536
fresh pasta?

>>17483503
$$
What's weird to me is they're still using so much plastic. Competitors' premium grinders have ditched the plastic elements and their burr designs have caught up.

>>17484599
Its like watching people who ride the bus have strongly held opinions on cars they couldn't afford to insure.

>>17484574
i make aeropresso, not sure why having an opinion makes you so upset though hehe :)

>>17484742
to good to be true.
oh well.

>>17484574
got more experience than you. only cafes have double boilers? fucking retard lmao
>>17484719
fuck off dude

I really hope he makes a small run of these so I can really rile up the riff raff.
https://youtu.be/2kwkHnuwNkI

>>17484972
what, do you run a cafe or something?

>>17484975
too much autism to run a cafe I'm sure.
got that double boiler for 8oz of brown water.

>>17481886
Based aeropress
>>17482924
Keep the AeroPress, buy better coffee
>>17484536
That's enough for 8
>>17484719
Based

>>17484719
recipe?

Just made a V60 with my Niche Zero. What did I think of it?

>>17484884
Look. I know im responding to a mongoloid, i know. But i have to tell you. You dont know anything about coffee. Read all the faggot books you want. Go to coffee fest and turn your nose up to the italians and masturbate over synesso. Go pay thousands of dollars to be a q gradee and look at coffee under a uv light. Go for it. I dont even care. Just remember kid, i was stripping trucks of supremos while you were in fucking poopy pants diapers. I remeber when Aldi's delivered coffee in a fucking rolls royce. Your playing yourself, kid.

I have over 100 specialy offerings from 97 different countries of origin in contianer quanities AT ALL TIMES. Wow you say mr. Coffee broker bean KANG you just doxed yourself on the internet, but i dont care. Fuck you. Ive been doing this so long i was playing golf with the nca guys before it blew up ive been a member and disbarred by the scaa more times then your punk ass has even been on there mailing list. Ive FUCKED my way through more coffee roasters secrateries than you even have in your rolodex. I have a warehouse filled with over $1,000,000 of espresso equipment laying DEFUNCT.

People like you, kid, people like your are marks, customers, losers. Go ahead, drink your shitty overextracted coffee; freeze your green coffee; hook up pid machines to your little dual boilers, buy a 1lb freshroast. But to me kid, youll always be a loser and a faggot

>>17485860
> HIS LARP LEVELS ARE OVER 9000!
> THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!

>>17482756
how long do you have before that melts?

>>17483370
>>17483418
>>17483434
At that spend, anything you want.. as long as you can make like pic related. Otherwise the money is wasted

>>17486112
Weak

>>17485060
People like you, kid, people like your are marks, customers, losers. Go ahead, drink your shitty overextracted coffee; freeze your green coffee; hook up pid machines to your little home, use espresso machines, buy a 1 bag Lorring. But to me kid, youll always be a loser and a faggot

>Work buffet for meeting
>Bland food at volume
>Coffee made to order by a barista
Feels like it's designed to make you eat fast and get you back to work
LOL

>>17486315
>>Coffee made to order by a barista
Is he pressing it out with an aeropress? Two of those should be able to do a work buffet meeting no problem.

Areopress?

What's /ck/s take? I am going to buy one no matter what because the 16oz with travel mug will only cost me 15 bucks at Bed Bath and Beyond (and I'll get aids going there)

Normally I french press.

>>17481605
He chose bike pumps poorly.

>>17483527
Did you lose a vidya game?

>>17486430
It's good

>>17486430
It's bad

>>17486295
bait

>>17486825
newfag

>>17486315
>>17486336
It's a two-head espresso machine with a steam wand. Not sure why you would think that it uses an aeropress.

Just copped this Cuisinart https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KIG4YNO/
am i a massive retard who has made a huge mistake?

what kind of grinder should i get to go along with this?

>boi ki gay no

>>17481544
I picked my French Press up by the plunger, it plopped out and the glass disintegrated into a million fucking pieces on my kitchen floor.
I am genuinely upset.

>>17486295
>quality of flour
>quality of oven
>quality of baker
spend more.

all autist know is make v60, eat hot chip, be bisexual and lie

>>17487198
https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCG-20BKN-Coffee-Grinder-Black/dp/B00004S9CY

>>17487426
ducktape the screen to the top of a jar after you put the hotwater and ground beans in.
pour through the screen into another jar.

Only a numb nigger buys a coffee machine, when you can get an entire machine for free from Gevalia... Then just cancel the subscription, oh and a free sample of elite coffee.

>>17487619
qrd? i'm a hoarder

>>17487601
>https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCG-20BKN-Coffee-Grinder-Black/dp/B00004S9CY
i was thinking of getting something higher end, but would it be overkill for the simple coffee maker i got?

>>17487668
https://www.nichecoffee.co.uk/products/niche-zero

>>17487677
>https://www.nichecoffee.co.uk/products/niche-zero
i was thinking of getting something lower end, but would i be missing out if i got a ~$200 conical electric grinder?

>>17487704
Compared to the nz, yes a baratza encore is "missing out"

>>17487705
what do i get for the extra $300-$400?

>>17487619
>sample of elite coffee
>the company sells coffee directly to consumers via home delivery and through big box stores such as Wal-Mart.
LOL. Get some elite kraft dinner while you're at it. Next isle over.
>>17487704
Go with budget flats and swap in a new burr set next year.
https://youtu.be/1EeJ4qHgSuA

>>17487709
Fwiw the vario has ditting internals and the sette is an etzinger design. When baratza has a half decent product, they had nothing to do with the design. Not sure who designed the encore though.

>>17487710
i don't even know what a burr is lole

>>17487709
nothing bro, don't spend over $100 on a grinder

>>17487727
These things. Electric grinders are basically a body, a motor, and a set of burrs. You want a motor with enough torque to grind lighter beans without stalling and dying and a well aligned, precise set of burrs.
http://www.espressotool.com/?idx=3
Pic related, but on the hand grinder side. If the burrs are shit, the grinder is likely going to be shit and a pain to use. If you're not going to be grinding massive amounts, or doing super light roast espresso this is getting talked about alot.
https://www.option-o.com/shop/lagom-mini

>>17482132
I tried the IKEA coffees in their refillable section. Is it supposed to just taste as bitter and watery?

>>17487619
Do they even do that anymore? I got one 20 years ago.

>>17481544
Cute Ashley

Sorry, I only drink elite coffee.

>>17487751
>https://www.option-o.com/shop/lagom-mini
>pre-order for early June batch

>>17488635
>tfw I paid for my key in october

I just drank 24oz of instant coffee mixed with 14oz of Sweetend condensed milk. I can feel my heart struggling and it feels so good

>>17488694
>posting gay lazy fatasses in our comfy coffee thread
do better

>>17487101
Based Aeropress

>>17488591
Did they really need a power button and a brew button?

>>17488917
>Water Reservoir
>Reservoir lid

Do you anons ever quit coffee for a while if it is boring you? I noticed all week I'm just drinking it to drink it, not enjoying it at all. Tastes bland and meh, you know what I mean? Thinking of quitting for a few weeks

>>17488694
>>17488756
Why does Nick have a podcast with these two worthless unfunny dipshits? I hope they don't split the podcast cash 33.3/33.3/33.3 because Nick deserves 99pc of it

Thoughts on the Nanopresso? Are there any good competitors in the same price range or is it the best you can get?

>>17489449
doesn't make real espresso. hoffmann has a video on it.

>>17489461
I don't care, I just want alright coffee at a cheap price and an easy to manage machine

i really like my aeropress but all it gets here is memed on.

>>17489468
I couldn't imagine a less easy to manage machine than one you have to pump for 1m30 with your thumbs.

>>17489049
>Tastes bland and meh
start making bad coffee. you will be motivated to make good coffee and you will enjoy the fruits of you labor.

>>17489626
why do you care what internet schizos think of the way you make coffee. you are still doing better than most people who pay for dogshit coffee multiple times a day.

>>17489764
mostly because it means if I want any interesting tidbits about its use or recipes or anything I need to get them elsewhere.

>>17489060
Adam is the glue. Nick writes the bits, but Adam just bumbles his way into funny shit naturally. Any one of the three is miles ahead of most podcasters.

>>17489049
diminishing returns. this is why i only drink 1 short cup of light roast per day. if i drink any more i get sick of it

>>17489772
there are definitely other aerofags in here.

>No matter how much coffee I drink I never get withdrawals if I stop, or if I skip, and for no matter how long I stop or skip - no headaches or anything
>On the other hand, caffeine does literally nothing to me and does not wake me up, give any energy, etc.
I always figured my metabolism was just fucked.

>>17489985
No, you're just normal and not blinded by placebo like 90% of our retarded sheep population is

guys im not trolling or anything i just wanna take a poll, of sorts
are your teeth yellow?

>>17489864
there are but talking about it without irony or shitposting is next to nonexistent.
still looking for a good americano recipe. something like the inventor's recipe but with numbers for ease of replication
I'm using a variation on hoffman's recipe and it's pretty good and easily replicated for a newbie like me. the variation is just that I do it inverted and stir for 10s after adding all the water.

>>17490222
>I must know how long to wait before cumming in my hot brown water.
>My plastic cocksocket relies on a proper recipe.

see?

>>17490156
a little but it's from my parents pushing antibiotics on me as a child. I don't drink coffee or tea. I aeropress it into the drain every morning then drink a glass of water and go on my run.

>>17490235
>I take my $30 toy very seriously.
you sound like a homeless schitzo.

and that comes from a homed schitzo

weird criticism to levy when a v60 is equally cheap but ok.

>>17490258
>v60
neolib
the italians from brazil's coffee is good light roast.
i'll try darker later.

>>17490156
No but I spend too much on nip toothpaste.

>>17490222
>the variation is just that I do it inverted and stir for 10s after adding all the water.
You're a fucking innovator. Going to need you to film that and get it on youtube asap.

>>17490267
>nip toothpaste
go on

>>17490412
how about you innovate on sucking my dick? swirl it to get a good bed on it too.

>>17490412
How's the market on mocking this retarded shit?

>>17490486
What's retarded about the mentioned variables? they vary from recipe to recipe and noticeably affect extraction.

>>17490470
Apagard. I use alternate between premio and royal since I'm too cheap to use $40/tube shit every day. Only difference is the amount of the main active ingredient.
https://www.amazon.com/Apagard-Tooth-Polish-toothpaste-Direct/dp/B000FQV1U2

>>17490502
Never heard of this shit but it's on my radar now. Thanks.

>>17490492
>noticeably affect extraction
it's pushing hot water through powdered roasted seeds.
>the mentioned variables
complete autism.

>>17490156
>yellow
no
>not white
yes

but because i was a tea fag for most of my life and im half bonger i didnt brush my teeth much. but then i quit tea for a year (i still love and miss tea but i had to quit for health reasons) and that combined with spending a lot of money on dental work my teeth are much better. i dont think teeth are supposed to be glowing white like you see some people get. but i dont think my teeth look abnormal from a color perspective.

>>17490548
yeah you're a /ck/ poster alright. do you even cook?

>>17490555
I'm not a woman.

>>17490562
Gotem.

>>17486315
How many cups do you drink a day?

>>17490650
too many... trying to get down

I'm an appreciator of simplicity, i already regularly make turkish coffee, is there any other methods i need be aware of?

>>17490796
no

>>17490796
Mokapot coffee with frenchpress frothed milk. You cannot drink black Turkish with milk

>>17490857
>Turkish with milk
do it every day.

>>17490870
Sounds yucky

>>17490502
>>17490514
If you're not a burger, consider Sensodyne with Novamin. Novamin is a compound similar to the nano mHAP of the nip toothpaste.
For whatever reason, Sensodyne with Novamin isn't officially available in the US.

>>17490976
>Contains fluoride
Yeah no thanks.

>>17490988
As long as you're not swallowing your toothpaste like a retard, it's fine.

>>17490998
Buy into the fda approved cuckoldry. I'm already getting pumped full of it in the water, I don't need to be smearing it into my gumline. There's a reason you dose lsd under the tongue.

>>17481605
Feels. I'm sick of drinking shitty under/over extracted shots. When Will I finally dial this fucker in.

>>17489060
I watch mostly for adam. Nick is the sprinkles and Stav is just a laughtrack.

Just woke up and I'm gonna pull some shots. What will I think of them?

>>17491068

you played yourself buying into the hype

>>17482001
>Just try everything until it works!
Why do buybois even try to compete with Aeropress gang?

Weak bait

>>17490551
>quit tea for health reasons
>still drinks covfefe
Story time?

>>17491609
not good enough.
need another boiler of temp stabilization.
a more precise scale.
a better grinder.
gut and replace all parts with slightly newer "better" more expensive espresso parts.
all for the shitty beans cost co. roasted 2 months ago. they are fine.

Sorry for newfagging but I've been doing some research and I still haven't gotten to a conclusion.
Please recommend the best espresso machine under about 300, OR under 500 if there is a significant increase in quality.
I don't care for milk, just straight espresso shots, so doesn't matter if the frother isn't great. Also, not looking for second-hand.

>>17491900
nomad

>>17491903
Preferably electric, but I'll keep that one in mind.

>>17491938
Did you watch the James Hoffman video for espresso on a budget? He's got a fully electric setup

>>17491957
hoffman's solution is to go second hand though

>>17491900
lurk moar:
>>17484163

>>17491900

What's your location, US, UK, AUS?

And what's your current situation regarding espresso? You get them at the coffee shop or you're mostly a drip enjoyer? I see so many people jumping head first into espresso without even liking it because it's regarded as the pinacle of coffee...

>>17492010
>the pinacle of coffee...
>>17483078

>>17492010
I love espresso but it wasn't until I got a whole setup that I realized I hate the process of making espresso.

>>17492010
>I see so many people jumping head first into espresso without even liking it because it's regarded as the pinacle of coffee...
I feel that

>>17491969
If you want an electric machine worth a fuck around/under $300 you have you be willing to consider secondhand. If you're completely against it and don't care about spending the extra you can just buy the gaggia machine new and it's still relatively cheap, just not as cheap as if you take advantage of someone getting rid of theirs.

>>17483531
I should have read this before ordering. Fuck. There's no number dial on comandante c40.
Since I ordered the redclix too, I've got a lot of clicks to count AAAA.

>>17491969
what >>17492052 said but you should know espresso machines aren't very complex. they're relatively simple machines and all parts for gaggia classic or silvia are readily available online. if you're on a budget there's really no reason not to buy a used one.

>>17491969
This >>17492062

Keep in mind that one of the most important qualities in a good espresso machine is that it's built to last, which is why the secondhand market is so active in the first place. It's like buying a car, if you can get a brand new car or you can get the same exact model pre-owned for significantly cheaper in roughly the same condition, most people are likely to go for the cheaper option, because if you're concerned that the used one won't work right you're probably not very confident in the quality of the new version to begin with.

For reference I just looked and was able to find a used rancilio Silvia on eBay listed for about $300 at the moment and those go for over $700 new. Granted it's got some superficial wear, but if you're looking in the $300 range you're going to be doing some modding/maintenance anyway if you actually care about the end result even on a new machine.

>>17492057
lol, hope you don't plan on doing espresso as well as press each day

Is there a good all-in-one machine under 1000 or are the grinders always bad/weak?

>>17492248
Is there a specific reason you want/need an all in one? Whether you can find one with a good grinder or not getting both in one unit just needlessly limits your options for grinder features, upgradeability, and repair/replacement of one or the other down the road.

>>17492248
there is no reason what so ever to go all in one

>>17492202
Memes aside it's nice. The clicks are big and chunky so you can't miss them, and you just do a big turn if you need a 12. Yeah well it's a well known grinder so it's no surprise it's not complete trash. I'll wait before I put on the redclix though

Lelit Elizabeth, yay or nay? Looking to upgrade to a small double boiler and it seems like the best machine in the segment.

>>17481856
Not true, the breville dual boiler is one of the most capable home espresso machines you can buy. Breville makes good espresso machines for their price points. If you buy the cheapest model of course its not going to be that great

>>17481624
get a breville dual boiler and smart grinder pro its a much better combo. If you can afford it get a eureka grinder instead of the smart grinder

>>17492691
what a waste of a machine to pair it with the SGP... terrible advice!

Been using a v60 the last few days trying to get it dialed in, seems like my water is meeting next to no resistance and passing through almost instantly, am I right in thinking I need to keep grinding finer at that point?

>>17492856
Does it taste watery? I’ve learned to accept that when making a single serving, the time it takes will just naturally be shorter than if I made 30g of coffee

>>17481856
Breville makes perfectly capable machines for their price points, the issue with them is repairability and overall build quality kinda sucks. They use tons of plastic and build in ways that don't encourage use repairs, so you end up reliant on them to service when issues arise and they work on the mentality of replace, don't repair so you're usually stuck sending in your whole machine for repair if something's wrong even if it's something other manufacturers would allow you to just replace a part on. Basically they're designed for the "it just werkz" crowd who never want to mess with the inside of their machine and are perfectly happy doing warranty replacements every few years if something goes wrong. The iPhone demographic.

Just made a V60. What did I think of it?

>>17492856
Does it taste underextracted? Go finer
Does it taste overreacted? Go coarser
Does it taste good? Don't fuck with it

You can't ask for advice on how to adjust your brew without mentioning how it tasted

>>17492878
Muddy, you want to just use 3 mason jars next time

>>17492891
W-what do I do with the 3rd jar???

>>17492872
yeah pretty watery
>>17492884
Good point, definitely very under extracted, but honestly not the worst thing I've ever tasted, I've been pretty aggressive in going finer already that's why I started getting hesitant. Tomorrow I'll try again even finer, sucks when you only drink one cup a day

I’ve been tasting a bunch of espressos and cortados from local cafes and most of them have been sour as shit. Are these just bad cafes or is this what espresso is supposed to taste like

>>17492917
no one is forcing you to finish your cup. I did three cups in a row when dialing in my grinder, it's easier when you can compare them.
you can also try shortening your brew time if it's still weird after grinding fine enough for it to become bitter. last coffee I got I had to do that with

>>17492900
that ones for puking in after taking a sip of your mason jar coffee

>>17492959
>no one is forcing you to finish your cup.
of course, just a habit of growing up poor, I still can't bring myself to waste anything, even some beans

>>17492629
You only need a double boiler if you're running a cafe

>>17492629
>Spending thousands of dollars on a double boiler
>Literally can make one at home in under one second by putting a bowl on top of a pan
Insanity

Thanks, but I only drink 'spro from triple boilers.

>>17493251
>he doesn't use a quadruple boiler

>>17493176

actual autist

>>17493189

keep drinking your bowl water in mason jars...

How am I supposed to know whether coffee tastes underextracted or overextracted?

>>17493362
under --> sour
over --> bitter

>>17490156
They're not smoker-yellow, but they're not white. That said, I quit soda more than a decade ago and outside of water and clear alcohol, pretty much exclusively drink coffee and tea. A bit of milk here and there. I don't think it's possible to have shiny whites with the amount of coffee/tea I drink, regardless of the fact that I brush regularly

Are there specific places/sites to look for good, second hand espresso machines as has been described in the thread, or is it more or less just ebay/facebook mp?

>>17492248
>under 1000
1000 what?

>>17494144
big

just made an ethiopian flat white, what did i think of it?

>>17494191
you wished it was a thick black instead

range ban all mutts.

>>17494209
>range ban North America, South America, Western Europe, Russia, Australia and New Zealand
Thats a lot of countries anon

>>17493251
in the 3 inches from boiler to basket you can add a heat exchanger.
It'll cost ya.
to some people that "3 inches" is really important tho.

>>17494335
A few extra inches can mean the difference between ecstasy and a boring time

>>17494339
so can a big boiler compensate for 2 smaller boilers?
I'm still not getting the dual boiler for home thing and these redditors can't get their head out of their ass.

>>17494349
Just use your home water heater

New thread >>17494343

I have a cute girlfriend. She bought me a chemex and a Stagg ekg for Christmas. She doesn't drink coffee herself because it gives her headaches but when I make a really good cup she will try it and tell me what she thinks. Does that count?

>>17494351
must be why cucking is popular.

you know the "men" that make the grinder comparison videos pay bulls to take care of their anime pillows.
with no shame.

>>17494354
close enough.

>>17493348
plebs brewing in glass.