/ck/ - Food & Cooking

shut up queer

>>17466399
>anything over $100 is overkill
>anything below $99.98 is cheap disposable garbage for poorfags who are poor because they make decisions like buying shitty garbage that has to constantly be replaced when it breaks
This is too much pressure for me :(

>>17466418
the duality of man

seriously drinktrade y/n
the most fresh stuff I can get outside of ordering online is fucking Peet's

>>17466424
OP didn’t even specify the allocation of the $100.
Is it purely earmarked for a grinder, as his pic might imply?
Or is it saying any coffee implement over $100 is overkill?
Or does he mean it in a more broadly philosophical sense? Like ALL things over $100 are overkill? Every item I own which cost >$100 is just an overpriced meme that I fell for? Is my only option for redemption just giving away my possessions and home, and living naked in a cave?

Fuck you, OP. I wanted a coffee grinder; it’s too early in the day for an existential crisis, and I’m gonna go grab coffee from 7-11 so I don’t have to think about it.

Hey /ctg/, headed to 7-11. Anyone need anything?

>>17466418
>>17466424
>>17466488
>>17466492
only took a handful of replies to make this the gayest thread of all time

>>17466488
Just find a roaster that you like and order their coffee online instead of paying for a gay ass subscription that will send you cheap shit

>>17466492
>Every item I own which cost >$100 is just an overpriced meme that I fell for?
Yes

>>17466524
have your morning cuppa champ your pussy is leaking

>>17466532
>Just find a roaster that you like
that is what I'm trying to do yes, what kinda big brained post is this

>>17466524
>only took a handful of replies to make this the gayest thread of all time
And it only took one reply for you to out yourself as a newfag.
Welcome to 4chan. All threads are gay by default, and can always be made more gay while staying on topic.
Pic related.
Drinking it right now.

I fucking hate the direction /ctg/ is headed. This place was fun and had great inspiration for coffee, just as little as 3 months ago. What happened? The /ctg/ comments are sarcastic at best and cancer at worst. Any efforts at actual discussion immediately just turn into shitposting and memeing, generally pulled off by only 2-3 dedicated schizoid trolls. Genuine questions for help are met with shill comments “Just buy this thing like I have because it’s all I could afford, then you’ll have better coffee like mine” etc. Are there mods that come into this thread? I find it hard to believe this thread is only run by 3-5 people that constantly shit up the place and for no good reason other than “le epic lulz”. Is there any way to request that off topic retarded comments and trolls could be banned or just deleted?

>>17466709
>tfw I joined three months ago
seriously though even I can tell it's getting worse every thread

>dark roast arabica robusta blend
feels comfy

>>17466719
don't worry, anon
there's a long way to go before we hit rock bottom

>>17466575
Then buy the shitty subscription service if you want it that badly and fuck off and quit bothering us about it

>>17466709
It's incredible to me that NEETs whose sole source for information and "world experience" is 4chan.org would mount this type of criticism - I have a PhD in Philosophy and did study Frankfurt School thinkers, I don't like them that much, but I know them. The mere fact that you think that there exists the "Reddit VS based/pol" epistemic dichotomy should alarm you to the fact that you are a mentally ill retard - you are so fucking ignorant and retarded that you don't even have a concept of what understanding would mean.

Your entire world-view is informed by tweet-sized posts on 4chan and .jpg infographics, that is literally all you know yet everyone who disagrees with you is the "brainwashed ZOGbot". It's incredible, stuff of ancient comedies really.

I will gas you American, don't worry, you and your family will be removed.

>>17466719
Its been a steady descent downwards. You got morons buying $35 kingrinders with STEEL BURRS and shilling them before they ship. You've got idiots clinging to their $80 chinese heirloom grinders and trying to explain why anything more expensive is a waste. We used to have nice polite discussions about rehydrating beans before roasting.

>>17466744
if basic questions about where to look for other beans are bothering you specifically then I'm really glad for it actually

>>17466764
Its worth to try, not worth it to keep ordering. Use it for a few weeks/months, when you find something good write it down and order direct. Apparently they're bitches about canceling so be aware.

>>17466764
If you need the concept of buying from a local roaster or just searching the internet for a good roaster that ships anywhere explained to you then you should probably be in some kind of care facility

>>17466709
Sorry I don't post as much anymore.

>>17466709
>Genuine questions for help are met with shill comments
>shill
Holy shit that word has lost all meaning on this board because people like you who think it applies to any sort of recommendation of any product other than whatever you personally think is the ideal “correct” one.
>“Just buy this thing like I have because it’s all I could afford, then you’ll have better coffee like mine”
Whether a purchase decision was based on low-budget constraint or not, I’d rather hear something based on actual experience/use/ownership of whatever. Because otherwise, I’m not hearing an actual opinion, I’m hearing someone regurgitate someone else’s opinion/review and doing a worse job of it.

>>17466894

>>17466907
>The one with the rooster on it

>>17466925
>>17466732
It just keeps getting funnier honestly.

AEROPRESS GANG

>>17466709
This is what happens when people respond to the socially maladjusted low effort trolling posts instead of ignoring them.

>>17466960
this website would fail to exist if everyone played by your rules

>>17466960

>>17466925
>mit dem hahn drauf?

Last bit of two single origins mixed together for a shot. Ethiopian + Guatemalan, ground with 1ZPresso JE Pro and pulled with a flair. Diluted w/~4 times its volume of hot water. I used to post webms of the bottomless portafilter during extraction, if there's interest in that I can start doing it again.

>>17467032
>pulled with a flair
kek

>>17467032
coffees that went into this btw

>>17467035
don’t encourage him

Just made a juicy anaerobic natural bourbon from Colombia. What did I think of it?

>>17467032
I can't be bothered to get decent lighting/camera focus so I stopped.

>>17466709
The entire place is turning to shit. The idiots shilling in /pol/ spill their shower of shit everywhere.
Also since when there isnt alcoholism threads? All Ive been seeing is how cool is to drink.
Whole place is tripleparentesis fucked tripleparentesis.

>>17467049
I should get a standalone lighting setup or something. I can get good focus but the lighting is consistently an issue and the cup height obscuring the portafilter can make it hard to get any worthwhile video. Posting the shots here helped me identify channeling and other problems with my extraction. Stopped doing it because it was just a bit much to set up the camera and get all the lighting right and then convert the interesting bit into a webm. It does look really pretty when you get it right though.

>>17467065
Its not like I've actually tried lol. Thats my phones front camera leaning on another portafilter. I probably have a few old videos on my phone from the old og flair signature+sep I could webm but its really not worth it.

>>17466399
Anything that isn't a coffee pot or french press is overkill. It's just coffee.

>>17467044
>What did I think of it?
I think it would be extremely painful for you.

>>17467094
See.
>>17466407

>>17467094
You're a big guy

>love comfy cafe vibes
>expensive enough to make it a bad choice to go daily
how do I reconcile this

>>17466418
>too much pressure
for that price you'd be lucky to hit 9 bar

>>17467178
Buy yourself a nice chair and put this on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr8zt67HreM
>inb4 any chair over $100 is overkill.

Just tried this. What did I think about it?

>>17467761
Not enough specialty robusta in the blend

1 croissant, 2 manual brew v60, 2 flat white and forgot my wallet fml

Based

>>17468002
How did you pay for it? With ass?

>>17466709
>2-3 dedicated schizoid trolls.

>>17466754
>plebbit spacing
>retarded estrogenic diatribe
not reading your gay blog turbofaggot
>>17466709
based

>>17467761
>What did I think about it?
Why are you asking us? Don't you know your own opinions? This is a stupid meme.

But I'm surprised that Eight O'Clock Coffee has outlasted the A&P supermarket chain.

>>17467761
Not as good as Aldin coffee (the one with the rooster on it)

Everyone who spends more than $40 on a kingrinder k3 is a schizoshill who works for cuckmandante.

>>17468345
holy memespeak, anon
you kiss your mother with that mouth??

>>17468345
This except they actually work for the Chinese government

this tastes as advertised
in a bad way

>>17468383
>rootbeer
Yeah no. Rootbeer has an herbal, medicinal flavor. I always avoid coffees with herbal and woody flavors. Most people consider them flaws. You got tricked because they hid it in the term "rootbeer". Now you know.

>>17468383
>brooklyn
>tastes like shit
what did u expect u fucking retard

>>17468525
>>17468383
Sey is out of brooklyn. One of the most based roasters there is. Pretty sure they have a custom tweaked 20k+ titus nautilus in their cafe.

>>17466672
w2c miku

>>17468574
>"they have expensive equipment so it MUST be good!"
braindead

>>17466672
nice mug. have been meaning to get a double walled glass one like that for awhile

I need a stovetop gooseneck kettle. It has to be stovetop. Which one do I get?

>>17468701
Get an electric kettle

>>17468701
Hario V60 "Buono" Copper Drip Kettle

>>17468610
> Pretty sure
Haven't been to their cafe. Don't live anywhere near NY. Just had a few of their coffees. Low volume shop that only does light roast filter coffee. Should be right up your alley faggot.
https://www.seycoffee.com/collections/archived-coffees/products/wate-gogugu
https://www.seycoffee.com/collections/archived-coffees/products/el-progresso
https://www.seycoffee.com/collections/archived-coffees/products/felipe-luzon

What's the most autisticly efficient way to rapidly lower temperature of coffee without dilution?

Would it work to set up some sort of funnel feeding into a copper tubing configuration to act as a heatsink? Would the acidity of the coffee interfere with the copper and impact the taste?

I want cold coffee without it becoming watery from ice cubes quickly melting.

>>17466672
Irredeemably based.

>>17468847
>Pretty sure
>mentions equipment anyway as evidence of quality
lmao save your links retard... nobody cares

>>17468874
just put some thermal paste in your 'ero 'ress

>>17468874
Just do the Japanese method where you brew highly concentrated pourover onto ice cubes

>>17468874
Thin metal carafe plunged into salt and ice?
>>17468892
Classic poorposters.

>>17468874
Leave a clad-bottomed pot in the freezer the night before.
>>17468949
Could crack the glass.

>>17468949
classic overcompensators

>>17468951
>Thin metal carafe
>Could crack the glass
>>17468970
Yeah buddy. Lets hear some more about that timemore.

>>17468975
I hear that the Timemore has machined stainless steel burrs. Can anyone confirm?

>>17468975
Okay I had a brain cramp apparently.

>>17468993
With new prebreaking teeth™

>>17468970
>i'm gonna overcoooooompensate

>I just shake dust out of the store grinders. Anything else is overkill.

>>17468874
Could you run it through a Graham condenser with a cold water bath to rapidly cool it?

Are 1zpressos the best manual grinders?

>>17469297
what is with you fags and manual grinders?
motors exist to make life easier what are you amish?

>>17469320
You have to spend more than $100 to get an electric grinder

>>17469320
less expensive than electric, easier to clean, perfectly fine for single dosing, more compact.

>>17469339
lmao if you're a soyshit retard you do

>>17469320
I have both, I travel for work a lot.

>>17469352
>imagine taking your coffee grinder on trips with you

>>17469339
That's not very much money for what is essentially a hobby.

>>17469377
Don't talk to me or my wife's coffee grinder ever again

>>17469377
Imagine drinking shitty hotel coffee

>>17469384
Its a tool you'll use most days for years. I'd advise against buying cheap knives too.

>>17469414
when I go to a new place, I try to take in the local experience:
trying new food, new smells, new tastes, new beers, and yes…new coffee

how the fuck boring are you that you bring your own coffee from home when your traveling? I bet your friends are sick of listening to you talk about how good your fucking coffee is

>>17469445
>friends
what a strange assumption

>>17469445
So he can just grab a bag of fresh beans locally whereever he lands? Are you retarded? Do you not have a cigar cutter in your luggage?

>>17469297
I wouldn't say they're the best, but I think they're in the sweet spot regarding price and performance. You can get better grinders, but you're dealing with diminishing returns.
t. owns a jx pro

>>17469445
Where do you think I get the coffee, genius? I travel, if you reading comprehension was above that of a sped, for work. Typically to the same places. I have to while I'm there, work. So I have coffee in my hotel room, and on the mornings where I'm not starting too early to get coffee elsewhere, I try cafes, and buy beans from the ones I like who roast their own. Different story when I travel for pleasure. But by all means go fuck yourself

>koff koff
>hey man you wanna hit my bripe?
>whoa man chill out it's only a bripe
>it's derived from hemp so it's legal here
>calm the fuck down narc, you wanna hit this shit or not?
>you some kinda pussy bro? who the fuck hasn't briped at least once before?
>ugh whatever dude you're over extracting my mellow

>>17466399
Good thing I haven't paid $100 for a cup of coffee ever.
Need new grinder blades though.
Maybe a manual espresso maker like FLAIR or ROK...

post beds
>but of Maxwell House™ grounds, good till every last drop!

>>17470126
stuck some cold brew in the fridge, mm mm mmmm

good night angry caffeine addict general

>>17470121
Any here uses non-Italino techniques for coffee brewing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geRax4il6X8

>yeah just put the hole on the side senpai

>>17470121
Cheers

>>17467761
damn good considering it's one of the cheapest beans at walmart

>>17470352
I prefer the ALDI brand whole roasted coffee beans

>>17470565
i'll give it a try, is it decent price? i noticed the really cheap stuff at ALDI can be terrible but their more expensive stuff can be a really great deal considering the quality you are getting, like some of their imported cheeses

>>17470615
It's decent enough for something about half the price of a boutique roaster

>>17469243
Wouldn't that heat shock be too much for the glass?

I think this could work, though I'd likely scale it down for a single aeropress:

https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Make-a-Kitchen-Sized-Immersion-Chiller-to-R/

>>17469320
>power goes out, now you don't have a coffee grinder
>power comes back on, now the motor burns out
Industrial cucks don't deserve coffee

>>17469297
>>17469320
I use manual grinder and coffee machines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plbsA9x8jmo

>muh manual
Bet ya'll ain't burning coal to cook water

>faggy time general: the queerening
what an absolute gayfest

>>17470736
I just love my bike pumps

>>17468874
Hoffmeme reviewed a thing made for exactly this that seemed to work well

https://youtu.be/qOoUuP_4nF0

You guys ever notice the lack of a ring on Hoffman's finger?
is Our Guy ok?

What's a good cheap adjustable grinder. Ideally sub $60

>>17471589
just go to a fucking headshop and buy something

it's obvious you don't care and neither do we

>>17471629
Hey faggot, I'd like you to strongly consider fucking yourself to death. Now give me a rec based on experience or I'll come to your house and murder your whole family.

>>17471639
well then, I suppose I'd highly recommend the chinkgrinder

they're widely available on amazon from a variety of brands

>>17471664
Do you want me to kill your mother and father you stupid fuck? GIVE ME THE LINK

>>17471671

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Barista Training Program, and I've been involved in numerous grind settings, and I have over 300 confirmed latte arts. I am trained in saturated group heads and I'm the top barista in the entire Caribou Coffee Company. You are nothing to me but just another name scrawled on a cup. I will steam the fuck out of your non-fat microfoam milk with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting the CEO of La Marzocco and your little chinkshit grinder is being traced right now so you better prepare for the coffee, maggot. The coffee that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your sleep. You're fucking awake at 3 in the morning, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can get you hopped up on caffeine in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my portafilter. Not only am I extensively trained pourover, but I have access to the entire coffee bean arsenal of the CECOVASA and I will use it to its full extent to make you the best goddamn cup of coffee you've ever had, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have preheated your brew chamber a little better. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will pour hot coffee all over you and you will drown in it. You got fucking caffeine psychosis, kiddo.

>>17471639
https://www.amazon.com/JavaPresse-Grinder-Conical-Brushed-Stainless/dp/B013R3Q7B2

for the love of god at least get something with steel burrs like the vivaant

REAL
STEEL
BURRS

>>17468874
If you used dry ice (solid CO2) you wouldn't get dilution. That should be easier to get than, say, liquid nitrogen.

>>17466399
anyone got an opinion on an Aeropress? my cat keeps knocking over my glass coffee pots and french presses. she even knocked over my glas basin for my chemex D:

I want something thats retardproof, and I hear the quality on them is pretty good. if you dudes can convince me otherwise or push me in the right direction I'd be appreciative.

>>17471767
Just get a metal french press retard

>>17471769
not that I haven't considered it, but is there any benefit to the steel over the silicone that they're made from?

thanks for the quick reply, senpai.

>>17471759
The CO2 would also dissolve into the coffee making it much more acidic.

>>17471789
>Is there any benefit to drinking aluminum dust over xenoestrogen slurry
Yes. The science is inconclusive on whether aluminum dust causes alzheimers or not but aeropressing is guaranteed to turn you into a fag or tranny. There are some people who like that though. We have many transfolx in /ctg/ who substitute one of their estrogen injections with an aeropress once a day.

>>17471789
Yeah. The steel isn't leeching xenobiotic chemicals that pump you full of estrogen.

>>17466418
>anything below $99.98 is cheap disposable garbage for poorfags who are poor because they make decisions like buying shitty garbage that has to constantly be replaced when it breaks
homeroast.
everything else is flair.

ordered a 65lbs bag of green from "Genuine Origin"
The cheapest one some Brazil stuff.
UNDER $4 PER POUND!
BEATS YOUR $65/lb NESPRESSO!
FAGGOTS!

Just made a V60 what did I think of it

should I get this?
$900

>>17471865
God I miss GCC. Cheap brazilians let me spend more money on various diameter acupuncture needles.

>>17471881
https://www.odysseyespresso.com/argos-lever-espresso-machine

>>17471890
"Brazil Espirito Santo Semi Washed"
$3.49/lb
https://www.genuineorigin.com/brazil-espirito-santo-semi-washed-immigrantes-2021
hope it's good.
can't be as bad as some of the african ones I've had that taste like dirt.

>>17471895
I'll take that as a no.

>>17471932
They require a company name.
"Roasties" is taken.

>>17471963
Coffee Time General obviously.
>>17471932
If its any good I'll buy a few lbs of greens off you this spring.

>>17471984
what is that contraption for?

>>17471990
Cheap little tool for declumping and evening out espresso bed density. I'll let this fgt explain further.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp3GIR9lynE
Apparently needle thickness matters so I'm dropping from .35mm to a mix of .22 and .25mm.
>One way you can set this tool up is to use 0.22mm and 0.25mm needles together. This way you have stiffer needles to more effectively stir and rake the coffee grounds while the thinner needles continue to fluff. This small diameter difference may seem insignificant but 0.25mm is actually 70% stiffer than 0.22mm!

Why does this coffee taste like tequila

>>17472010
a bit in the weeds for me.
isn't there a presser for clumping it into a disk?
51,906 views in 8 months.
guess it's a thing?
you have tiny sifters too as the alternative funny name "technique"?

I use a moka pot and a manual hario ceramic grinder.
Am I too simple?

>>17472046
sounds good.
be sure to switch arms.
you have a fancy fluffer?

>>17472054
I grind using both arms 10g with the left and 10g with the right.

Not sure what a fancy fluffer is

>>17472044
You haven't seen anything yet. Yeah you tamp the bed of coffee into a lightly compacted puck. The needle stirrer just makes sure there's no clumping for water to fight around. NOW they've got a fucking porcupine jig that punctures the coffee bed before tamping to give controlled channels to make sure the water flows evenly. Real esoteric shit. I've just used a sewing needle shoved into a cork for a few years so I decided ~$25 of 3d printed plastic and acupuncture nails wasn't too bad to hop on the tard train. The new new hot shit is to prewet your espresso puck with a spritz of water. Pre-preinfusion.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rW2Eo4luUPc

>>17472067
improve consistency or?

>>17472054
coomer build

>>17472067
all that for an automatic is cheating.
still ringed.

>>17472088
Yep, or thats always the goal. Vs the cork and needle I had I'm noticing a more even fill in on the first few drips of coffee out. Whether or not that matters who fucking knows. You buy a $6000 espresso machine, they don't give you a bottomless portafilter specifically so you don't see uneven flow/sprays and just focus on the taste.

>>17466399
Today I had my coffee with white sugar, coconut milk, and some gel coconut cubes with their syrup mixed in

>>17472115
>a $6000 espresso machine

Isn't that a bit overkill?

>>17472130
>gel coconut cubes with their syrup mixed in
you make that or buy it?
4oz coconut milk, 4oz whole milk, 1tbs whipping cream, all frothed, 3tbs stevia, 6g coco powder, 0.25tsp vanilla, 2 roasted marshmallows.

>>17472144
Probably. La marzocco gs3 manual paddle. S+tier temp stability, s tier build quality, and all the manual control you'd ever need. $7900. Comes with a single spout and a double spouted portafilter. They don't want people who dropped 8k on a machine to see their shitty prep on full display.
https://home.lamarzoccousa.com/gs3-configurator/

>>17472181
>La marzocco gs3
that is a car.
https://youtu.be/rMRLVFPi99E

damascus the pregfag

>>17472235
Over 4x more than the grinder I ordered. Also needs a couple hundred bucks of maintenance and repairs a year. I'll stick with the $500 flair for now.

anyone else feels poor owning a Breville instead of a proper machine, even knowing it makes good coffee?

>>17472296
was looking at that to be my first espresso.
I don't think it matters how fancy the pressure maker is.

>>17472296
if it chooches it chooches

>>17472345
too bad that bicycle one is not for sale.
awful tempting.

>>17472296
You fucked yourself out of preinfusion without a dimmer by being cheap.
https://espressoaf.com/manufacturers/breville/preinfusion.html

>>17472350
pretty interesting since I almost bought the Infuser instead, but then again it's thermoblock is pretty bad.

>>17472176
I bought them, they are in the import aisle of most grocery stores I go to.

>>17472383
Infuser is just a BBE without the grinder. Somewhat modifiable but you're stuck with a stupid 54mm pf and poor quality baskets.
>>17472319
You should read more about vibration and rotary vane pumps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUDEafxPyZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9IZJ5tQFs
Vibration pumps generate heat which means you've got a cooling off period before pulling another shot unless you want to fuck the lifespan on your pump. Rotary pumps are quieter, more consistent, and last way longer. Here's a guide hooking up a rotary pump to a $1600 vibration pump Breville Dual Boiler.
https://espressoaf.com/manufacturers/breville/rotary.html

>>17472430
modifying a BBE/Infuser is simply putting lipstick on a pig, BDB is a different beast tho

>>17468383
cute feet

>>17472477
So where does that put the bambino plus?

afternoon syphon

>>17472566
That would go great with some cloves, cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, and sweetened condensed milk. Maybe a little coconut cream.

>>17472642
no, no it wouldn’t

>>17472663
I'm going to need you to siphon up some CdM if you haven't thrown the can out yet.

>>17472663
serious flex right here

>>17472537
it's a great starter machine, but if you really like espresso you'll want to upgrade eventually

>>17471767
BUY IT!!! NOW!

>>17472718
aww dude, that shit went in the bin before October was even over

>>17472740
Kek. I thought I remembered you saying that but it was worth a shot.
>>17472732
What makes it great or preferable to anything else in the ~$500 range?

>>17472526
kept them in there just for you <3

>>17472566
You overswirled your siphon

>>17469069
>Not befriending a manger in some coffee shop to use their grinder
Are you even trying?

>>17467281
Underrated

what coffee do women drink? do they get coffee autism too?

>>17473508
Yeah but its usually dumb bitches calling themselves "coffee snobs" on tinder while making maxwell house in an ikea french press.

anyone here done cold brew with milk? do you add more milk afterward, or drink it like that?

>>17473706
no do it strong, with water
then thin with milk

>>17473508
My wife drinks and enjoys my coffee and enables/encourages my autism but doesn't get into it herself beyond doing a so-so pourover occasionally.

coof

>>17471895
>https://www.odysseyespresso.com/argos-lever-espresso-machine
>Not out yet
Looks very interesting though. I have a flair and I think it's on par with $2k machines

>>17472296
>Breville
>makes good coffee
Choose one. I'm ok when family/friends use Breville cos that's their budget but I don't kid myself that it is good.

>>17466399
Is that a grinder?

>>17472271
>the $500 flair
>the $60 of metal +marketing
how can that cost nearly as much as shit with heaters and electronics in them?

>>17475107
the art of brown water.

>>17475107
don't trigger me

>>17472746
How much does a Lelit Anna goes for where you live?

I'd stay away of the the single boilers without PID trap like the Gaggia Classic that everyone keeps recommanding.

>>17473151
wtf does this even mean?

hoffman's aeropress recipe is pretty good, not sure why I'm surprised.

>>17475731
Very good very nice

>>17475691
>he doesnt know
ngmi

>>17475525
Oh they jacked the price to $600 now. Not many other machines in that range with a heated group and inherent flow control.
>>17475629
~$600 for the jank 57mm one. I'm not in the market for a worse machine at the moment. I just wanted that guy to elaborate on why his shitty little fix recipe thermojet isn't shit.
>On Lelit machines the main difference between 57 and 58mm basket isn't the millimeter... The boiler with 57 basket is ~225 ml and comes from Mokita machines. 58mm group is a rebirth of Brasilia Lady, Club, Faema Family first series and others. 350ml boiler, and a warranty of far much better espresso, and far more easily.

Kenya dark roast
Supposedly hints of toffee. Not like I can taste it

>>17475991
>Not like I can taste it
ngmi

>>17476032
Look. I know im responding to a mongoloid, i know. But i have to tell you. You dont know anything about coffee. Read all the faggot books you want. Go to coffee fest and turn your nose up to the italians and masturbate over synesso. Go pay thousands of dollars to be a q gradee and look at coffee under a uv light. Go for it. I dont even care. Just remember kid, i was stripping trucks of supremos while you were in fucking poopy pants diapers. I remeber when Choc full of Nuts delivered coffee in a fucking rolls royce. Your playing yourself, kid.

I have over 100 specialy offerings from 97 different countries of origin in contianer quanities AT ALL TIMES. Wow you say mr. Coffee broker bean KANG you just doxed yourself on the internet, but i dont care. Fuck you. Ive been doing this so long i was playing golf with the nca guys before it blew up ive been a member and disbarred by the scaa more times then your punk ass has even been on there mailing list. Ive FUCKED my way through more coffee roasters secrateries than you even have in your rolodex. I have a warehouse filled with over $1,000,000 of espresso equipment laying DEFUNCT.

People like you, kid, people like your are marks, customers, losers. Go ahead, drink your shitty overextracted coffee; freeze your green coffee; hook up pid machines to your little home.use espresso machines, buy a 1 bag Lorring. But to me kid, youll always be a loser and a faggot

>>17475629
People recommend the gaggia specifically because you can easily add PID and adjust OPV, and it's pretty easy to find them secondhand often with those mods already applied.

>>17476041

>>17476041
wow, you're as upset as the guy I called a larp because he claimed he could taste the apricot of his coffee just like he was licking the skin of an apricot. interesting to see both

>>17476184
Don't fall for years old stale pasta.

>>17476191
only read half of it anyways, lol

I got a pretty nice grinder for Christmas. Much better results and ease of use than my previous one with way more consistent grain size, so my press coffee is a lot smoother now. Had to experiment to get it just right though, very watery brew from my press if I set it too coarse.

One weird thing is that I prefer pre-ground coffee with a splash of milk but freshly ground I only drink it black.

>>17476227
Oh no.

>>17476227
Breville SGP?

>>17476231
Says "wilfa" on the top, looks like this. I don't know if it's actually a good one, just that it's better than my old POS.

>To start, it has five different grind level settings to suit your brewing method of choice.

I'm actually considering getting a fully auto cawfee machine because I'm fucking lazy

>fully auto coofie

>>17466755
>rehydrating beans before roasting
Tell me more, I have been roasting for 15 years and never heard of this.

>>17466755
The SGP saga was truly the beginning of the end. Either that or the cum yourself cold brew was the point where I stopped taking /ctg/ seriously and joined in on the rampant shitposting after posting normally in this general for around 3 years

>>17476257
Whatever if it's not the most gourmet option, it's fine to trade quality for convenience in the areas of life that you don't have a particular interest in. Go for it. Just take care to clean it regularly.

I’m going out for afternoon coffee (usually just make my own)
what should I get?

>>17476692
Get something unhealthy and fancy you don't or wouldn't make at home. If the place serves alcohol as well, get a "Mexican Coffee" which is a Irish Coffee with Kahlùa instead of whiskey.

>>17476697
I just got a cortado what did I think of it?

>>17476191
It's not even a year old

>>17466399
I was all ready to buy one of them things until I saw the price tag. 200 bucks? 250 maybe? Sure. Why not?
No - they want fucking two and a half grand for that thing.
Absolutely shameless.

>>17476809
What did you mean "what did I think of it?", just speak your mind.

>>17476821
>Anything over $100 is overkill

>>17467050
>he thinks the whole site isn't just /pol/ talking about different topics on different boards
Imagine being this much of a dipshit.

>>17476576
https://christopherferan.com/2021/03/15/the-green-coffee-rehydration-protocol/https://christopherferan.com/2021/03/15/the-green-coffee-rehydration-protocol/
>>17476816
Time isnt real and the pics I have from fucking with that guy are from feb 9th. Over a year is years in my book.

>>17476905
>I am stupid
Okay

>>17476922
I mean I've got the .png from feb 9th 2021 that made him sperg out about freezing beans.
>It's not even a year old
Its over a year old.

>>17476905
Oh one of those links should be
https://christopherferan.com/2020/02/18/so-a-coffee-walks-into-a-sauna/

>>17476936

>>17476821
>200 bucks? 250 maybe?
LOL

>>17476905
interesting link, thanks
>(a) carry heat into the center of the coffee and promote even development, (b) inhibit the rate of browning reactions initially, pushing them later into the roast allowing the coffee to be roasted more evenly without developing “roasty” character and also without flavors associated with “underdevelopment,” and (c) change the mixture of reactions that occur based on presence of water.
I dont agree with all he says but it's worth a try i guess.

(c) I disagree with because the water rehydrating probably isn't reacting chemically with the bean, and a few extra % moisture being lost as steam is probably negligible.

(b) sounds odd to me as well because I learnt to start with high heat and to start dropping the heat after first crack, ie to get the beans dried out as fast as possible to avoid the baked taste. It's interesting that he notes that rehydration allows putting more energy in at the beginning due to the bean being protected by moisture, but if you are putting more energy in just to create steam does it really change the speed in which the bean is heated?

>pic is how I roast beans still. I have tried many methods but nothing beats the simplicity of a covered pan over a (preferably gas) stove.

>>17469320
Average coffeehead, spitting on the ways of old and selling the replacement

>>17476821
There's no way the material cost on that is more than $20. They're making a killing and those suckers are eating it right up and begging for more.

>>17476978
Yeah there was some canadian chick(I think) who use to post artisan logs here and we'd have little discussions. She was the one who mentioned rehydrating to me. I think she was putting a damp paper towel into the jar the night before roasting? I haven't played around with it too much but I'd just stick a boveda in a mason jar for a week and then roast 2 batches to see if you can tell a difference.

>>17477004
>There's no way the material cost on that is more than $20.
>Made in USA, designed, made and finished in USA.
> Weight: 32lbs

>>17476821
>>17477004
the absolute state of folgers fags

>>17477035
>>17477039
The absolute state of newfags

the absolute state of 1zpresso kids

>>17477004
>>17476227

Got really lucky this morning because I went to my favorite fancy doughnut shop and got a latte, found out they get beans from my favorite local roaster. Still have a crazy amount of donuts, about to go eat some before I forget about them.

>>17466399
just here to remind u why drink coffee when moster energia exists? kinda stupid. coffee taste like shit and gay

>>17477325
enjoy your energy drinks, sincerely wish I was enough of a tastelet retard to enjoy them

coof

>>17476821
If a Californian/NYer looked at the webpage that increases the price $1000.

>>17476876
>/pol/
4chan is for /b/ to play.
/pol/ is a fun troll.
HONK HONK
TRUMP 2024!

>>17476978
>Activated beans

>>17477035
https://www.prioritybicycles.com/
New York made bicycle with Colorado made belts costs less.
Coffee hypebeasts are an easy mark.

>>17478208
IT'S ONLY $65/POUND!

>>17478208
Take those shimano gears and see if you can grind through 5k lbs of coffee with your legs.

>>17478245
do you have to use a burr like that for coffee or does a grain burr work?

Because if you can use a grain burr.
Made in USA Grain Mill $675.00
Bicycle Kit for Made in USA Grain Mill $570.00
New York made bicycle with Colorado made belts $1,299.00
and it does a bit more than sit on your counter.

>>17478290
Why would you ever spend more than $100 on a grinder

>>17478292
If you can clean it effectively and it also grinds whatever you put into it.
I don't think you are going to be making bread from anything that comes out of >>17478245

>>17478290
Try it and get back to us.

>>17478326
i can't decide which one to get.

They've been busy.
I've been shilling them in the prepper threads.
Wanted to know the quality before I bought.
Sure are sexy.

>>17478346
That image reminded me of the photoshopped image of the SGP with a crank on the side and I almost shit myself laughing

The bikes are very nice, I own one.
I was skeptical of the belt drive but it's been 5 years commuter with no problems.
I'd be looking at the Flair 58 if it was solid.
That janky thing was nothing but wobble in the promo video.
https://youtu.be/jAQLi5H8eqo
wonder what bitterroot could do about that chinky wobble.
>>17478394
I thought that was real the first time I saw it.

>>17475629
>>17475979

Is the Lelit Glenda any good then?

omg.
https://youtu.be/BM6gOV8dkJo
he knows the superior brew method.

>>17466952
a-am i supposed to put my dick in this thing?

>>17478495
use it for a year or two and you won't have a dick at all

>>17478402
>if it was solid.
There's definitely a bit of a wobble but its not too bad. People have taken off the base and bolted it straight into counters which might mitigate it a bit. I'm still pulling great shots with it though. I'm going to jigsaw out a little riser at some point to get bigger cups underneath it and probably slip some of this under the base.
https://www.amazon.com/Dycem-Non-Slip-Material-Roll-Black/dp/B002WQ7AB2

>>17478502
>a recent study found that DMT, TMCD, and CHDM at 10μM concentration inhibited androgenic receptor by 42.3%, 32.27%, and 9.95%, respectively
>>17478528
I'll buy it when it's perfect. If it gets there.
Not paying $600 for chinesium.

I made coffee approximately 7 hours ago but forgot to make a post about it. What did I think of it?

hottop behmore or this hot piece of ass?
or is there something better?

>>17478732
What the fuck even is that

>>17478768
an electric roaster designed in denmark made in taiwan.
https://youtu.be/A1yEYLvE-p8
I'd rather not use gas.

>>17478788
>made in taiwan
You mean the People's Republic of China?

>>17478797
>People's Republic of China
you mean West Taiwan?

What's a good coffee bean that is fruity and sweet? I use a Moka pot for brewing btw, and I live in the Philippines so local beans are fine tho idk which one of them to buy.

>>17478955
for me? 100% specialty high grade robusta

>>17478958
>>17478958
I don't think I can acquire that kind of stuff here anon. Nestlè acquired most of the robusta farms here.

oh nvm.
I doubt it will ever come out.
sure would tho.

>>17478955
ethiopian/brazil blend.

I'll just stick with my Fresh Roast no one has anything that much more appealing.

>>17478532
>I'll buy it when it's perfect. If it gets there.
>Not paying $600 for chinesium.
Why do poors expect the world for a few hundred bucks? You're several thousand away from luxury goods and you wouldn't believe how much people bitch about shit like the Decent.

>>17478394
>>17478402

imagine being such a loser you steal other people pictures of their Slayer to look all mighty on an anonymous image board...

>>17479388
I can't wait until slayernon sees this lol.

>>17479400
kek

>>17479428
Is that a spring clean? I really hope I don't end up getting fucked on this key.

>>17479435
it is indeed a spring clean
you’d be amazed at the amount of shit that thing can clear out of the group

and while we’re on the subject of old Dougie, I highly recommend his pepper mills

>>17479453
Spring clean was the first weber thing I came across and it instantly seemed extremely well thought out. I figured I'm fine but with sprometheus's review of the key and me seeing the new flat/conical wug2 I'm somewhat having preorderers remorse. Doug called him out him out for jewing up his views though which only ups my confidence tho. We've talked about those mills a few times now. I'm the hotrodded flair bozo.
>We also think it’s worth mentioning now that the vast majority of early KEY users, many of which are industry leaders, world barista champs, and super tuned-in aficionados, have been overwhelmingly positive. They are just not trying to rush out a YouTube review in order to get a bunch of clicks. They’re too busy with their business and enjoying their coffee. The positive reviews are out there, but Internet buzz tends to gravitate to the bitter ones fishing for clickbait. Time will fix all of that

>>17479453
this has to be the top

>>17479466
maybe I have, or maybe I haven’t ever discussed my disappointment with the MAX
I feel a little burned by this thing and it was one of the first ones ever made I thought it was going to be an improvement over the basic flat but it certainly isn’t

I dunno if getting in on the ground floor with some of these novel things is the best option, before all the kinks are properly defined and worked out
there’s a great deal of self-delusion that comes with the inevitable argumentum ad crumenam after you’ve pissed away so much cash on something that you ought to regret buying

>>17479570
reading Camus in english might be a bigger mistake than buying the Max

anyone have an aeropress recipe they like for an americano that doesn't burn through 30g of coffee per cup

>>17479570
>before all the kinks are properly defined and worked out
I figured if wug had figured out strap on motors to weber burr carriers, weber would be able to do it but who knows :/ Letting them iron shit out is half the reason I'm opting to wait a while on sea shipping. Other half being I really fucking like the kinu. Hopefully they crack the whip at that factory before china invades taiwan and I get a high quality unit.

I have 300 bucks and want to make espresso at home, ideally manual.
Do I go for 9barista, flair or robot?

>>17479673
do you have a grinder?

>>17479676
I don't, but the 300 is specifically for the machine. I know I'm gonna have to buy the grinder apart.

>>17479673
>>17479687
Flairbro here. Don't listen to the dipshits, you're still going to want to preheat the robot on everything but the darkest roasted beans. You're trading slight inconvenience for flow profiling on the cheap. I used a scratch and dent signature for years before the 58. I'd cycle boiling water in a yeti mug to preheat my shit but this is the new tech.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JiQxoaMc-fg
9bar, robot, and the cheaper flairs all use different proprietary baskets so they're all shitty in different ways.

>>17479673
300 breads won't get you a 9barista

>>17479733
Maybe you're assuming some prior knowledge which I don't have, but I don't know what you're trying to say. Do you not recommend any of them?
>>17479758
It's 330 euros. I have enough margin for that.

>>17479842
No, they're all great with different workflows and downsides. 9bar has the best build quality but you're limited to a fixed recipe essentially. The only variable you can play with is heat. Flair and robot you have to deal with a somewhat annoying preheat, but you get absolute control over the pressure and flow. The robot has weird super tall baskets which limit certain "accessories" like tampers and distribution tools but some people like it. The cheap flairs have way more tools available now compared to when I had one of them so you might want to check that out. Prep is super important.

>>17479872
As of right now I'm one of those people who want good quality coffee without having to worry about variables, and also I'd be making espresso only for myself, so a 9barista would be ideal I think. If it consistently makes the same great coffee, then that's good enough for me.
I guess the question really is whether a flair or a robot are capable of making significantly better coffee, which I'm guessing is probably not the case.

>>17479993
Pressure/flow profiling will definitely bring out the best of your coffee. Levers are based. The 9barista is an extremely cool machine, but in terms of espresso you can mimic the profile of it no problem with the flair or robot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0W-ryM8y_w
>one of those people who want good quality coffee without having to worry about variables
Thats not how good coffee works.

Late to the party I guess, it's intriguing but not a game changer. I'll tweak the recipe a bit and hoping for a better result.

>>17466399

About to make coffee. What will I think of it?

>>17480876
overswirled and bitter

>>17480896
I actually ground on the wrong setting and got so mad that I broke by V60 so I won't be making coffee

>>17480861
I KEEP FALLING FOR IT

>Make positive posts about the Flair
>Suddenly the screen is coming loose and making my espresso taste like bitter shit

someone help me figure out why this thing would be shit
besides being no name chinese trash
https://www.amazon.com/Gooseneck-Temperature-Stainless-Protection-Precision/dp/B09QPKWBGC/

What do the IKEA coffee beans taste like?

>>17481063
Which screen? Old silicon gasketed or the newer all steel one that sits on top of the basket? I had to buy this separately when I had a signature and it made a noticeable difference. Silicone one would get pressed down into the puck while the new one rests on the basket lip.
https://flairespresso.com/product/standard-ss-dispersion-screen/

>>17481092
>besides being no name chinese trash
Its probably not 18/8 so who knows how long it will last/what its excreting into your water. Could turn out fine, could turn you into a mongrel. Could rust immediately, could last your entire lifetime etc.

>>17481200
The new steel one.
I have a new bag of dark roast and after pouring in the water into the chamber it dislodges the screen causing it to brew (fucking awfully) without applying pressure.
I've tried 18g & 16g and going courser as I was wondering if it were too fine (might still be the case)

>>17481483
Rip. Maybe the beans need to rest and offgas a bit more?

>>17481092
no spaces after commas

>>17481483
jb weld the screen

>>17481520
yeah it's definitely an ESL product

>>17481515
That could be it. Previously I did notice fresh beans make a noise with the flair but it's never been an issue

NEW

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>>17481544

>>17481544

>>17481544

I'm about to make the new thread, anyone have any objections aside from it being a bit early?

new thread >>17481551

>>17481547
>>17481554
yeah I have an objection, there's already a thread and its a cute girl instead of an ugly black guy

>>17481545
Way too early.
>>17481554
Thanks.

>>17481557
>Way too early.
>bump limit was already reached
what did the samefag mean by this

>>17481563
On same boards it's customary to make the next thread on page 9-11.
For example on /an/ a thread that just reached bump limit will still be on the catalog for days, 310 isn't the time to make the new one and if you do almost everyone will ignore that thread.