/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Can this actually happen, or was the guy just a weakling?

WTF I hate china food now. I hope this case doesnt lead to more violence #stopasianhate #mylegsmychoice #notproperlyreheated

>>17467861
Was it a man or a teen?

I watched a documentary on ancient Egypt and the presenting historian explained at the beginning she's missing legs and tip of her nose due to food poisoning sepsis.

>>17467881
His roommate got sick too, but no where near as bad. Bacterial infection can do a fuckload of bad things to you sometimes, depending on the person.

>>17467892
>1. I am never eating out again
>2. I didnt know I had an amputee fetish

>>17467881
>>17467893
Yeah sometimes you just get really fucking unlucky and a sepsis just fucks you up. We all live in an illusion that lives is not brittle. t. Doctor

>>17467892
I once had really bad food poisoning and it started when I was taking my morning shower before class and a stream of shit just blasted out of my ass with no warning. Had to go to the hospital for severe dehydration

I've eaten unrefrigerated leftovers dozens upon dozens of times and I'm perfcly fucking fine. If you peolke honestly think that thiws sort of thnmf

>>17467909
What part of really unlucky don't you understand? Like one out of 500 000 unlucky.

>>17467909
>perfectly fine
>suffers a stroke mid-shitpost

What's more common? "Leftover rice fucked me up" or "this food prepared by mongoloids fucked me up."

>>17467921
If the loser made rice at home and ate it a few days later this wouldn't have happened.

>>17467906
Had food poisoning from some bad bbq chicken. Shit so much, I got an anal fissure and I couldnt shit right for 2 years.

Im perfectly fine throwing suspicious food away.
The risk of eating something bad and the harm to my body vs the cost of food are really not close to each other.

Why leave food on room temp, it starts going bad in 4-6h
At least you can reheat food to kill all bacteria and you just have to digest the toxins pooped out by bacteria. If the food doesn't smell bad it can't be that harmful if you kill the bacteria.

>>17467909
by your typing you don't seem fine.

>>17467946
>not eating the egg salad at the picnic thats been left out in the hot sun for 5 hours

>>17467909
Based strokeposter

>>17468025
The heat of the sun anon.

>>17468075
UV does kill bacteria.

>>17467946
>Why leave food on room temp, it starts going bad in 4-6h
Does it really go bad that quick

In my family my mom cooks and we just leave stuff out then reheat it when needed, so it stays out for like, a day or two

>>17468102
refrigerate that shit nigger, you can still reheat it and it will be fine. sickening.

>>17468102
>kid from the story in OP gets unlucky one time and loses half his body
>meanwhile people like you play with fire on a daily basis and live to teach this behavior to their kids
To answer your question, yes anon, fucking refrigerate that shit before you run out of luck and learn the hard way.

I used to leave takeout fried rice out overnight and eat it the day after, granted my flat was always on the cold side but it's still a wonder how I didn't put myself into hospital from being that retarded

>>17467881
>>17467893
He also didnt have his meningitis shots up to date

So I've never lived with a roommate before but is this normal?
This guy brings home food and puts it in the fridge, the next day his roommate decides to eat his roommates food without asking for it?
Did he microwave it?

I'm wondering how long those noodles were in the fridge for

if i eat enough icky food can i get them to amputate my head

>>17468229
Depends on the roommate, some people are easy going when it comes to sharing food and groceries, some people are more uptight about possession and boundaries. It's less of a big deal if you're bros with your roommate.

>>17468224
I don't remember ever getting a meningitis shot

>>17468318
It's probably in your cocktail given at birth.
I only know I don't have that one sex-virus vaccine because most of my family reacted badly to it despite "no side-effects possible", and my parents weren't planning to raise a whore-fucking retard, and suceeded in that.

>>17468102
Where do you live? Are you in a hut?

>>17468102
You are so fucking lucky anon

Do people really get mega fucked off stuff that doesn't obvious stink of bacteria?
I got 2-days-of-shitting-and-puking food poisoned off a roommate's fried rice before and when I smelled the bottle of oil he'd used it was obviously fucked and the spices and such had just disguised it from me; if he hadn't been a stupid cunt he'd have known the instant that shit hit the pan if he didn't just check the bottle itself first.

>>17467861
all my food comes out of a boiling pot.

>>17468382
Most of the seriously harmful bacteria isn't really detectable that way but you're right, from my experience most people have a flippant attitude towards food safety
Also I doubt you got sick because of the oil unless it was reused
Did he try to do the chinese technique of frying with rice that had been left out overnight?

I literally leave food out for days. You guys should start doing it develop an immunity to this stuff

>>17468413
You dont

O fuck o fuck ur demotivating me i feel so demotivated

>>17467861
Here's a summary to what happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqHpnoV00j4

Dude never got his meningococcal vaccine boosters, and waited overnight to go to a hospital besides the fact that he was so sick he was lying on the floor.

If you ever feel neck stiffness alongside a headache/vomiting, go to a fucking hospital

>>17467893
>Roommate gets sick and throws up
>Still takes it home

>>17468402
It was a half-full bottle of vegetable oil with a label design that looked like it was 10 years out of date, crusty stuff around the cap and a bizarre stink, I'm pretty sure I had the culprit correct. I didn't see it cooked IIRC but it's been like 10 years. I'd go to the hospital for that kind of thing now but back then I just stupidly risked my life and got over it.

>>17467861
>chicken
Of course. Even bad noodle by itself can’t cause this much pain. And this is why I only automatically eat kosher or halal meats with no blood in them and cooked completely.

>>17468416
I'll fry up some burgers and just store them in the microwave until I'm ready to just turn it on and eat some more

>>17468432
That strategy is OK

>>17468420
What are the chances that this happened because he was American and he was anxious about the hospital fees and so he decided to just ignore it cause he didn't want to spend the money over potentially nothing?
I wanted to call him a moron but now I'm not sure

>>17468441
I'll answer your question if you show me your balls

>>17468441
Good bait.

>>17468447
Uh I don't have any sorry
>>17468451
Not supposed to be bait
I'm just trying to understand this guys decision not to go to the hospital

>>17467909
lel

>>17468455
No on expects to get their shit amputated from an upset stomach.

>>17468462
He didn't have just an upset stomach
>Multiple episodes of emesis occurred, with vomitus that was either bilious or red-brown. The abdominal pain and vomiting were followed by the development of chills, generalized weakness, progressively worsening diffuse myalgias, chest pain, shortness of breath, headache, neck stiffness, and blurry vision. Five hours before this admission, purplish discoloration of the skin developed, and a friend took the patient to the emergency department of another hospital for evaluation.

>>17468441
He's a 19 year old student so it's highly likely he either had insurance through his school or his parents

Either way it was pretty stupid

>>17468467
Guess its better to die than go to an american hospital and become a debt slave forever

ITT: people not realizing refrigeration wasn’t always a thing.

>>17468382
Bacillus Cereus is an insanely common food poisoning that comes from fried rice.

Situations like this the food won't 'stink'. Its just that the proper precautions weren't made when prepping it so the food turns into a live petri dish

>>17468224
meningitis is just just the flu, dudes legs were just pussies who couldnt handle a little cough

>>17468420
>If you ever feel neck stiffness alongside a headache/vomiting, go to a fucking hospital

anon please tell me youre fucking with me. i have seriously bad headache and stiff neck with swelling this morning and just 30 minutes qgo ut both happened after i fapped. i was sure i was just dehydrated/lacking electrolytes from cooming, there's no reason for a healthy adult to suddenly get these symptoms from food poisoning? i got them BEFORE i ate anything today.

>>17468522
>he doesn't know
Based deadposter

>>17468102
Iv been doing the same for the 28 years iv been alive and never been sick, iv only been sick from eating stuff out of home that other people have prepared, im going to say thats pretty good evidence that its fine unless i am the luckiest person alive.

>>17468522
It's probably nothing to worry about dude.
The signs I'm referring to are those related to meningitis - which is inflammation of the meninges (around the brain) and spinal cord.

You would probably have a high temperature and flu-like symptoms accompanying this (nausea, vomiting, etc)

Also, the 'neck stiffness' that we're talking about is related to 'nuchal rigidity' - basically, tissues in your spinal cord are inflamed and tighten up so it hurts to flex your neck forward.

I wouldn't worry unless you're feeling extreme sickness alongside the headache/stiff neck. Meningitis is pretty serious

>>17468522
Did you sleep weirdly?
Just watch out for the symptoms of tetanus

>>17468533
>>17468542

30 minutes ago i was in middle of fapping when my neck suddenly became sore and i got bad headqches up to crowne of head almost to point of nausea. i finished fapping, downed water and advil, and got gaterade for good measure.

>>17468554
Did you fap with a weird neck posture?

>>17468420
I'm surprised he was even able to get into school— they're mad anal about immunization stuff like that.

>>17468556

not really i fap lying down in bed no different than usual. but im worried because its been a while since i've cleaned my air fryer.

>>17468318
I'm 33 and never got one. My sister (older than me) was offered one in high school after a classmate died of bacterial meningitis.

>>17468577
can you post a webm of you fapping so we can analyse it?

>>17467892
I appreciate that she explained it at the start, because I would not have been able to pay attention to anything about Egypt if she hadn't.

>>17467898
She looks like Macauley Culkin, man.

>>17468592

even if i wanted to i cant because lying down exacerbates the pain

>>17467946
It goes bad way quicker than that. As soon as it drops into the danger zone like 40-130 degrees bacteria starts to fester. I wouldn’t eat anything that has been left out for more than 2 hours.

>>17468522
>qgo ut

>>17468613
I eat food that's been left out for 3-4 hours maximum and I'm fine
Never had food poisoning before but I get extreme abdominal pain that leaves me crawled up in a ball groaning and then a toilet bowl full of running shit that reeks about 2-3 times every 6 months
Also sometimes eat the food cold without microwaving

>>17468627
microwaving certainly doesnt make food safe to eat

>>17468534
yeah same for me, I've only ever gotten food poisoning from outside sources. Fuck Subway

>>17468420
I once got meningitis and for three days I was trying to tough through a situation where turning my neck left or right made me basically fall to the ground.

Got a 5 on my AP World Govt. exam, went home to my mom to complain I was really sick, she still barely believed me, and took my temperature. I was a 105.8. Doctors said I was probably gonna die if I gave it a few more hours. Spinal taps suck.

>>17468257
Yeah. A huge red flag for me moving into a place is if people have dedicated shelves or label their shit. But I’m sure it was a case of him noticing the roommate was sick and being like “hey you want your heat your left overs from last night for lunch” and he was prolly like “no bro I’m too sick you can have it if you want” and the other bro not wanting food to go to waste ate it.

>>17468503
i even have insurance and i won't go to the doctor because they can bill you for literally whatever the fuck they want without telling you and your insurance will just say "lol not covering it" and then your boss will complain you missed work.

>>17468645
>105.8
holy fuck, any lasting damage? that's crazy, hope you're all alright now

>>17468661
Im pretty pleased about living in [anywhere but usa] and not worry about medical bankruptcy whenever I detect signs of not being in perfect health.

>>17468675

sometimes its not about insurance. i've always had insurance but it takes me a while to realjze im legit sick because when i feel unwell i tell myself to quit being a pussy and not use being uncomfortable as an excuse to be lazy.

>>17468627
4 hours is probably safe depending on what it is.. but just try to refrigerate your shit as soon as possible it’s easy.

Legit I’ve known dudes that took frozen burritos to work on a construction site and left them in their car all day on the dashboard to warm up for lunch. I also knew one dude that would microwave his lunch before he left for work then leave it in his lunch box so it was Luke warm by lunch. But then again my sister is a culinary school graduate chef and I’ve worked in food service so I tend to follow commercial guidelines which are more strict.

Only time I’ve ever gotten deathly sick from food poisoning was from a bad mussel in a New England seafood boil. It opened and looked fine, but as soon as I tasted it I knew something was wrong and spit it out. Idk if some other sea creature poisoned it and it hadn’t died before it was cooked or what. Literally gallons of water came out of my stomach and intestines. It happened so quickly and violently I couldn’t even get to the hospital if I wanted to. I was seconds away from calling an ambulance when I started holding water down again. The entire thing lasted maybe 45 minutes but I was one more diarrhea or vomit episode from losing consciousness.

Don’t fuck around with food safety when it comes to holding temps and especially not with seafood. I’ve eaten slightly undercooked chicken and medium rare pork all the time, raw fish and even blue (raw) beef and never had an issue. Never once gotten sick from things I’ve cooked, but again I don’t push the limits on expiratory dates or holding temps.

>>17468662
Nothing seemed to last from it, no. It was a long time ago, too, so nothing seems to be developing as I get older.

>>17468675
Yeah, I'm jealous of the other first world countries out there.

>>17468699
That's because you've grown up in this country where being sick to make more money for your boss at the behest of your health is considered a weird moral virtue.

>>17468661
I have a disability but still work full time making 70k and get free Medicaid. Something to do with a law Biden passed to keep people on Medicaid once they’ve been approved even if their income exceeds the limits later. Idk when I’ll lose it but it’s fucking nice. I’ve been seeing the doctor every other week for virtually everything. Got a sleep study done, surgery on my stomach, all kinds of psychiatrist and medication appointments, optometrists. Using it before I lose it. Couldn’t care less either cause I pay into that shit and illegals abuse the fuck out of it. But I feel for you bro I’ve filed bankruptcy twice due to medical bills.

>>17468740
>That's because you've grown up in this country where being sick to make more money for your boss at the behest of your health is considered a weird moral virtue.


You said it brother.
My dad is a surgeon - showed up to work with a mild fever (this was over a decade ago) and ended up fainting mid surgery, cracking his head on the OR table

>>17468732
Oh yeah I eat rare - medium rare ground beef all the time without issues either. But I’m also the guy that will throw milk out 5 days before the expiration because it smells a little sour. If it smells weird or feels slimy don’t eat it.

>>17468761
I’ve lost jobs because of this but I think after Covid employers are finally starting to realize that it’s not cool to show up to work sick. The post office literally fired me for having emergency surgery and being out 4 days back in 2018.

>>17468766
>The post office literally fired me for having emergency surgery and being out 4 days

What? Couldn't you sue them for wrongful termination? That sounds insane.

>>17468102
i've eaten nasty ass meat pizza that has been left out for 24 hours and all sorts
i wouldn't do it these days but never had an issue lol

>>17468557
probably claimed a religious exemption if the family is anti-vaxx

>>17467892
dude that would fucking SUCK

>>17467893
Bacteria are a psyop, like all microorganisms and certain small animals eg hummingbirds

>>17467861
I've left donuts out on the counter for multiple days and never gotten sick EVER.

Is this the safe thing to do?
>scoop out portion of noodles or rice you want to eat
>nuke it in microwave
>throw out anything that was heated and uneaten

>>17468799
*reheated and uneaten

>>17468797
>glazed as fuck, candied up bread
>meat and sauce that needs to be refrigerated

I wonder which one is going to fuck you up more if left out

>>17467903
hey doctor anon, i got my dick stuck in a coke bottle (yes it's tiny) so i tried to shred the bottle with a blender and now my dick is shredded off, how can i lose 40 lbs in 40 days?

>>17468799
rice is perfect growth platform for bacteria
microwave heats food unevenly so its likely that some bacteria remain
reheated food is potentially safer than the unheated since you kill the bacteria off

>>17468783
>suing the people in charge of the mail
Kek.

>>17468783
Not when you’re in your first 90 days, they don’t need a reason. Even though I’d previously worked for them for 4 years, because I changed offices and never made career I lost all of my seniority. Pretty fucked company to work for. Laughing my ass off now that they’re stuck in a union contract hiring carrier and rural assistants for 18 dollars an hour when McDonald’s is paying that much and entry level factory jobs are mid 20s. They’ve got a year left at best before they start to crumble.

>>17467909
that means it's working

>>17468784
Like I said it depends on what it is. Low moisture foods like pizza with cured meat toppings are probably fine. Rice is a no go. Anything that can hold an internal temperature in the real danger zone 80-120 degrees longer like soups or stews certain pastas, mashed potatoes, mayo based salads / dressings don’t fuck with. Chicken don’t fuck with. And it really depends on what bacteria gets trapped in there before you leave it out. That’s why I always smell things. You could trap bacteria in milk that will spoil it much better quicker than the expiration date. I go as far as to refrigerate my fruits and vegetables most of the time. And you should really freeze meat within a day or two of bringing it home if you’re not going to use it immediately. If you follow these guidelines you can be a lot more lax in your preparation and handling. If you try to make a medium rare burger out of slimy old oxidized brown ground beef you got on managers special you might get sick. But bright red properly temperature controlled ground beef I’m sure you could eat raw and likely never get sick.. even in an industrial setting where the beef was pre ground.

>>17468797
Donuts don’t need to be refrigerated nor does bread because it’s low moisture and not prone to bacterial growth. There are plenty of things you can’t, and subsequently can’t leave out at room temperature.

>>17468402
>technique of frying with rice that had been left out overnight?
This is the best way to get good fried rice where the rice grains are separate from each other (as much as possible) and have a nice tender chew to them. Imo the secret is to only do that if you know temps in the room don't get above mid 60's F, your rice isn't especially moist beforehand, and your rice cooker is generally clean. I always give my 24 hour old rice a very thorough smell test. Or just be prudent and put your damn rice in the fridge. The old cooked rice for fried rice trick still works the same when stored in the fridge.

>>17468799
Some bacteria leaves poison in the food once it has formed and no amount of cooking will make it safe. You can’t cook a corpse that was rotting for 10 days in the sun and expect it to be fine. That’s why you should never put hot soups in the refrigerator even if you intend to reheat it to 180 degrees. Always use an ice bath or place in small containers and let it come to room temp before refrigerating.

>spent the morning making rice balls for the first time
>put the extras in the fridge to bring to work
>open this thread

I’ll make this real simple. Bacteria needs 3 things to fester. Moisture, access to outside air with bacteria in it, and a temperature conducive to bacterial growth. Crackers without a butter content in a 0 humidity environment will not breed bacteria even left in the open for years because they contain no moisture, unless they absorb moisture from the air and will therefore never spoil. Canned goods, powdered goods, jarred goods, pickled shit, basically anything shelf stable takes a fucking long time to spoil *until* it’s exposed to outside air and contaminants because they’re vacuum sealed at the factory. Milk is boiled at extremely high temperature to kill bacteria and then vacuum sealed. Depending on the types of bacteria / yeast / cultures introduced to it as well as how long you leave it sitting out at a temperature above 38 degrees is how quickly it will spoil. It’s not some exact science, it’s common sense you have to learn. And there are certain foods that can breed certain bacteria or fungi that are more deadly than other foods, like molds or botulism. There’s also bacteria and mold that are perfectly fine and healthy to consume. That’s why it’s better to err on the side of caution when it comes to food safety and not leave cooked food at room temperature overnight.

>>17468882
That’s prolly fine bro. I regularly make 4 cups of rice in my rice cooker and refrigerate it for up to a week after cooking. Just don’t leave it out at room temp for long. The thing about rice is it’s extremely high moisture and cools very quickly so it gets to and stays in the danger zone much longer than other foods. Keep it on warm as you’re using it for the meal and immediately refrigerate. Warm all leftovers straight out of the cooler to 180 degrees and you’ll be ok.

>>17468907
>Milk is boiled at extremely high temperature to kill bacteria and then vacuum sealed.
Bullshit. I doubt that milk is pasteurized at anything higher than 170°F. Not enough for water to boil. If you ever actually cooked with milk you'll know that it curdles if the temperature gets too high. And it's not "vacuum sealed" as you put it. At most it's a natural vacuum created when the temperature of the liquid is reduced 120°F+ during refrigeration.

left a egg drop soup on the counter over night (autumn) and the next morning it was rancid. surprised it was that quick. how come cooked eggs can be safe then and not the soup??

remember that one kid that died from leftovers not long ago?

>>17469181
water activity
air

>>17467884
>china food

>>17469202
ok I get the water part put it was in a closed container. huh. it was just 8hrs or so

>>17467903
>We all live in an illusion that lives is not brittle
>t. Doctor
Nobody with a PhD in anything would type a sentence that fucking stupid.

>>17468102
there is a 99% chance you will be fine, but if you leave it out for 2 hours there is a 99.999% chance

>>17468102
You should always refrigerate stuff an hour or two after it is cooked

>>17467906
>>17467943
Based fellow food poisoning liquid shitters. Had food poisoning one other time in my life, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as what I got from Carl's Jr. last year. Quite literally pure water blasting from my asshole. Had to muster up the energy to go to the hospital and ask for IVs, I was so dehydrated. It all felt like a dream until I got a couple IVs in me and went home.

wtf is leftover really that bad?
when I was poor I would eat it all even if it smelled awful now I just throw it in the thrash

>>17467909
Based jabber

>>17469188

>>17468248
Yes, but just let them know beforehand which part you consider the "scraps"

>>17469387
I always put cooked food into the sink with cold water, it cools much, much faster and doesnt linger in the 30-50c zone where bacteria activity is highest.
Then it goes into room temp faster so I can put in the fridge and wont heat up the fridge like it would if you just put warm food there.

>>17468522
Do some neck curls once it starts hurting less, your neck's probably fucked up from staring at screens. I had the same shit happen to me randomly, hurt like a bitch until I got my neck muscles stronger and it went away.

>>17469188
>>17469465
he left it out at ROOM TEMP and also drank an entire bottle of pepto bismol and was suffering the effects of that alongside the food poisoning IIRC

the fuck is up with these leftover food fearmongering threads? it's always the same content reposted almost verbatim, really weird.

>>17468656
>A huge red flag for me moving into a place is if people have dedicated shelves or label their shit.
i see a red flag for a shit roommate right here

I had a pawn in rimworld die of hypothermia because she got downed outside in winter because of food poisoning

>>17467906
I got food poisoning from homemade chili. I was just walking through my room when all of a sudden I vomited out of nowhere. After that happened I immediately felt extremely sick and was vomiting and shitting for hours. I havent made that chili since and that was years ago now

>>17468786
you will never be a woman faggot kike

>>17468188

I have been taking food to work for years. I just leave it in my bag and eat it during lunch time. It stays out for at least 5 hours, plus it's been cooked the day before and again, left out. Only pussies get food poisoning. It's similar to being lactose intolerant. Seriously gay.

>>17468783
>suing a government agency
Good luck

>>17468420
If you start throwing up minutes after you ate some food it's fucking 911 time regardless what the other symptoms are.

>>17467861
fellas is it true you should let something cool down before putting it in the fridge?

>>17467909
Kek

>>17468422
>Just a prank, bro!

>>17470643
>>17470643
No, you are just letting the bacteria stay in their optimal temperatures for longer.

>>17470083
Zoomers get all of their opinions from youtube and social media, which they trust implicitly.