/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17460695
It's a good thing the workers control the means of production so they can continue to profit off of the productive capacity of the company they helped function and grow with their labor while not having to work as much!

>>17460699
>workers control the means of production
That sounds like fascism. I bet you think trucker-terrorists should own their own truck, too.

>>17460704
Fascism is the merger of corporate and state power.

>>17460706
No it isn't. It's when fascist racist anti-feminists terrorize people and we have to call in police and private security forces to stamp them out. God, did you not pay attention in history class?

>>17460709
You're boring.

>>17460712
You're Islamophobic and anti-Black.

>>17460695
good. wagies will be seething

>>17460705
>2022
>still thinking robotic arms represent good design

>>17460695
>Free advertising

Obviously this is the future but we’ve got a good 5-10+ years of staff “accidentally” sabotaging it, even if it’s all on camera.

>>17460695
This is a great day for human progress. *beep bop*

>>17460695
>no more wagies fucking up my burgers

Yep, I'm thinking based.

>wagies be like "i need $15 an hour"
>crank up price because im paying wagies $15 an hour
>customers stop coming
>buy robots who will never complain

>>17460877
Just the robots fucking it up unless there is an incentive to go the extra mile beyond replacing human labor. Unless it's a place with standards they are totally going to let those help helpers run unoptimized and poorly maintained.

>>17460705
Is it really an arm flipping around carrying baskets of fried shit like that? Seems inefficient as fuck

This being said, it feels like White Castle is gambling on this this. Apparently they just implemented the 'Flippy 2' in November of last year, and now they are expanding to 100 more locations?
They barely have 3 months of data about the robot , no company makes decisions just like that, it's kinda weird.

The robotics company that makes these robotinos is also like 4 years old, and just last year was proud to announce they raised a whopping 22 million dollars in funding. Which is like literally nothing. They can go belly up at any moment and white castle would be stuck with 100 robotinos that can break down at any moment with no official support at all.

>>17460695
mcdonalds can't even keep it's drink machines going, how the fuck they gonna run on robots lmao.

>>17460695
How has it taken this long to create an automated burger cooking machine? Is it really that difficult to automate cooking a piece of meat and moving it along a conveyer, why does it need to be a robot that can flip? Why not just slide it along a grill that cooks both top and bottom simultaneously?

white castle isn't a real restaurant. I've never seen one in my life

>>17460992
It's not bad for what it is, but what it is ain't good

>>17460752
The advantage of a robot like that is that you can just put it in an existing kitchen as a quick and easy automation solution.

Sure, it would be better to replace the kitchen altogether with an assembly line sort of system like they use in packaged food factories, but you'd basically have to tear down half the restaurant to do that. It's prohibitively expensive to retrofit an existing restaurant like that.

>>17460983
That IS difficult to pull off in the internal space of a White Castle store, yes.

Something like a factory line gives you a lot more freedom in the pipeline design, especially in terms of space vs. maintenance vs. scale vs. cost.

>>17460983
We've had food factories for like a century anon, it's not a new thing. You can easily make a machine that grills thousands of burgers every hour. In fact that's how they cook all the frozen meal crap you see in stores.

>>17460983
There have been automated White Castle burger making machines for like 20 years. What do you think makes these burgers that they sell frozen?

>>17460695
at least robots can't spit on it

>>17461084
yet

Have fun cleaning it

>>17460695
Me cause I invested in Miso :)

>>17461084
souless burger

>go to White Castle
>7 cents short on your order
>wagie doesn’t care and just tells you to not worry about it

>go to automated White Castle
>3 cents short for your order
>PLEASE INSERT PAYMENT
>”but I’m only three centirinos short”
>PLEASE INSERT PAYMENT
>”come on I don’t want to go home just to get three cents”
>PLEASE INSERT PAYMENT
>”But you’re supposed to be better than wagies”
>ORDER CANCELED FOR NON PAYMENT THANK YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY

>>17460699

>>17461185
Neither the wagie or the robot look bad in this scenario, but the person who simply doesn't have the money.
Anyone who intentionally goes to a place without checking or caring how much cash they have if paying in cash is going to inconvenienced.

>>17460961
White castle is 100% family owned so they can fuck around with crazy ideas and do whatever they want. And there are no franchises. That's why White Castle still has so much soul like other restaurants used to have in the 80's and 90's. All decisions are made by humans and there's no gay corporate board of directors and Jewish investors to please. No data, no problem.

That said, there's not much that they are gambling on. The flippy's cost and performance speed are a lot more predictable than those of human employees. It's a robust machine that doesn't break, with years of testing behind it. The white castle contract is big enough to keep that company alive on its own. And there's no upfront cost. Restaurants pay a subscription to the Flippy and get the installation and maintenance for free. So even if it did go belly up and the robotinos break, who cares? White castle and the other restaurants still made a profit while it lasted.

>>17460695
wage slave revolt

>>17461014
The burgers are ass. The sides and shakes are heavenly.

>>17461185
>Poor people who can't get credit cards or bank accounts inconvenienced
Sounds good to me

>>17460695
What would I be excited for? They're not going to drop prices on the consumer end.

2010:
>sorry the ice cream machine is broken

2025:
>sorry this location is updating its firmware

>>17461084
That's half the flavor gone then.

>>17460699
Until you're paying for the upkeep, supplies, etc. you're not contributing to the company staying alive. You're just a usless replaceable schmuck whose "labor" offers less value than that of the inanimate grill you flip those trash mini-burgs on.

>>17461253
do americans really by burgers on credit?

>>17461295
*buy

>>17461295
Yeah you get a discount if you do it right.

It's not the best burger out there by a long shot, but I could eat White Castle until every bite that I swallowed physically pushed the same amount out the other end.

>>17461256
the future was supposed to be better than this

>>17461295
I buy everything on credit, why wouldn't I? I get free shit for using my credit card, no I don't pay them any fees or anything

>>17461279
>Employees are paid for no reason

I would much rather buy fast food from an all automated restaurant. You know your food is never fucked with.

>>17461391
Have you ever worked at a factory? Everything is being fucked with all the time

>>17461401
Fewer chances=happens less

>>17461390
Employees are paid wages to fit their contribution. The SpongeBobs in the back get SpongeBob pay for a reason. They offer next to nothing to the company and, as such, are expendable, no matter how much baristas with philosophy degrees say they should have more of a stake in the company than those who contribute more.

>>17460695
I predict these robots will breakdown in less than 4 months and White Castle will drag their feet on maintenance and repair until eventually deciding that its not worth the cost.

>>17460695
Why should humans be involved with preparing food? It just makes it less hygienic. No reason the chef can't program a robot to do the recipe or whatever instead.

>>17461452
Just buy frozen food/tv dinners, they are all made in big factories with minimal human contact

Robot made food seems like its something made for the lower classes of society, cattle food

>>17460695
itll be the classic gambit of lowering the amount of extant jobs for the sake of efficiency and cost reduction just to end up with a more expensive product for the consumer. the future a shit

>>17461429
>Employees are paid wages to fit their contribution.
Productivity and inflation say otherwise. Spongebob got a living wage because even Mr. Krabs isn't too jewish to remember his employees are people.

>>17461476
I'd rather buy robot-cooked beef than human-cooked bug patties

>>17461519
Actually it's canon that SpongeBob pays Mr. Krabs for the privilege of working at the krusty krab. It's completely unexplained how he affords his house, which is one of the running jokes of the show.

>>17461791
>It's completely unexplained how he affords his house, which is one of the running jokes of the show.
Early on it shows he (seemingly) never paid for his house, it just grows there on the spot from a seed with all amenities provided.
But could have been retconned.

>>17460695
>raises paw
Does this bring the prices down? Otherwise why should I care.

>>17461185
>t. Seething wagie about to lose his job
Better start making my order correct from now on wagie or you’ll be replaced by a robot in a heart beat

we jimmy neutron now

>>17461385
this

>>17460695
But if they replace the workers with robots what jobs will all the stoners have?

>>17460961
If the robots last just 2 years they already save money that they whould throw in wages, insurances, ect.

The flippy renting starts at 3,000 a month for one, at 100 that means 300K a month for 100 flippy robots and for a year that means 3.6 million. If the 100 flippy robots succeed, how many wagie did they get rid of in savings in a year?

>>17461478
if anyone thinks burgers are gonna lower in price because of these getting rid of wagie wages is stupid
the eternal boomer and investors DROOL at massive profits, your burger price has been set already, they were never struggling before to pay wagies, they were just upset it made a pinhole dent into their ever-expanding wealth.

>>17460695
Based. Fuck brain dead wagies with no skills.

>>17461185
>automated systems means I'll have to be able to afford the item
>what if I don't have enough change for a slider

>>17460706
>Fascism is the merger of corporate and state power.
Go back to high school dude.

>>17460730
why? they've already been quitting in droves. most of these shitty fast food places have worker shortages. this can only help with keeping the grease flowing into your arteries

>>17461295
Not credit, but I use my debit card for everything. I can't remember the last time I used cash. It's easy to keep track of my spending, and because I told my bank not to ever authorize an overdraft I don't need to worry about spending money I didn't have.

>>17460695
I’m glad I don’t have to worry about getting robbed by the 13/50’s working the grill

>>17460961
>They barely have 3 months of data about the robot , no company makes decisions just like that, it's kinda weird.
Either the data was really impressive or like >>17461236 White castle so a great deal/service and took it.

>>17462938
He was literally quoting Benito Mussolini you fucking newfag.

I love white castle

Where did I hear this before?

>>17461279
jews are not welcome here