/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17408399
Idiot

>>17408399
Based and foodpilled.

All you need is a plate, a microwave, a jar, a fork, sardines, broccoli, eggs, an apple, and a brown liquid.

>>17408399
>I am so, so tired of hearing these things repeated ad nauseum.
and yet here you are, posting them in your bait thread.

>>17408411
It's not a bait thread. It spurred after seeing pic related.

>>17408399
>shine light on this pandemic as well
You expect the government to so anything GOOD related to public health?

>>17408416
the real bullshit of this is that the single mother of 2 gets hundreds of dollars in food stamps and child support and her monthly income is more in line with someone making a perfectly reasonable amount to pay her bills and feed her kids.

>t. son of a single mother with 2 kids

>>17408445
>mommy issues: the post
Let me guess, you got in trouble a lot as a kid and have bad luck with women.

>>17408416
>comparing a meal to raspberries
Case in point. Our healthcare "leaders" are fucking retarded. But I guess it's too hard to use basic division on a 2 dollar bag of rice portioned down to half cups or a 6 dollar pound of chicken.

>>17408399
Wow. Thank you for your blog, you whiny ass bitch faggot.
Hopefully someday I can take a shit on your face.

>>17408451
>I guess it’s too hard to autistically ration out something as plentiful and cheap as rice
Does the camp commissar come by every hour and beat you with a strap if you don’t count your rice?

>>17408399
>dude normies are so le dumb
Grow up already

>>17408399
I eat like shit to accelerate dying. We cool?

>>17408449
The opposite, really. I love my mother but she completely fumbled raising her kids. Some people just don't have it in them. I learned from her mistakes and I'm going to give my kids every chance thst I can to succeed, healthily and rational mindedly.

>>17408458
No I just prefer to make it in correct portions and measuring and cooking basic rice is stupidly easy, no excuse even pretending to be retarded.

>>17408511
Idiot
>>17408475
>planning how he’s going to parent kids who aren’t even born
Idiot

>>17408460
You're right. I've been trying to ignore these >>17408416 types of things as of late and just live my life as well as possible. I can't change the world, I can only choose how I respond to it. This thread was me slipping up and responding to it in a negative way.

I have to remember 4chan is for funposting and creative writing practice, not as a place to vent.

>>17408514
>can't cook rice
Then don't complain about being a poorfag because bars of gold cost more than a McDonald's meal.

>>17408458
>basic family food and budget planning are communist and antifreedom
holy shit no wonder you're poor and fat

>>17408399
its cheaper for me to eat like shit than it is to eat healthy. but it's also cheaper to eat healthy than it is to eat out all the time. if i could get away with it i'd live off canned meatballs and gravy.

>>17408519
>can’t read
Don’t reply to any more of my posts
>>17408523
You will never have children, you are idiot, probably can’t even find hole

>>17408526
>can't read
>is esl
Ironic.

>>17408528
>doesn’t know what irony is
>can’t read
If you reply to another one of my posts, a terrible tragedy will befall your lineage.

>>17408416
>$3.25
>$13 for a family of 4
i could cook a delicious healthy feast for 4 people for $13 and 35 minute,s easy

>>17408399
The same people who perpetuate this shit are the ones who shriek about enacting communism while insisting that it's classist discrimination to tell them to stop spending $1000+ on a new iphone every few months if they can't afford rent and food.

>>17408551
>$13 feast
Like being the tallest midget lol

>>17408416
Ah yes, the only two food choices available to any human being, McDonald's or raspberries.

>Chicken 3.49/lb
>spice: Oregano, black pepper, thyme, salt
>Rice/potato for starch: Cheap AF
>Pasta: A dollar a box
Spinach/Broccoli: Also cheap AF

That alone can feed you for a month for close to 100 bucks, probably less

>>17408559
how fat are you you think 4 casseroles isn't a feast?

>>17408551
Write it out anon

None of the retards who say eating healthy is expensive ever want to talk about the fact that a salad is dirt fucking cheap to make.

>>17408563
>doesn’t get the joke
Holy shit the absolute state of peasants

When I was in my serious weight lifting stage I ate chicken breasts broccoli rice eggs tuna yogurt and bread. That was all I was eating. It was much cheaper for this stuff than eating at McDonald’s daily. People are fucking lazy morons

>>17408399
>Almost 700,000 people die of heart disease in the US each year.

that's a good start but not nearly enough. i need enough people to die so that labor market shortages fuels my income gains. people that can't eat healthy and exercise regularly deserve to die, slow enough to experience the pain of diabetes and heart disease caused by their shitty lifestyle, but fast enough that employers want to onboard me yesterday.

>>17408567
i could come up with a million but it really depends on what's on sale and what's in season
for what's kind of cheap and in season right now where i am i'd i'd probably make do fajitas with a cheap cut of brasied beef/steak or even chickens
>$5
discounted/cheap bell peppers, avos and onions
>$4
flour tortillas
>$1.50
bean salad
>$3

>>17408606
>i am i'd i'd probably make do fajitas
Idiot

>>17408618
is this a bot?

>>17408620
No I’m just a regular guy. Please do not reply to any more of my posts.

>>17408409
wow, that sounds so delicious

>>17408551
if i saved those $13s for a week and had $90 i could feed a small army for a few days

>>17408399
>Almost 700,000 people die of heart disease in the US each year. Why don't we shine light on this pandemic as well?
America collectively decided that the cure for the coof lying around all day at home and ordering a shit ton of grubhub. Law of equivalent exchange. To end one pandemic meant succumbing fully to the other.

>>17408399
People think eating healthy means you need to prepare these elaborate dishes with 15 ingredients when in reality a couple of vegies, meat, beans, whole grains, seasonal fruit, are not that expensive at all. When you tell people to eat veg, meat and grains they will go uck im not eating THAT, its bland compared to the engineered to be addictive junk theyre accustomed to. There are cheap healthy options its just that they dont want to eat them. Just ignore these people and allow them to wallow in the health problems of their own making.

>>17408588
Kek based and checked. If people are so retarded that they can't into basic nutrition and budgeting then who cares if they die lol

>>17408813
I honestly agree with this.

>>17408516
You should start by not going on fucking twitter. And if you're too much of a faggot to do that, at least don't bring whatever banal bullshit you come across there to this site.

>>17408416
So what, this is like some kind of stealth twitter thread?

Just made about 5 meal's worth of a very nutritious and healthy stew for about 10 bucks. People just don't know how to cook even the most basic things.

>>17408974
OP doesn't know how to cook and is lashing out because all he eats are microwave tendies.

>>17408988
I agree, but that's not their fault. Our cooking classes in the UK are fucking bad and most working class parents literally do not know how to cook so they cannot teach their kids. When their kids decide to learn of their own initiative their parents literally PREVENT them from doing so because it makes them feel bad. It's fucking dumb.

I'm not even working class and it took way too much time and effort for me to finally figure out how to cook.

>>17408399
umm sweaty youre forgetting people dont have the time, they work and dont have all night to cook, they'd much rather microwave a piece of shit to get more time in front of netflix and facebook.
pls think before u post next time thnx

>>17409039
Rice takes exactly 20 minutes to cook and almost everything on the grill cooks faster than that. You'll spend longer waiting in line at McDonald's and seething about your order being slapped together wrong or old and cold than cooking. You're just lazy.

>>17408399
I spend a shit ton more when I eat unhealthy. I swear this narrative is only pushed by media and repeated by NPCs.
When I cook and meal plan:
>portioned food
>buying basic ingredients
Means
>Prevents overeating
>Not paying for labor of someone else cooking
Therefore you save money by:
>Eating less (i.e. appropriately)
>Using your own labor to save money
Fuck anyone that says otherwise. OP is right. You're lazy and fucking retarded.

>>17409060
The entire process at McDonalds from entering the door to leaving with your order is less than ten minutes.

>>17408562
What type of chicken are you buying for 3.49/lb? Organic?

>>17409076
Suuure it is, every time, and you just teleport back home at your dinnertable once you leave don't you zoomie?

>>17409087
And let's be honest. It's probably:
10 thinking about it
5 more min to work themselves off the couch
10 min to get ready
~10min drive in city/metro area
15min in drive thru
10 min back
2 min to kick shoes off and plop the jacket on the floor somewhere, too lazy to hang it up.
5 min to get back on the couch, food situated on tv table, and unwrapping to eat

So either an hour for the shit fast food or just get up and cook something yourself. I always surprised myself when I ordered shit, why I came back so much later than I thought.

>>17409102
Not to mention is a 50/50 shot it will taste like shit. Fast food is acceptable sometimes, but it's never the best or even the most practical option.

>>17408416
Raspberries are literally free in the summer. They grow wild all over the place.

>>17409070
i think you and OP are conflating eating unhealthy with eating out. it's often cheaper to buy quick and easy processed food than it is to buy individual ingredients and make something fresh.

>>17409134
>didn't read the thread
Enjoy your $9 "value meal" plus delivery fee and tip tardo

>>17409134
No, it's not often cheaper.

>>17408399
This seems like a healthy/weight loss thread, so i have a question.

How the fuck do you add more calories on a keto diet without eating too much protein?
I want to eat about 1500 - 1700 calories a day, and around 90 - 110g protein, but i always end up with more protein than that.
Which foods are relatively high in calories, relatively low in protein, but also low in carbs?

>>17409168
Fats.

>>17409168
Just eat 10 bags of pork rinds

>>17408416
> store-bought raspberries
Woman moment.

>>17408416
OP, don't you realize that the McDonalds salads are more expensive than the McDonalds fries?

>>17409236
Yum, bruised half rotten lettuce and wrinkly refrigerated tomato's for $4 oops we forgot the dressing

>>17409236
I really feel bad for that single mother of two, if only there were another option between mcdonalds burgers and fries, off-season raspberries, or expensive mcdonalds salads.
it's really a shame that there are literally zero other options.

>>17408399
>>17408399
>Eating healthy is SO expensive
>Eating healthy takes too much TIME
Literally never heard anyone say this ever

>>17408416
>>17409236
>too expensive

>>17409317
>>17409342
for you

>>17408399

>Why don't we shine light on this pandemic
sounds like a fucking faggot

What some people don't get is that the healthy food they're saying is expensive are the 'special foods'. Something like organic, keto, vegan, and whatnot. Basic fruits and vegetables are pretty cheap.

>>17409534
Staples are so cheap that there is literally no way the cheapest fast food could beat them on price.
It's 100% about people being lazy. Saying it's expensive gives them an out for being lazy.

It is expensive to truly eat healthy, but you can do way better than the average person and fast food on a tiny budget.

>>17408399
based healthbro

eating good food makes you have tons more energy to be able to do the things that you love , instead of feeling like a tired mess and having breakouts because of the chemical shit that accumulates from garbage food

>>17408793
In fact , eating simple few ingredient dishes are way better for the stomach , faster to digest and better for your system

>>17408416
What is with these "people" always using most exotic fruits and berries for their arguments about healthy food being expensive? Are they too stupid to realize how shit their excuses sound whenever they use organic out of season fruits for their arguments or are they too fucking sugar addicted to actually eat shit like broccoli?

>>17408399
>why don’t we shine a light on how many people die of heart disease
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>17408416
Who the fuck buys a whole pound of raspberries?

>>17409014
>I agree, but that's not their fault
When everyone in the western world has internet access, it actually has become their fault. The tools to succeed are freely available. It's their own fault they just aren't using them.

>>17410375
So the fuck what if I do? Who cares if I buy that many raspberries, I use em all, why does it fuckin bother you

>>17409168
>Which foods are relatively high in calories, relatively low in protein, but also low in carbs?
What exactly did you think the keto diet was going to be when you started it? If you want more calories you basically just end up eating sticks of butter or stupidly oily stuff like peanut butter and mayonnaise.

>>17408475
>I learned from her mistakes and I'm going to give my kids every chance thst I can to succeed, healthily and rational mindedly.
Yeah, that's what literally everybody who want to have kids (your mom include) say before actually having kids, but it's just like new years resolutions

>>17410426
That's wishful thinking. As I said in the post you replied to, people get actively prevented from cooking by their parents. I also said that even if you do manage to try and learn to cook yourself it's FUCKING difficult by yourself with literally zero help whatsoever.

>>17410469
What is difficult about cutting florets off a head of broccoli and boiling them? What is difficult about putting meat in a pan?

>>17410476
Well yes I suppose it is pretty easy to cook like shit

>>17410469
cooking does not require more help than a video easily found on the internet
people just assume it will take around the same time and taste similar and get discouraged when it inevitably takes longer and tastes worse
the problem is that people prioritize entertainment when they're off work over getting even mildly proficient at making a few dishes for themselves
they're too lazy and short sighted and many make enough money to order out all the time

>>17410503
>Thread about how easy and cheap it is to not eat junk food
>Retards like this guy make the situation worse by acting like it really is difficult to not eat junk food because basic cooking skills JUST AREN'T ENOUGH

>>17410510
You're wrong, and I suspect you're deeply underestimating just how much help you got in learning how to cook. I had to learn from literally nothing -- I was never taught how to boil an egg or fry bacon. It took me a long time of practicing before I figured out how to cook and, most importantly, how to ignore stupid parts of online recipes because I don't have the budget to buy wine or the budget to buy a blender.
>>17410522
Go and eat your boiled broccoli, anon.

>>17410531
I have a head of broccoli in the fridge right now I'll be eating tomorrow.

>Scramble six eggs in homemade butter
>Add plum tomatoes
>Handful of homemade sauerkraut
>Broccoli in a dish to one side
>Some homemade Greek yogurt
>Cup of green tea

Eggs were 40p, tomatoes were 30p, sauerkraut is like 10p lmao, broccoli is 50p, yogurt is ~40p, tea is basically free. Why is healthy food so expensive :(

>>17410537
Right, so what you're talking about is "scrambled eggs, boiled broccoli, and some shit I bought (plus home made greek yoghurt)". Most people can definitely do that. I'm talking about full meals, not the kind of thing you rustle up because you're out of ingredients or feeling lazy. Also holy shit that's a lot of scrambled eggs.

>>17410543
I eat 6+ eggs a day. I work in food retail so save an absolute fortune by snatching up use by shit at the end of the night.

>I'm talking about full meals, not the kind of thing you rustle up because you're out of ingredients
The fuck is a full meal exactly? With just potatoes, beef, and gravy, you can make a cottage pie. Stop adding 20 random ingredients and herbs to your shit and get back to basics.

>>17410531
I think you're missing the point here. It's about cooking healthier alternatives to junk food by yourself. I wasn't suggesting getting good enough at cooking to where you can be on the level of restaurant quality or having the financial situation to afford learning to budget and portion correctly is simple. I'm saying that it is very possible to make simple dishes by yourself if you have some visual reference and enough dedication to fail a few times. That's the biggest obstacle. People value their 'me time' too much to practice cooking for a few hours a week, which is all you would need to easily make a few dishes that taste good enough

>>17410547
A cottage pie would be a full meal. A plate of scrambled eggs and veg is a lazy breakfast. Also I usually buy kimchi to go with shit but I'll grab sauerkraut next time.
It's not hard to cook cheaply and healthily (or at least not-unhealthily) but it is hard to learn to cook cheaply and healthily.
>>17410548
I'm not talking about getting to restaurant quality either, just to getting to the point where your meals are tasty, most importantly tastier than frozen ready meals. It's also about getting to the point where it's just easy to throw a meal together. It's about knowing how to improvise when cooking. It's about reaching the stage where you're no longer buying ingredients like an autistic robot following a recipe you hunted down online before you went out -- now you're just buying stuff you like the look of and you know will go together.
That's fucking hard to learn by yourself. It's extremely easy to learn with someone helping you, but that's not what we're talking about.

>>17410556
>A plate of scrambled eggs and veg is a lazy breakfast
Who gives a fuck, it all comes out the same the other end.

>>17410531
After making this thread I'm kinda inspired to make a free cookbook or guide aimed at starting from literally no equipment or skills.
I'd like to write it in a way that makes it so accessible and as cheap as possible that there's little excuse to not give it a shot other than laziness.

Maybe I should try and figure out a super conservative monthly budget and write the recipe guide in a way that will allow people to slowly build up their skill set and equipment while staying within budget. Then over the course of a few months they will have most of the basics down and enough equipment to start with recipes that can help them explore and expand their skills while eating cheap and healthy.

I'd be surprised if something like this doesn't already exist.

>>17410556
I agree that the cooking intuition is something that takes much longer to acquire but I feel like if someone claims that eating healthy is too expensive and too hard they have no one to blame but themselves if they're serious. Yeah, the few dishes you can learn quickly will be more boring and less tasty then frozen shit but they will be cheaper and healthier so either keep going and get good or accept that you lack the dedication. Help is available online and the average American who complains about shit like this is probably single and works less than 40 hours a week. They have the time

>>17410598
Along with all of that ensuring that these things can be made quickly and easily too. So that there's really no excuse.

>>17410598
It might be more worthwhile to write a book on how to cook individual ingredients, rather than whole meals. The trouble with recipes for whole meals is retards think you have to follow the entire thing exactly. If you just show them what you can do with broccoli, tomatoes, potatoes, ground beef, etc, I think it could go much further. Approaching cooking from the standpoint of ingredients rather than recipes makes it much less daunting.

>>17410598
Every university extensions office in the country has already beaten you to it

>>17410622
Autism

>>17410646
What about it? Are you suffering from it? Want me to rustle you up some fries and chicky-chicky nug-nugs champ?

>>17408416
lmao I saw that same post last night and I got assmad, then I posted the link in the fatpeoplehate thread on /fit/ and they got mad too

>>17410656
People like this need to be shot.

>>17410622
That would be part of it hopefully. I watched good eats growing up at least 40 times through, no joke. I love learning about the how's and why's of cooking or recipes more than the resulting food itself.

But I would also want it to not be too verbose starting out since it's about sparking an interest in cooking and not overwhelming them with loads of up front information.

I think approaching it from extremely basic recipes with bits of information on the ingredients would be a more natural and digestible way for an absolute beginner to work with. Because teaching individual ingredients can be a bit abstract. Seeing how they work in a recipe is more concrete.
And even if people don't care to read the how's and why's parts, they would still be able to follow it as a basic recipe and end up with something to eat. Learning theory is great, but even if they gloss over those parts they still can still gain some bits confidence with the ingredients, even if they don't fully comprehend them.

It's like musicians who learn to play, but never learn to play sheet music. It's hard as fuck and it would've been easier to just learn to read sheet music, but they just barreled on ahead.

>>17410564
The fuck do you mean who gives a fuck
The whole basis of this conversation is about people not being able to cook real meals. Almost anyone can cook scrambled eggs (I couldn't actually but that's just me) so that's not what we're talking about, obviously.
>>17410598
No, me too, 100%. I've thought about making a student cooking youtube channel or something, but obviously the real point of it would be to teach you how to think about cooking when you have absolutely zero frame of reference and not much money at all.
The most important thing is that people need to SEE what the fuck "fry until the vegetables turn white" actually means. They need to SEE what golden just-toasted garlic looks like, and what browned meat looks like (as opposed to under-browned or burnt).
>>17410622
Absolutely this. It took me way too fucking long to realise that you don't have to be a retard who follows the entire thing exactly.
Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat attempted to do this but it's written by a megaponce who I can only assume pisses olive oil.

>>17410656
cool so you're a twitterposter and a redditor nice love to see it
the election was a mistake

>>17408416
>McDonald's == unhealthy
I lost the most weight by eating just McDonalds.
Counting calories in bigmacs and fries is easy as shit compared to running around snacking on different shit throughout the day.
Does get boring very quick though.

>>17408416
>made beef stew
>Costs about the same as the McDonald's meal
oh no I shouldn't buy beef when it's not on sale. maybe I can add more stuff to stretch the meat

>>17410656
mental illness

>>17410686
>twitterposter
no
>redditor
yea I lurk but I've been on the chans for way longer than you so it's ok

>>17410628
Yeah, I was aware of my university's efforts in that regard, and while they did help people, it was mainly in-person events and a website with recipes designed for the communities they were working with.

But going to things in person is asking a lot of people who don't even want to cook.

>>17410682
>teach you how to think about cooking when you have absolutely zero frame of reference and not much money at all.
Yeah, it would be super cool to do this, along with teaching them enough about the ingredients to understand the whole, not following the recipe to a T, thing.
I'd imagine it like learning to program a bit. You don't start out by writing a massive application, so why would you start out with a massive, complicated recipe?

Hello world; but for cooking

>>17410628
My university didn't, also what the fuck is an "extensions office". I looked it up and all I get is hair stylists and Office (as in Word) forums.
> captcha: PATTT

>>17408416
She can shove her M.D up her arse. Doctors are not in fallible.

>>17410656
Here's another one. Someone dared ask how people don't have time to shop for groceries, but still have time to go to the drive through.

Why are people like this? There can always be 1000 reasons not to do something, so we should just give up instead??

>>17410923
Because admitting personal failures is a big no no for some people and they need to find some bullshit excuse for their own failures.

>>17410710
I'll definitely give it to you on that point

>>17410748
This is an American Board

>>17410656
Goodness, did Sam Walton kill his children or something?

I'd cook all kinds of cool stuff if I didn't have to work 60hrs a week to afford the inflated prices of groceries now. Really all I can do now is windowshop good looking food on here and plebbit as I reheat my meal preps I waste hours prepping during my precious weekend time.

>>17412384
you should just reset and reincarnate and give life another try

>>17410923
>"I don't have the time to go shop for groceries and cook!"
>Spends minimum 10 fucking hours fucking around on the internet every day

Just can’t be assed, simple as. Glad us lazy bums make you so upset that you felt the need to write a literal essay on a laotian temple trekking symposium.

>>17410628
Yeah what the fuck are you talking about anon.
>>17410739
Exactly. I was looking for a book or something just like that when I was learning, but I couldn't find anything.

excuse for black pipo and wiggers desu.

>>17409236
>It´s green so its healthier!
This fucking meme, I swear...

>>17412609
kys frogshit

>>17412718

>be last year
>stopped drinking the high fructose corn jew after being sick of chemicals in my food
>lost over 80 pounds in a few months
>doctors completely baffled that I didn't die from the rapid weight loss

And the funny thing is that I barely even exercise. I just stopped shoving chemicals in my face, and ate more naturally.

>>17408402
cope, seethe, die obese

>>17412728
>lost over 80 pounds in a few months
how fucking fat were you?

>stop eating like trash
>do intermittent fasting for a month
>exercise each day
>still a fat fuck, lost maybe a tiny bit of weight after a month
health is a meme

>literally never been able to weigh more than 53kg
>started buying those meals-in-a-bottle everyone makes fun of
>I'm finally eating three meals a day
it werks for me

>>17408416
>but the WOMEN!!!
cringe

>>17412771
Hit 400 pounds, sadly. I was the shining example of an american who didn't understand portion control or reading ingredients, or counting calories. Doctor gave me an ultimatum beforehand: learn how to eat better, or die of heart failure.

>>17412771
>doesn't even stir it
that gave my a real visceral sick reaction
like worse than gore does

>>17412783
stop lying to yourself fattie lmao

>>17410433
I have been on a keto diet for over 3 months now, it as worked very well. However i never bothered with counting calories and shit, and recently discovered that i have eaten far less than recommended. Like in the sub 1k area.
Surely you're supposed to eat more than that? But too much protein can prevent ketosis, so i don't get how others can meet calorie demands without too much of carbs or protein

>>17408399
who cares

>>17412625
you're one of the few that actually admits to the real reason people choose to eat like garbage.
At least you own it and don't make excuses like raspberries are too expensive, so I won't eat healthy.

>>17412771
That was only four sugars.

>>17412963
>and recently discovered that i have eaten far less than recommended.
That is the secret sauce to keto. It's not about some ketosis meme, it's that the diet is so limiting that it makes it difficult to actually consume excess calories.
Unironically, don't worry about counting calories and keep doing what you're doing if you're seeing progress.

>>17409168
You're over thinking shit. Just keep your calories under 1500 and your carbs under 20. If you start feeling hunger, you're either not eating enough fat, getting insulin spikes from bad sugar alcohols (Maltodextrin, Maltose, Dextrose, Maltitol, ect.), or eating shit that claims to be low carb but isn't (some brands of modified wheat starch kick me out of ketosis, while others don't, and it seems to vary from person to person).
Also drink your ketoade, the muscle cramps from lack of magnesium and the heart palpitations from lack of potassium are a bitch.

>>17408399
I cooked some biryani for a total of 9$ and ive been eating it for 5 days lunch and dinner. all healthy vegetabl and beef, people just don't want to eat or cook traditional food that uses lots of shit-tier veggies that give you all your vitamins and minerals when you can eat instead mcdicks with a vitamin pill

>>17413114
>Unironically, don't worry about counting calories and keep doing what you're doing if you're seeing progress
>>17413122
>Just keep your calories under 1500

I dunno fellas. This goes against everything else i've read about keto. Too few calories results in hair loss, and the metabolism slows to a crawl. I might actually have hit a plateu already in that regard. I've lost 1 - 1,5 and even 2 kilos a week, but 2 weeks in a row now i've remained the same and the week before that i lost 0,5kg.
It's not that i get too hungry, it's just that i don't want to go bald at a faster pace than i need to and i don't want to fuck up my metabolism and gain a chunk of the weight again when i am happy with it.

>>17408399
Incredibly based
>>17408416
Shit like this is infuriating. Pure woke pandering from an alleged “expert”

>>17412384
>work 60hrs a week to afford the inflated prices of groceries
What kind of shitty job are you working? What % of your income goes to rent, insurance and other fixed expenditures? I'm spending less than 10% of my salary on groceries, you must be fucking up somewhere. Either in your spending or your choice of profession.

>>17410698
What do you mean I have to live within my means? I want to eat avocados and aberdeen angus at least 3 times a week.

>>17408516
Good luck ignoring women outside of a monastery.

>>17413162
>the metabolism slows to a crawl
That shit only happens if you fast for over 24 hours or regularly eat under 800 calories per day.
>Too few calories results in hair loss
Hair loss can happen with rapid weight loss on any diet yes, but said hair grows back once you up your calories. It's also the sort of shit that only happens to people loosing 5+ pounds a week. If you're loosing weight that fast, you'll notice and can up your calorie intake before it becomes an issue. I'd be more concerned with the gall stones and other issues that can crop up with such rapid weight loss than hair.

>>17410556
Your points are irrelvant, when you first start, you find a recipe, you follow it to the letter like a robot, hopefully you got a good recipe and the food tastes decent. Then rinse repeat and you get that ability to improvise.

All of this shit doesn't matter to cooking healthy and delicious meals, which literally all it needs is for you to follow a recipe which can be found in less than 10 seconds online. Being a good improvising home cook isn't a requirement to making tasty healthy food.

>>17413162
How fucking bald are you that you're worried about hairloss from weightloss?

>>17410704
It's never okay to be a Redditor, and never has been.

>>17413189
>when you first start, you find a recipe, you follow it to the letter like a robot, hopefully you got a good recipe and the food tastes decent. Then rinse repeat and you get that ability to improvise.
Yeah that's the shittiest way to learn. It's what I did and it took forever and it fucking sucked and was deeply unfun.

>>17413198
Dude, i'm 30 years old and my father went bald in his 20s. I'm not bald yet, but it has thinned over the years, and has increased recently likely due to the diet. I'm in no rush to catch up to him.

>>17413183
>That shit only happens if you fast for over 24 hours or regularly eat under 800 calories per day
I have been doing one meal a day, and i have probably been in the 800 range.
>said hair grows back once you up your calories
That's pretty much what i want. I want to be as close to 1500 as i can, without eating too much protein. So far the foods i have found is stuff like more butter, mayonaise and certain premade bearnaise sauces

>>17408399
My sister is obese and it’s because she eats take out everyday. First her excuse was because she has no time to cook. Then her excuse became that she just hates cooking.

She has two one, aged 23, the other aged 16. Both aren’t fat, but they’re picky eaters.

The 16 year old is underweight because he is a super picky eater. Won’t even drink milk, but he’ll drink a milkshake. He has like a phobia of certain food. I just think he’s autistic, even though he’s not diagnosed.

The 23 year old just has the taste buds of a child. We’ll go to IHOP and he’ll order the double chocolate chip pancakes with a french toast hot chocolate. He won’t touch any alcohol.

>>17413253
Don't worry about going bald. Not only because your health is vastly more important than your hair, but at the rate hair transplant tech is evolving and getting cheaper, basically everyone who wants it will be able to surgically get a full head of hair in the very near future.

>>17413268
This is my biggest gripe with parents who are too lazy to cook, they're basically guaranteeing that they're going to fuck up their child's palate, almost ensuring that this downward spiral of crappy eating will continue.

>>17413215
We're talking about making healthy food here dude not whats most fun etc... Also have no clue by forever it takes 2-3 times at the recipe to be able to start to improvise a little bit. Obviously i'm not suggesting to make something complex.
But easiest for example is Italian cuisine many dishes are simple, cheap, delicious and not hard to cook or improvise on.

>>17413268
>she has two one

Meant two sons

>>17409168
Cheese

>>17413319
What kind? The most common one here has 27g protein per 100g cheese

>>17408399
Post your top five staple meals to cook.

>>17413253
>without eating too much protein
Most people only perform gluconeogenesis on protein when their carb levels are dangerously low, like you're going to die levels. It's not activated by simply eating lots of protean, for most people. And if it does kick you out of keto? Just call that day a loss and start monitoring your protein more closely. Most of the keto flu symptoms people bitch about can be prevents by just drinking a shit ton of water with lots of salt, potassium, and magnesium.

>>17413377
Dal Makhani is in my number one spot right now. I spend an hour cooking and can have dinner set for at least a week. I make rice to go along with it, but that's almost all hands off so it barely adds any time to prepping dinner each night.

Pasta with some sort of sauce is an easy go-to. I typically always have a box of some shaped stuff in the pantry and a can of whole peeled tomatoes. Or if I don't have tomatoes I'll make a quick oil or dairy-based sauce. Add leftover chicken from below if I have it on hand.

Roasted chicken thighs with a side of roasted root vegetables. Sometimes if I'm feeling fancy I'll slice some brussels sprouts in half and sear them on the stove top. Can make multiple nights worth of servings.

Buddha type bowls that mainly consist of roasted root vegetables, chickpeas, chicken, kale or some other oven-wilted brassica green. On top of rice or other grain of your choosing. Add in yogurt or something if you wish. Can make multiple nights worth of servings.

If I really, really can't be assed to do anything at all, a grilled cheese with a can of tomato soup. Not really the healthiest or anything, but something I can get done in less than 10 minutes.

>>17413404
>And if it does kick you out of keto? Just call that day a loss and start monitoring your protein more closely
That's exactly what i'm trying to do, though. I want more calories but not enough protein to ruin ketosis.
>keto flu
This shit must be optional or something, because i have yet to experience it. I only get a little constipated, but that's fixed with a cup of coffe every 2-3 days or so

>>17408416
Has this lady ever heard of frozen berries? Way cheaper and more convenient than buying it fresh

>>17409134
pretty much this. When I cook myself comfort ("unhealthy") food, it is just as expensive and time consuming as "healthy" food. People who don't cook, quite unsurprisingly, have no idea.

>>17408399
Actually its very true. Whole Foods, Trader Joes that shits for gentrified hipsters
>>17408438
Europoors love daddy government

>>17413377
yellow lentil curry
chickpea-tomato-coconutmilk curry
large white beans on tomato sauce and provence herbs
oven-vegetables according to season, mmmh butternut pumpkin
couscous salad
falafel

vegan protein shake pea and rice 1:1 by weight for any additional preotein needs

ultra cheap, ultra protein, ultra healthy, remember meat was only eaten when necessary, be it in the winter because nothing was available or in the summer to get leather for the winter, hunting is dangerous, gathering less, gatherer hunterers, not hunter gatherers.

>>17408416
TV dinners destroy all her talking points:
McD's $3.25 -> TV dinner $1.25 to $3.00
McD's is fast, buying a weeks worth of TV dinners is faster. My cooking! TV dinner is 5 minutes in the microwave.

TV dinners at least attempt to make a balanced meal that isn't just sugar and carbs.

>>17413170
>I'm spending less than 10% of my salary on groceries
Rice and beans and rice and beans and rice and beans and rice and beans is boring as shit. You clearly just eat for sustenance and don't actually enjoy cooking.

>>17413507
TV meals while marginally better have the problem that they don't register as pleasure in the fast food addict's brain.

>>17408402
i know you are but what am i

>>17413507
They're more expensive than that now. Not by much, but by enough.

>>17408416
AAAAGH, I FOUND DOGSHIT FOR $0.00 ON THE SIDEWALK WHILE FOOD COSTS MONEY. I JUST HAD TO EAT IT AND NOW IM SICK. HOW CAN I BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY OWN LIFE?

>>17408416
Is this fake? I scrolled through a year's worth of tweets and didn't see it. Care to explain why you're deepdiving this lady's Twitter history?

>>17413559
I guess it depends on your location. The walmart website lists most of them at $2.82 for me.

But either way, a double cheese burger and small fry is 660kcals. Most of the hungry-man meals hover somewhere between 700-900kcals.
But even if they were identical in price and calorie content, you can't buy mcdonalds in bulk and keep it in your freezer.
One trip to the grocery store to buy a weeks worth of hungry-man will take significantly less time than going to mcdonald's every day to order dinner.

>>17413570
https://twitter.com/dremilyportermd/status/1382415281109237763

It's easier to search her handle and part of the tweet to find it rather than trying to navigate twatter.

>>17413559
You cherry picked the more expensive dinners. banquet TV dinners run around $1.40 where I live and the run of the mill Hungry man dinners are under $3.00. There are also plenty of other options like pot pies and frozen pizza that take under 15 minutes to cook.

>>17408416
The goddamn raspberries are nearly 12 dollars a pound now. In NC.

>>17408399
>j-just eat less tasty food to live longer!
nah im good lmao

>>17413664
Maybe try not eating fresh fruit that that is 6 months out of season? Apples and oranges are still fairly cheap.

>>17413664
My bad. Not the organic. OK the raspberries are fine. Still, inflation is fucking up grocery costs for most families right now.

>>17413527
I eat an average of 300 grams each of meat and veg a day, supplemented with dairy, eggs, bread and cheese. I mostly drink water and milk, sometimes a few beers on the weekend. I get an average of 150 grams of protein a day and work 40 hours a week. How are you failing to feed yourself working 60 hours?

>>17413883
Oh and throw in some other shit like fruit, peanut butter, ham, condiments and maybe some other shit I can't be arsed to list.

>eating healthy is expensive
>making healthy food takes too long
>I'm tired I just got in from work
>why have I gained 30 pounds
Take the prep-meal pill, you can make like 20 fucking meals in advance and freeze them throw in the microwave and you're ready to eat, oh wait is that too hard, let's take a look.
Time to make 1 meal: 30 minutes
Time to male 20 meals? Over 10 hours? WRONG
You just cook more at the same time and then freeze them as meals ready to go. Fat fucks should be genocided for the betterment of mankind, anyone who cannot atleast soft boil an egg should have their hands removed like a Baghdad bread thief.

>>17414359
keep your shit tips to yourself next time

>>17414374
Silence fatty.

Why are people on 4chan so mad all the time? Who gives a shit what some other people do. Take a Xanax or something

>>17414380
it's not that we're mad all the time
but when we're mad we come here
you fucking druggie faggot

>>17409140
>didn't read what I said OR the thread
>>17409151
It literally is. I could go out and buy some tinned or frozen crap and it would be way cheaper than buying fresh shit and making a healthy meal from it. I'm not defending eating like shit but I don't know why you have to be dishonest (saying it's cheaper) to make a point that generally nobody disagrees with (that you should eat fresh healthy meals).

You underestimate how clicked burgers are
>>17408438
No they can't even get the fact that the American healthcare system is utter crap.

If you are a fat fuck reading this here is a basic cooking tip.

The secret to making vegies tasty is either roasting them or adding a nice vinaigrette if you are eating them raw.
>2-3 part olive oil to 1 part acid (lemon juice, rice vinegar, etc)

>>17412783
Don't do meme intermittent fasting. You were probably still overeating when you did eat. Eat 3 meals a day but only eat a little bit for each meal. Monitor your calories. DONT SNACK. If you absolutely have to snack just do a handful of plain air popped popcorn

>>17408399
It doesn't even take that much time if you're a lazy shit about it.
>buy cheap but lean odd cut roasts
>cover them in zatarains or whatever your preference is
>slap them in the oven for a couple hours
>meat for about a week and a half
>toss some frozen green beans in a bowl with a plate on top for five minutes
>cut a slice of melon off
Badabing, badaboom, dinner in like 6 minutes, with most of the time spent waiting for stuff to cook in the microwave.

>>17414379
>you're fat if you don't eat cuckey frozen sloppa every day
lmao

>>17409039
I know you are being ironic but managing your time it's really not hard. Even if you are a lazy fuck you can save time by meal prepping. In under 1 hour I can cook 6 meals worth of food. You could cook only 2 times per week and you would have more than enough for almost the whole week. Most of the time when I cook I use my oven to do huge batches.

I always have some chicken breasts cooked and cooked rice/potatoes in my fridge. I just throw in some quick salad that takes me less than 5 minutes to prep and you have a complete meal.

>>17414444
Quads of truth.

>>17410656
The fucks wrong with rice?

>>17408409
>British cuisine.txt

>be last night
>Gf makes zuckini farci with meat
>20 minutes to prepare
>45min in the oven
>Done

You have like hundreds of other recipes that takes less time and dont fuck with your health while being cheap.

>>17414394
You gotta take the from-scratch pill bro. You can make servings of food for literally less than $0.50 easy.

>>17408622
Idiot

>>17409014
Every first world country has had free libraries for decades and now everyone has access to the internet. When do the excuses stop? When are you and your worthless retard family going to off yourselves for the greater good?

People don't cook because
>Their parents never taught them how to cook
or
>They're an ultra poorfag and have no stove
You get really desperate when your apartment tells you you can't have a fucking burner plate. People bought them anyway. Even the fire inspectors were willing to let it slide so long as it was out of sight.

>>17408399
Triple pack of frozen pizzas is $2.59
Each pizza has 1000 calories and takes 15 minutes of waiting time plus 1 minute of "prep time".
All of that time and money I saved over making "healthy" meals I invest in things I enjoy.
Keep seething, trannoid.

>>17413559
That's why you stuff your freezer when they're on sale. Safeway has the regular hungry man 4 for $10 regularly where I live.

>>17415720
You deserve poverty and poor cuisine for living in such a cucked situation.

>>17415811
What sort of things do you invest in with all your saved time and money?

>>17408409
Sweet !

>>17408642
It really is delicious .

>>17408416
So retarded. Raspberries aren’t a staple food unless you’re a bird. Also so disingenuous choosing the organic raspberries. As if someone poor is going to give a shit about buying organic.

>>17415992
What's the sip, microwavebro?

>>17416001
Unsweetened tea and lemon juice .

>>17416013
I should've remembered from the last time you mentioned that.
Sounds kino.

>>17409039
I'm aware you're being sarcastic, but yeah, I spent all fucking day working my ass off. I don't want to do more work for a meal I'll finish in 5-10 minutes.

>>17414495
>Even if you are a lazy fuck you can save time by meal prepping. In under 1 hour I can cook 6 meals worth of food. You could cook only 2 times per week and you would have more than enough for almost the whole week. Most of the time when I cook I use my oven to do huge batches.
This is the ultimate fucking submission to your job or whatever. You're at the point that work has taken over so much of your life, that you're eating the same old slop all week. Like, think about it, you can't even enjoy the simple act of eating. May as well just have a nutrient paste.

>>17409102
This is the dumbest shit I have ever heard. The 10 minutes "thinking about it," 5 minutes "working themselves off the couch" is called relaxing. 10 minutes to "get ready" to go to the drive thru? The fuck? Don't pretend this same shit wouldn't apply to going to the grocery store. I live in a city in the southwest, and my closest fast food places are basically 2-3 minutes away. The drive thru takes 60 seconds. You have a poor concept of time.

>>17416116
There's an endless number of excuses to not do the difficult things.
But those are usually the things that matter.

>>17410476
I'm not that guy, but I didn't learn how to boil or heat shit in a pan until I was 12 and had a home economics class. Even still, that's the extent of my culinary training.

>>17410510
Knowing where to get the basics and what to buy is not generally simple. There are few YouTube videos explaining the very basics of what tools you should have. Home Ec was important for me, because someone literally told me "this is a pan, you put it on the stove to do X." This board has a horrible habit of thinking that everyone knows what the tools are already.

>>17410598
I support your approach, anon. That's one of the few helpful thoughts I've heard on /ck/ in a long time.

>>17416126
Life is short. Seek happiness instead of difficult shit that you think makes you better than someone else. My lawyer buddy whines up and fucking down about how he can't eat this or that, has to cook because it's what he "should" do, and that his soon-to-be-wife is making him do shit but he's just at the age where he "needs to be an adult and settle down."

Guaranteed that all of his hard work is going to lead to a divorce where she takes half of his shit.

>>17416159
Most of folks had at least one competent parent to show them what a pan is and how to heat it, etc. I realize that's presumptuous I'm today's times but it didn't used to be.

for $20 at costco you can get 6 romains, a giant bowl of cherry tomatoes, 3 cucumbers and a huge bucket of feta
thats salad for at least a week

>>17415997
It says non organic though
what a fucking meaningless statement anyway though, all raspberry is organic.

>>17408438
Trump put that cap on asthma medicine prices, that's a start I guess

I wish I wasn't poor and retarded and dependent on other retarded poor people. I bet it feels nice to not eat like shit all the time.

>>17414481
>implying mcdonalds isn't cuckey frozen sloppa

>>17417655
>implying the only options are cuckey frozen sloppa or cuckey frozen sloppa
90 iq tier

>>17413685
Ahh yes, because most families subside on a diet of 100% raspberries...

>>17413404
Not who you’re replying to, but is eating a lot of protein in general bad for you?

I ask because I had my wisdom teeth pulled last week and was living on Siggi’s yogurt and peanut butter+banana smoothies to stay satiated. A 3/4 cup of Siggi’s vanilla yogurt has 18 grams of protein

>>17414380
I fucking wish I had xanax.

I lost weight eating beans and rice for every meal. I feel dizzy and have painful gas all the time. But at least I save money.

>>17408399
Cool story bro.

>>17408399
Lefties want to force you to
>wear an ineffective mask
>stand 6 feet away
>shut down local businesses
>take away your job
>take an experimental vaccine
>take a dozen experimental booster shots
Yet not ONE will try to educate you on a healthy diet. The ones most at risk against covid are the ones with a poor diet and a lack of exercise, but no. We MUST force everybody and this society to adhere to government regulations. Keep eating your McDonald's, Doritos, Mountain Dew. But if you DARE choose not to take the jab, then YOU are the problem.

>>17408399
I don't get how people say eating fast food is cheap in the first place.

>>17415936
Programming, reading ancient literature, composing classical music

>>17418164
fatty LARP

>>17418221
Those do sound like enjoyable things, desu.

>>17408409
You can have the brown liquid in my toilet
I don't need it anymore

>>17408399
Whatever you eat, make sure to eat 1 can of these a day, add olive oil, peper and salt. Thank me later

>>17418599
Do they make you poop good?

>>17418599
Based and legumepilled

>>17418599
>canned

>>17418599
Enjoy your manganese toxicity.

>>17408416
Why don't socmed fags stay there?

>>17408416
All this tells me is your overly emotional a d react to emotional arguments without thinking about their validly.

As an example, she’s comparing an entire cartoon a fruit, with multiple servings, to fast food.

>>17408514
Your a retard anon

>>17418599
It is the SIKH's way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZmYx5DYGzc

>>17408606
How is this healthy?

I feel like you could just eat plain black beans, brown rice broccoli florets and seasoned chicken forever and live to be 100

>>17418155
no you just piss it out. protein sickness is what people call it when you're in the wild and only eat lean meats e.g. rabbit, deer, so you have no access to fat mainly, plus being deficient in several vitamins and minerals

>>17408399
>Why don't we shine light on this pandemic as well?
Because it puts billion dollar mega conglomerates in the crosshairs.

>>17420323
Sikh cooking can be tasty, but it's incredibly unhealthy, especially for your heart. So much butter and fat.

>>17421501
Couldn't have said it better myself, Anon. Honestly, some of these people in this thread are idiotic and don't seem to care too much about healthy eating. I can no longer eat the fast foods or consume sugary drinks like I used to last year, it makes me feel shitty and tired and I'm moving away from that more and more.

>>17413377
Chilli with nachos or enchiladas or rice (i make a big batch and eat it throughout the week in different ways)

Roasted Cauliflower and Chicken curry, with cashew sauce with daal, rice or garlic naan, if i can be fucked, onion bhaji too

Spaghetti bolognese

lasagna (i use the leftover sauce)

Halloumi/chicken wraps (the easiest meal in the world, its done in 15 minutes start to finish, SHUT UP single mothers)

stir fry veg with crispy tofu or chickenk, satay sauce, noodles (another thing that can be done in 15 minutes)

i make these meals in big batches, eat them for 4 days in a row and move onto the next one. this is a very economical way to cook in terms of saving time and money, as you can use all the perishable ingredients without having to dream up random things to do with the remainder. this also minimises trips to the grocery store. i know exactly what i'm going to cook before i write a shopping list.

>>17408416
This is so stupid.
I used to work at a McDonalds, and I know for a fact there is a bit you can do to make your meal healthier.
One of which is to change out and subsitute various add ons to your meal, like getting apples instead of fries. Or just get a unsweetened tea or coffee instead diet soda since aspertane is worse for your body than normal hfcs due to it being a mild neurotoxin.

Also who eats a pound of rasberries? It is also full of sugar. Vegetables and low sugar high fiber fruit is what you should be eating for healthy food.

>>17408399
>It's an excuse to eat like shit. It's to absolve any responsibility of being unhealthy.
You've described most leftists. They don't want accountability. It's their entire fucking world view.

>>17413507
God I swear the last time I had a hungry man, I think the chicken had marburgs disease and I felt like I was eating its tumors.

Eating healthy is gay.
Cooking food at home =/= eating healthy
I fry a shit ton of food at home. Croquettes, chips, fries, yuca, pork, chicken, etc.

>>17421511
I eat healthy 5-6 days out of the week, and then some days I'll scarf down a whole jumbo pizza and some real sugar soda. Everything is fine in moderation. Most fatties just lack self-control and don't know any better.

>>17408445
except that foodstamps doesn't pay for McDonald's lol

>>17412625
Like >>17413100 said, I won't hate on you for simply admitting you just don't care.

>>17412721
Don't worry fren, people like >>17412718 are lousy redditors who can't be bother to give personal accountability a try.

>>17409196
>Woman moment.
Fuck off misogynyfag

>>17413507
being near a hungry man box sends me into a depressive spiral. I can't explain it. I think they emanate a destructive energy. Beware.

>>17423043
> the red eye, george
> what?
> you can't go outside. the glare of the red eye will destroy you
> that's just a conspiracy theory, kramer. listen to this anti-eyer. trust the science, kramer! i bet you think the world is flat, too

>>17408399

>>17422686
ywnnaw moment

People who gloat about knowing basic life skills like cooking are on the same level of annoying as the people who say "eating healthy is expensive".

>>17418192
>muh sports teams

>>17415065
people don't know how to season/prepare rice

>>17415992
>do men really live like this.jpg

>>17423166
who are you quoting?

>>17423116
Fail

>>17408399
Dubs of truth. Eating out (not fast food, which should never be consoomed) should be a once in awhile thing. Cooking your own food just tastes way better

>>17423763
based and moderationpilled

>>17413507
>400 calories
kek not even a child-sized meal.

>>17408399
who are these people anyway and why are you wasting your time with them?

>>17425597
OP here, this is the best take. I've been working at disconnecting from these types of things and to not concern myself with problems I have no personal control over.

>>17409168
nuts

How the FUCK do I eat healthy if I want to build muscle and lose weight then?

>>17418599
I fucking love garbanzos

>>17426043
There's a difference between eating healthy to survive and eating 4k calories to put on luxury muscle you fucking retard. Of course eating twice the amount of food is going to drive up the price.