/ck/ - Food & Cooking

anxiety isnt real

A bullet.

>>17378832
ravioli

>>17378832
I went vegan after my anxiety got bad. Just made me feel better mentally to reduce overall suffering. You can also take meds, but I guess that's not considered food.

>>17378846
i really hate overall suffering, my doctor is so good at reducing overall suffering. thank you based doctor.

>>17378862
my doctor sucks at it. I have no idea why people respect doctors.

>>17378846
Yikes.

>>17378832
Depends on why you are depressed and anxious. If you are a fat fuck who eats fast food, smokes, drinks, etc then changing your diet would help.
If you are already in tip top shape then perhaps diet alone won't help.
1 advice is to go out into the sun. Sunbathing can have a very calming effect.

>>17378839
It is, but how you handle it differs. I get it sometimes, but instead of freaking out I shut my emotions down now and the only thing I can feel within that period is anger if prompted - feels like you've had too much caffeine and are just going through the motions without much thought.

on the other hand, I've had severe alcohol withdrawal/mild drug psychosis where the sound of a fucking vacuum cleaner or loud car would send me into a sweat, heart palpitations and tunnel vision/body sensations. The problem with the internet era is that everyone's too quick to self diagnose and seek attention, so any minor thing is ''Oh my god I'm having an anxiety attack'' when in reality, it's just that they've never had anything too negative or troublesome in their life so they just exaggerate and bitch. Internet hypochondria is real, and it's polluted 99% of the women that use the internet.

If you think anxiety is fake, then I hope you never have a real anxiety attack - because I thought it was fake too until I finally had one, and it freaked me the fuck out thinking I was about to die or something. Feel free to hit that subscribe button below.

>>17378832
poopy stuff
codeine, morphine, tramadol and so on
Stay away from benzos*, I've heard that quiting this shit is beyond hard.

*I mean, on your own. If your doc says you want them, take them.

>>17378915
>>17378915
restlessness, nervousness, guilt, anticipation of strenuous effort and other feeling associated with mental processes related to burden are not anxiety. in the majority of cases where people describe their emotional state as anxiety they not willing to confront the cause. How is it that some who has taken nearly 2000mg of pure caffeine describes the simulated impending doom they are feeling as the same feeling a alcoholic gambling addict describes when they lose the portion of their income they should have budgeted for their families groceries that week.

>the i hope you never have a real anxiety attack
i won't because it's made up bullshit by people who lie to themselves

>>17378938
Yikes. I forget people like this who know nothing about the brain still spout so much shit.
Anxiety attacks feel like a heart attack. They're far from not real.

>>17378949
so you're a based brain knower who has real heart attacks regularly?

>>17378938
Call it whatever you want. How are those feeling not "real"?

>>17378958
you should do an experiment. next time you have a anxiety heart attack, ask someone to punch you really hard in the kidneys and stomach and see how long you feel "anxious"

Alcohol, McDonalds, and a loaded pistol

If you have a mood disorder, you might want to talk to a doctor, as food alone may not be the most appropriate treatment. That said, eggs and bacon every morning makes me feel like I can get anything done.

I just drink a shit ton of vodka. Everytime anxious feelings come up? Have a doubleshot. Wake up in a sweat from anxiety nightmare? Have a doubleshot and go back to sleep. Its worked pretty well so far

>>17378832
You can't eat away your sorrows

>>17379003
Eww, Christ. Didn't he lie about wine and fish or something?

>>17379009
Eww, Atheists. Wash your hands before talking to me.

>17378967
You didn't answer the question.
As to your "experiment", let's say I have a hiccup, then my friend hid in the closet then jumps out and scare me and I got distracted by the whole experience and the hiccup goes away. Does that mean the hiccup wasn't real?
What exactly does this experiment supposed to prove?

Le diet and exercise will never fix childhood truamas

>>17379014

>>17379014
God is great. Semitic prophets are liars.

>>17379015
>>17378967

>>17379015
today i learnt anxiety is literally real heart attacks and hiccups

>>17379042
Keep avoiding.
I wasn't the one who said anxiety attack feels like a heart attack. I've never had a heart attack before so I don't know what it feels like. I have had anxiety attacks though. If I goes to a doctor and he told me anxiety isn't real then I know he's a quack. I don't know why you're trying to act like you're the voice of authority on the matter when it's quite clear you're a moron.

>>17379054
As for the hiccup comment, it can't be any more foolish than claiming that a punch to the kidney can cure sickness of the brain.

>>17379054
>anxiety isn't real
This is what abusers tell their victims to make themselves *feel* better about being an abuser

>>17378967
I'm the person you originally responded to, I've only had a few anxiety attacks and they were exactly as I explained. It's an atrocious feeling, and as I said in my post I think pretty much everyone that says they suffer from it is lying.

The thought that it ''wasn't real'' didn't mean shit to me as I was mentally breaking down and reverted to a helpless, scared sense of self. You're not only wrong, but you're also a retard. I'm just trying to tell you that it is real.

Also >>17378949
is right, it genuinely does feel like you're possibly having a heart attack due to the sudden increase in bpm, sweats, fatigue and disorientation.

>>17379054
you want to talk about hiccups or anxiety? i guess doctors are quacks and I'm a moron then because i am not going answer your lead in questions. would you like some ssri's and validation that your lack of accountability for reality is a tangible disease?

>>17379071
Take your meds schizo

>>17379067
this is an anonymous conversation narcissism isn't relevant while we are exploring different opinions

>>17379071
And come out of the closet. Ur not fooling anybody anymore

>>17379083
>narcissism isn't relevant
Sounds like something an abusive Narcissist would say

>>17379088
no u

>>17378839
You way of spelling rational is funny

>>17379071
I don't know if this is some good cop bad cop act you learnt in your psychology course at community college. But telling someone who had anxiety attacks that anxiety isn't real doesn't help. Maybe you can try to explore why they are feeling this way and help them work through those problem. But your tough love act doesn't work and is pretty cringe.
You want to talk about anxiety or punches to the stomach?

>>17379083
Ahahahaha keep telling yourself that. Seems like you lack self awareness for some kind of internet shrink. Didn't you know that's a pretty big no no?

>>17379099

>>17379071
Are you a gay closeted russian?
Esl tourist

Or Indian?

>>17378915
Based Varg poster

>>17379110
You're not smart enough to be a doctor. I'm dumb as a brick and I can outsmart you like out maneuvering a roundabout.

>>17378832
>depression
You could try valerian
>anxiety
You could try hawthorn

Either under the form of strong infusion or extract pills. Valerian is typically prescribed at 900-1200 mg of extract a day. Hawthorn I don't know but you can look it up. If it doesn't get better after a couple weeks of those, seek help.

>>17379095
I misspelled 'your' but you got it I guess
Something being not rational doesn't make it not real

I believe reading this thread gave OP even more depression qnd anxiety. Well done, lads

>>17378832
Tortilla soup

>>17379394
Penguin pot pie

>>17378839
I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder, panic disorder and depression when I was younger.
I've worked through these issues now.
Anxiety manifested as a physical pain response, I would immediately need to go to the bathroom as I would either throw up or shit myself if I didn't, and I'd get extreme cramps.
I used to have panic attacks that would last hours just being stuck in a bathroom crying and screaming over the most mundane shit. That was very much a real thing.

I went to therapy and got over it, in a way saying "anxiety isn't real" works, just simply don't be stressed, realize there isn't any danger and you'll be fine. But for people with damaged brains, this answer doesn't work, they will continue to freak the fuck out regardless.

>>17378832
To answer OPs question, a balanced diet is obviously the best. Avoid stuff that plays on your dopamine receptors so that you can attain natural dopamine through everyday tasks. This includes avoiding sugars, and balancing your carbs, meats and salt. Actually cook for yourself so you accomplish something, and don't go overboard on anything.

>>17379476
>I've worked through these issues now
What was the root cause?

>>17379535
Childhood trauma was the major one, my father got cancer when I was 8, died when I was 12, he went pretty much completely insane and abused us a little bit, not violent but was psychotic and on a shit load of meds. My mother became an alcoholic for a couple years after, was somewhat abusive.
I love them both very much, my Mum is much better now, I understand my Dad went crazy due to his condition and that wasn't normal.

I also experienced some bullying in school, which contributed, and got addicted to video games and porn young, which also contributed to my avoidant, stay at home behavior. Why do hard work at school when you can jerk off and play video games?

My Dad exhibited similar anxiety symptoms as well when I knew him, when going to family events he'd sit on the toilet for a while, sometimes until we were late.

A cocktail of trauma, genetics and addiction I guess, maybe some NEET here can tell me about how I'm all wrong and I should've just manned up.
Idc I'm better now, got a job and I'm going to Uni, that's what matters. There's my lives story.

>>17379592
>Childhood trauma was the major one
Understandable

Sardines for a healthy dose of omega 3s, st John's wort as a supplement, and plenty of carbs of your choosing to make sure your body is at least getting enough calories to run.
Otherwise a generic balanced diet is fine.

>>17379535
>>17379611

>>17379626
Did the jannies or the op delete that post?

>>17379631
OP did, I thought it was silly to post my entire life story here when it could be answered with just
>childhood trauma
And also off topic

>>17379631
>>17379637
4chan X is a thing so they can just see it with that if they want.

>>17379637
Thanks for sharing tho. Most ppl say they had peachy childhoods while also displaying symptoms of childhood trauma

I'm literally the only member of my family who hasn't gone to a psychologist and I eat junk food every day

>>17378846
Veganism explicitly causes anxiety and depression. Guy who made the pritican diet killed himself after all.

>>17378832
The better is question is what you should NOT eat to abpid mood disprders. The number one is always refined sugars and fast processed food.

>>17378953
Clearly you've never hyperventilated in public.

>>17378832
>what is the best diet
The answer is always Mediterranean

>>17378832
organic meats, eggs, fish, butter... animal-based products

>>17378832
A lead capsule applied at high speeds between the eyes

>>17380703
keto outperforms your fake Med diet

>>17379014
>you're le atheist if you don't suck off the christian god!
christcuck cope lmao

>>17381570
Lmaooo, imagine actually thinking this. Enjoy indulging in your fats, lipids and nuts.

>>17378832
Here's a super good video on exactly that subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkqZW_sBPTg

The TLDW is eat meat and eggs, avoid sugar flour and vegetable oils. Watch the video though.

>>17378832
Fasting and exercise.

>>17378978
It works till it stops working. Then you realize you are alcohol dependent. Then the horror begins.

>>17378840
sbpb

>>17379649
yeah

>>17378839
We can literally record it's effect on the human body. It's a survival response you fucking mormon

>>17379014
All I know is that out of all the people that sexually molested me as a child. 2 were "good christians" that went to church at least twice a week and 0 were atheist. Why do you guys have so many kiddy diddlers? It's like being a christian is a self report for pedophilia

>>17378846

>>17382128
>another low-carb propaganda video from the keto cultists

>>17379003
There's only 2 sexes, debt is for jews, and people who need a fear of eternal torture to be decent are actual faggots. Stay mad.

>>17378832
Fish and dark greens have had the best effect on general mood from what I've seen, though other food may have more or less of an effect depending on the person and where their body is at. Some people experience euphoria eating steak/oysters due to deficiencies in stuff like iron and zinc. Blueberries are good for brain health and can help mitigate oxidative stressors, like your image says. Cordyceps can help with mood elevation and alertness, and ashwaganda is taken everywhere for stress and anxiety, but it's good to test those first to see if what they offer is what you're actually lacking.

>>17379003
>>17379014
lol, atheisharts are so easily triggered

>>17384042
Thanks man, will make my next meal some fresh salmon + broccoli & spinach + oysters + blueberry shake and hope for my life to get better!

>>17378938
You're genuinely fucking stupid and have no idea what you're talking about. I've had one panic attack in my life, and I had my girlfriend call 911 because my limbs (not extremities) were going numb and my heartrate was easily over 200 bpm. Of course I felt like a massive retard once I got out of the car and starting walking around and i immediately starting feeling better, but holy fucking shit were those symptoms real. And I'm typically the type to go "it's all in your head calm down" to everything.

>>17384051
Interesting combo for one meal if you're being serious. Either way good luck, bro. Diet is a big part of health, but remember it's only going to help so much if other shit in your life is fucked. Get sleep, stay hydrated, get positive mental and social stimulation, lift or at least walk regularly, don't work yourself to death, &c. It's also more of a consistency thing, like lifting. One random blueberry shake is only going to do so much.

>>17379859
Correlation causation.
Depressed people are more likely to become vegan cause they see the truth more readily.

Whats mackerel taste like? I've only ever had salmon and tilapia as far as fish goes. I like salmon quite a bit but I don't get it often.

>>17378832
Get an appropriate amount of sleep. Eat the carbs (not all the carbs, but some), this time of year, eat warm meals - not all sloppa, but lots of sloppa. Do what you can to get all the nutrients you need. multivitamins, a variety of meats and veggies, fruit, dairy if you can handle it. Get some sunlight, get your vitamin C. Eat the occasional curry (cinnamon, turmeric, chilies and ginger all seem to perk me up - not sure if it's because I like the flavour and colour or because they're actually doing something). Don't give in to tubs of ice cream and pizza all the time, but don't completely shut them out until you feel better. Get some exercise - cardio and a bit of intense lifting.

Treat yourself like a human being, and you stand the best chance of feeling like one.

>>17384276
Or are they depressed because they see the truth?

>>17384182
did you ever work the underlying cause? out of curiosity do you take any regular medication or have any diagnosed illnesses?

>>17378832
Dark chocolate, anything with omega 3s and high vitamin D. Less sugar and less red meat. Don’t fall for the red meat cured my depression meme, red meat is inflammatory and will make it worse just like pic related got depressed after the diet

>>17379122
We're out here.
>>17384412
It's not about underlying causes or stressful situations, my life is literally just dealing with those and the anxiety attack was sudden and unprompted. It can literally hit you for no reason despite anything in your life, and it's a bit scary. It WILL fuck you up if you ever get it.

>>17384604
If you're chronically in pain from inflammation, I could see that. If you have no such health issue, the occasional bit of red meat really shouldn't do any harm. An all red meat diet is likely to cause problems eventually, but that's true of most extreme diets.

>>17378832
curry for every meal.

>>17378832
a balanced diet

>>17384607
>and then one day, for no reason at all

>>17378832
I was going to say meat but I see it's already number one.

>>17384752
Yes. I'll wake up tomorrow in serious drama and ignore it, but anxiety hits when there's nothing happening.

>>17384412
I honestly think it rubbed off on me from my gf, because she'd constantly be fighting off panic attacks. I also had a completely insane day up until that point, including running out of adhd meds, replacing it with a shitton of caffeine that ended up giving me food poisoning because I had an online exam, which i had to walk away from halfway through so i didn't shit myself. I then when to the gym later with my gf and went extra hard since i was so stressed, which i think was what triggered it.

tl;dr: i was off my meds, had an incredibly stressful day, then completely gassed myself at the gym.

>>17384607
Glad to see it

>>17384760
are meat eaters generally in better mood?

>>17378832
Anything high in niacin. Niacin is a positive allosteric modulator for GABA which is exactly the same mechanism by which alcohol and benzos inhibit feelings of anxiety.

>>17385849
Just say B3 you fucking retard faggot.

>>17378832
Microdosing shrooms.

>>17382387
Yeah booze works great, until you can’t go a few hours without a drink.

>>17378832
Oh great another fucking pseudoscience thread, hooray.

>>17384276
Or maybe it's because their already hormonally imbalanced nutrient deficient selves are further depleted by that shitty diet.

>>17384042
Yeah, don’t listen to the retarded fundie. The brain needs nutrients to function properly, and that includes dopamine and serotonin production

>>17378832
Get those Omega-3s in

>>17379003
If only I delude myself into believing jewish fairy tales then I an be happy!

>>17378832
Exercise, sleep and water.

>>17379110
Enjoy your autism

>>17378832
My brain feels a little happier when I drink coffee with some cream in it. That could just be the good feeling of drinking something hot during cold weather, though. It doesn't cure anything but I feel good for that moment.

>>17387285
maybe youre not getting enough fat in the diet. the brain is mostly fat (dry weight)

>>17387285
>when i consume stimulants, I feel good!
>idk why though maybe it's what temperature i have it at
Why does cooking apparently attract these low IQ wretches?

>>17387299
Maybe so.
>>17387538
You're the one trying to act like hot drinks in the wintertime isn't something that's enjoyed thoroughly the world over and that couldn't possibly add to me being happy for that moment.

>>17378832
daily vitamin d3

>>17387772
>You're the one trying to act like hot drinks in the wintertime isn't something that's enjoyed thoroughly the world over and that couldn't possibly add to me being happy for that moment.
Please quote me where I stated any of this, brainlet.

Oh wait, you can't, because I didn't. Take your exceptionally shitty strawman and cram it up your downie ass, then try again in 3 or 4 months. That should be enough time for your smooth brain to put together something resembling an intelligent thought. Or don't and just reply with something completely fucking retarded again, your choice.

>>17378832
Unironically it's fasting. You may say why would I add starvation to my list of problems but there has been tons of research on fasting and it’s effect on mood and depression

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1zH5dbzGm4Y

So many religions and cultures have practiced fasting for thousands of years too

>>17388582
Fasting only makes me weak, low down, and desperate. How is that for curing depression kek

I see a lot of people taking Lion's Mane mushroom supplements now for mood. Never tried that, but I just tried fresh lion's mane for the first time and it was a revelation. Where has that shit been my whole life?

>>17387782
this, it makes a huge difference especially if you're a shut in
caffeine helps too

>>17388582
/thread

go on a water fast from Mo-Fr and eat on saturday, start of with some kind of broth and an hour later take a proper meal. You will ask yourself why you feel so good.

Everyone who says fasting is retarded is an npc and ngmi

The problem with fasting is that its benefits quickly wear off when you break the fast. At least for me. Fall 2020 I fasted two weeks. Never felt this consistently good in years. I then ate keto for a while and my mood started to get less good. Then I ate normally and it got worse and worse. Turned out I needed meds and probably have for twenty years.

>>17378846
Kill yourself then we won't have to collectively suffer your pathetic existence

>>17390027
Did you just ask him to kys to lower your own suffering?

>>17378839
haven't had your first panic attack yet, i see

>>17378832
>places yarmulke on head

Just take more pharmaceuticals!

>>17379014
Who is ready to step up to the plate?

>>17378839
>>17378832

>>17390985
imagine pushing 40 years old and you still can't find a mate. maybe rethink your stupid Femoid Dating Strategy, you dumb bitch.

>>17391018
Many sad such cases

>>17390985
>the lady will be having the house white mixed with rohypnol and take your time I shant be tipping

>>17391073
kek

>>17391091
The real question is why are trade workers sex addicts

>>17390992
Why is this butterface so angry? Rough childhood?

>>17391132
>>17391126
This is how lowly they think of men:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHJPJn3GExM

>>17390992
i can feel the rage and cope radiating from that pic

>>17391091
The construction dudes could also get a gf.

>>17391169
The eyes don't lie

>>17391091

>>17391195
She doesn't know that she's describing the role of a wife

>>17391165
I love how Narcissists always have to say *right* after making a statement (opinion)

>>17391202
Literally loled

>>17391202
saved

>>17391199
you can tell every muscle in her face is tensed up and shes trying her hardest to look normal
if i saw that face in the woods i'd be 100% convinced i met a skinwalker

>>17391255
I feel like most ppl are skinwalkers. And/or mindless robots

>>17391222
Stupid bitch

>>17391267

>>17391222
checked

>>17391286
Holy shit...

>>17391308

>>17391292

>>17391317
It don't matter who she dates. Her Narcissism will never allow her to like him

>>17391320

>>17391320
>Mr right
>Aka
>Nobody's good enuff for me

>>17391346

>>17391358
>Hypersexual
> And Other Symptoms of c.s.a.
Maybe she should talk to a professional

>>17391387
>c.s.a.
What is that?

>>17391458
Childhood
Sexual
Abuse

>>17391320
I honestly feel bad for her. She was roped into this by all-pervasive libtard culture.

>>17390985
What the fuck? This video honestly deeply upsets me. What is wrong with women? Why are they like this? Holy fucking shit.

>>17378832
Modified Mediterranean Diet is the one a lot of researchers are into. Pic related.

>>17391577

>>17391464
>>17378832

>>17382973
were you asking for it?
what were you wearing?

>>17391864
Not him but imagine thinking little kids(boys) in diapers are sexy. Wtf is wrong with you ppl?

After having finally had a gf for 2 years, I can soundly conclude that thinking of women as large children is the only way to deal with them successfully. This thread has helped to confirm this. They are overly emotional, unstable, and lack rational though. These are all generalizations of course, but in the majority cases this is true.

>>17392499
In the majority of cases it's true for men too. Look at how stupid and biased the average dude is. Just look at this thread ffs

>>17391592
This seems like a very "normal" balanced diet, nothing special in particular, with a bit more focus on fish, olives and veggies available in the Mediterranean. And common-sense advice to avoid processed, fast, and sugary food. I like it, but would this really help low mood people? I feel like happinness of people living there is more because of the constant sunshine and lots of Vitamin D they receive.

>>17393246
It avoids specific pitfalls, like hypoglycemic crashes after sugar, excessive drinking, eating no fruit and vegetables, eating quick-release carbs instead of wholegrains, not getting enough fibre, eating too little oil (including nuts etc.), or not eating oily fish.

That said, you're completely correct when you say it's a normal balanced diet with few surprises. The main benefit for us is that it's well-specified and well-studied. If you already eat healthy it won't do as much.

>>17378832
Unironically nicotine and raw egg shakes. If you don't like tobacco get those tobacco free nicotine pouches that are everywhere now

>>17378832
>What is the best food/diet for curing
salt

>>17378832
I knew pistachios and nuts in general are good for balancing your mood

>>17378832
Xanax

>>17378832
If there is literally a "chemical imbalance" and you're not just justifiably upset about how fucked everything is, then it is probably your gut bacteria. 90% of serotonin is produced by sporing bacteria which you pretty much only get from fresh homegrown root veggies. So basically eat dirt.

>>17394722
benzos are not good for depression.
they are great for anxiety though, till you have to stop taking them.

>>17389976
>>17390013
If you want my method for curing depression. It was fully fasting on Monday and Friday then the other days it was stop eating after 6 PM and before 9AM. This does not mean I ate whatever I wanted during the 9 AM to 6 PM time period, it meant getting all the nutrition I needed. I also alternated from meat to fruit and nuts. One day it was meat and the other day it was fruit and nuts. I never did the fast for days in a row because that is dangerous and can even mess up your metabolism. Plus, this is something you want to keep doing for months not fast for a few days and never go again

I also heavily decreased my sugar intake and any sugar I got was from fruits only mostly.