/ck/ - Food & Cooking

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>>17280771

>>17280792
Should be an Ardbeg bottle

Try to justify paying more than the price of Cutty Sark for Scotch. That's right, you can't.

was going to post pic related in the last real thread in response to the other Anon posted his xmas haul, but it died.

>>17280798
closest thing i got

>>17280771
>>what're ya drinkin?
Sazerac Rye while watching football
>>what're ya buyin?
>>what're ya tryin?
Been getting more into Irish whiskeys. Purchased a bottle of Jameson Black Barrel earlier in the month. Not bad.

>>17280771
>what're ya drinkin?
nothing tonight
>what're ya buyin?
bought OGD 114 this week and tried it last night, it was pretty good and very spicy but tasted pretty young
>what're ya tryin?
Gonna try some Benromach 10 yr and some Garrison Brothers tomorrow

>>17280792
>>17280841
Why do you hate whiskey so much?

>>17280837
Just picked up the glenallachie 15. I’m hoping for some nice sherry and dried fruits. How does it compare to the old revival? Will i be disappointed?

>>17280801
Based. I never had the 12, just the bottom shelf one and it tastes like candy.

>>17280771
Bulleit is by far my favorite whiskey, and it's not a close comparison. It's the one that introduced me to all those "notes" and "hints" of flavors that I heard people talk about, but had never tasted before. Every sip is nostalgia to better times, and it's never a bad buzz. As for what I'm drinking? Shitass vodka mixed with a sip, because it's cheap. The Monster was more than half the cost of the fifth lol. As for right now, I ain't buyin or tryin shit, just gettin drunk, and then going to reheat some stuff and fry some tortillas in a little bit for round two of today's tacos.

>>17281542
If you can get your hands on it, try Writers Tears. I had the same epiphany with that one. Bulliet is a solid bourbon, lots of rye on it.

>>17281733
>Writers Tears
Looks like it's available in most of my local places, I'll certainly check it out next time I've got a few bucks to throw around. Thanks for the suggestion, anon.

Just opened picrel. Yes, neck pour and all, but it's not great. 6, maybe 6.5 at best. Good nose, no finish.

>>17281542
>Bulleit is by far my favorite whiskey
Wait until you try non-shitty whiskey. It'll be an epiphany.

Old reliable

JUST DRANK A FULL BOTTLE OF FIREBALL. THOUGHTS?

>>17281767
timestamp your "good" stuff, before you come here to brag about being a faggot

>>17281779
It's honestly the least shitty of flavored whiskeys. It's not super sweet, syrup pretending to be whiskey. It's not way too weak to be considered alcohol. It's a dern good balance, and pretty good when mixed with other stuff.

>>17281787
Pick one, dumbcunt. Filename is timestamp.

>>17280771
Maker's Manhattan has got me more free drinks from bartenders than any other cocktail....

what are the best american whiskeys i can get in australia under $150 aud?
if you want to try something from australia i highly, highly, highly recommend checking out our natural wines

>>17281797
OOOOHHHH, a bunch of "pick me" from a literal retard that can't just pick one. You buy "top shelf" with ZERO regard for how any of it tastes, and think that makes you some kind of "official" on taste. You're the exact equivalent of eating gold leaf steak, thinking you're the authority. You buy shit that isn't better than the original, because you think it makes you special. Newsflash, chuckles, I owned the liquor stores for 15 years, I drank them all, you have no taste, you're a badgewhore.

is this any good? looks good on the shelf....

>>17281810
I don't know the freedom bux--> dollarydoo exchange rate, but USD150 will get you some amazing whiskey. Too many to list, really. If you're willing to spend that much, I'd suggest you buy 3 50 dollar bottles and experiment.,

>>17281797
>all bourbon
Wtf is wrong with you?

>>17281817
Thatsnicehoney.jpg
Cope moar, faggot. I've been drinking whiskey since you were the sperm that stayed in your loser dad's mini-scrotum when he jacked off to bette midler.
>t.old guy

>>17281825
I have taste. It's not too complicated, fren.

>>17281792
I think you're wrong about this entire thing. I don't think Fireball has much of anything going for it. It's mostly some cinnamon ting that got me batty an homeboy gwan shut down this operation. Anyhow, I like the way the Fireball's going, but I think it doesn't work. I drank two full bottles by now and I still don't feel anything.

>>17281835
Oh, you owned three of the most profitable liquor stores in your state twenty years ago and got to taste all manner of whiskey for free anytime you wanted to? Oh no? That was me, you say?

>>17281840
>r/bourbon
cringe, pls go back

alcohol is for depressed losers

>>17281867
you sound like a depressed loser

>>17281810
Maybe Knob Creek 12 yr? idk what the price is in Australia

>>17280771
God I fucking love Bushmills

>>17281848
>I fucked a lot of slimy liquor rep whores.
Good for you. I'm a multimillionaire who likes whiskey. Have fun jerking off to your memories of fucking 40 year old divorcees who had to sell a case of shitwisky to keep thir apartment. Also, which product do you use to keep your hair slicked back, dickhead?

>>17281906
Boy, you are mad jealous lol. What a fucking shame you spent all that on bullshit at retail and you ain't even got someone to drink it with. It's just walmart gel though, keeps it out of my way and smells pretty damn good.

>>17281526
the most fruit notes I've gotten so far are banana and raisin. it's quite dense still even for 46%. PX heavy sherry character compared to Revival, heard it's supposed to be closer to the Allardice.

The balance of PX and Virgin Oak go well together. a bit of tannin helps it from seeming too sweet. the spice is sort of a background player. mine really hasnt opened up yet. I did leave a fresh pour in the glass for 24 hours and it was much better. water isnt necessary just yet though.

>>17281797
got any uuuuuuuuuhhh.... Rye?

>>17281932
Banana? Interesting. I loved the old Allardice so this should be great. Thanks fren.

>>17281835
>"old guy"
>against an old business owner
lmao what a fucking loser lmao

>>17282013
loser AND retard*
a literal cuck

>>17282018
LMAOOO

>>17280792
Hey don’t make fun of laphroaig, it’s good.

>>17281792
I drank three bottles of fireball still don't feel anytinhg. Think you got bad information thereo n your lickers man.

>>17281792
Ok so now that I'm down on my last one I must ask you: do you feel like you done me in punk? By telling me Fireball is acceptable? It's... tasty? Passable? Are you not to blame for my misfortunes, sir? I demand absolute satisfaction.

>>17281792
Sir, I mean not to besmirch your honor, but are you a coward? I have demanded satisfaction and I have yet to receive a response. Remind yourself, it would be noble and honorable to duel me now, before a court of thousands To reject this offer would be ignoble.

>>17281745
Not that anon but I can confirm, writers tears is lovely. I’ll sit and have it with a shortbread cookie or two while doing stuff after dinner

>>17281733
Writer's tears red head is up there in terms of my favorite whisky.

>>17282130
>red head
sherry?

>>17281963
yeah, both Glenallachie bottles I've had have a bit of rum-ish quality's to them. the 10 year Cask Strength was like premium high proof spiced rum when I first cracked it open thats because of the combination of first-fill Bourbon, virgin oak, Oloroso and Pedro Ximenez puncheons, but with the more naturally appealing sweetness of a barley spirit rather than that of sugarcane or molasses.

the 15 has been less overtly so, so far, but almost like rum raisin ice cream on top of bananas foster
made using French toast and then drizzled with good maple syrup.

glenallachie is garbage, so is glendronach

>>17282471
Thank you anon, very descriptive.
>>17282742
You’re probably not a fan of sherry. Try some other unsherried scotches.

I heard that you can put vodka into bourbon barrels and get a pretty nice drink out of it, anyone try it before?

>>17282742
the only Glendronach most can agree is actual trash is the Port Wood. my shop got in 4 cases before Christmas and they didn't even bother putting them on the shelf as it was relegated to the ailse end piece. you'd think they'd start dropping the price... can't wait to see how bad they fuck up this last run of older Parliament bottlings.

>>17282937
not a fan of Canadian whiskey sorry

Any Irish-bros here going to Whiskey Live Dublin 2022?

It got pushed back to June but that's ok - pretty excited desu.

>>17281542
>>17281797
two bulleit fags fighting

>>17280841

10/10 meme

whiskeydudebro """culture""" is the cringiest shit.

If all of you did the Dry January thing your life would improve. So much so that you'd realize what a waste of time and money this all is and you'd continue it into Feb. and March. Alcohol also makes you fat and/or makes your face look prematurely old.

>>17283975
If you got a hobby, your life would improve, you'd realize you don't have to spam a general with shit no one cares about.

shilling the best rye again (I haven't tried any expensive single malt ryes yet, so maybe they are better)

>>17280801
>That's right, you can't.
Sure I can. It is undrinkable neat. It's not fit for purpose at all, it doesn't matter how much cheaper it is.

Can someone recommend me a good whiskey in the price range of Ardbeg 10 year which is similar but a little smoother, or just something else to try out. I'm going to get a "nice" bottle of whiskey (as in 40-60 dollar range) but know nothing about whiskey at all

>>17281823
Not quite how it works.
Availability is in the toilet for anything not popular. Which is a lot, because the tax has you competing against scotch that you would consider much more expensive.

Personally I'd stick to the under $60 price range to avoid competing against aged Speysides, and the occasional bottle in the 70's (like Blantons) if the alcohol hasn't been reduced.

Everything in the $90 - $150 price range I've had has been btfo by ~$80-$90 scotch.

Anyway, he's going to need to find an Aussie that definitely prefers corn.

>>17282945
IMO Glendronachs aren't fruity enough and you'd be better off with something like Lassanta.

Went to a whiskey tasting and drank all the whiskeys, most of them were good.

>>17284792
probably Laphroaig 10 40/43%, its cheaper than Ardbeg if you know where to look.

6 Isles is pretty good as well and should be around the same price.

theres also The Big Peat which is a blended malt using all Islay stuff.

The Lost Distillery has a peated blended malt called Lossit.

Kilchoman's Machir Bay is a little bit brighter and slightly more ashy profile.

people seem to like Scarabus and Smokehead which you can find at TotalWine as well as the Islay Gold labels.

Islay Mist and Isle of Skye blends are generally well regarded and are budget priced.

how do I into whiskey? t. babymouth
should I try it through cocktails first

>>17285438
Yeah try an old fashioned.

>>17285438
start slow and take your time. try as much as you can to know what you like. dont try to convince yourself into liking something if you hate it. make sure to actually sip things. dont get fooled by marketing and do your own research as "cheap doesnt always mean bad and expensive doesnt always mean good."

>>17285513
You may even be better off doing no research and walking blind into a whisky bar.
You see a lot of arguments here where someone who hasn't tried something is claiming it is shit, and others are calling them out on it to no effect.
And there's exceptions to every axiom you can think of.

>>17285438
Buy a bottom shelf bourbon like Evan Williams or Old Crow and try it neat, try it slightly watered down, try it in a highball with soda. If you start liking it straight, move onto more expensive bourbon if you like the sweetness, rye if you want it less sweet, Irish whiskey if you want it smoother, or Scotch if you want to go bankrupt.

I think high age bourbon is overrated mostly. Too much age and it just tastes like tannins, or it actually winds up being too balanced without a standout flavor. Higher proof can combat that but that's hard to find with high age statements.
Give me something young and flavorful like OGD100 or Evan Williams BiB

Pic unfucking related it's delicious

>>17285438
get out as long as you still can

>>17281778
WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE REEEE WHO TOLD EVERYONE

>>17284792
Are you asking about single-malt Scotch whiskies, or whiskey in general? There is a huge variety of Scotches (see pic). It depends upon what you mean by "a little smoother".

>>17285985
its like $30 now for a fucking screw top rye lol
Old Forester rye is the way to go now

>>17285438
Don't. I'm drinking Fireball at the moment, cause' it's cheap, easy to find, and you get smashed quick. You're better off drinking beer on the rare occasion that you go out with friends or family. Don't worry about booze at all.

>>17285990
they're premium screwtops retard

>>17285985
just looked at my local shops websites and it's all gone wtf lol.

>>17284809
>reddit spacing
you need to go back

this shit. how much sugar is added? it's like drinking maple syrup

>>17285985
>>17285990
>>17286018
It's fully available and $25 here in NYC where everything is overpriced

>>17286048
this is not a premium screwtop like heaven hill products tend to have.

>>17286052
Before it was gone it was $18

>>17286053
I purchased this in australia. It's too sweet to drink. I'm going to use it for cooking

>>17286048
None it's a kentucky straight bourbon, nothing can be added legally.

>>17286064
no you won't

>>17286064
try a high rye bourbon, like Old Grand Dad bonded.

>>17286075
If I see it, I'll try it. Is 80 proof Old Forester sold in USA?

>>17286131
>cumskin
get out of my country

>>17286131
no, we have an 86 proof as the standard, 100 proof for neat drinking and the whiskey row series for junkies

>>17286044
Excellent retort, I'll consider your words of wisdom deeply.

>>17286131
>Is 80 proof Old Forester sold in USA?
it's sold at 86 proof I think. Maybe there is an 80 proof too. They have a bunch of different Old Foresters here.

>>17286138
>get out of my country
https://youtu.be/Nt0NcaxmGHo

>>17286167
your landlord is named chang
your doctor is named chang
your mechanic is named chang
it's over

>>17286187
I don't live in Australia I just hate abos

>>17286131
your cunt waters it down to 40% for you ;^)

>>17286153
>>17286155
this 80 proof version is not very good. being watered down makes it too sweet. fit for cooking only

>>17286383
>whiskey
>cooking
?

>>17286409
you ain't never had bourbon balls?

>>17286409
tbqh I'll probably clean the grill with it this shitnis undrinkable

>>17285965
>OGD100
>not 114
u are like babby

>>17286048
That heavy sweetness is from the virgin oak.

>>17286075
>>17286131
Don’t listen to this anon. All bourbons are gonna be on the sweet side. Try scotch, irish or a rye.

>buddy gave me a bottle of this
What should I expect?

>>17281818
it's remarkably boring, maybe the worst PQR sans allocated hypeshit

which whisky has the most SOVL?

>>17286599
This guy doesn't even drink whiskey he just shits up the threads.

>>17286622
drinking is degenerate behavior.

>>17286642
He thinks old forestor is so sweet it’s undrinkable anon. There’s not going to be a bourbon that tones down that sweetness dramatically. OGD doesn’t do it. I think bourbons are not going to be for him.

>>17286678
Either way they have a very small selection of American Whiskeys outside the US, I'd recommend him something else but the only thing I can think of that they might have is Bulleit Rye but it's very different from bourbon.

>>17286678
This is for the Aussie?
He's better off going for Australian Rye.
Archie Rose Rye Malt is the gold standard, but checkout The Gospel solera as well.

>>17280771
Gibson's finest Sterling because I'm from Cuckland and cheap

>>17286622
No one will dare answer.

>>17286690
It's a good deal in Australia and they haven't touched the abv. Goes for $60s.

High West Double Rye is on sale, I don't remember if I liked it. $80.

>>17284809
>Everything in the $90 - $150 price range I've had has been btfo by ~$80-$90 scotch.
I’ve noticed this too

Can someone much smarter than me articulate why I love scotch much more than other styles of whisky?

>>17286829
You have low self esteem and hate having money in your pocket

>>17286829

>>17286841
Yea but why does it taste different from a bourbon and irish?

>>17286857
I dunno, prolly tannins or smth

>>17286869
I need someone smart

>>17286884
a smart person like me won't be wasting too much time answering your asinine questions. are you too stupid to put something in your mouth, and then think about what aspects make you glad you put that thing in your mouth? surely you've done that at least once to explain why you keep putting so many cocks in there.

>>17286892
>dude it justs tastes good
Again I’m looking for someone intelligent. Sorry.

>>17286829
>>17286857
Scotch, Irish whiskey, and bourbon have legal definitions of what their ingredients, distillation, and aging must be. For example, bourbon must be mad from mostly corn, whereas scotch can only use malted barley and Irish whiskey any malted grain. Then there's traditions regarding how each is produced and aged that obviously will affect taste.

>>17286899
Oh, you really are that stupid. I'm sorry you have to live like that.

>>17280771
ive got an unopened thing of jack honey in my closet

>>17286904
What are the traditions of scotch that make it unique?

>>17286922
Off the top of my head, the types of barrels used for aging and the use of peat fires to dry the grain contribute a lot to the flavor. Honestly you can just look these things up and figure out how the scotch you like is made and use that information to find similar whiskeys

>>17285144
>Big Peat
I see this one each time I buy whisky at my local store but I get filtered hard by the cringe bottle.

>>17286829
More variety of flavors, more complexity of flavor, less sweet.

>>17287040
How do they achieve this?

>>17286922
>>17286946
It's probably also worth pointing out that Scottish distillers are permitted to use food coloring in their whisky, whereas American distillers are expressly forbidden from doing so.

>>17287069
Don’t really care how the whisky looks. More concerned with the taste.

>>17287069
>>17287075
I don't think people are ready for almost clear whisky.

>>17287093
Bourbon isn't almost clear

I'm getting into Japanese whisky after learning a lot about Scotch and bourbon over the past few years. I got these three bottles with some Christmas gift money and I am blown away by all three. The two single malts are equivalent to scotches in the same price range, and I enjoyed learning about the history and how they're produced in the same way. They both have a lovely bit of peat smoke that doesn't overpower the other flavors on display. I've never quite had anything quite like the Suntory. It's very light, almost no ethanol burn, but still has a very nice mix of floral flavors. I made Japanese highballs with it, just twhisky and club soda, and it's one of the best cocktails I've ever had. There's a few more bottles I want to pick up as well, but I'm really enjoying these three for now.

>>17280771
food
cringe

If that's food then I might as well eat shit right away. That's even healthier than this.

retarted alcoholics

>>17287093
Mass consomers are definitely not ready to see their favorite blends in natural color. But for people who mainly buy single malts already? Won’t be a big deal. Plenty are already natural color and for the ones that aren’t, there are already plenty of independent bottlers that release stuff from the distillery in natural color. The colors are never drastically different desu. But I’m sure for major blends, the difference would be shocking.

>>17287113
Masataka Taketsuru, the father of japanese whisky studied in how to make whisky in Scotland and brought the same style back home. He even married a scottish woman who helped him.

>>17287234
Here’s your japanese whisky bro

>>17282937
Yea it’s called single grain scotch whisky. It’s not bad at all. Just very very light and you just feel it’s missing something. Taste like diet whisky. The only flavors you’ll find are from the oak it’s aged in.

>>17287234
Yeah, I learned about how he worked for the guy that started Suntory, too. Really interesting history, and that sort of rivalry is reflected in the production. Blended Japanese whisky only uses bottles from their own production facilities; there isn't any kind of friendly trading between distilleries like in Scotland.

>>17287276
Taketsuru was hired to direct building the first Suntory distillery Yamzaki, and then he ran it for 10 years. After that we went and started his own whisky company so Suntory doesn't talk about him.

Like you said, all blending is done inside the company. There's no selling of whisky between companies. The scotch distilleries they own are still allowed to sell to blenders I think, since bowmore and laphroaig still show up in blends. If the japanese companies blend their japanese distilleries with scotch or other whiskies, it seems like they only blend with distilleries they own. pic rel, Chita barrels in the Yamazaki storehouse

>>17287276
Also, at least at Yamazaki Distillery, their still designs are all over the place. Unlike scotch distilleries that usually stick to one or two designs. Picture is wash stills 1-6 at Yamazaki

>>17287276
Spirit stills 1-6, they have 3 more stills in another building. Unfortunately the best time for japanese whisky is about a decade ago. It used to be equivalent to scotch in quality and cost about half as much since it wasn't from scotland. Yamazaki 12 and 18 would still on shelves for about $40 and $80 respectively.

>>17287047
With already-used casks (hence why it's less sweet), multiple cask types and, sometimes, peated malt.
It's mostly that they use already-used casks. This lets the flavor of the spirit itself shine through more, and the cask flavors aren't quite as punch-you-in-the-mouth intense as with new casks, so it allows for a better spirit/cask balance, subtler flavors and more complexity of flavor.
While the sameiness of all bourbons is often exaggerated (Old Grand-Dad 114, Woodford Reserve Double Oaked and Maker's Mark all taste quite different), they're still much samier than Scotches. They're all sweet as fuck and charry because they're made with new charred oak casks. With any bourbon you know you're gonna get a lot of sweetness and some char. They're all gonna have that character to it.

>>17286829
Scotch is sweeter and less spicy, easier on the palate generally.
>b-but muh smoke
Yeah, bacon and ham is VERY challenging...

>>17287047
virgin oak - clove, pepper, cinnamon
refill casks - vanilla, caramell, maple syrum

>>17280792
>anything I don't like is reddit
good post

>>17280771
Went there in 1990 on a tour, only ones there so we ended up nearly having the bottle in the tasting section. I was only 15 . Great 2 weeks of doing all the distilleries and fishing

>>17286622
mellow corn

>>17287605
Makes sense. Thank you.

>>17288821
The guy you're replying to is our house troll who's having a schizo meltdown in every thread because Bourbon hurt his feefees once.

>>17285952
Evan Williams has no business being as good as it is.

>>17280771
Why is this thread always being made? I'm drinking the same whisky of few days ago. Why do you talk of $40-$200 whiskies like the guys of /sip/ talk about their cans? do you buy a bottle every day or what?

>>17288837
I'm not that guy. I actually like bourbon. Sometimes I'm in the mood for something subtle and complex, and sometimes I'm in the mood for punch-you-in-the-mouth, intense flavors. There's a time and place for both.
I'm currently really enjoying my Old Forester 1920. Super intense and oaky.

>>17281797
I'll take the following
>Window Jane
>Beckenridge
Curious about the Lazy river, is it any good? I've seen it before but never grabbed a bottle.

>>17281867
>this level of projection

>>17283952
Everything is cringe with you anti-enjoyment faggots.
>whiskey culture is le bad
If anyone is cringe here, it is faggots like you who judge others.

>>17281779
JW Fire is better.

>>17287099
That's because of the warm climate pulling more colour out of the wood, and the use of new wood. Scotch uses ex bourbon barrels mostly, and always in a cold climate so you have most of the colour already gone and less being pulled out.
Some scotch isn't coloured. It's typically sold in green bottles, and even after 10, 12 or even 16 years it is absolutely clear compared to even 3 month old bourbon.
When you do see dark uncoloured scotch the colour usually comes from sherry being leached out of ex sherry barrels.

>>17287934
Virgin oak has more of all of those refill flavours than refill casks.

>>17289771
Somebody buys a bottle every day. Not that these threads end that quickly. This one is 3 days old and won't end today.

Also buying bottles isn't a fast way to try new stuff. You can go to a whisky bar once a week and share half pours with a friend, trying 40 in one go. Which will give you plenty to talk about.

>>17290026
Glenfiddich Fire is even better again.

>>17285144
Thanks for the recs man. Didn't see any of those in the store, but I'll keep my eyes peeled next time I go to another place. Picked this up because the flavor profile is described as different than Ardbeg and just wanted to compare. So far I like it a lot. It tastes exactly how it says on the bottle, fruit, marzipan, a bit of oak. It's very smoothe.

>>17290924
>different than Ardbeg
well that's because Glenlivet is the standard Speyside and Ardbeg is hardcore Islay. literally and figuratively polar opposites in terms of flavors.if you have any of the Ardbeg left you should pour it next to the Glenlivet and compare. Staggeringly different.

Female Whisky drinker here. It’s funny buying a good single malt. I usually get asked who I’m buying it for, husband? Father? Brother? Surely it can’t be for yourself. Then when I tell it’s for me, I get a shocked look. They recover and decide to ‘play along’ with me. Then they start telling me lots of things I know I about Whisky.

It’s at this point, if I can be bothered, I go through their shelves and tell them all the ones I’ve tasted and why I like them or not. Which regions I prefer, big up Islay, and why I’m not a fan of Irish and 100% prefer Scottish.

Now is when I think they feel bad. Because they always offer me loads of samples. I can usually free taste like 4/5 different ones min on every visit.

Having said that met a really nice woman last time through the airport who was giving out Talisker samples. We had a great chat. She was awesome.

Now guys at bars when you order a single malt find you immediately intriguing. They watch you take a sip. I think they are waiting to see if you make a face. When you look pleased then they have their in to strike up a conversation.

I don’t know a lot of other female whisky drinkers but I wish I did. I can only go on so many old fashioned hunts with boys.

>>17291053
This is copy pasta and you have reddit spacing.

>>17291053
tl;dr
Post booba or feet or GTFO.

What's a good midrange whiskey for someone who hasn't had anything except Jack and Fireball at parties? Looking to try something new this year.

>>17285985
a particular high profile case happened and to celebrate the outcome people bought an alcoholic drink that shared the name with someone involved with the case in large volume.

>>17291069
Knob Creek 9 yr.

what's a whiskey like ardbeg but not cringe like ardbeg? specifically similar to an oa.

>I care about image, labeling and marketing
>I don't solely care about flavor

>>17291353
>getting filtered this hard

>>17291363
yeah that's what happens when you have gay advertising like ardbeg's. you filter your customer base.

>>17291376
Most people just buy it because they like the taste, they don't care what is on the bottle.

>>17291380
most people drink light beer too that doesn't mean i'm gonna

>>17291400
You're getting filtered because of a label, just so you're aware, not because it tastes bad.

>>17291401
that's right.

>>17291353

>>17291419
more like mcshartys

>>17291419
thanks for the non tarded reply. i'll give it a shot if i catch it on the shelf.

>>17291053
>Then they start telling me lots of things I know I about Whisky.
That's not a female thing. The same bartender who's personally served me hundreds of whisky does this all the fucking time. Reps and service men are bots on a loop. And you can totally fuck with them by going off script.

>they always offer me loads of samples
This is just good service. The monopoly bottle shop here would always have a free tasting that changed every week. And you should take them up on it whenever there's something interesting. They will make their money back from this.

>I think they are waiting to see if you make a face
They are. Mostly this is non whisky drinkers though, who don't understand enjoying it neat.
I had the pleasure of handing a friend Plantation Overprooof once, and sipped it neat before him. He vomited on the spot. And the glass was intact so I didn't even waste any. 10/10 would pass non drinkers cask strength plus stuff again.

>I don’t know a lot of other female whisky drinkers but I wish I did
There aren't many. Become a regular at a whisky bar. The female patrons will all be plus one's, but you may get a female bartender that's really into it.

>>17291064
Learn to paragraphs.

>>17291515
>Learn to paragraphs.
most reddit thing I've read all day.
You aren't even aware of what reddit spacing is because it's so natural to you.

>>17285144
where the fuck do you guys find laphroaig 10 for less than Ardbeg? Everywhere I look Ardbeg 10 is consistently $10-20 cheaper

>>17291524
Nah it's the triple enter that indicates they were trying to use paragraphs there that is the tell.
Also this discussion we're having is bannable so I'm done.

>>17291534
Literally everywhere.
Prices are not stable across regions, leave your state / country to see.

whiskey general makes me hate the fact that I love whiskey.

>>17280771
I see so many whiskeyposters outside of this thread, you people need to police your own better.

>>17291537
>Also this discussion we're having is bannable so I'm done.
Reddit spacing should be bannable

words can't describe how much I want Laphroaig right now. I would lay face down naked outside in the freezing cold and snow just to get 2 ounces of that delicious islay gold. I'd dress up in a gimp suit, tape my driver's license to my chest, and walk around down town for an hour just to get half a bottle of the stuff. I'd suck off some pozzed dick just to get whole bottles of the stuff. I am a slut for Laphroaig.

>>17291644
I think you might have a problem Laphroaig bro

>>17291534
Costco is pretty reliable with Laphroaig 10 at $37.99 USD

>>17291439
it's good shit. never had another quite like it. there's a Barrel Proof for about double the cost and only from K&L Wine Merchants in CA.

>>17291644
Lore is good, dont let the young stuff scare you off this label.

Are whiskey cocktails allowed? If so I’d like to ask: what’s a cocktail you like with what kind of whiskey?

For me, it’s pic related in a sazerac with some decent absinthe.

>>17291053
what I wouldn't give to have an Islay shelf

>>17291764
>Lore is good, dont let the young stuff scare you off this label.
Quite frankly I think you can fairly reliably use price to determine quality of a NAS whisky.

I unironically like Drambuie.

>>17291644
Based?

>>17288837
If he’s a schizo and wrong, tell me how you would describe the difference?

>>17288668
Sounds comfy. I didn’t know tours were a thing back then.

>>17287605
>>17291966
He’s not wrong. This is an accurate description of the difference between the two.

>>17291644
Is everyone here really this poor?

>>17292001
>t. samefag

>>17292018
It's accurate bro. Although I think the sameness isn't overblown.
Inb4 everyone is a samefag.

>>17292001
The one part where I erred in that description was neglecting to mention that a lot of bourbon's sweetness comes from the fact that all bourbons have at least 50% corn in the mash bill. If I gave anyone the impression all the sweetness came from the new oak, that's absolutely not the case.
However, you're definitely getting stronger notes of sweet vanilla and caramel from new oak compared to used oak, so it's a factor.

>>17291966
See
>>17287934

>>17292042
But anon, vanilla and caramel are two of the primary notes found in any bourbon.

>>17292047

if you stood in front of me right now i'd plunge a dagger into your scoliotic thorax

>>17292051
>he says, while Reddit-spacing

>>17291953
I've read its recipe changed drastically and it's much worse than it used to be.
I found a recent bottle to be cloyingly sweet and rather one-dimensional with its anise flavor.

>>17287113
Japanese is my preferred. Great quality.

>>17292042
Kek this is the guy with only bourbon in his cabinet.

>>17286048
No self-respecting individual would willingly let any bourbon under 100 proof get past their lips. Get the stuff in my pic.

When the sweetness in scotch actually stands out, I find it much worse than the sweetness in bourbon. I'm thinking garbage like Glenmorangie which has that insipid quality to it: mild, sweet, with nothing else to back it up, no balls. To me scotch should either be heavily peated, cask strength, or have a nicely done sherry finish or something. Otherwise I'd much rather be drinking bourbon, cognac, or agave spirits.

>>17292114
>No self-respecting individual would willingly let any bourbon under 100 proof get past their lips.
Woodford Reserve Double Oaked is legit and delicious. I agree with you for the most part, though.

>>17292114
Old Fozzie is the tits. Their 1920 is stellar.

>>17292138
Yeah, stereotypical Speysides are boring as shit.

>>17292148
The older stuff can be great. Light and complex is a totally valid style.

>>17292138
>>17292148
I love them. They’re great everyday sippers imo. I save my bourbons and dense sherried scotches for after dinner.

>>17292182
You have multiple drams throughout the day, anon?

>>17292042
>dude you get MORE oak flavor with each subsequent use!
I’m sure you’re baiting at this point.

>>17292187
You don’t?

>>17292201
No I have one dram at night once every 2-3 days. You have a problem.

>>17292212
I know I don’t have a problem because i had covid over 2 weeks ago and haven’t had a drop this whole time because I completely lost my taste. I can easily stop drinking.

>>17292235
Sucks to be you. Your immune system is like babby. I had it in early 2020 and all I had was a fever for a day.

>>17292182
>bourbons and dense sherried scotches
I can’t imagine drinking these everyday. Way too sweet for daily use.

>drinking the same whiskey two days in a row
Y'all don't actually do this, do you?
Man, I gotta have my variety. I can't remember the last time I had the same one two drams in a row.

>>17291804
meaning the more spend the more you get or vice versa?

I dont think I'd ever pull the trigger on something like King Alexander III or Signet without having had them before, but the few I have that are around the $100 mark have been knockouts imho.

>>17292051
>I’m wrong and I want to teleport behind you

>>17292071
This. I picked up a bottle the other day for the first time in probably about 10 years, and straight away it seemed far sweeter than I recalled, and more medicinal tasting, for lack of a better word.

I chalked it up to me misremembering things, but maybe it wasn't my fault at all.

>>17292416
He wants to have sex with you haha

>>17292357
Yes, the more expensive the better.
But you're right, I'll back pedal immediately.
At least so far as more expensive doesn't mean worth it.

Laphroaig Lore is $180 here and it's not good enough for that price. It is the best Laphroaig I've ever had, and it's great. But I can have two great bottles for that. Or a independent cask strength bottle and $50 in my pocket.

Uigeadail is not there either at $150. Market rate for a CS bottle is $140 here, and I only buy on sale well under that and consider it splurging.

>>17280798
I disagree. Smokehead is the most soy whiskey ever made

>>17287009
Its not the worst but it is total soyboy shit and it tastes of basically nothing but Peat its still better than smokehead but id avoid it if u can afford actual whiskey

>>17292423
>$180
I can’t possibly pay that much for a NAS. Didn’t the Lore replace the 18 after they ran out of stock?

>>17292423
>Lore $180, Uige $150
CAD or AUD?

>>17292467
18 was discontinued and then Lore got discontinued and then John Campbell left so dont be surprised if Lore starts going quick. my bottle is an ambassador batch I paid 109$ USD in October of last year since I shopped around for the lowest price.

>>17280771
I unfortunately have had to cut back on alcohol. I was tired of the endless puking and depression the day after.

>>17292602
Try to just have just one dram a night and just focus on the flavor. Don’t drink to get drunk.

>>17292567
USD

>>17280771
i only buy ready made whisky cola in cans from the supermarket. is ok

>>17292698
jesus christ how horrifying

>>17292197
He's right, though. First time alcoholic extraction will always lead to a more tannic and glue-y extract, subsequent extractions will extract more wood sugars which will result in a vanilla and caramel heavy profile. This isn't even controversial.

>>17291971
There werent many tourists going to the islands back then no. But yep was a brilliant time there, really should have gone back before now to visit again, might have to do it this year

>>17293899
That’s objectively false fren.
Also the number of fills is less important to how long the cask has been in use.

>>17294123
You don't understand the very basic chemistry of the thing you're pretending to be knowledgeable about and the passive-aggressive use of "fren" just indicates your butthurt awareness about it.

>>17294157
he's clearly a redditor. only they do passive-aggressive over plain aggressive.

>want to try a new bottle of scotch
>overwhelmed at the sheer volume of them at the store that I know fuck all about
>leave with a bottle of Glenlivet 12 because it's the only one I've ever had
I guess I really could just grab a bottle at random and hope for the best.

>>17292051
>>17294157
Are you this same guy that’s having a schizo breakdown?

>>17294298
Go to a whisky bar if you can and order single drams and try to figure out what you like.

>>17294123
lmao, learn about saturation levels of alcohol water solutions and how they correspond to reaction time and intensity, brainlet

>>17294474
So exactly how long does it take for the vanilla flavors to show up in the oak? Only after bourbon is done with it? Kek

>unrelated to whiskey but there's no general thread for alcoholic drinks so please forgive me
do you guys think there is still room for selling my own brand of hard seltzer in the UK and Europe? I know they're very popular in america and those american brands are now starting to sell their stuff here. do you reckon an independent brand still has a chance since it's just the beginning phase over here?

>>17280792
>>17280841
What is the least Reddit whisky?

>>17294897
No such thing. All whisky is reddit. That’s the final blackpill.

>>17280801

Cutty Sark is disgusting

>>17294925
you have no data to prove that

>>17294950

>>17292430
Most soy bottle, it is just NAS Caol Ila. The CS Smokehead is top shit. And I have no doubt the branding will keep it from ever being discovered.

>>17292567
>>17292843
That wasn't me. AUD.
A friend picked it up cheaper in England.

>>17295143
But it tastes terrible what are u on about it has no subtle notes or balance its just very Smokey and peaty

>>17293899
The high lactone-content explains the heavy sweet coconut aroma of bourbons, but the aroma is toned down in the refill casks as the lactones are largely depleted in the first fill with spirit. Wine extracts lactones too; a six month wine maturation decreases the extraction of oak lactones to about 30-40% in the second fill. The new wood casks impart the most sweet oak, coconut, caramel and smoky aromas as the refills tend to be drier, subtler but still quite tanninic. The cask maturation is very rapid in first fill casks during the first months as the maturation in refills is usually more linear and predictable, although significantly slower.

>bourbon
>coconut

>>17295499
I've only had the cask strength and it's delicious. It's got this cream biscuit with a hint of lemon thing going in addition to the smoke.
I suspect you're just not ready for peated / high abv whisky so you're failing to see past the smoke / alcohol.

How long of a break do you reckon I'd need to take after drinking ~6 units of alcohol a day for the past month?

>>17295595
One month? who gives a fuck just get back to a more reasonable amount. Only get back on if you get the shakes or some such.

>>17295595
Once you come back, try only drinking once a week. And don't over drink, 6 drinks is too much, try 2.

Where do you guys get your bottles from? My local liquor store carries just basic bottles. Do you order online?

>>17295571
The coconut is from the lactones.
The vanilla is from the vanillin.

>>17295595
Try drinking just one unit a day.

>>17294123
lmao you got btfo so hard

>>17295862
>t.same schizo
I fail to see how

>>17295975
>she's hallucinating
you, meds, now

Tamnavulin seems a bit more middle of the road than I thought, like a cheaper Glenlivet. Been trending towards it versus the sweeter bourbons I favored at first, though Longbranch is still the champ in that regard.

>>17296445
>glenlivet on $50
>ardbeg and glenlivet on the same tier
>stating ardbeg 10 is cheaper than laphroaig 10
>green label is the top tier

god this is awful

>>17297870
which pill are we taking /wg/?

>>17294897
All whiskey is reddit anon. Take the vodka pill. Unpretentious and just pure alcohol.

>>17296445
>Tamnavulin
Wtf is that? This is the worst chart i’ve ever seen.

>>17294897
pure gasoline

>>17298209
very condescending for a terrible chart, as well.

>>17287239
don't you worry Peggy, after i defeat this ieyasu sumbitch and bring you back home, we'll have some old fashioned American alcohol and propane cooked steak, like the good old times. that i can assure on my life

>>17280798
Why are 100+ year old distilleries soy? Bourbon is soy. Beer is soy. Everything else is fine. Tequila is going to be the next trend

>>17291573

>giving this much of a shit about spaces

You know """"reddit spacing""" is a meme made up by oldfags to identify the election tourists, right?

>>17298205
>clear spirits

>>17299847
>he thinks all spirits are so lame that they require wood infusion in order to taste good
look at this r/scotch idiot putting his ignorance on full display for everyone to see, look at him and laugh.

>>17280792
Isn't Lagavulin the plebbit Islay? I remember in college I was drinking it and some girl was telling me that some character on Parks & Recreation loved that exact kind.

>>17300069
This isn't the 70s anymore grandpa, no one gives a shit about vodka.

>>17300113
There's only 9 distilleries on islay.
And if you were to dismiss one as shit it would probably be Bowmore.

>>17300113
yeah

>>17300281
This is omega cringe
I'm so glad Lagavulin is overpriced

>>17300406
We're getting fucked in the US on lagavulin prices, it's like 55 Euros in Italy.

>>17300414
you get willett for 50 bucks, it's 3 times as much in europe

>>17300421
>implying we can find it
lol

>>17300414
yes but we get tradeoffs.
The way it works is typically new whiskies will heavily subsidize their pricing to make a big presence in the US market and then slowly but surely increase their price and introduce higher age statements to build the brand up to prestige.

For instance a mere 5 years ago Speyburn 10 was being sold for no more than 17 bucks a bottle at my grocery store. And that's a solid malt. Now it's nearing 30USD, which is nearly the 30 pounds it asks for in the UK

>>17300449
You want more competition than that.
Here the biggest retailer introduces new stuff at a premium because it's rare. Then the price slowly comes down until it starts selling.
But the (admittedly much smaller) opposition brings new stuff in at rock bottom prices and moves that price up with time. But it's not playing the age game, so when the 18 releases later on it too has rock bottom pricing.
And then you get the online retailers not making big splashes, but they have the rare stuff, and do great deals on travel retail bottles.

>>17300406
it actually got cheaper in the last 6 months than its been in 6 years because people are onto Diageo. Their (((Offerman))) fagshit is fringe now since ths show is over.

>>17300629
The price gouging is doubtless why they get the hate they do in these threads. The biggest brand really should be cheapest.
They are here though.

>>17300414
Lagavulin 16 is like $65 at Costco.
Then again, Laphroaig 10 is $37 at Costco, and Lagavulin 16 certainly isn't $27 better than Laphroaig 10 (I actually prefer Laphroaig).

>>17300880
It's $95AUD. Which is $46USD with the tax off.
Which sounds right, Laphroaig is like $10 cheaper.

>>17300754
>The price gouging is doubtless why they get the hate they do in these threads.
That and their casks suck ass.
That and every whiskey they buy immediately becomes worse after they buy it.

>>17300935
This is objectively false. Diageo gets better casks because they can pay more. The problem small distilleries have is they're too poor to get proper barrels unless they get creative.

>>17300935
>That and their casks suck ass.
Perhaps necessarily true given the scale of their production.
But you also see beloved distilleries with shit casks like Glendronach and Glenfarclas overlooking this entirely. And it's not like they're bad, they're just ..boring? They do age stuff more though so you do get the complexity for your trouble.
>every whiskey they buy immediately becomes worse after they buy it
Very hard to verify. And it may just be old bottle effect.

>>17300951
I think you'll find the best casks are used for world whisky. Australia still has adequate stock of ex commercial sherry barrels, and boatloads of ex commercial shiraz barrels. Wales seems do have a boatload of madeira casks.
Independent scotch bottlers definitely get better casks.

>>17300113
>>17300281
Why the fuck do you avoid a drink because other people like it? You're only robbing yourself of options. It's pathetic and weak.

The Nick Offerman version is actually pretty good and I hate Parks and Rec. Hate/love a spirit for the spirt itself, not whatever dumbass marketing is associated with it.

>>17300968
>But you also see beloved distilleries with shit casks like Glendronach and Glenfarclas overlooking this entirely.
being overlooked for committing this crime entirely
or
people with their beloved distilleries like

>>17300968
Nah, any Diageo single cask release is the toppest of tops. They can't afford to fuck up.

On the other hand, I can do fine without the "world whisky" finished in pear wine barriques and whatnot.

>>17300971
Oh I think Lagavulin's a great malt don't get me wrong I just think it's overpriced and overrated.

>>17301002
The special releases aren't cheap though. Not at all.
And that price hike brings down demand, and therefore production until they may as well be an independent release.
Except for the cost being higher.

lagavulin just tastes like laphroaig with too much sweetness

>>17301006
>overpriced
Agreed. Luckily I didn't have to pay, a buddy of mine bought it so our group could try it. Everyone liked it but only a few would pay full cost.

>overrated
I don't concern myself with the opinions of the masses when I'm the one drinking it.

>>17300951
>>17301002
10 cents were deposited into your account.
Thanks,
Diageo

>>17301096
This comment was brought to you by Coca Cola.
Taste the Feeling tm

Beer >>>> Whiskey

>>17301065
If you don't have an entire bottle to enjoy you really don't know the whisky.

>>17301096
Did you drink any of those single casks or are you just a fuckhead?
I'm the guy legitimately arguing against him btw, but you know, without brandishing ignorance.