/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17177180
first for christmas breakfast

>>17177310
i'd take some tinned beans with that, but looks good

>>17177180
Today I had my coffee mixed with coconut based holiday nog beverage

>>17177180
Someone say origami? Also the nonexistant robozos will complain about the lack of representation. Better split would probably be direct levers and spring levers.

>>17177180
the only way to brew coffee tbqh, where is the representation?

>>17177180
Over at my parent's house so cannot post any pictures but at my home, I have the following.

>>17178735
Curious about what kind of cold brew tower you have. I’ve been thinking about building my own from laboratory glass or just getting the glass components from somewhere that makes a tower and then building a stand myself. Or just buying a complete tower and eventually making my own stand for it but does any reputable company actually make tower drippers?

>>17178436
Literally first column, second entry.

>>17178797
>Curious about what kind of cold brew tower you have.
I received the Yama cold brew tower from a buddy that owns a coffee shop. He got an upgrade and was going to toss it into the dumpster before I grabbed it.
>https://clivecoffee.com/products/yama-cold-brew-drip-tower

>>17178819
Is the valve worth a shit? Or is it just some nylon chinkshit valve painted to look like shiny metal?

>>17178850
Eh, for a "free" drip tower it has been reliable enough when I make coffee with it.
I'm unsure how much my buddy originally paid for it but the $240 price tag that the linked website has is way too much. If I didn't have it and wanted one. I could easily build something a lot cheaper with better components.

>>17178797
>literally first column, second entry
no it's not, my post is coffee in a dzezva.

What I'm not seeing is cowboy coffee, but then again, that involves no special equipment at all.

>>17178871
That tells me what I need to know. Thanks, I’ll put my $250 towards better goals.

>>17179002
Post your cowboy coffee, anon. Any simmering pan of grounds and water can be a stand in for a cezve, especially since >>17178436 can only post the first image google found for him and then baww about the spelling of the fucking thing

>>17178819
someone explain the benefits of this over just dumping grounds in a container and leaving them in water for a couple days?
i've made 2 gallons a week for 3 years now and it takes basically 0 work.
>picrel, even tried tossing some coconut shavings into it once, which was real fun

>>17177180
>drip machine

>>17179147

>>17179197
what are you showing me? that some people are clumsy?

>>17177180
Ordered a Comandante as a Christmas present to myself
I'm fully expecting not to be able to tell the difference between freshly ground and pre-ground, but maybe I'll be surprised

>>17179570
Commandantes are based. You'll love it. Doubleshotcoffee sells accessories if you want to add on a funneled collar or anything later.

>>17177180
>tfw I switch between a v60, moka pot, and french press but still cant decide on which is best
Bros how do I get a stronger brew? I tried grinding finer for my moka pot but that just made it more acidic

>>17179570
You will absolutely be able to tell. You won't be able to drink preground coffee anymore. Did you just go from no grinder to one of the best grinders?

>>17180114
You can't really adjust strength on a moka pot, because of the way it works you're pretty much locked in to a specific brew ratio and grind or you just end up with shit.

You could fuck around with an aeropress to see if you can push the strength up any further, there's accessories made to increase pressure to get something closer to espresso (obviously you still won't actually get espresso from it).

Beyond that you could just say fuck it and get an actual espresso machine, either manual or otherwise.

>>17178976

>>17177180
Was gonna make a moka affogatto later but I might do Phin instead for this.
The Phin brews I make are about as concentrated as moka anyway and there's way less hassle involved. Don't know why I bother with the moka pot really.

>>17177180
paddlefag reporting

>>17179197
>icanteven.jpg

>>17180455
yeah fuck it, I'll just continue having 2 cups of decent strength coffee a day and save my shekels up for an actual decent machine

you can make whatever strength coffee youd like with a coffee pot.

>>17181632
you mean those things that scorch all taste and texture from the coffee?

>>17181632
you can make a perfect cup of coffee with a couple days' patience if you cold brew, but here we are, spending thousands on inferior brew methods all the same.

>>17181653
>>17181659
you can make a perfect cup of coffee using a coffee pot and learing how to do it for a couple of days.

>>17177180
>>17181310
Good old milk coffee
I fucked up though this one is seriously underextracted.

Im drinking coffee instant

>>17181722
what exactly do you mean by coffee pot? percolator?

French press with whip cream

>>17181880
a dzezva.

20% completed
at the end, there will be a high resolution version if we can get every box represented

>>17178403
you know, it was both easy & a struggle to arrive at 25 different methods, at some point your splitting hairs over all the fucking pourover cones
same problem arises with how you classify espresso machines but mostly I didn't want FlairShillFag to feel left out so i gave him the center square

imagine how much fun it would be to make a concise list of 25 grinders that might get a >80% response of images
grinder bingo might just end up being a pointless exercise

>>17181992
Flairs are just lever machines though, nothing special about them.
For espressos classification should be manual (flair, la pavoni, robot, ...), auto (electric machines, 9barista) and super autos (those bean to cup machines)

I'm in a new apartment and counter space is at a premium, so I'm trying to find the best way of brewing coffee that
>Occupies the least counter space (stove space is fine)
>Is easy to clean as possible, ideally dishwasher
>Is of good quality
I'm a bit on the fence on how to do this.
>moka pot
+++Great space efficiency
---Constant, non-dish washer cleaning
-Meh coffee
>French price
+okay space efficiency (requires kettle)
+Decent coffee
-Decent, consistent cleaning, sometimes dishwasher safe
>Drip coffee machine
+Decent coffee
++Fairly low maintenance
--Terrible space efficiency
And so on, what does /ctg/ think?

>>17182027
Get one of the many available pourover drippers

>>17182027
v60?
+good coffee
+easy to wash
+small

>>17182027
get aeropress anon, it's french press but easier to clean (protip get a metal filter)

>>17182043
>>17182046
That's honestly where I'm leaning as well. The only problem is that I'd need a kettle... but I'd probably need one regardless.

I really like the idea of a moka pot, but I've never actually had a good cup of moka pot coffee.

>>17182015
I know
I fussed over the classifications of espresso machines and took into consideration what is seen in /ctg/ often enough so that hopefully it's possible to fill the card completely and give everyone a chance to post an image of their own if they want
but this is a very imperfect science and i encourage you to sperg out over how incredibly wrong I am

anon's pavoni at the conclusion of the previous thread (picrel) inspired me to change "superautomatic" to "lever" at the last minute and if no one else posts their lever machine in here this image will suffice

>>17182050
>The only problem is that I'd need a kettle
for a second I forgot that everyone doesn't in fact live in the UK where not having a kettle is akin to not having shoes
also, moka pots can make great tasting coffee (albeit not very strong) Hoffman has a great technique video out there

>>17182059
I've heard this as well, but I've just never fucking seen it happen. It's kind of like a unicorn event.

>>17182015
Flairs robots and roks are direct levers. Pavonis, creminas and others are spring assisted levers. The new odyssey argos is both.
>>17181486
kek

Sorry bros
I was going to visit that cafe today and try ordering something, but they're closed again
This time I think due to a snow storm...
I guess I'll try again tomorrow

>>17182195
I believe in you and your coffee, anon. Some day soon you will actually order your coffee in a real cafe and it will be worth it.
Try and take a picture of their espresso machine while you’re there if it doesn’t cause too much anxiety; it might satisfy the E61 square

>for me... it's pic rel

>>17179059
I only did cowboy coffee a few times when I got free coffee samples in the mail when not having any real coffee equipment, just a saucepan. Then I got a French press.

>>17182208
>Try and take a picture of their espresso machine
That would be weird, so I won't do it
But luckily someone else did and posted it to Google Maps
Is this an espresso machine?

>>17182050
Honestly for something like french press, pourover, or aeropress you can pretty much just call a kettle the only counter space needed since any of those can be easily stowed away in a cabinet when not in use. And you really ought to have a kettle anyway.

>>17182229
That's a grinder anon

>>17182251
Oh, is this it then? It's an old pic from a couple years ago, so idk if they still have this machine
Maybe I can try to get a picture if/when I go in

>>17182251
Oh, is this it then? It's an old pic from a couple years ago, so idk if they still have this machine
Maybe I can try to get a picture if/when I go in

>>17182229
>>17182251
how did you even manage to plug in your computer anon

Still not a good picture, but it is more obviously a French press than the previous candidate. I haven't cleaned it out from this morning's coffee.

What's the best robusta?

I just do cold brew overnight with a pitcher in the fridge.

>>17183627
do you ever add the contents of your spicerack and a can of coconut cream to it?

>>17184118
I think mustard would go very poorly in coffee.

>>17181992
Surprised to be first for V60

Is basically all ground coffee in a supermarket shit?

I use it in my moka pot just because I can't be bothered to buy a coffee grinder. Still tastes better than instant.

>>17185323
going from preground to freshly ground is like waking up and seeing that you could have been fucking a victoria secret model instead of the couch cousin all along

>>17185327
still, aren't coffee beans from a supermarket shitty too? Idk anywhere I can get quality stuff, wouldn't know the difference anyway.

>>17185323
Being better than instant isn't really an achievement, you're talking about low quality coffee that's been ground and stored for weeks or months before it ever gets to you as well as generally being burnt to shit during roasting vs something that's basically the exact same situation but instead of grinding then storing they brew it at industrial scale, freeze dry it, then package the sad remnants, store it for weeks months or years before you get it, and then you rehydrate it to consume.

Both are shit but instant is obviously more shit because why wouldn't it be

>>17185323
First, the best grocery store coffees are just okay. They aren't bad, but they aren't great. Granted that they are a month or less old after roasting, the preground ones are going to be also okay when you first open the bag. After two or three days of being open it'll go downhill fast. It's just physics. More surface area, more expoure to oxygen. More loss of aromatic compounds. If you care, you really want to get the freshest roasted coffee you can find in whole bean, then grind it right before you use it.

>>17185327
>>17185337
>>17185343
are manual coffee grinders okay?

I just don't want something big and bulky

>>17185333
Beans from the supermarket are exactly as good or shitty as the brand you choose. Plenty of stores carry since decent brands like counter culture, you just have to figure out what's available where you are and see what you like.

The biggest issue with getting whole beans from a store vs from a specialty cafe or directly from a roaster is it's a lot harder to get stuff that's been roasted super recently, but even if the roast date was a while ago whole beans that have been properly packaged will still stay relatively fresh exponentially longer compared to any preground shit you can possibly get.

>>17185350
There's plenty of autists here who swear they're the only thing worth buying.

If you prefer a manual grinder that's honestly in your favor because it means you can get a better grinder overall for the amount of money you'll spend since none of your budget is going towards a motor and such.

>>17179147
so you put the grounds in water for two days then what? what do you make?

>>17185359
Mistakes mainly

>>17185350
Yes. They are very good now and the ones in the $100-200 range grind as well as the very expensive electric ones. I'll let other nerds rec good, inexpensive ones.

>>17185361
seriously is there a way to use... used coffee grounds or are these fresh?

>>17185363
Don't take this as a specific endorsement of any specific grinder but just off the top of my head the ones that tend to get shilled a lot:

>1zpresso
>Kinu
>Timemore
>Comandante
>Kingrinder (kek)

thoughts?

>>17185359
theyre freshly ground
then i siphon out the majority of the liquid and put the rest through a filter
spent grounds go to the compost obviously

>>17185389

>>17185393
hopefully it tastes good am trying

>>17185389
you obviously don’t care how your coffee taste, so why should we care about your stock photo?

>>17185389
It's good

Just got a Bellman stovetop steamer, what am I in for?

>>17185766
A spicy asshole if you play your cards right

>>17185766
a well textured milk once you get the hang of it. do you have a proper jug? how do you brew your coffee? moka pot?

>>17178403

why are all your oragami images so hillariously zoomed in as to completly obscure the background and give no context to the image?
you take picturs like my 80 years old farther

>>17186055
I despise context and narrative coffee photography. I would prefer if his images were even closer. I do not wish to see the context of the inside of his house at all. I would prefer macro shots of coffee crap even. In fact, I think I will get a macro lens for my camera and spam XTREME closeups of coffee in these generals. No context. Only coffee. Self-referential coffee images that are abstract and beautiful. I am tired of people selling me lifestyles. I am tired of your story. I am tired of being told what to think. It is all an illusion. There is only coffee.

>>17185144
Superior V60 photo.

Guys I finally went to the cafe and got a 20oz latte, it's pretty good
She didn't ask me any follow on questions about the drink, but she did ask how my Christmas was
I panicked a bit, cause mine was kind of lonely and depressing, but then I just said it was good.
>>17182208
I couldn't tell what machine they had, it was behind a half wall and I didn't see any logos or labels.
It's different from this one though: >>17182283
So, they must have gotten a new one at some point

>>17185405
i thought you were trolling me, this is just cold brew, anon

>>17177180
i love these lil niggas like you wouldn't even believe
sometimes i use it for coffee, sometimes i use it for tea, but mostly, i use it for alcohol

>>17186319
based home coldbrew
why waste money on expensive gadgets when you can make coffee with the same hose you use to: drain the aquarium, fill the humidifier tank, and siphon gasoline out of the lawnmower?

>>17185144
I've got the 02 variant of that server. It's cute.

>>17186507
I like it well enough, thinking about getting the drip decanter to replace it as my daily driver though

Filtrofag here again, started my first attempt at an angled base to improve retention. Now we wait and see if this temperamental piece of shit cooperates.

>>17186638
the fuck are you doing, anon?

>>17186438

Don't forget: administering cold coffee enemas. That $0.65 length of PVC tubing is the best investment you'll ever make.

>>17186656
Exactly what I said in my post, attempting to make an angled base for my grinder.

>>17186680
what degree of angle are you going for?
you got a photo of the underside of the grinder?

I know you 3D printer fags like to come up with the most convoluted solutions to the simplest problems, but I can come up with 3 ideas that don't involve a 3D printer and I'm not even familiar with that particular grinder

>>17186744
15°, it's the eureka mignon filtro, not really sure why you want a picture of the bottom, it's just a flat base with a few screws holes. There's not really anything convoluted about taking an already made model for exactly this from thingiverse and printing it, I needed a project to test this thing out with anyway, got it secondhand for free. Calm down bro, the plastic melty printy boi won't hurt you.

>>17185355
>>17185351
>There's plenty of autists here who swear they're the only thing worth buying.
I've seen discord autists with 3k espresso grinders who swear by their commandante for filter. Coffee is weird. If you spend $150+ on a hand grinder you're going to be happy for years and know if you're at all interested in pushing your budget later. Take your pick.

I've had to replace the plunger on my Aeropress twice in three years. Is that typical? Is that rubber deteriorating and getting in to my coffee or is the plunger just compressed from use?

>>17187054
>Is that rubber deteriorating and getting in to my coffee
yes

>>17177180
coffee is for pussies

>>17187110

>>17187135
wittle baby didn't feed his addiction today?

>>17187142
What addiction? I only drink decaf.

>>17187274
decaf is for even bigger pussies than real coffee
consider suicide

TW: 3D printer


For anyone who cares, it's coming along nicely. Had a bit of an issue with one inner corner near the back there not adhering correctly but it's sorted itself out now and the only part affected won't matter or be visible on the finished product. It won't finish until sometime tonight while I'm asleep so I'll see how it turns out tomorrow.

>>17187411
>You wouldn't download a coffee machine

>>17187427
I'm gonna print an Eagle One and you can't stop me

>Bug Crawled into my coffee machine
>Gotta stake it out now until crawls out so I can kill it

On second thought maybe I'll just print a SGP, might end up having less plastic in it.

>>17187442
Nah don't bother, boil him out and when he floats to the top you get a free snack

>>17187411
level your bed, idiot

>>17187503
It's got an autoleveler, and the layers go down perfectly, there was just an issue with excess filament from the extruder getting caught on the edge and fucking shit up in that corner, had to pause it and clean everything up then let it keep going to see how it turned out and luckily it seems to be fine so I didn't have to start over.

got some medium roast stuff from the local roaster and all i can taste is some acidity at first and barely any other flavour or aftertaste no matter the grind size or water temp, did i get ripped off?
first time i've ever tried a medium roast btw

>>17187564
Print some better beans

>>17187411
What are you using the 3d printer for?

>>17179215
painfully new

>>17187411
I probably would have just printed two wedges and be done by now.

>>17187727
Just making a stand for my grinder to hold it at a slight incline that's meant to help reduce retention.

>>17187739
Would've looked shittier, been less useful as a test for the printer, and given me like options for expansion later. I'm probably gonna end up making one of the matching catch trays to fit in the front of it, possibly with a stand to hold a dosing cup just below the chute, printing the full stand gives me the option of attaching the two so it's all one piece.

>>17187727
What's the topping? Looks delicious.

>>17187816
Topping is a biscuit crumbs; all together taste like tiramisu

>>17186319
I move that we allow this image to stand in for cold brew tower

Could you replicate this at home?

>>17188184
no

>>17187574
huh

>>17187442
What kind of bug?

>>17188184
I was making daily lattes for two or three years and I could pour about that well. Stopped because the cleaning was annoying and I started to prefer black over milk drinks.

>>17187054
>>17187070

do you store it with the plunger inside the tube?

aeropress plungers are made of silicon (newer ones)/rubber (older ones) and you can easily restore them by boiling them and then pressing them out at the edges

>t. just did that with my 5 year old model

>>17182558

Based Bodum french press enjoyer. I have the same model but in white

>>17187919
im here for it

Update on the grinder stand, print ended up having some kind of issue like halfway through that I'm gonna have to diagnose, but turns out the piece itself was slightly undersized for my grinder anyway so it won't quite drop in past the lip.

The model I'm using was supposed to be designed for the specialita, which I was under the impression has the same case dimensions as the rest of the mignon line, anyone know if that's not the case? I'm not sure right now if it was the designer's fault, a scaling issue, or I was mistaken about the filtro having the same case footprint.

>>17189563
sucks, bro
but that's rarely an issue for me when I cut bevels with a table saw or machine parts on the mill or tap holes for threaded offsets and rubber machine feet with threaded studs
but you keep on zooming with your 3D printer you'll get it right eventually I'm sure

>>17189582
lol seethe harder retard, I'm not really broken up about $0.10 of wasted plastic from a failed print that took 10 minutes of active effort to set up and forget about.

anyone knows if this is normal? >>17187564

>>17186171
extremely based coffee exclusivist anon

local electronics store has the sage bambino for €180.
should i buy it?

>>17189582
Weird cope but ok

>>17189834
Sure why not. Unless you hate espresso.

>>17189834
Seems like a pretty fucking good deal at that price assuming it's in good shape, I'd get it

>>17186313
anon we’re proud of you!
you got your coffee, had new experience, got an opportunity to use that gift card, got to interact with strangers in an unfamiliar environment, and you have the full support of everyone here at /ctg/

>>17190112
Thanks, I might go back today and get another latte
There's still money on the giftcard I think, I don't remember much was on it originally

>>17189563
>ended up having some kind of issue like halfway through that I'm gonna have to diagnose, but turns out the piece itself was slightly undersized for my grinder anyway so it won't quite drop in past the lip.
Sounds like printing test wedges was the right thing to do after all. Once you get you angle right you just print some "pockets" on the base you print later to fit the wedges.
>>17186313
>>17190181
Proud of u.
>get another latte
Try a cortado pal.
Proud of u.

>>17190239
Half the reason I did the print was to test out the printer on larger pieces to see if it had any issues, printing test wedges wouldn't have exactly done that, and it's the exact same amount of effort for me either way.

>>17190351
>and it's the exact same amount of effort for me either way.
But one of those ways you've got something usable that would tell you whether or not you want to tweak the angle. It would be a shame to print for 11 hours to figure out you wanted 16.5deg instead.

>>17190412
I'm not reinventing the wheel here, other people have already done this and like the results. The manufacturer just released their own model with this built in, I'm just going for the Jerry rigged home version. I'm fucking around with the printer and testing things, getting a working piece out of it on the first try would have been a nice bonus but I wasn't expecting it. It served its purpose either way.

>>17190445
https://www.fargo3dprinting.com/recycle-failed-prints/

>>17190498
cortadbros rise up

>>17190498
>latte
>300ml milk
I read it as 30ml all this time.
So that time I got a latte and it tastes like nothing, turns out it was supposed to be like that.

>>17178735
when do you think you're gonna be home, anon?
we need you to take some pictures

>>17187919
>>17189496
motion carried

>>17182558
very fine french press

>>17185144
not huge turnout and I was kinda torn between your picture and >>17186290 but I think you won this round

I scraped through the previous thread to find a few moar oc images
56% complete

>>17190789
I can pull some shots on the flair58 later. Just got a few lbs of a cheap blend from the roasterie to brew out of spite since the key isn't going to be here until at least feb. I figured I'd give someone else a chance to fill the center spot but thats a picture I pulled from google to show some anon the case a while back kek.

>>17177180
I got a moka pot, french press, and auto drip. Never used the "esspresso" side of it yet.

>>17190945
Better picture of moka pot.

>>17190789
Someone post an aeropress so we can at least get normal bingo, I would but I don't currently own one.

>>17190963
Haven't seen that one before, is that one of their stainless models?

>>17191124
No, aluminium. It's part of their rainbow/fiametta line. Bought it on Amazon. It was originally made for the Italian markets which are the better models to buy.

anyone? just me? :( >>17187564

>>17191455
How are you brewing the coffee? Pourover? French press? Lever-action Espresso?

>>17191115
Here you go. If someone wants to take a better picture, that's fine too.

>>17190498
>the most commonly known drinks are only different in how much milk was added and how foamy it is, things that never were and will never be standardized

They should've just called them all cappucino and you specify how dark you want it with size.

>>17188184
Looks like the hentai creampie

any recommendations for a decent cheap espresso machine? i used to have a shitty one and it broke, and was gifted a shitty drip coffee maker and i'm tired of it.

i know i'll be happy with the $30 one on amazon but if it's worth spending more i'll spend it, but looking at what they have it's either multi-cup boomer gizmos or something triple the price and functionally identical

>>17191498
pourover
still have to try with moka, it's the only other way (other than espresso) i think i can get a less bland cup. first time all i can taste is acidity with pourover though

>>17177180
I had to look up what a “Melitta” was. And then it made me think of this object I found in a flat in London 3 years ago, stashed away with the parts for the Hoover and it totally didn’t look like it belonged

Is this possibly a device for brewing coffee??

>>17192103
Here’s another picture of it

>>17192039
Without access to chinkshit your options are limited.
Even then, you're not gonna get anything better than a steam machine for $30.
Maybe look into used machines. The ones sold by people not even knowing what they are and are just trying to clean their house of junk from the 90s.

>>17192124
>>17192103
Nah, that's just parts for a hoover.

>>17191455
Some coffee is pretty boring. What is it? Cultivar, processing method, location, altitude? Is it common to get unremarkable coffee from a roaster? Yeah. Happens. Get a different one next time.

>>17192103
>>17192124
It looks like a funnel for dishwasher.

>>17192470
you could totally brew coffee in that thing tho
other pictures looks like it could hold a cone better

>>17179192
>t

>>17190239
>Try a cortado pal.
>Proud of u.
A cortado doesn't seem like enough fluid. I like big drinks
But I probably won't be going back tomorrow, maybe Thursday or Friday

Finally got some coffee from Costa Rica I've been waiting to try! Supposed to be like a fruity dark chocolatey wine. I did try the El Salvadoran and it was orangey and caramel & toffee. Got it for Christmas because my sister knows what my favorite local roaster is. Still got some regular coffee for the morning, I usually wait until I'm actually awake to drink the good shit. Anyone else do this?

>>17192154
i mean i'll spend $150 easy if it's actually good and worth the money, but looking at the shit that's for sale it's very obvious that it's more about convincing people the price they paid was worth it with stainless steel

the coffee machine i have has a clock to start brewing and an auto-shutoff after brewing but it just burns the coffee after 5 minutes so both features are useless. that's why i just want to buy the simplest one, i know the game and im not playing it, but maybe there's something people swear by

>>17193788
Are you talking about espresso machines or drip brewers anon? It seems like you're trying to compare the two which is fucking stupid since they're completely different machines fundamentally.

As far as "decent" espresso machines go the cheapest you're likely to find one is round about $300 new unless you want to fuck with manual lever machines like a flair. And even at that price point you're going to end up with something made of mostly plastic that's light as fuck and slides across your counter while you're trying to lock in the nonstandard sized portafilter, won't have a PID, and it'll be brewing at 15 bars with no good way to mod it down to 9.

Alternatively for around $200 you could get an absolutely top of the line drip brewer with a thermal carafe instead of a shitty hot plate so it doesn't burn your brew like a Moccamaster.

Or if you're really really cheap you could just buy an aeropress or a V60 cone and call it a day.

>sister and brother-in-law always hosts family gatherings/holidays now since they bought a gigantic house almost 2 years ago and can fit our gigantic family

>the only coffee they serve is through Keurig
>need to be awake to drive on the road, so I’ll just add milk to the shitty keurig coffee to make it somewhat palatable
>sister and brother-in-law don’t have regular milk of any kind, only flavored almond milk and flavored sugar-free creamer
>they don’t drink milk because “almond milk is healthier”, despite both being obese

I’m not a coffee snob, but come on

Trying to practice my latte art. Made an unusual image this morning.

>>17194539
Next time you visit, bring a pint of cream.

>>17194539
Just take some bottled/canned shit you can tolerate with you

Alternately, call your family every slur you can think of to ensure you're never invited back

>>17194539
I keep a kettle, propane burner, grinder, and pourover cone in my car. You should have a holidays/emergency coffee kit in your car. Fucking nothing is open when you have to drive way out to buttville at night on holidays.

>>17194567
looks like a sand worm from beetlejuice or a nice delicious uncut cock

>>17194751
You are assuming you can always get water and roasted coffee beans?

pic rel is criminally overrated and I regret paying 7 leafbux for it

Hey dudes. I'm new to pour over, I got a chemex and gooseneck kettle for Christmas. So far most of my brews have looked like pic related after pouring the water over the grounds. Is this normal or should I be pouring closer to the edges?

>>17188184
This is not very good latte art. Milk texture too thin. Hesitant pouring makes the milk separate leading to that blobby heart with an off center and pointy pour through.

So the answer is, not really. It would be quite hard to accurately replicate all of the odd errors I see here.

>>17195474
Grind is too coarse. That's a french press or cold brew grind. Try to get it about half the size. I understand that chemex filters are thicker, thus have a slower drip rate, but that's too coarse. And yes, pour in little circles. The idea is to end up with a fairly flat bed of grounds at the end. Pour around the edges or swirl or whatever works. Flat bed indicates a more even extraction. Everything should be evenly wet.

>>17195522
Additionally, you should be pouring the water in 2-4 rounds. Many people do a bloom pour first to extend overall time. You just get everything wet and wait 30-90 seconds before proceeding to the second pour where you wash down all the coffee that bubbled up on the sides. Then the third pour when almot all the water has filtered down, but gently so as not to disturb the flat bed. Nerds weigh out pours with a scale, but this isn't necesary if you've been doing it a while.

>>17195474
Compare that to
>>17178403
Which looks like water ran through the grounds more evenly?
>>17195363
Yes. You're not holding 50+lbs of beans at any given time?

>>17195522
>>17195549
>>17195704
Thank you guys. You're right that is the grind size I had dialed in for my French press, I was under the impression they called for about the same size. I'm looking forward to getting better at this, even with the mistakes I've been making it has made some amazing brews so far.

>>17195765
>I'm looking forward to getting better at this, even with the mistakes I've been making it has made some amazing brews so far.
Small improvements every cup. Once you figure out the strength you prefer you can tweak any "recipe" to your tastes. Just make sure you're rinsing the shit out of those thick ass filters and sticking a chopstick or something to keep your spout from choking off. If you want a real eye opening experience, try drinking some of the filter rinse water and see if you want that in your cup.

>>17187564
A roaster that advertises a coffee as "medium roast" is almost definitely a garbage roaster. Try other roasters.

>>17195907
What term should they use? "City roast"?

First for tricolate

>>17195907

>>17195937
No. They should be talking about the origin of the coffee: country, region, farm, cultivars, processing. And "medium" roast usually means quite dark relative to, I want to say optimal but I understand people have different preferences, typical high quality third wave roasters. By saying your coffee is a "medium roast" is an implicit admission of low knowledge, low quality green coffee usually, and likely a very mediocre roast that is taken much too dark. It is a heuristic for the roaster's approach to coffee - they gave up learning much too early, and accept mediocre results rather than challenge their own ego.

>>17195954
Yeah, this screams supermarket coffee. You will be reliability disappointed by coffee like this. Or at least I have been.

>>17195954
kek

>>17195958
This is the tism we're trying to avoid. Onyx calls their shit "traditional" and "modern". Conveys the exact same amount of nothing to the consumer.

>>17195973
So why would you want to avoid stuff like:
>origin
This indicates a few things, like terroir, and indirectly likely cultivars
>processing
This is one of the most impactful variables on coffee flavor. I avoid anything but washed these days, but some people really like naturals, honeys, anaerobic naturals, carbonic maceration, etc
>cultivar
This also has a large impact on flavor. An sl-28 will taste miles different from a bourbon, or a maragogype.

The problem is that the rabbithole goes deep. Deeper than an average consumer will go. So you have a roaster and team that knows enough about coffee to know what they want, understand the differences the variables I posted above make, and can make informed choices with regards to green coffee buying to suit these preferences. But the majority of the people they sell to don't care enough, or just haven't learned yet what all these things mean. So they fall to heuristics, which I think makes a lot of sense. And the dichotomy you posted (traditional/modern) or others that a variations on the same theme (approachable/exotic; chocolatey/fruity) catch the largest difference in preferences. Whenever someone comes into my shop and asks about the coffees I start here: do you like chocolately/caramelly or fruity/juicy. Then go from there.

How would you suggest that roasters convey information about their coffees?

>>17195973
Retard

>>17195765
>that is the grind size I had dialed in for my French press
try finer grounds for your french press, you can go quite fine until you hit astringency/bitterness in my experience. there really is no lower ceiling but taste, as you can't get channelling/uneven extraction in a FP. i grind mine fairly fine, just before it starts wanting to clump into dry pockets when your pour water.
regarding sediment in the cup, that comes from fines, and you'll get fines no matter your grind setting.

>>17196024
>So why would you want to avoid stuff like
This is the exact tism I'm talking about. Its a fucking bag of coffee. Buy it, drink it, buy it again if you liked it. If I want to pick up a cheap medium blend from a popular local roaster to conserve the SOs I've been drinking all year, why would I avoid that based on the arbitrary terminology they use? They did a custom blend for a few sam's clubs around town and I wanted to play around with something darker than I usually roast up. Its not bad.
https://theroasterie.com/collections/coffee?page=2&sort_by=price-descending
They've got your low altitude single estate mexican anerobic nattys too. Go nuts.

>>17196147
Your argument is that you like to remain ignorant, so others should facilitate that for third parties? Absolute brainlet.

The fact that you think "it's a bag of coffee" says it all really. Why are you here if you don't care and can't taste?

>>17196147
>They should stop putting the names of flavors on bags of chips!
>It's a fucking bag of chips. Buy it, eat it, buy it again if you like it.
>Who cares about arbitrary terminology like corn vs. potato?

>>17196174
My point is I've got 60lbs of single origin greens I have the supplier listings. If I want to buy some fresh "medium" blend locally I'm not going to let the tism of an arbitrary scale affect that. Until I'm getting artisan or cropster logs in the bag it doesn't really mean shit. Just drink the coffee. And I'm the bozo who stuck ~$700 of datalogging in a $160 scratch and dent flair.
>>17196208
Only fatfucks and children have a strict brand and flavor loyalty. I'd suspect there's probably alot of undiagnosed autism in the terminally obese and extremely picky eaters as well.
>tfw frito lay doesn't disclose their cheese origins or roast level of cheetoes. Gotta get me some pirates booty

>Sour cream and onion? What the fuck does that mean?
>I just start with Chip Recipe #1 and move on to #2 if I don't like them.

>>17196310
>Guatamalan la esperanza? Wonder what that tastes like. I should probably drink some. Think its "medium light" "light medium" or halfway between "traditional" and "modern"? Wait what the fuck drinktrade has their own definition of light medium and dark?

>>17196280
How do you miss the point this badly? You seem like you may have a personality disorder.
>roast log
That won't give you tasting notes. It won't tell you where the coffee is from, what process and cultivar it is. It also won't convey any information to 99.9% of people who understand what the other variables mean. Plus it would just make you feel insecure about your ROR, then you'd have to cope even harder than you are now.

The chip comments from you are absolutely batshit. Genuinely, without malice, seek help.

>>17196400
>Why yes I'd rather read about how a coffee tastes than taste it myself.
I'm also a big fan of reading flowery sales blurbs for bottles of wine I won't drink and cigars I won't smoke.

>>17177180
Recommendations for a cheap ass burr grinder?

>>17196464
see
>>17185372

>>17196480
>$300 manual grinders

I'm not a huge fan of milk drinks but pouring is a lot of fun.

>>17196507
>kingrinders are $39 and have STEEL BURRS

>>17196514

>>17196515
I don't really trust half the site being in gook runes.

>>17196530
Good. Means you're a bit smarter than the other idiots who got baited into buying and shilling them.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hand+grinder

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=eureka+mignon+filtro

>>17196280
>that bottom """roast"""
Saving electricity for more headphone cables?

>>17196514
>>17196520
Looking good

>>17196460
You read about it to decide what to buy. Imagine going to a grocery store entirely filled with unlabelled cans. That's what your argument is suggesting as an alternative.

>>17196587
Not the guy you are replying to, but that's clearly a natural process coffee. They look much lighter and smoother than washed at the same roast level.

>>17196515
>the schizo still seethe weeks later

>>17196587
Believe it or not those are all roasted to 390 in roughly the same time. Whats medium? Whats traditional?
>>17196692
Its the bali natural.
https://burmancoffee.com/coffee-profiles/indonesian-rfa-org-balinese-kintamani-natural/
>>17196669
My argument is you taste with your tongue. There's no need to sperg out or blacklist roasters because of their subjective labling scale or the fact they dare to print the word medium. Just drink the bag. If you like it, you'll order more. If not just forget about it. I've got some great coffee, roasted similarly to your
> typical high quality third wave roasters
of which the big ones are owned by the big second wave roasters anyway, and 2.5lbs of a good well rested medium roast blend to pull shots with and make some holiday cum yourself coldbrew.

>>17196758
>subjective labling scale
What the fuck is subjective about the processing style, farm location and elevation, cultivar, etc.?

>>17197053
>A roaster that advertises a coffee as "medium roast" is almost definitely a garbage roaster. Try other roasters.
>There's no need to sperg out or blacklist roasters because of their subjective labeling scale or the fact they dare to print the word medium. Just drink the bag.
>reeeeeee

Burman says you should push that Bali I posted to a medium. This means you should probably avoid all Balinese coffees and cease all ordering from Burman asap.

>>17197097
Meds. Now.

>>17190526
quite literally the best form of coffee

>>17190963
perfect

>>17191924
that's just fine, anon
i appreciate you playing

>>17192103
>>17192124
>>17192470
I'm gonna allow it
i didn;t know what a melitta was either i was just trying to find various names for pourover tools in order to get enough spaces filled on the card and assumed someone might have one
so now someone needs to brew coffee with a dishwasher funnel or vacuum attachment or whatever the fuck that thing is and then post pictures for great justice

>>17195474
that's a better picture of your hand than it is of the chemex
but you have a very cute thumb, anon

>>17195949
oc is appreciated i think this can stand in for a clever dripper, although i'll wait until the next (hopefully final) update
someone mentioned a clever dripper in previous thread and that's how it ended up on the card

in the same way, i'm gonna allow any metal pourover cone to fill in for the wave

and then we need a siphon, a percolator (with or without fish), and the little corner of normie mediocrity consoomer playthings
i broke pod machine into 2 separate things just to take up moar spaces

72% completed
come on /ctg/ we've got this

>>17197237
I'm going to have to make one in the morning with these delicious medium roast beenz.
>>17197688
Here you go.

>>17195765
You're welcome. Enjoy your coffee.

>>17197710
you might have tied with >>17181864 for best artistic photo
couldn't resist updating, thx

>>17197802
Literally just randomly turning my kinus dial and I get that gem in 3 shots. I don't even look at the numbers at this point. Need to either coarsen up just a touch to get it under 35s extraction or drop off .5g and push finer, but it was pretty fucking good as is. Balanced, rich, zero bitterness & I've been missing my crema drinking only lighter roasts lately. I'll see if I can't remember to make a webm in the morning.

>>17197848
>my kinuss winuss haha

I got a filter coffee machine, and summarily learned that even if I buy expensive grounds it still tastes like weak ass.
I’m going back to gold roast instant. Fuck you guys.

>>17197915
>expensive grounds
KEK

>>17197924
thanks for the useful input, dweeb

>>17197931
Its tastes like weak ass because your grounds aren't in contact with water long enough. Your grounds aren't in contact with water long enough because you're using preground coffee and can't adjust finer. If you can pull the carafe without dripping coffee everywhere you can let your grounds steep and stir/agitate the shit out of them early in the brew to get a higher extraction.

>>17186055
BASED anon btfo'ing zoomanon

>>17189744
CRINGE samefag argument bolstering zoomanon

>>17186171
That's not a bad idea. I'm stealing it but co-opting it with narrative through sequence

>>17186055
>as to completly obscure the background
Intentionally. I need my fucking indiegogo grinder to get here before I can make a splashboard/shelves on my bar. I'd rather zoom in on coffee than show the piece of cardboard I'm using to keep from scuffing my wall. Just going to build some storage onto a sheet of maple ply but I don't know how I'll want it all to fit until I use the grinder for a bit. I've got enough shit in my kitchen so I bought a slab of maple and moved all my coffee/tea shit into the office.

>>17198172

>>17198178

>>17198185

>>17198191

>>17198196

>>17198172
Nice. I've had my eye on a cool macro lens for a couple months. I got an extension tube to try out with my lenses, but it only made the itch stronger because the magnification level wasn't quite there. I really like how different and interesting coffee beans are. The narrative of time through coffee is an intresting idea to me. Just not the lifestyle of coffee narrative (oh, look at my cool shit! Look at my coffee station!). This bores me.

>>17198199

>>17198178
I may have posted this one before. This is about as close as I can get with my macro tube. Not scratching the itch.

>Just not the lifestyle of coffee narrative (oh, look at my cool shit! Look at my coffee station!). This bores me.
Lol fair enough. Not a bad effort with extension tubes. Macro lenses are fun but - not sure what you shoot with - try and make sure it's both a reasonably decent lens for normal photography and a focal length you'll use, because unless you're way into it, they can be a bit one dimensional and might sit in your house more than on your camera. But they're certainly good fun.

>>17198202
Macro lenses are way too expensive, luckily I was able to get 1:1 magnification with my 50mm. The massively reduced focus range is a problem though.

>>17198233
Yeah, I thought about it for a while. But it isn't just for willie nillies. I've come to the conclusion that I need a dedicated macro for other product photos. The intended coffee shots are just gonna be for fun. In case you're curious, I'm lookin at the laowa 65mm 2.8 APO (2:1). It's not expensive, and it's optically fantastic. Check it out. Gotta shoot f/5.6-11 with a flash to get more shit in focus.

My new job has one of these. I don't start until next summer but I'm already thinking I may just stop making my own coffee completely. I hate mornings and am more than willing to just have the everyman coffee from this thing when I get to work

>>17198248
And just like some of the Chinese manual coffee grinders are fucking great, so too are some of the Chinese manual lenses.

>>17198248

>>17198172 here - yeah nice, I've heard pretty positive thing about Laowa's output. FWIW the photos above are shot at f/2.8 on an XT-3 with a Fuji 80mm macro. Even at f/11 on APS-C the depth of field is pretty limited but it's sharp and the stabilisation is pretty decent which doesn't hurt.

>>17198277
Laowa seems like it's either really good, or crappy and gimmicky. That 80mm is fucking expensive. Too rich for my blood. How's the AF? Put a flash on that fucker and try f/8.

I'd like to see a crazy macro shot of some medium roast bloom if either of you can accommodate.

>>17198296
Oh, I just love the oil slick rainbows on coffee bubbles. I'll try to take shots of that when I get a decent lens.

>>17198293
The AF isn't bad. Floated element which bothers people when they pick it up and it clunks, not fast enough for sports but not slow, and plays nice with what is a pretty decent AF system on the XT-3. I'm not the other anon that replied to you worried about DoF on their 50mm - I do use speedlites or a strobe with it if I'm doing something semi-serious but for shits and giggles here I went to wide open.

Interesting how many coffee nerds are into photography.

>>17198327
I find it interesting how many parallels there are between coffee and long range precision rifle shooting.

>>17198393
Explain? I don't shoot.

>>17198248
>>17198277
Just focus stack

>>17198322
The dof is thin but that's not the problem. The problem is with an extension tube the usable focus range is very short, like 10-12cm from the sensor. So even with focus stacking you're not likely to get anything deeper than 2cm entirely in focus.

>>17198427
>the usable focus range is very short, like 10-12cm from the sensor. So even with focus stacking you're not likely to get anything deeper than 2cm entirely in focus.
Yeah righto. Haven't used extension tubes in probably fifteen years to be honest and never really put much time in with them. Focus stacking with the 80mm is not amazingly promising - it does breathe a little too much.

>>17198430
Eh mine breathes a lot and stacks fine.

>>17198427
>>17198430
I don't like the corner distortion with my macro tubes either. It just bothers me. Any little flaw of the lenses seem to get hugely amplified. Even with lens correction I can see it and it bothers me.

>>17198424
Ok, so you'll have to bear with me a little because I haven't cogently put all the pieces together before so I'll try and step through some comparison.

Making good espresso on back to back shots requires good components, good technique, and good control of variables. You need an adequate grinder, an adequate machine, decent, fresh coffee. You need to be able to dose fairly precisely, distribute and tamp consistently shot to shot, pull the shots in a consistent manner. It's very helpful to either remember or keep a record of preferred dose, grind level and output, particularly if you change beans a lot.

Shooting long range requires the same. You need an adequately good rifle/optic, decent ammunition. You need to be able to execute the fundamentals of marksmanship repeatably - natural point of aim, sight alignment, breathing, trigger control. You need to be able to read the wind precisely, account for distance and environmental factors. It's very helpful to keep a record for how much you compensate for distance with elevation at various difference distances, how much wind affects your shot at those different distances, particularly if you change brands of ammunition a lot.

If I try a new coffee, I can look at where my grinder is already and make an educated guess for a starting point for the new beans. I can pull a shot, assess time/output, and then have a good idea how much I need to correct the grind for. If I shoot out to distance on a windy day or at a range with lots of factors affecting wind's effect on the bullet, I can make an educated guess, look where it lands, and make a correction with a good idea how much I need to change.

On a purely superficial level, I keep track of how much I compensate for wind or distance on my scope in "clicks." I also keep track of how I compensate for grind on my grinders in "clicks."

>>17198199
>shooting in manual
>hipster

>>17198248
If you are doing a lot of product photos, you should spend a couple of grand and get a tilt-shift macro lens, that gives you more options on where the plane of focus lies;

>>17198523
Tilt-shifts are fun. Had the Canon 24mm II for a number of years and it was optically glorious as well as handy for what it actually did.

cheers /ck/. I just graduated from instant coffee and got my first pour over and I think it's going pretty well. I'd like some advice on what to get for brewing more than one cup. Should I just get a Chemex or are there better alternatives to it?

>>17198523
They're outside of my budget (and ability level). Maybe some day. My philosophy with photography is the same as with coffee: the convergence of the best quality I can get for the least amount of money.

>>17198172
>>17198178
>>17198185
>>17198191
>>17198196
>>17198199
>>17198208
yeah but then you gotta stitch them together

>>17198748
I'd like to see a macro shot of of a coffee poop at the end. The temporal coffee exprience.

>>17198789
Or something more tasteful. A flush handle or something representative of the coffee poop.

I was just thinking about combining my favorite sub-genres of macro: coffee + jumping spiders. Imagine!

>>17197915
>I bought an overpriced piece of shit nobody told me to and shitty overpriced supermarket ground coffee and it tastes bad

Oh no who could have predicted this

Coffee snobs are so fucking retarded. I went to visit my dear old mother for Christmas and she has one of these new fangled coffee areopresses that takes 5 minutes to make only one cup of coffee. Mr. Coffee is all you need and I'll fight anyone who argues otherwise.

>>17198173
What do you brew with the phone?

>>17198273

>>17198871
>5 minutes for aeropress

Maybe if you're a literal retard with no arms

>>17198871
How long does your Mr. Coffee take to brew a cup of coffee?

>>17198748
That's actually kinda beautiful light

>>17182027
French press because the kettle is useful for other things and it's dishwasher safe, more versatile than a moka pot

Mahouts cappuccinos and latte have thick peaky froth? Or should it be flowy microfilm? Every cafe I’ve ordered one from has very stiff foam that hold their shape. Is that normal?

>>17198873
Phone shows my pressure and flow from the SEP and scale.

>>17197688
here's some fucking k pods is that good enough?
I was at costco but I couldn't find a machine to photograph

>>17199357
should be flowy microfoam
most places don't know what the hell they are doing

>>17199681
how bout dis
the Keurig brand grounds holder makes an almost decent cup of coffee. this is my emergency office machine

>>17199922
Communal pod machines are disgusting, you know damned well nobody ever cleans them

>>17199927
but anon, it's MY office.

>>17199922
alright, we only need
>a nespresso
>a thrift store espresso machine
>a percolator, preferably with fish inside
>a metal pourover that's not a phin
>and i dont got high hopes for seeing a siphon but we need one of those too

>>17199954
i'm siphoning in my cold brew pic though
or is that a brand?

>>17199954
I know my grandmother had a percolator, but I think we tossed it when we settled her estate.

>>17199959
It's a particular system with a flask that pushes water out into a brew vessel when heated, and sucks back through a filter when it cools. There is a very steampunk version of this available for a sizeable sum. Impressive looking, but not that great coffee.

>>17199987
>googles
oh that looks retarded
is that not basically a glass moka that's been stripped down? I thought that's what a cutout of this >>17190963 basically was.

>>17200004
My understanding is that a Moka uses steam pressure to push hot water through the grounds and then through a filter. Extraction time is short. A siphon uses the steam pressure to push hot water into the brew vessel, and then vacuum to pull the water back out through the filter. Extraction time can be longer.

>>17199914
I figured but wanted to confirm after starting to look into buying an espresso machine. I might just go through with it since it’s been the same experience in all the coffee shops around me. Also I didn’t realize I was typing like I had a stroke kudos for understanding what I was asking.

>>17199987
>a very steampunk version
your talking about a belgian balance brewer
it operates on the same principle although in the brew vessel the grounds just sit there under the water and the heat source is extinguished automatically with the brewed coffee getting sucked back into the chamber before proper extraction can occur
its a novelty and a gimmick, but no serious coffee company manufactures them

a proper syphon or vacuum maker uses a seemingly convoluted method of brewing but is actually simplistic than a french press to operate and produces a very clean cup of coffee

>>17200158
I don't suppose you have one currently, do you?

>>17200004
>>17200158
I like how the writers of this scene show Gale's autism through his somewhat elaborate siphon system and recipe. Which he runs dogshit sumatran beans through kek.
https://youtu.be/pJ83kt4a2-A

>>17200229
I just ordered a hario syphon yesterday, not because of this thread although it made me think about them all of a sudden
the inlaws gave me a modest check as a gift for christmas and figured I should get something for myself that I otherwise would never justify spending money on despite kinda always wanting

it will not arrive in time to be of any use to completing the bingo

>>17200367
You'll probably want to add a beam heater asap.

>>17200481
supposed to arrive the day before the syphon itself shows up
and on the third day the paper filters will arrive because the thought of reusing cloth makes me sick just thinking about

you'd think amazon could just put all this shit in one box and only have to come out to the house once rather than 3 days in a row

>>17200514
Good shit. Can't wait to hear about it. Always seemed like a $500 bit of fun memery to get eventually. I could probably get some antique shit cheap and have a friend blow some custom glass, its just whether or not I want to invest the space in it.

TFW want to experiment with different pour over ratios and grind size but also want to be able to sleep. Do you guys just pour coffee down the drain to try another cup?

Still haven't drank the chocolate, winey beans from Costa Rica, I might drink one a bit later. I've really liked the El Salvadoran but these other ones I've been waiting to try for quite some time. Might just try a cup in a few minutes, I've only drank one today anyway.

>>17200706
Just change up your ratios and shit each day and log your results, dialing in your grind for pourover shouldn't really be that difficult since you should just grind finer until you start tasting bitterness. Once you find that sweet spot there's no reason to change it for pourover even if you're adjusting other variables

>>17185766
some bellman stovetop steamer coffee

>>17202319
>no milk or sugar just a little hydrogenated soybean oil and milk and sugar

>>17202319
Stovetop percolation is expresso now?

>>17202319
>stovetop percolation
>espresso

>>17202551
Could be talking about a Moka pot. It sort of resembles a percolator if you don't look too closely, and it could actually handle finely ground coffee.

new thread?

>>17197915
Why the fuck would anyone buy a drip machine? I'm so glad the euros invented espresso before they came to Australia so I never had to see one of these machines here.

>>17198172
this is /ck/, not anon's first 50mm 1.4 story

>>17203230
I gotcha, son:
>>17203687
>>17203687