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>>17141287
you can buy this whisky in europe no? i've seen it in supermarkets in the uk

>>17141287
It's a decent bourbon but it's not good enough to justify the price. I'd rather get Bulleit.

>>17141294
Bulleit, wich one? thank you Sir.

>>17141292
Yeah I just bought it, I live in Belgium and the whiskey choice is extremely big and I'm a bit lost.

>>17141305
I prefer their standard bourbon. The rye is good too but I only use that for mixing.

A pic I took from where I bought my Maker's mark.
What should I try?

>>17141322
No mixing for me, thanks mate.

>>17141326
anyone ever tried the plate valley?

>>17141305
>>17141326

not that person, but I like Bulleit and Four Roses, both small batch. There is a noticeable differences between standard and small batch, I'd say try both but if you're importing you might as well go for the higher quality. Four Roses has more of a sweetness to it, Bulleit is more balanced. Maker's Mark is decent, a bit of sweetness, but I'll get it if I'm not sure what I want.
Wild Turkey 101 sounds almost gimmicky at 50.5% alcohol, but it's shockingly good for it's alcohol content; a lot of depth to the flavor.
Buffalo Trace is, imo, the gold "standard" good bourbon and I keep a bottle on hand at all times (and I rarely drink).
From that shelf:
Definitely Eagle Rare, Buffalo Trace for certain. Those are universally loved. You should eventually try Knob Creek, Elijah Craig, Blantons *eventually* (it's a bit of a meme whiskey, its good but you mostly pay for the brand). Then figure out which you like and why and branch out from those flavor profiles into similar/other.
But honestly Eagle Rare/Buffalo Trace always draws my attention.

>>17141347
thank you Sir.

Is knob creek worth it?

>>17141287
Makers Mark is a really good starter whiskey, because it's very mild, sweet and has a strong vanilla flavour. Even my gf liked it and she has an aversion to whisky. Especially scotch though.
Also those prices are fucked up. Can you import stuff from Germany? You'd get everything for at least 10€ less per bottle.

Woodford reserve is a staple in my cabinet. Excellent neat and blends well into cocktails.

>>17141326
Jim Beam is good if you just want something to get you drunk. It's nothing special but it tastes fine. It gets the job done. If I'm going to get wasted I don't want to be drinking a really good whisky because then I won't be able to savour the flavour. Jim Beam is good as a shot with a beer.

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>>17141287
Maker's Mark is good but rather expensive for its mid-range quality. Try some Evan Williams black label, it's cheaper but I think it's just as good.
Another one to look for is High West's Prairie Bourbon. High West makes several good whiskeys but the Prairie Bourbon is the cheapest one they sell and it's still very good. They're also the only booze manufacturer from Utah that I'm aware of.

>>17141326
2nding buffalo trace, though my go-to is old granddad if they have it

>>17141287
If you can find it, Blanton's or Basil Hayden. Top shelf bourbons without spending over $100. Youd really be treating yourself, theyre both incredible (esp. Blanton). For whatever reason, you almost cant go wrong with any whiskey that starts with a "B".

Also I think Makers Mark is the best on the market for the cost. Cheap enough to mix, good enough to drink straight. And for Blantons, each bottle has a unique top on it that spell out the name. Lined up, they show a race horse running. People will actually buy full sets

>>17141326
Weird pricing

anyone rating buffalo trace above makers mark is a meme merchant who has no idea about whiskey. buffalo trace is sub Jim beam

>>17141338
I'd say it's more enjoyable than Mellow Corn even if its minimum proof and 2x the price AND made by McCormick .

>>17142893
>MGP
>from Utah
pick one

>>17141326
Eagle Rare

>>17141347
I’ve heard people say Blanton’s is overrated, but I just dont see it. It’s excellent IMO. Of course it’s hard to buy for a non-meme price, but that is true for all Bourbons these days

>>17143003
Bro you’re lucky to even find Blanton’s and it’s often over 100

>>17143003
Lmao

>>17141412
In a "whiskey bar" now, ridiculous number of options, I'm having a Beam. It's the baseline. If you want to learn bourbon make friends with Jim and then explore.

>>17141412
Old Crow too

>>17141287
Good choice Anon, Makers Mark is based

I CAN'T FUCKING GET THE FUCKING CAP OFF
FUCKING HELP

Why are so many bourbons sickly sweet?

>>17141326
In order of what I know from experience,
Buffalo Trace=Blantons>Knob Creek>Elijah Craig>Evan Williams Single Barrel>Eagle Rare>Bulleit>Makers>Four Roses

>>17144073
makers mark if you're relaxing with some folks
wild turkey if you're feeling pissed
four roses if you're feeling mellow

>>17143696
ITS NOT TROO

>>17141287
4 Roses, single barrel.
Yellow Rose.

These are ones that I always keep on my bar.

My friends swear by Balcones, but I'd put it just above maker's in quality at about the same price.

>>17141326
the eagle rare or michters if you want to try rye. I see small batch elijah craig over there I'd recommend that too. In general though, small batch and barrel proof >>>everything else
>and furthermore Buffalo trace delenda est

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>>17141326
Is that 39€ for the Jack Daniel's Rye?
Last time I went to the store I saw that stuff going for ~24€ here in Germany.

My adopted brother loves whiskey so I wanted to get him something nice but not too expensive (I'm a poor student) and found this. I read reviews online and apparently it's very good. Anyone had experience with it and is it good? Would an experienced drinker like it. Its Bushmills 10 year aged single malt

>>17145194
It's pretty mild and mellow. A good start to get into whisky but not really something i'd buy someone, who already had some experience with different whiskies. You still can't do anything wrong with Bushmills as a gift though.

>>17141287
Knob Creek, preferably Single Barrel. Or Eagle Rare if you can find it.

>>17144060
Americans invented it, what do you expect?

Would I get a nice Christmas-y drink if I were to mix whiskey with either cream, sourcream or milk?

>>17141326
>90 euros for pikesville
hilarious
just get buffalo trace, eagle rare if you like it

>>17141326
Holy fuck that JD Maple (in the gold box) is unironically great for sipping.
But it was basically a single (albeit kinda large) run so it’s too expensive.

>>17141287
Maker's is ok and a good everyday sipper. I'm sure you pay a mint to import it. I would research and get some of the Japanese whiskys before they are so far out of reach.

I use it for old fashioneds , it's a solid burbon.

>>17141287
Is what’s in OP’s pic good for a Sazerac?

>>17141287
I like Maker's Mark and don't mind Jim beam. Bourbon in general has a better taste than other whiskey

>>17146047
Yes.
>>17145309
Bourbon in eggnog is really good. Plain cream - I don't know. Maybe with some chocolate liqueur or spiced liqueur.

>>17141287
I like Maker's Mark.
>>17141326
As some have said, Bulliet is good, and I've also heard good things about Knob Creek but haven't tried it myself. Rye whiskey is also worth a try because of how different it can taste.

>>17141326
four roses or buffalo trace
>>17143033
>Weird pricing
this lol

>>17146047
Sazerac is usually rye. Though bourbon won't kill ya. It will be sweeter.

>>17143244
I appreciate that the bottle has Jiggle Billy on it.

>>17141326
Going slightly outside of what you're asking. To the left of the Pikesville there, you can barely see Rittenhouse Rye sticking out. A very solid rye, great for cocktails or sipping if you've not had rye before.

Need whisky recs asap

is loch lomond any good?

>>17143290
It's over rated for the price but definitely one of the best bourbons I've had. I haven't found it for under $150 in almost a year. The last time I bought it I paid about $60 and won't pay the extra $100 for it.

So I bought this bottle of four roses small batch thinking it just came in a box for whatever reason. Turns out I got something extra kek

>>17141326
I was going to reply, but
>>17141347
this guy nailed it

>>17145648
I still have about half a bottle. I dont know what you mean, I thought it was like a overly mellowed version of gentleman jack. Like if someone just took all the character out and watered it down

>>17146959
Seriously?
You don’t taste any of the maple?
It did start out as “gentleman” because it was No7 that went through the Lincoln county process twice, but then went into maple barrels.

Current haul due to recent birthday mostly as I usually drink cheap blends mixed with a little malt to increase the quality.

>>17146431
personally I like it. dont think that just because its cheap that's it's not good or tasty. because in my opinion its all three. I bought it the 12 on a whim with no prior research and was not disappointed. the 18 is good for the price, but not terribly different then the 12. less obvious peat on the 18, but one anon here has a real bone to pick with the it nothing that its "undrinkably bitter ". the 18 represents a higher age well enough especially considering the price and integrity bottling(46% abv, nonchill filtered, no color added) under $75 USD in 2021 is a steal if you can find it. definitely get the 12 first and make sure you like it before getting the 18.

>>17141287
I think you should try american rye whiskey. Knob creek makes a decent rye, if you can find a more obscure rye like peerless or something else get that.

>>17141326
Do the Yellow Rose Rye. Do you drink rye? Its very different from bourbon. More earthy, spicy and its got a punch. But not a hot alcoholic punch, a spicy earthy punch. It's great.

>>17141326
not a bad selection. at these prices would probably do eagle rare. blantons and michter's are solid too. buffalo trace is fine

>>17141287
overpriced meme brand

>>17147101
>describes something as “meme”
You aren’t actually old enough to buy it on your own, are you.

>>17144060
Scotch is far sweeter

>>17147230
Mainly the speysides

>>17147105
>decries the description of something as 'meme'
Do you think Maker's Mark has a good reputation because it's good, or because the public consensus has been cracked by shilling, advertising, and mass appeal to amateurs?

>>17147248
>Do you think Maker's Mark has a good reputation because it's good
Yes most popular things become popular because the general populous find them “good”
>or because the public consensus has been cracked by shilling, advertising, and mass appeal to amateurs?
I know you might find this hard to believe, but most people don’t subscribe to internet “consensus”. What the fuck do you even mean by “amateurs”? Someone who isn’t an e-celeb?

>>17147082
thx anon. distribution around me is spotty so i'll be lucky enough to find the 12.

>>17141326
>entire shelf of JD
I feel like we need to inform the international community that Jack daniels barely even qualifies as whiskey.

it's good but i don't really care to spend that much on a whiskey. if you can find a bottle of evan william's bottled in bond, it's the best value whiskey you'll probably ever find. tastes good as hell

>>17141326
they have every meme brand there. buffalo trace and eagle rare are hype vehicles, not exceptional whiskeys, anyone telling you to go for those does not know what they're talking about.

the best thing visible in this picture is the bulleit and evan williams single barrel. the best whiskey you can buy for the money in america is generally wild turkey 101 or old grand dad in my experience.

>>17145194
scotch and whiskey are different categories even though scotch is whiskey. single malts/bourbons are very different experiences. you need to know if he's a whiskey drinker or a scotch drinker.

>>17147328
>Yes most popular things become popular because the general populous find them “good”

the "general populous" (populace, are you 12?) has an opinion that is formed by advertising and marketing, not by taste, hence you supported the dissolution of your own argument.

I repeat again: Maker's is a fucking meme.

>>17147784
>bulleit over buffalo trace
lol

>>17147833
bulleit is the thinking man's bourbon

>>17147082
The anon saying it's too bitter is just parroting Horst

>>17147833
uhh yeah buffalo trace isn't even good and you think it is becasue of stealth "natural" marketing

>>17141326
no idea what country this is, but the Blanton's are a steal and I've never seem them in the wild (aside from 375ml). buy them both.

>>17141326
>digital price tags

fancy. yuropeans really are from the future.

>>17148257
kohl's has em. they're e-ink

i don't get what the point is. not nicer to look at and certainly doesn't save any time

Boss got me a bottle of this stuff for the holidays. Pretty darn good.

I fucking hate this country's alcohol laws I just wanna drink

>>17141384
Knob Creek 9 and 12 are definitely worth it.

Speaking of whiskey... I inherited a crystal whiskey decanter recently and have no idea if it's leaded. I'd rather not poison myself just because whiskey looks cool in a decanter. Anyone know a good way to tell? Is there a lead test I could buy and try it out with some cheap vodka or something?

i only drink wild turkey 101 now

this

>>17141287
makers sucks ass
Makers 46 is decent though

>>17142893
High West is fucking delicious.
Utah has a few more booze distilleries, but they aren't as prolific as High West. Beehive gin's are really fucking good, Water pocket makes some niche stuff that's tasty too.

>>17141326
Of these, the Hudson's and the Blanton's will be your best. Jack Daniels is shit. All of them, compete dog shit. Other anons here regularly push Buffalo Trace and Eagle Rare, I find them both to be completely inferior products and would never recommend. The Maker's Mark you have is about as good or better than most everything else in the photo.

>>17141287
it's a pretty good whiskey. kinda reminds me of bulleit (it's kinda 'peppery')

>>17148925
As a follow up to this post, the Michter's is a decent brand, so are Knob Creek and Four Roses, but not at the levels available on the shelf. Knob is fine, but if you're going to spend the money I'd advise spending a bit more for the single barrel. Four Roses you should get at least the small batch. Jim Beam is a good mellow bourbon, great for lemonade drinks in the summer or with some peach schnapps. Cheap, but decent, like your Maker's.

But I cannot stress enough, absolutely do not buy Eagle Rare or Buffalo Trace. Any anons here pushing them have not tried enough bourbon to know just how awful those are, but want to sound more sophisticated than they are. I promise you.

t. Worked in a liquor store in the US for 4 years and drank a LOT of bourbon.

Which booze thread is the best to ask about rum in? I'm looking for an entry level £30/$40 bottle of each major varieties.

>>17148946
Doctor Bird Moscatel Cask Finish Rum is the best representation of Jamaican Rum.

Wild Turkey Reserve is one of my favorites.

>>17148946
What do you mean with varieties exactly? Britisch, French and Spanish style or even more graduate styles?

>>17148861

>>17148967
Very budget friendly, thanks.

>>17149194
As vaguely as you'd like to take it really. I've only ever had what's on my supermarket shelves but do enjoy it. I feel like I need to try a pot vs column, different regions, agricole, etc

So far I haven't seen a taster set that really provides a good intro, just 5 variety of one brand or specific niche.

Until recently I didn't particularly like Whisky. Last Christmas I was gifted an Arbelour 12 which I really enjoyed and read into whiskies some more, only to discover there are varieties I like. As I've always enjoyed even the cheap rums, I'm excited to do the same here.

>>17148260
>not nicer to look at and certainly doesn't save any time
I think the point is you can change them from computer instead of having people to run around and change them manually. Espacially useful in supermarkets, where the different products are regularly on sale.

>>17141287
It's alright. If you live anywhere near the pacific northwest try Big Bottom Barlow Trail Sherry Cask. Rings in at about $50-60, and mixed with mexican coke will be the best drink you will taste.

>>17149210
First of all it's much harder to get into rum than whisky as rum is a relatively new popular style of aged spirits in the old world. The community is smaller and it's harder to get some facts for the actual products. The lack of regulations in all the regions also makes it difficult to get into it. Also the regulations in the countries they're sold in. The USA has almost no rules at all while the EU got pretty specific.
British is definitely the easiest style especially, because some countries like Jamaica are not allowed to adulterate their rums. The most important being those can't add sugar, which is a huge issue with many producers of especially Spanish style rums and spiced rums. The latter could never be labeled pure rum in the EU anyways but the Spanish rums often had 40-50g sugar/l making them basically liqueurs.
But back to British style: Often very strong, robust and even sharp flavour. Best known for dark and aged varieties. The vast majority is aged in ex-bourbon casks as those are cheap. The age statement is the same as for whisky. Pretty much only molasses based. Distilling is mostly done with column an coffey stills but also pot stills to get very esther heavy rums that are often mixed with cheaper first ones to add tons of flavour. Another important part of the flavour is the usage of dunder in Jamaican rums. The mixing o different distlilling techniques also makes it harder to get pure rums from just one specific type. It's much easier to find those in America than Europe in my experience. Especially in your price range.
Spanish style rums are similar to British but much milder. They are also molasses based spirits mostly distilled from column stills thar are also aged in ex-bourbon casks. Although Spanish style rums are also widely known for un- or shortly aged (still some 3 years like Havan Club) rums often used for mixing. Ageing here can be extremely different from the traditional methods as some use the solera system.

>>17149306
Hit the letter limit. Look up the solera system and be carefull if bottles say a number but not actual years. The biggest problem with spanish style rums is the addition of sugar also called dosage. This can range from 5-80g/l. It can also be done with other styles of rum but no region is as notorious known as the Spanish, which often adds 40g/l in also highly priced stuff. The reason is that sugar masks the alcohol and makes the spirit more pleasant. So keep that in mind. You'd probably like every swill if you'd add so much sugar to it. Check sites like this for more informations http://rumproject.com/rumforum/viewtopic.php?t=1683&sid=fe72c7a5ebf5ae8cbac77e4e0e47c967
Then there's French style rums. Biggest difference is the usage of fresh cane sugar (juice) instead of molasses in their agcricultural rums. They are also just dilstilled in column stills. This results in a completely different tasting spirit. have you ever had cachaca? That's how it tastes. Very fresh, grassy and fruity flavours in young spirits while those get lost with ageing similar to brandies. The ageing uses the stupid French system so no numbers as statements but word codings. I'm also not exactly sure about sugaring. Most are dry but some have a very small sugar content. I suggets you to buy French rums as miniatures, because the prices are kinda high and you may not like them. Or buy some cachaca.
In general it's hard to suggest something when you don't know the prices and availabilities of rums. Appleton 12 is always a good start for an aged pure rum. See if you like the ageing character before you buy into more expensive specific rums.

>>17148266
Wellers gets alot of hate on here, but I've always liked it.
My boss surprised me with this. Never heard of it. I was shocked because I expected it to taste as smokey as a campfire, and as hot as one too because it's 116 proof. To my surprise it was smooth and not overly smoked, I really like it.

Maker's Mark is pretty trash by itself. Tastes like whiskey but feels like brandy. It's like eating candied bacon to me. That said, it's a lot better in a cocktail.

>>17141326
The only Bourbons that are really worthy are high proof bourbons, at least 100 proof, or 50% alcohol or higher.

Look for Evan Williams bonded 100 proof (white label), or Wild Turkey 101 at the minimum. From what I can see in your pic, The Knob Creek is the only 100 proof bourbon. I'd get that. If what's in your pic is the entire selection at that store, search around for other stores.

>>17146047
What are you an idiot? Is this a trick question?

Use what's in my pic for a Sazerac.

>>17141287
American alcohol is dogshit.

>>17141326
Out of all of those I'd go with eagle rare

>>17141326
bulleit 10
elijah craig

I had Jim Beam and it was horrible compared to scotch.
stanky as hell, what is up with that

>>17151436
Just regular Jim Beam?
Idk why it was stinky.
But it's bottom shelf bourbon. A bottle would cost like $11 here. Buy something nicer like Knob Creek 9 yr or Old Grand Dad 114 or even bottled in bond. Those are both Jim Beam brands that are great.

>>17151445
honestly it was so bad i think it mustve been a bad batch

>>17146657
>It's over rated for the price
This.

It's a damn good whiskey but artificial scarcity driving prices through roof makes ANYTHING overrated. Glenmorangie Signet is a god-tier scotch at $300 but apply meme price inflation to it and it would become a $1k+ whisky, no thanks.

>>17147788
>the "general populous" (populace, are you 12?) has an opinion that is formed by advertising and marketing, not by taste,
No.

Teenage rebellion 101 is thinking popular things are only popular due to advertising and marketing. It's about time you grow up and develop more nuanced opinions.

Also
>grammer nazi at any age
pathetic

>>17148946
>Which booze thread is the best to ask about rum in? I'm looking for an entry level £30/$40 bottle of each major varieties.
Where do you live? Rum market in America is pretty damn inexpensive. $40 can get you almost anything including some top shelf offerings. I'd recommend Papa Pilar ($35) if you want something damn tasty. Their dark rum is excellent but if you want something more unique their blonde is incredible and tastes of melons and vanilla. If you're looking for a larger distiller for more variety in taste and price then I'd go with Plantation. Their entire line is excellent, especially their cheaper offerings.

>>17148946
grander rum

>>17149351
>all that
>recommends fucking Appleton as a starter
Jamaican rums are a style of their own, I certainly wouldn't use that as the first step into aged rums.

>>17147230
Kek. This is objectively false.

>>17141287
its good
>>17141294
makers mark is cheaper than bulleit for me

>>17141326
knob creek
elijah craig and bulleit are all very good
bufallo trace ive heard is good but i am uncertain.
if you have the money try those ones

>>17141326
i got a 1l bottle of the old bufallo trace for 30€ at an online store in germany. online is almost always cheaper and better range.

I'm trying to decide between Ardbeg 10 and Laphroaig 10, which one should I go for? I want smoke in my veins, something like the Bowmore 12 which was bliss for me, but I cannot find it anymore. I've tried some other peaty whiskies (Lagavulin 16 and Talisker 10) but they didn't please my need for pure smoke. The reviews say Ardbeg is smokier, which I dig, but also they agree that Laphroaig 10 is better (and it's slightly cheaper as well). What would you pick in my case?

>>17153969
Ardbeg is better in every way.

>>17151628
Of course it'a already a style, but it's an adulterated rum with a real age statement that's available everywhere for a fair price. It's also not as strong as many Jamaican rums made for mixing. He also asked for a price range in pound so the range won't be that wide anyways.

>>17153969
current runs of both are little one dimensional for me. Ardbeg 10 tastes dense, but not so complex, but also doesnt hold up to water all that well(still does decently). allegedly the Corryvrecken is essentially the 10 at Cask Strength. Laphroaig 10 has a common negative from most reviews as being too low in proof at 40% UK/43% NA(even though the distillery suggests diluting your dram with 2 or 3 parts water to 1 part whisky at that proof), but also has the Cask Strength version of the 10(supposedly better quality casks used too boot). although Laphroaig doesnt have half the meatiness Ardbeg does, it can provide more nuance with occasional fruit and spice notes.
tl;dr Ardbeg is like eating a piece of mint-chocolate wrapped in bacon covered in fresh driveway tar and Laphroaig is like eating a shrimp tail that fell into the ashy coals of a campsite grill. hope this helps!

>>17141287
It's good.

>>17153969
Ardbeg 10

>>17153975
>>17154020
>>17155198
I'll go for the Ardbeg then, thx guys

>>17141287
Makers mark is better than most higher end bourbons. Best value on the market

Op here, here is a part of the rums available in the shop I went last Friday.

Also a nice wine selection.

>>17155280
>Makers mark
>Best value on the market
lol

Your store carries a rather small wine selection, surprisingly. Also looks like the do tastings and stuff when you're not getting buttfucked with lockdowns – you should probably ask the store staff.

Also, I live in slavland and get to have buffalo trace and four roses for less than 20 dollarydos

>>17155298
Comfy shop

>>17155389
>Also, I live in slavland and get to have buffalo trace and four roses for less than 20 dollarydos
how does that work?

>>17155471
Idk about the Four roses, but the Buffalo trace he's buying is 80 proof not 90 proof.

>>17144085
Dammit Gayder, the damn Karenfarms ALAWGS are on 4chan now!

>>17141326
Why not simply get all the well-known names first and if you want more the more obscure later?

>>17155479
Pretty sure 45% abv is 90 proof, and retails for 1600 ish rubles, which is like 20 bucks. We have a good supplier in Russia

>>17155537
>We have a good supplier in Russia
Donald Trump?

>>17155537
dang you sure do. next time i'm at the likker sto i'm slapping biden i did that stickers on every price tag in the bourbon aisle.

>>17155537
>Pretty sure 45% abv is 90 proof, and retails for 1600 ish rubles, which is like 20 bucks. We have a good supplier in Russia
Nice, I thought all buffalo trace exported was 80 proof.
Have you tried Wild Turkey 101?

>>17155544
It's the guys that make (or distribute? not too sure about the finer details) Beluga vodka. During the pandemic they started opening their retail stores and business is booming. Basically if your country has a "fuck you" huge booze distributor you have a high chance of running into some nice deals. My condolences to the al/ck/ bros in Scandinavia though

>>17153639
t. manchild

>>17155547
Was planning on picking it up actually, along with some woodford

>>17155621
>My condolences to the al/ck/ bros in Scandinavia though
Prices in Scandinavia are not that bad, Canada or Australia are much worse.

>>17155812
Genuinely surprised at this. What is even worth buying there? I know australia at least has a huge domestic wine market so that must be nice

Can I get a QRD on whistlepig? Is it an overpriced meme?

>>17155838
over priced but good.

>>17155838
Overpriced and a meme to be sure, but they are very good at barrel-aging other people's whiskey.
It's kosher, though, so avoid it if you don't like paying people who employ Jews to do Jew magic over your liquor.

>>17155883
>have pig in the name
>be kosher
is there no limit to their guiles?

>>17141326
Before you listen to these people recommending buffalo trace check if it's the 40% or the 45%. The 40% is bad and apparently the 45% is good. As far as I know the european bottles are the 40% more often than not.

>>17155812
Denmark and Sweden aren't that bad. But you don't even want to know about Norway and Finland

>>17141326
The Blantons is fucking good anon

>>17155797
>drinks corn syrup
>calls others manchild
Based unselfaware pleb

>>17141326
These are Utah prices.

>>17141326
I'd say Elijah Craig isn't worth the price. Try Woodford Reserve if they have it.

What is THE 4chan whisky?

>>17157852
6PM
https://youtu.be/XehwSM9n_Ko

>>17141326
>Nobody spotted the Rittenhouse trying to hide in the corner

Get that, good shit

>>17157852
Black Booster

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>>17157852

>>17157854
KEK

>>17141287
I don't wanna be that guy, but you won't find good whisky for under $600 a bottle

>>17157897
Underrated

>>17157868
I have a friend who swears by it.

>>17157868
>Best before Dec 2012

>>17157752
You have zero self awareness

>>17143033
electronic price tags so they can jew you immediately

>>17158058
>drinks the sweetest type of whiskey known to man
>thinks he’s not

>>17155838
literally alberta premium with some meme cask finishes
just buy alberta premium

>>17157852
Old Granddad 114

>>17158097
I'm sorry your taste buds are btfod and you find scotch to not be as sweet
You really are just a manchild I don't mean to make you upset

>>17158122
Objectively false…again

>>17158122
>>17158128
you're both retarded shut up

bourbon is usually sweeter than scotch but it isn't sickly

really dunning-kruger retards going at it in these threads

>>17158139
>bourbon is usually sweeter than scotch
This is common knowledge. 9/10 bourbons are sweeter than scotches.

>>17158139
>really dunning-kruger retards going at it in these threads
Bourbon is uniquely American.
If this doesn't explain the hate, I don't know what to tell you.

>>17141287
Save your money and buy some Hennessy.

>>17158558
No thanks I have a father.

>>17158170
both spirits are intrinsically sweet, but in different contexts. Kentucky Straight Bourbon is mostly sweet at its core due to corn, wheat and barley and then on top of that the heavy vanilla, caramel, butterscotch, toffee, chocolate etc. gained from a heavily toasted/charred fresh oak barrel give you the impression of desserts or breakfast pastries.

Single Malt Scotch again being 100% malted barley and matured in a multitude of casks containing bourbon and wine and rum are sweet on sweet combos that can give off totally unique flavor profiles a contemporary palate has not likely to have experienced before similar to flavored vodka or liqueurs without the adulteration of the alcohol itself.

that's why scotchfags seem so anal to nonscotchies because there should remain an inherent quality of the product that the big companies constantly seek to remove at the cost of profit margins. bourbon is less ridiculed because a) it's hard to make a bourbon so bad that normies will notice/care and b)its America product for Americans, dont think just drink.

saying bourbons are generally sweeter than scotch is a little unfair to bourbon as they are only just now starting to play around with finishes and other things inside the regulations that will either be updated soon or a subgenre will be created to prolong out this boom.

I mean unless you get new craft distilleries beta test bottle that's 99.9% bitter oak tannin they all have the same range of flavors but simply in a different combination. And sure, to a degree that still can happen inside the Scotch market but you have to be really unlucky or stuck with supermarket selection to experience it often.

hmm is the big difference in taste between scotch and bourbon from the charred wood (more wood flavor?)

>>17158558
sorry i'm a poorfag

Best bourbon: Buffalo trace (fuck makers mark. Shit is overrated trash)
Best scotch: Johnny walker black label (affordable. Blended scotches are better than expensive shit)

>>17158917
The real difference comes from new oak barrels needing to be used, and it needing to be 51% corn.

>>17143226
You have no idea what you’re on about. I bet you’d buy pic related thinking “it’s good” because it has a giant display case in front of the store

Maker's is a family favorite for me. Almost all of the whiskeys are good, just different from one another. Some are super filtered which makes them "smooth" but takes away a lot of the goodness that seasoned whiskey drinkers come to love. Maker's Mark 46 is something special, or the regular barrel proof if you can find it is one of my personal favorites, except I don't recommend anything barrel proof to a newbie

OP should try some kinda Jack Daniel's. The standard old no. 7 does have a taste to it that many will describe as paint thinner or glue. But it's one of my favorites anyways, if only for nostalgia, and probably the best selling whiskey. If you get the more expensive varieties, then you won't get that chemical taste. It kinda grew on me though and I guzzle the stuff like no other. From the pic you posted Blanton's and Eagle Rare are probably the best. Not sure what that is directly to the left of Blanton's so if it were me that's what I'd probably reach for

Buffalo Trace is pretty standard stuff, no "better" than what you've already had. It's well-regarded because of its price point, and because of the reputation/marketing of the distillery

four roses is interesting in that they have such a variety of releases. high rye, spicy stuff

>>17157969
Is he a cannibal?

>>17159000
>four roses is interesting in that they have such a variety of releases. high rye, spicy stuff
A local farmer raises corn exclusively for four roses. He has to go thru a lot of shit but the price is worth it. From there it gets hauled in by a friend of mine, contracted out by MGP. He doesn't drink and I would always get his Christmas bottle. The master distiller would always set a small batch out for employees around the holidays. Bottle was always unmarked, always in the straight bourbon bottle, and always good. I think his son in law gets it now, the fucker.
>"hurr durr MGP trash"
Almost every distillery on the bourbon trail is supplied by them, and the farmers still have to meet standards set by the distillery

>>17158945
the rye is better

>>17159350
If you like rye then yeah, it probably is

>>17158945
this is legit good

>>17158618
Virgin oak will always be intrinsically sweeter than refill barrels. You can’t finish a bourbon in a used cask, it won’t legally be a bourbon. That’s a huge cope.

>>17159940
Lately they've been able to call it, Bourbon finished in whatever.

>>17158103

>>17141287
I like it even though I haven't had it in a while. I just found out they make a 101 proof whiskey so I'll get it the next time I stock up at the liquor store. Finally got myself a bottle of Penderyn, been meaning to get a bottle for the longest time and heard nothing but great things about their whiskey. I always have a bottle of Wild Turkey 101 laying around the house. Just stocked up on good beer and a bunch of canned cocktails too, both from the same local brewery/distillery. They really do make a great gin, never was that much of a fan until they started making it. Got a few of my friends a bottle each of some local apple brandy for Christmas. Going back to the liquor store in a few days just to buy a few other things for Christmas like a bote or two of Veuve Clicquot, some good brandy or yak and some beer for one of my friends because he doesn't drink that much liquor and I'll get some for myself just because I'll be there.

>>17160584
Technically not a bourbon, but a “Distilled Spirits Specialty”. Still doesn’t change the fact that the finishes won’t make the bourbon LESS sweet.

>>17159140
mgp is great, fuck anyone who says otherwise, they must not have tried willet family reserve

>>17160888
>willet
>4yo high rye bourbon
>150 bucks
LOL

>>17161319
just get the rye

>>17161319
I would have added
>SOURCED
but yeah

>>17151500
>can't spell
>accuses people who don't unquestioningly consume popular products of immaturity
You are Schlomo's favorite specimen.

>>17141412
>Jim Beam is good if you just want something to get you drunk
might as well buy Everclear if you just want to get drunk

>>17141287
Tastes like actual ass and cobwebs

For me it's Wild Turkey 101

Love this general

bump

jim beam tastes like acetone

>>17164888
Try knob creek 9 year then, idk why people expect bottom shelf to taste good.

i have a bottle of baker's 2019 with the "old" design. is this going to appreciate in value?

>>17165115
Sure all old bourbon does, is it worth it though?

>>17165126
i'm not refined enough to get anything extra out of top shelf liquor, so if someone is willing to give me 2 or 3 times the retail price for this bottle, i'm going to say yes, it's worth it.

bump

Is midwinter nights dram worth it at $150

>>17141326
Buffalo trace is def better than makers at that price point. Four roses seems like the best value (least marked-up, and pretty good stuff). Eagle rare is nice, but almost double the price you'd pay here (when you can find it here. shit's always out of stock). I would skip Jack Daniels and Jim Beam.

>>17167479
it retails for more like 100 but it's very tasty, I'd pull the trigger

>>17167479
there's so many better options in that price range, don't fall for christmas marketing.

>>17146664
>Rose shaped ice moulds
That's pretty neat actually.

>>17155922
>whistlepig
Slang term for groundhogs/woodchucks

>>17168613
the angels envy rye is much cheaper, I'm thinking about getting that instead

>>17168897
Me, I wish they went back to the glasses.

I don't drink bourbon but my uncle said this stuff was good so I picked up a bottle
how's it compare to some of the other names I'm seeing pop up?

>>17169351
> I must have a meme american whiskey for the holidays!

>>17170495
It's great, idk if a beginner would enjoy it as much, but it's a really good bourbon for the price.

>>17170508
bought it to drink with my brother, he's a big whiskey guy
should be good, thanks for the thoughts

>whisky
>everyone is talking about bourbon
phoey. i recommend The Balvenie

>>17170496
being a purist is boring

>>17170573
OP posted a shelf of american whiskey... But yeah, I would expect scotch prices to be cheaper in EU, and possibly better value.

>>17170589
>bening a bourbonbabby is boring
FTFY
and being a CONSOOMER is a trap

>>17170573
I like the 12 Doublewood, but the rest of their offerings are a little too dull for the premium they demand.

>>17170601
>I would expect scotch prices to be cheaper in EU, and possibly better value
You wish. Scotch prices have risen over the years while bourbon (except the meme swill) got more available and stagnated or even got cheaper.

>>17170693
when the tariffs got enacted they went both ways. the ones for imports into the US got lifted first and then in late summer the EU ones stopped. Scotch can be cheaper as an import into the US than on their own turf due to ridiculous taxing. although the selection/availability is nite and day better for UK.

>>17170654
nice to know it aint just me. im super meh on everything of theirs past the 12.

>>17170495
It's at the top of the chart! >>17171338

>>17171406
Russell's Single Barrel is better and about the same price

>>17141287
Very sweet for a bourbon

>>17171465
>Russell's Single Barrel is better and about the same price

Yah don't say. They should put it in the chart. Or did they already, Captain Observant?

>>17170638
I'd like to see you.
There is a certain kind of post that cannot be produced by a healthy person, and you consistently produce that kind of post and only that kind of post.

>>17171465
russels is 10-20 dollars more expensive almost everywhere in the us

>>17141287
Suntory Toki Whiskey. It's one of the smoother Japanese Whiskeys so if you're more into the taste and not the burn/heartburn then you can enjoy it a bit more. It's actually not super expensive even imported but not sure they'll have it in Europe.

>>17141287
>bourbon
Imagine drinking corn.

>>17172581

What are you drinking on Christmas eve anons?<span class="fortune" style="color:#fc532d">

Your fortune: Merry Christmas![/spoiler]

>>17141326
That is not the whiskey isle, you are in the bourbon sections, get a fuckin taste.

>>17173015
The same thing I drink every night: cheap vodka.<span class="fortune" style="color:#ec117e">

Your fortune: Happy Kwanzaa![/spoiler]

>>17173015
Ipa's and some whiskey (dalmore and/or dahlwinnie)

>>17172721
thats the wacky thing about bourbon
I can find russels for $50 in some places and rare breed for $60 in others

Just bought a bottle of this for myself as a Christmas present. Gonna have Penicillins for days.

#fortune

>>17172727
Smooth is a meaningless word.<span class="fortune" style="color:#53fc2d">

Your fortune: Bah! Humbug.[/spoiler]

>>17141326
knob creek is good at like $30.
Don't know about 60 euros

having some glendronach 18 and some kavalan solist sherry cask that i bought on a whim when i made some money on shitcoins. really though, i don't understand why people pay so much for these. don't get me wrong, they're fine but the difference from mid shelf products is marginal.

>>17173948
Cheers, & to that good ol' Green Giant, you've lasted as long as I could humanly stuff you at the back of the cupboard.

Anyone got any cheap high proof recommendations? I'm talking at least 70-75 ABV. Oh, and not evermeme.

>>17141384
also asking this question

>>17175087
The answer is yes.

>>17175087
Try to get the 9 year old one.

>>17175095
all knob creek is 9 yo

>>17173948
>>17174900
Based Laphroaig bros

>>17175120
even knob 12?

>>17175268
yes

>>17175271
wild

>>17172833
>>bourbon
>Imagine drinking corn.

No, sir. Drinking either of these (>>17143244) is drinking corn. Drinking Bourbon is just drinking mostly corn... Mostly.

Should I drink tonight?

Drinking has ruined my life in many ways but I am literally all alone tonight and tomorrow on Christmas day.

What do you guys think?

>>17173948
I legit thought it was a meme but it's pretty relaxing. I do love my sherried scotches like Grendronach, but Laphroaig is a nice pair with the chocolate-covered mint Oreos I got as a gift.

>>17175017
Since you've obviously ignored the previous posts in this thread, I'll repost the whiskey value chart.

>>17175357
Do some research. About 100 years ago or so, busybodies started commercializing this Holiday which previously was only known for hooligans getting drunk and cavorting.

In a way, drinking and getting drunk around this time is actually observing the traditions.

So, to answer your question - yes.

>>17175120
Some places still have Knob Creek NAS.
My Total Wine does, but the other store I go to has 9 Yr.

I'm drinking a lot! I have Wild Turkey 101, Penderyn Legend, a bottle of 100 proof local apple brandy, a bottle of gin, tonic to mix, Australian ginger beer for mixing & chasing, good hard cider, good local stout, and to top it off some St Bernardus Christmas Ale. Merry Christmas anons and if you don't have any to drink I'll drink plenty for you!

>>17141384
If its the 9yr single barrel or the barrel proof rye, absolutely yes.

>>17175373
Where’s the scotch version of this?

>>17175351
Cope

What whiskey has left you wishing you just bought something else?
I find myself not a big fan of 1792's flavor profile
Same thing with non whiskey row Old Forester, too bitter for a bourbon
Ezra Brooks 99 is a scam, its just EW BIB but even sweeter and more expensive

>>17143003
2nding this
Blanton's is hard to come by but well worth it
my buddy manages a Grocery store and basically get's it straight from the vendor whenever they can get it.

>>17175879
i stole my best friend's blanton's and gaslighted him into believing that it wasn't me even though it was obvious that it was me. and yes, it was worth it.

>>17174417
yeah, my Christmas gift to myself was gonna be a Glendronach 18. bottling date 6/16/2021, still 46%, un-chill filtered, "natural cask imparted color" but its not moving off the shelf. before it would be gone before it made it to the shelves, but its $200ish after tax and thats just too much. it would be a pariah and i would hate myself everytime I poured it. I noticed also that its only Olorosso now and not PX and Olorosso. wish I could find a minature so I could rid myself of the itch. instead I'm getting a handful of good bottles that I can savor and enjoy instead. I have a Glenallachie 15(as I've heard its like a Speyside version of the Glendro 18)on standby I might be picking up Monday if something else doesnt catch my eye first. For now though pic related will do, might even pour some for a family member for the expected reaction despite all my advice.

>>17175873
>Ezra Brooks 99 is a scam, its just EW BIB but even sweeter and more expensive
thats how i felt about OGD bonded but more citrusy

>>17143003
Don’t listen to this anon. Blanton’s is a marketing meme.

>>17175966
>>17175966
blanton's is the real deal and you're a weak ass bitch that wasn't able to find a bottle

>>17175938
Based. This and the Laphroaig 15 are the best bottles I’ve seen so far in this pathetic “whiskey” thread.

>>17175970
Keep shilling for a meme bottle. I bet you collect the corks too.

>>17175916
Honestly I hope you're just gaslighting me, cause if you actually did that you're a real piece of shit.
no cap on god

>>17176064
Blantonschads are machiavellian sigma males

>>17175988
too bad there's no e or d in blantons

>>17176077
Checked and kek’d

>>17175861

>>17176285
It's definitely unapproved because you're supposed to start with Glenfiddich 12.

>>17175861

>>17175861

>>17175873
Glenlivet 12, Dalmore 12 and Glenlivet Founder's Reserve.

Both G12 and D12 taste the same as Glenmorangie 10, to me, except more expensive.

Founder's Reserve just tastes like slightly watered-down G12. Fortunately it's less expensive than G12.

>>17175861

>>17176329
had the founders at a bar, super thin, and light.
decent for beginners

>>17176285
>>17176303
>>17176316
>>17176378
Do you personally prefer scotch to other whiskies?

>>17175373
Looks like YOU didn't read anon. Not fucking 70 proof, 70 ABV. All of those are weak.

>>17176489
>>17175017
Why do you need >140°?
>>>maybe make your own or find the local moonshiner<<<

>>17176522
Why not? Anyways my local store stopped carrying the cheap 151 I like, and I can't order online in my area. Just trying to find other high abv liquors to get me drunk for less effort.

>>17141287
Test

>>17173015
Yukon Jack because it was cheap as hell for 100 proof and I just needed something quick at the liquor store while Im staying at my parents'. Its not bad but noticeably syrupy and sweet

>>17176303
>>17176316
>>17176378
Someone give me one of these but in political compass form

>>17176296
Glenmorangie is lighter/easier to get into

>>17175988
I'm an oldfag and at one time I could always find blantons at retail, usually with dust on the box. The marketing and memes have definitely been ramped up, but it's always been a good small batch bourbon.<span class="fortune" style="color:#01aad0">

Your fortune: You got an extra thick slice of fruitcake.[/spoiler]

>>17141287

99.99% of whiskey is a neckbeard weekend warrior smoke a cigar wearing a bathrobe while watching netflix or playing halo or going to the club with a brand new expensive shirt and buying drinks for women and not getting danced with all night meme shit. Same with scotch and brandy, it's a cool kids club except everyone's a fag and ultimately turns into a buttfuck bro orgy because there's no womens. "Oh yeah i like to slowly sip on a glass of Dewar's in this glass i bought at the smoke shop for 20 dollars and a massive single ice cube and i smoke this very specific cigarette while enjoying my friday night scotch brandy cigarette night watching the new avengers movie with my discord chat"

Tell you what, this is what you do:

Shower once a week.

Find a hobby thay you can turn into a career.

Be honest with yourself and others.

Stop being a fag. I mean, if you're into dudes go for it, but what I mean is stop being a fag.

Buy a handle of Old Crow for $20.

Never make this cringe ass thread again. I'm so fucking over whiskey culture, you fucking fags just like the cool olde english weeb art on the labels that makes you feel sophisticated in your cultureless filth.

Go Old Crow and go home.

>>17177299
Nice pasta

>>17177361

It's just a bunch of fart water that sits in a barrel for a long ass time. "Oh hmmmm there appears to be hints of hickory and licorice, yes yes fascinating" fucking fart my dick.

>>17177299
Good job posting one of the very few bourbons that is actually fucking atrocious

>>17177528

Might wanna let your nails dry before you start throwing punches

Why can’t Americans into ABV?
Why are they using the retarded proofing system

>>17157852
Cutty

Man looking at the scotch choices in this thread, the American selection must be quite grim

>>17177626
We have both listed on the bottle, what are you on about? Besides, ABV is just proof divided by 2. What a ridiculous thing to bitch about.

>>17177640
Both are listed, yes. But speak with any bourbon enthusiast and they will always refer to them by their proof, rather than just saying the ABV

>>17177299
Nice pasta, but on the small chance that this is serious please fucking shower more than once a fucking week. Nobody is forming gay social clubs based on the type of liquor they drink. If this post is serious I see a whole lot of projecting going on here, perhaps it's time to reevaluate your life choices and figure out how you fucked everything up.

>>17149476
Smoke Wagon is all MGP distalite and it's quite good. The guy who runs the company is a total fucking asshole. He does a rare and limited release every once and a while and instead of, i dunno, making a few more cases he makes fun of people who can't get it.

>>17176408
>Do you personally prefer scotch to other whiskies?

Not really. I'm American and I prefer Bourbons to Scotches. Someone asked for the Scotch version of the whiskey value chart, and there's no real equivalent of that, so I just posted all the Scotch whisky charts I had.

>>17177626
We use both in the literal sense.
ABV is just 50% of proof.

New Whiskey general thread >>17179290

>>17177213
I don't think glenfiddich is hard for anyone to get into.

>>17178228
lol i looked up their IG page awhile back and almost every picture on it featured the owner