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drink a lot of it

>>17149358
This, but actually. Try many different styles of wine so that you can notice the differences between them. You'll eventually discern levels of sweetness, types of grapes used, and which styles of bottle are ideal for cramming up my ass.

>>17149358
This.
But be careful. Good wines cost a lot. And after you got used to the good stuff you cant go back to drinking piss.

>>17149343
>wine
tits or gtfo.

>>17149343
Go to wine tastings. They're everywhere.

>>17149717
>>17149894
yep, need to do tastings with multiple wines at a time.

if you have friends you can probably convince one of them to cook and youll bring 2-4 bottles of wine, you can try what you like best with the food etc.

>>17149343
not have a shitty sense of smell or taste like i do

>>17149343
just figure out which kind you like in terms of red or white, merlot/cabernet/chianti.. pinot grigio/chardonay/etc. and use that to buy bottles in your price range.

>>17149343
>feels like
that's exactly what happens
give those people a blind taste test and they'll fail it

>>17149343
>feels like most "experts" just spew random adjectives they see fit while they violently swing their glass
You could apply this line of thinking to any hobby, it's nonsense and expressing this opinion only outs someone as somebody who knows nothing and wants to feel superior in their ignorance. However, the fact that you want to get good at wine means you aren't one of those people.

We all start off ignorant and can only grow from there. Best way to get good at wine is to drink more of it and take notes. Grab a bottle and open it without reading anything about the wine. Write down your thoughts on the smell and taste then check some official reviews of it to see what experts think. You'll begin to learn the proper terminology over time, words like "stone fruit" or "slate" don't make sense until you can pair that vocab with what you've actually experienced. Keep doing this and you'll learn a lot. You'll eventually learn what styles you like, what you don't like, and you'll explore from there.

I highly recommend John Cleese's (yes, that John Cleese) "Wine for the Confused." Excellent non-pretentious introduction into wine for the every day person.

>What does it mean to be good at wine?
Is a more interesting question. How do YOU define "good at wine"? What's your end goal here? What do you want to be able to do?

>>17151553
>wants to feel superior in their ignorance
how condescending, as expected of someone who wants to feel superior in calling wine "liquid viagra"

>>17151610
Ohh man. This is great. I totally nailed your ignorant ass and it hit such a nerve that you got all defensive and made up some bullshit to attack me. Ctrl+F and the only instance of "viagra" is your post.

Most of my post was actually constructive and encouraging and yet you latched onto the part that made you feel inadequate. Instead of getting defensive you could grow from this and ask questions as OP is doing. There are a number of good posts here to help out anyone actually trying to learn: >>17149717 >>17149894 >>17149943 >>17151441

>>17151768
>more condescension
ego the size of a house

>>17151779
Astounding

>>17149343
I've gone from beer to tequila to rum to malt liquor to vodka to vodka to vodka now to cheap wine, usually pinot grigio or however you spell that or cabernet sauvignon. It provides a better drunkfeel for less. Take this info as you may. I'm 35 and an experienced alcoholic

I don't get wine.

>>17152028
Tell me that cat is sharing that, he's going to be messed if he drinks all that

>>17149343
You don’t. Sommeliers are full of shit. The premium wine market is an excuse to part fools from their money. Remember the sommelier scandals from a few years ago?

>>17152396
what are these sommelier scandals from a few years ago?

>>17151443
Theres this Korean guys channel who tries to trick a wine master in every way possible and he's always able to tell. Sometimes he can even tell what region and vintage the wine is
https://youtu.be/w4RakOEZpMQ

buy bottle of wine, drink bottle, pass out

>>17152453
From Joodepedia:
>The 2018 Master Sommelier exam cheating scandal was disclosed in early October when the board of the Court of Master Sommeliers, Americas (CMSA) voted unanimously to suspend indefinitely the Master Sommelier credential awarded to all but one of an unprecedented 24 candidates who had passed its stringent annual membership exam a month previously at the Four Seasons Hotel St. Louis.[1] The decision was taken after the CMSA's board learned that one of its own members, Reggie Narito, had passed advance information about two of the six wines candidates had to identify during the blind tasting section, considered the most challenging of the three portions of the exam. Two of the successful candidates, to whom the information was known to have been passed (a third had failed), unsolicited, were barred from retaking the exam for three years. All the others were allowed to make up the exam in December at no charge; six passed. Narito was expelled from the organization[2]:4:38 and lost his Master Sommelier title.[3]

There’s also one from 2020 where male sommeliers were using their status as master wine men to ra*e a bunch of women in the wine industry.

>>17152487
and this proves that somms are full of shit how?

>>17152497
Why would they need to cheat and r*pe women if it were a legitimate science? It’s a cult designed to fool retards and r*apists like you.

>>17152546
man the rape game must be pretty good there if people will cheat to get in

>>17152546
fuckin yikes, you gotta be 18+ to post here faggot. take a hike

snnnnniiiiiiffffffffffff...oh yes my dear....sssnnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiffffffff....quite pungent indeed...is that....dare I say....sssssssnniff..chestnut I smell?......sniff sniff....hmmm...yes...quite so my darling....sniff....quite pungent chestnut yes very much so

>>17152702
rent free

>>17149343
wine rots your teeth, sip whiskey

Wine tastings. Me and my friends love going to them, tons of good wine and the curator will likely have a great selection. Its also a fun way to get smashed and pick up milf numbers.

Seriously though, there is alot of wine from alot of regions. Start out trying atleast every major variety of grape. Then start getting into countries of origin. I am currently really enjoying lebanese wines.

I bought a malbec today, 19 crimes. I'm the guy who was started on grenache by an anon a couple of wine threads ago. anyway wine good.

>>17153693
were you looking for something heavier?

>>17153767
no it was just nice. wish I could find the anon who put me onto grenache and helped me when I wanted to try wine

>>17154033
you're talking to him lol

>>17152487
>There’s also one from 2020 where male sommeliers were using their status as master wine men to ra*e a bunch of women in the wine industry.
Incorrect. The one big name guy (Fred Dame) slapped women on the ass so he got cancelled.
Another oversaw the MS exams of 2 women he slept with. From what I remember from the article there was no rape but sexual assault and harassment that the CMS overlooked for years to where a lot of the wine industry has discredited the title.
Even then MW is a far better program and title that rewards theory and knowledge moreso then blind tasting autism.

>>17154033
I was also probably a person pushing grenache/garnacha in the last thread.

>>17149343
I don't think wine is the neatest thing anymore, you can find good-quality wines down at Tescos now.

>>17154078
ok well thanks heaps bro I never thought I'd be into wine and here I am a bottle and a half deep breaking up with my gf thanks

>>17152350
That cat can hold his booze better than you can, faggot

>>17152546
>>17152487

Why the fuck are you censoring "rape"?

You can trick those "wine experts" by dying a white wine red and they'll go praise it. Fucking retards. However, wine is garbage anyway, so it's not like you can tell garbage from garbage accurately.

>>17149343
>>17149358
Also know what you are eating them with
This is where all that "pairing" stuff comes from
Sometimes a dark wine tastes better with a steak etc

>>17154231
uhh hope you made the right decision dude

>>17155559
re-read those studies properly bucko

>>17149343
>feels like most "experts" just spew random adjectives they see fit while they violently swing their glass
you're already there.

DRINK BEER FROM THE BIGGEST CORPORATION YOU CAN FIND INSTEAD YOU WOMAN/HOMOSEXUAL/EUROPEAN
CRAFTSMANSHIP AND THOUGHTFULNESS ARE FOR PUSSIES

>>17157036
when I read posts like this I really am reminded that /ck/ is one of the lowest intelligence boards on 4chan

>>17149343
>feels like most "experts" just spew random adjectives they see fit while they violently swing their glass
Because that's exactly what it is. Somaliers are shysters.

>>17149343
Like most things, there's jargon invented by experts that's useful internally, and there are hucksters who use the jargon to sell shit to confused punters. "Strawberry" on the label doesn't literally mean it's got strawberries in it. As you try more wines you'll pick up what chemicals people were trying to describe with those common-name notes, and you'll narrow down what you enjoy. You get good at wine by having a general understanding of what you like, and how to find it.

>>17151768
>This wine is heavily oaked, with overbearing tannin so astringent it almost burns the tongue. Chocolate and tobacco notes dominate, with a subdued fig or raisin note emerging at the finish.
>LMAO GRAPE NIGGER I DONT KNOW THOSE WORDS UR MAKING THEM UP

>>17157090
>namefag
>tastelet cope
>shit opinion
Like pottery

>>17155559
>we fooled a bunch of unskilled college students into saying dumb shit
>therefore this entire field they aren't even certified in is fake
Tastelet cope, as all such notions express.

>>17157475
not to mention
>can't spell somm