/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17103638
I blend everything at the end and enjoy meat smoothie.

>>17103653
Gross

if you dont add beans to chili all you're left with is a spicy sloppy joe mix

>>17103638
>no beans in chili
enjoy your meat water

>>17103638
Beans
Beans
Beans

>>17103638
i made chili once without beans, never again. beans add a lot of flavor. i use kidney beans

>>17103638
Ground beef chili without beans is only good as a hot dog topping.

>>17103653
Fpbp

Ground beef chili should have beans. Chili made with chunks of beef should not.

>>17103638
>beans don't go in chili,
both beans and tomatoes belong in chili, deal with it

>>17103875
the only tomato that belongs in chili is the paste kind.

>>17103727
so much cope. it's okay to admit you're poor.

>>17103638
What even is chili. Never heard. Sorry not America.

this is what chili looks like

>>17103896
If you're in the midwest, it's some kind of ragu that is topped with mounds of cheap cheddar. If you're in Texas, it's braised beef that you're allowed to sperg out about because
>muh competition rules
from judges that just don't want to fart for a week straight. For most people, it's a thick stew.

>>17103638
I'm both Texan and a Mexican.

It's good with and without beans.

Beans make it a far more substantial meal, and I wholly believe that cowboys would have used beans to stretch their fresh food.

Beans don't alter the taste, everything tastes like the spices. Beans don't alter the texture, everything feels like mush.

I appreciate where people are coming from not wanting beans in their chili, but I prefer it and believe it was historically accurate.

>>17103929
Why would you prefer it when you already admit it adds nothing but bulk? If you love beans so much, prepare them separately and serve them separately, so you can actually taste them.

Also
>historically accurate
la-de-fuckin-da.

>>17103917
Thanks. What is your favourite chili recipe?

>>17103942
1 pound beef
1/3 cup dried beans - I like red beans or pink (some call them rose around here, kinda like pinto, but not) beans, but whatever you prefer
2 prunes or 2 tbs tomato paste
1 tbs minced sage (1 tsp if using dried ground sage)
1/2 yellow onion diced
2 pasilla peppers and 8 chiles de arbol if you want it mild, 16 if you want it with a kick - substitute at will, just know what you like in heat and flavor and bear in mind that this recipe is intended to use dried chiles
2 quarts beef broth (home made is best, of course, but unsalted store bought is fine - if you can't find no salt, just use water)
1/2 cup cheap, but drinkable whiskey

soak beans overnight, drains and rinse
put beans in water or stock, bring to boil then reduce to medium simmer
pour some of the hot liquid from the beans over the chiles
remove stems from pasilla peppers once they've softened and blend them all
add to the beans as the beans are cooking
brown meat, remove from pan
add onion, saute until translucent
add whiskey and watch your eyebrows
add your beans and chile base liquid you cooked the beans in, as well as prunes or paste, 3/4 of the sage if fresh, all of the sage if dry
bring to boil, then reduce to simmer
let it go until thick, generally about 2 hours
add the last 1/4 of sage about 5 minutes before serving with some buttermilk corn bread (really, it's better for this than sweet yanky style stuff, at least try it even if you think you prefer sweet cornbread) and sour cream

>>17103638
Okay but you just posted a pot of sloppy joe filling

>No corn

>>17103941
>If you love beans so much, prepare them separately and serve them separately, so you can actually taste them.

As I stated above, they take on the taste of the beef and spices. The beans don't add flavor, they absorb it (unless you're using weird shit like garbanzos).

Why the hell would I have two separate bowls of food, both largely liquid, when I could mix them together?

It's meant to be a simple, frugal, flavorful, one-pot dish. Why the hell would anyone cook beans in a separate pot just to eat them alongside the chili?

You're delusional, dude.

>>17104055
Many thanks friend. Good recipe.

>>17103907
It...its black.

>>17103653
Based

>>17104204
the beans take away the flavor. it's a unique dish and not really chili.

>>17103929
the whole point of cowboy stuff is the coolness and wholesomeness, yes you could focus on most of them being peasants but that misses the overall point

>>17103907
it looks like a coffee filter with used black coffee grounds in it

>>17103929
>I'm both Texan and a Mexican
my condolences

>>17103757
/thread
OP is still dilating over this response

>>17104840
Beans in chili is wholesome though

>>17103929
Wrong. Beans are cheap filler put in by poorfags that can't afford meat. They dilute the taste and make the texture mushy. They result in an overall inferior dish and not the one intended by the name chili.

>>17105118
From the looks of user photos on /ck/, most are poorfags. You're probably a poorfag yourself you penniless vagrant.

>>17103638
I blend all the spices in a bowl with a quick shake and then dump them into the pot. No beans. Walá.

>>17103638
>Now that the dust has settled
There has literally never been a non-shit thread that started with that retarded fucking meme.

>>17103638
I spent several hours last night grinding homegrown dried and smoked peppers into chili powder for this weekend. My hands and nose felt like they were on fire for the rest of the night.

>>17103638
I blend them in with the beans.

>>17104252
Bad lighting with a shitty camera, probably an Android

>>17103638
If you're wanting to get snobby about chili then you should know OP pic is not "real chili" either. The original chili was dried red meat pounded into a powder and mixed with spices and fat then pressed into a brick that could transported easily. The brick is added to hot water to make a meat paste that would be eaten on long journeys.

>>17105299
Yes, I'm very aware. Real chili uses these same simple ingredients, of meat, fat, chili powder, and masa flour

>>17103638
Everyone in here discussing the viability of beans, not even answering OPs question. OP, I got a question for you: why would I blend spices together? Does it change the taste? Help with even coverage? I have never done this except for like dry rub on meat. Makes no sense to do it for a soup

I've never eaten chili (beans or no beans)
Is it just bolognese sauce with hot sauce? (and beans)

>>17104249
yw. hope it works out for you.

>>17105323
That's why I asked. I always put the spices in separately and adjust each to taste but evidently a lot of people will premake their chili blend, and I was wondering what benefits it had.

>>17105331
It's not even close

>>17103929
>Is beaner
>wants beans in his chili

pottery. Also SG1 is based. Unlike beans in chili.

>>17103941
>b-b-beans don't add flavor!!

So? Do you eat flavor? No. You eat nutrients. The fact that beans don't affect flavor is precisely what makes them the perfect thing to add. You don't make fucking chili to swish it in your mouth and spit it out like it's a wine tasting. You make chili to get fed.

>>17105563
Beans dilute the flavor. Adding cheap carbs is for povertyfags

>>17103864
Jokes on you I use chunks of pork

>>17105609
So you just eat a plain bowl of chili con carne with nothing else?
After all adding cheese is for poorfags
So is cornbread, tortilla chips and rice

>>17105627
Cheese and cornbread help enhance the flavor. Tortilla chips are pushing it, rice is unacceptable.

I always put beans in my chili what are you gonna do about it?

I like chili with and without beans. if you don't enjoy a bowl of spicy salty meat paste you're probably not a man

>>17104055
I'll make this tonight with venison and no beans. probably more onion and tomato. thanks

>>17103638
I put beans in my chili. I don't give a fuck.

>>17105118
>being this concerned about appearing poor
actual richfags don't give a fuck about what they eat, most of them eat poor people foods that have been packaged more expensively anyways. also the beans wont alter the texture unless you absolutely fill the stew to the brim with them and allow them to break down there.

>>17103653
Based

>>17105695
Wrong. Cornbread and cheese dilute the flavor because they make your chili taste like cornbread and cheese, respectively.

>>17103638
If you don't add beans, then what's chili sin carne supposed to be. Spicy tomato soup?

>>17103638
Chili as a topping doesn't need beans. Chili as a bowl of chili needs beans

>>17103638
>no beans
What's next? No corn? No tomato? No chili?

>>17103638
No beans in chili... Que?

Sound like a fay-get that doesn't eat tomatoes but enjoys ketchup on everything.

>>17106134
Nobody cares about the possible implications for vegans and their perversions of popular dishes.

>>17105615
Are you Hungarian?

>>17105323
>>17105338
what "spices" are you using? some mystery bottle that just says "chili powder?" good chili is made with a variety of peppers. why would you grind them seperately and add them individually instead of all together?

>>17103653

>>17106134
>>17106147
>>17106154
Tomatoes don't go in chili either fyi

>>17107648
Your mainstays, guajillo, ancho, and arbol, all have different flavors. Sometimes you want more ancho, etc, and adding individually lets you balance to taste. At least I've had more success doing this than trying to premix them.

>>17103929
sensible post

>>17105314
>, chili powder
no you toast dried chilies then soak them and blend them then strain them out leaving the red sauce, look it up

>>17108023
The trailfood used dried then powdered chilis

>>17104877
not really, takes away the flavor and isn't healthy.

>>17106031
eating bad deteriorates the mind so rich people tend to eat healthy or become poor.

>>17106147
yes corn in chili is shit tier. tomatoes are always good.

>>17106129
It's good with cheese as long as you put it in later on so it does not melt too much.

>>17105627
rice really messes up the texture.

>>17108074
it also used beef jerky so none of of this "authentic" chili is legit so everyone can fuck right off

>>17103929
Hammond of Texas would have you shot on suspicion of being a GOOLD or possibly a retard.

I'm fine with beans in chili but saying they don't change the taste or the texture is fucking dumb.

>>17108118
Beans in chili are not fine

>>17108097
What do you mean beans aren't healthy?

>>17108197
beans have anti-nutrients or something

>>17108206
most of that is killed with heat from cooking it for hours

>>17105563
>You don't make fucking chili to swish it in your mouth and spit it out like it's a wine tasting.

he doesn't know.

>>17103929
>I'm both Texan and a Mexican.
Add retarded to the list.

>>17103653
basado

>>17103896
Chili con Carne
Chili and beef
Chili is just the chili part, it's a sauce made from dried chili peppers that's you braze meat in. In con carne, that's beef, but it can be done with anything. Though it's unknown whether it was a Mexican invention or American one, if you were to make it yourself I would recommend thinking of it as a Mexican dish. Americans fuck it up by making the sauce from tomatoes and then adding a little chili powder. It lacks any depth of flavor so they try to cope by throwing the whole fridge at it. Not good.

What you do is start with dried chili's. A never fail selection would be some anchos, and some guajillos. You'll notice this is much like other Mexican foods. Toast those like you would any spice, then rehydrate em (throw em in hot water). Split them when they're soft, they'll split easily, and rinse out what seeds you can while trying to preserve the membranes.

Once these are all collected, blend em with a touch of broth, beer, something until its a paste. Do it in bulk because the paste freezes fine

Cook onions, some peppers, I do mushrooms too and meats as you desire. I find it best to go meat first, and truly brown it, then cook the veg in the fat. Do not drain the fat, fat rounds out the chili paste. When the veg is cooked, dump in something to deglaze I do beer cause I'm drinking it while I cook it anyway and then the other cooked ingredients meaning meat. Add chili paste slowly and stir until you get the color and consistency you want. Now you can add beans or just do it like the Texans and sever it over or with the beans. I throw them in because fuck you that's why. The beans aren't the important part. It's getting the flavors of the chili's to be the star of the dish that's important. Almost nobody makes a proper chili instead opting to make a tomato sauce and throwing the spice cabinet at it. Chili made right can have lots of deep flavor characteristics and layers. Pic related, I drunk posted the other night.

>>17103710
Beans Beans
The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you toot

Beans Beans
Good for the heart
The more you eat
The more you fart

>>17108461
So much retardation in one picture.

Beans
It depends

>>17103638
Beans are distinct from, but may mixed with, chili.

As beans go, I prefer Titan and Mammoth, the flat cultivars of the "asparagus bean" group. You cook the whole pods, not just the bean seeds, just remove the stalks.

>>17103638
But beans do go in chili. As do potatoes, maize, carrots, onions, crushed tomatos, and whatever else you like.

>>17109150
Wrong

no ground meat, chunks of chuck. blended guajillo chiles and beer. it’s the best chili. no cuck beans or cuck ground spices

>>17103638
>beans don't go in chili,
You're wrong

>>17103653
Based

>>17109530
no

>>17108485
The more you fart
The better you'll feel
So eat your beans
At every meal

>>17103929
>I'm both Texan and a Mexican.
are you black too?

>>17108461
That's a lot of effort for a garbage can dish

>>17110597
>That's a lot of effort
It's quite literally the easy meal I make when I plan to black out before finishing. I guess it's a lot of effort for someone who's only ever cooked frozen pizzas

>>17109407
based

>>17103638
Chili should be
ten percent luck, twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure, and fifty percent pain.

>>17112390
That's 110%

>>17112692
If you are not filling past the brim and getting it on the open fire you are doing it wrong.