/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17088582
Anon don't stop drinking, you need fluids like water to live. Please go get a drink, stay hydrated!

>>17088582
>eat when for best results
Fix your cortisol issues

>>17088582
bro, it all depends. as an alcoholic, whenever I get off the sauce I eat sugar like mad for about a week to fight cravings. combined with exercise to create endorphins. if you want to continue weight loss, high protein, low carb, minimal sugar intake, and lots of water will show results.

>>17088591

>>17088582
Nice, good on you for quitting or at least slowing down for a while. Shit's death.
What are you asking exactly, what do you mean what to eat? Eat food, bitch.

>>17088662
>quit drinking
>eat a bunch of sugar/junk food to cope
>get back to drinking
>still in the habit of eating garbage every night, definitely not skipping that while drunk
Played myself.

>>17088678
yeah so I know eating a bunch of sweets and shit is not ideal... but should I focus on low carb or low cal stuff? meats only no bread lots of bread hell I honestly dont know what im asking for sure...

>>17088714
low cal stuff. just limit your carbs and sweets. eat lots of veggies, and I mean tons. soups help with that, just get some better than bullion for broth, chop veggies and spice it. Serve with some chicken/fish or serve it over a bit of rice. I've been mostly off the sauce now for about 2 months, lost 25 pounds so far. I'm avoiding fast food like the plague and I'll only cheat once a week for one meal.

Just keep moderating calories and try to get your body used to eating less.

>>17088741
>>17088714
Oh, and COUNT your calories, like everything you put in your mouth you should know how many calories is in it.

eat less (eat more protein to feel satisfied on less calories)
exercise more (even a 30 minute walk per day gave me results)
avoid added sugars and seed oils
simple as
you can even keep drinking and lose weight, just drink vodka instead of beer

>>17088582
ignore calorie counting retards just eat fat and protein
>We provide clinical and preclinical evidence for beneficial effects of KD (Ketogenic deit) on managing alcohol withdrawal and on reducing alcohol drinking.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8034849/

>>17088773
>ignore those retards, follow my retarded fad diet instead
kys ketard

>>17088802
take a number vegan

>>17088582
Do keto, or at least cut the carbs below 20g a day. You'll lose like 10-15 pounds of water weight an a few days, then the fat will melt off.

fearing carbs for the rest of your life is pure insanity
join the cult, or be a normal person and eat less and exercise more
eat less including the beer, which is a huge source of empty calories

>>17088833
>eating less carbs is crazy but also eat less carbs
?

>>17088842
the keto cult isn't just "less carbs"
it's "if you eat a sandwich one time, you're excommunicated"

>>17088582
B1 - look up wernicke-korsakov syndrome. I recently quit drinking (not the same situation as you but similar) and had great results taking 500 mg of B1 daily for the first 4 or 5 days off the sauce.

>>17088714
Realistically you should probably eat more or less what you're eating now, but eat more healthy things and fewer unhealthy things. If you try to completely overhaul your diet you will fail.
If you keep chocolate in the house and snack on that, maybe don't buy it next time you go shopping. If you drink two 2L sodas a week, cut down to two. If you don't eat any greens every day, figure out a way to eat some salad every morning or something. It's about smaller, gradual changes that stick in the long term.
The high carb, lo carb, keto, calorie counting, gluten free shit works for some, but it's too much work and most of the people that do all these meme diets fall off in under a year.

>>17088851
its more than just not eating carbs. its eat more fat and protein and eat more nutrient dense foods which happen to be the ones high in fat and protein. nobody gets "excommunicated" but if youre insulin resistant, which most Americans are, you are better off not eating the carbs (low GI carbs like green veggies being the exception).
>>17088861
this is the conventional advice that fails for most and will not get anybody off their diabetes med, BP meds, etc etc

>>17088866
you're not totally insane since you know green veggies are fine, but I just can't condone proselytizing fad diets
people need to change their habits organically and just live
fad diets are nothing but a recipe for bouncing back

>>17088866
Where did OP say anything about wanting to get off any kind of medication? My advice is a practical one from personal experience that will work for most people. We're not talking about morbidly obese Bert Kreischler types.
Eat less shit that you know is bad for you, eat more greens and veggies. It's not rocket science.

>>17088875
here is what adherence looks like in long term diabetics
>Nearly all CCI participants (96%) reported at least one BHB reading of 0.5 mmol

>>17088879
heavy alcohol drinkers are at high risk of developing diabetes and most Americans are already diabetic or pre diabetic. if they continue to eat a high carb diet they will need the meds

>>17088685
You just have to let the drinking get bad enough so you can't keep any food down at all. Then you start dropping weight like crazy. Alcoholism is a great way to lose weight in my experience

>>17088929
>Alcoholism is a great way to get diabetes and fatty liver

>>17088933
link alcohol and diabetus for us

>>17088936
like fructose alcohol has to be metabolized in the liver. give either in a large dose and the liver converts it to fat. more liver fat gets you more insulin resistance and eventually this can progress to full blown diabetes.

>>17088888
And all of that is is irrelevant speculation. Cool.

>>17088963
however you need to cope i guess...

>>17088964
You sound mad.

>>17088968
when in doubt attack the messenger

>>17088972
Literally what you did first lol. Try to have a nice day.

>>17088976
thanks you too. you really deboonked all my speculations

>>17088953
This is a fact.

>>17088582
just do rolling fasts and take your vitamins, stick to keto/low carb when you eat again

Have stopped my drinking too for about the same, congratulations op. You can do it and don't convince yourself otherwise. Haven't had the problem eating though. Why'd you stop?

>>17088582
Run, run as much as you can, at least 5 miles a day. Run like you're training for a marathon, so you want to hit 25 miles a week. It will suck at first but you will get results

>>17090200
>telling a fat alcoholic to run "at least 5 miles a day"
Bro i would be legitimately impressed if OP can do 5 minutes a day.

Don't try to speed it up, you've already cut a fuckton of calories out.
I've found deli meats are easy to snack on, while carbs like bread are harder to stomach. Stock up on some ginger ale and diet coke to help curb your insulin cravings.

>>17088582
same here. 30m, 5'11" 150. i haven't drank in 3 weeks. used to drink around 8 beers every night. i've been drinking energy drinks and coffee, eating snacks and meals constantly. i'm just trying not to drink anymore. i don't gain weight.

>>17088953
With vodka too? Or moreso with beer? Or any alcohol? Don't eat a lot of garbage Bros but recently diagnosed as prediabetic. If I can't drop the weight, and put on medication, what's that like? Can continue eating drinking whatever, just take a pill?

>>17088670
funniest joke in germany
Banned for being too funny and causing workers to stop working for exactly 12 seconds of the greater german laugh (an exhale of air and a slight smirk)

>>17088582
Drink the yummy poison

>>17088582
just drink one beer a day you degenerate, is it that hard to control your impulses? drink some tea after your one beer of the day or something

bump

i'm doing the same thing was drinking like 24 b eers every 24 hours
im eating lots of beef jerky and salad and drinking kombucha and flavored seltzer
weed drinks if i'm really needing a buzz to fall asleep

>>17088582
plain greek yogurt. add jams if you need flavor, but don't get the premixed flavors. but it's high protein, no effort, and helps restore the microbes in your digestive system. Grows the good kind that your drinking destroyed, which in the long term helps reduce cravings.

>>17090847
beer tastes like shit idiot and you feel worse after drinking a single one anyway. You need at least like 6+ standard drinks to enjoy it, so it's either drinking properly or sobriety.

I love alcohol but my mom said I have to stop :(

>>17088582
>drinking 8-12 beers a night 7 days a week
Fucking how? I don't understand how people drink so many beers or any kind of liquid really. If you're after alcohol, I'd just have 2 beers for refreshment and then switch to hard liquor

>>17094303
sometimes you just wanna sip on something over the course of a couple hours, but yeah i usually just get two 40oz and take shots of vodka every now and then, sometimes also sip on energy drinks to keep me awake

>>17088821
Might have to try that
>>17088861
Ironically haven’t had a soda in years because they are “bad for you”>>17089138
I can and do skip meals through the day pretty regularly… may have to investigate that further
>>17089182
Been at it pretty steady for last 10 years, my mental health sucks. Depression anxiety ect and I’m told the alcohol plays a role… just ready to not hate myself so much
>>17090310
You speak the truth 5 min would be a marathon
>>17090402
Good jub
>>17090508
I really want to
>>17090847
If I can’t have them all I’m not interested. I wouldn’t give a nickel for 1
>>17094303
Takes practice… liquor is to quick, the ritual and the time involved in getting the buzz was part of the experience

>>17094339
it absolutely plays a role in depression and anxiety. Tell me if any of this sounds familiar, from my sobriety journal:

"I don’t know 100% if it’s the alcohol but I strongly suspect it is. If it is, one of the worst “withdrawal” symptoms is the antsyness and fidgeting. When I don’t drink there’s just... panic. Fear. gotta twiddle gotta twiddle fuck it’s been two hours gotta do homework can't work I'll do it tomorrow no I gotta do it now fuck fuck fuck gotta fiddle fear fear panic fear. And so on. I know I gotta do shit, but I just sit frozen. I know this is an ADHD thing but usually I can keep it under control. Or at least, until I became dependent on alcohol to control it. Now I’m just a chaotic panicked mess with or without the alcohol[...]
(several months later)
[...] I can say, with absolute certainty, that this is caused by the alcohol. After a bender, for the first several days I will experience a myriad of symptoms. These include a general decrease in cognitive ability, night sweats and an inability to sleep, an inability to focus or commit to long-term memory any sort of knowledge, anxiety, depression, and fatalistic thinking.
For the past week and change, I managed to go sober. I felt much better, and my moods stabilized. Then (despite yet another promise of quitting cold turkey), I caved and bought more booze. Immediately the brain fog returned. The anxiety returned. The inability to focus or commit things to memory returned. Panic. Fear. Irrational thinking. Self sabotage, and fulfilling self-fulfilling prophecies. I just stare into space and feel a vague panic overwhelm me as I physically and mentally cannot focus on a task, and everything I try to learn feels like tightening my grip on a fistful of sand. "

>>17094339
>liquor is to quick
To me, a beer is too quick. I always get drunker way quicker with beer than liquor. Beer is easier to drink quicker and liquor is better to savor. If I wanted a buzz all day, I'd have one strong beer on an empty stomach and then keep taking sips of bourbon

>>17094368
The uneasy feeling of knowing I’m not going to drink when it’s drinking time might be described as “panic” certainly uneasy feeling about it. My drinking time is after work and I drive right by the store I always shopped at in order to get home… I contemplate if I’m going to stop every evening for the last 2 weeks. The brain fog and memory loss / failure to commit things to memory is absolutely real, I have a hard time recalling important happy life events vividly now, hope they come back. Still have all my sad memories in tact though. I always had big plans of things I was going to get done in the near future whilst self isolating myself from my family and drinking.. none of it ever got accomplished

>>17094381
I was never interested in a all day buzz. Between 5-8 in the evening was more my timeline

>>17094381
I like to get as drunk as I want to be very quickly via drinking wine or liquor as fast as I can then switch to light beer or seltzer to maintain that level until i want to go to bed, pretty strong method. The slow drunk just makes me fucking depressed after 2-3 drinks.

bump

plain toast with butter
Toasted naan
Water
Sliced and skinned peaches in water
Campbell's plain chicken noodle soup lukewarm

>>17090847
>just drink one beer a day
>just
the state of closet alcoholics.

>>17088582
I'm of no help but I just wanted to say good on ya.

i suggest you exercise or do something physically demanding so you can build up real hunger
if not youre just going to sit there and think and the day will go by and youve ate nothing
seriously go for a walk atleast just to get your organs moving
you have to build an appetite

>>17088582
I'm an alcoholic. I quit for several months until I made my own wine and it got me back on. The world is just so boring without it. I hide it from my girlfriend by drinking those mini wines at gas station before I get home.

I honestly don't know how to kick it or if I even want to anymore. It's just so boring sober. Anxiety gnaws at me constantly

I developed a serious sweet tooth after quitting drinking.

>>17096704
the lack of alcohol is what makes you feel like everything is dull and boring
because youre body is in an extended period of withdrawl
you have to get over that initial "hump" which can be 2 weeks for some or 6 months for others and thats where the anxiety deppression bored feelings come in
its an uphill battle and you have to want the victory if you dont want it it wont happen

>>17090847
Bad idea. Once you have one drink it's a slippery slide. Either get shitfaced or don't touch the stuff.

>>17096733
That's bullshit. I quit daily drinking 5 years ago but the evenings i have a little relapse are more entertaining than anything.

>>17096733
The worst part about it is how prevalent it is and how integrated it is in social events. Thanksgiving my whole family drank, a week ago my lab had champagne to celebrate a grant, in a week my work will have a party at a bar, and Christmas will be another drinking holiday. Every day I see it in gas stations and in grocery stores and it just whispers in my ear for one, and once I have one I need more.

When I get thirsty I crave it, when I'm tired I crave it, when I'm bored I crave it, when I'm sad I crave it. It sits there in the back of my throat all day and I hate it, but It just makes things so easy and warm and my anxiety melt. Ugh.

>>17096760
>That's bullshit. I quit daily drinking 5 years ago but the evenings i have a little relapse are more entertaining than anything.
That's because you're still addicted and using, you fucking moron. Quit entirely for a long period of time and you'll stop feeling like this.

>>17096773
What do you consider long periods of time? I didn't touch the stuff for about 2 years. Now i am back to once month.

>>17096805
>What do you consider long periods of time?
It depends and is different for everybody and depends on how long you were drinking for. The physical detoxification takes a few weeks, but getting your brain chemistry and above all else your psychology back to normal can take years. It's a long process and some people actually never recover their original sense of joy again. If you're an alcoholic and do the once a month thing you might not be harming yourself physically as much as if you were to do it every day, but the psychological effects of giving your body the drug it's addicted to, having to worry about relapsing, then using will-power to fight through the next month until your next fix are not going to help fix the psychological issues.

>>17096805
I'm with you, took 2 years off myself too after a daily habit. My relationship with alcohol is much healthier now though probably still not great. The fact is that once you've been a drunk for some time it's not really recoverable, you will always on some level be longing for that euphoric release. Yeah you can get by without it and have a good time, and it's probably to your benefit to do so in terms of health, money, etc. But you can't just forget that there's a whole other plane of existence that you're cutting yourself off from.

>>17096768
This is accurate
>>17096861
Hope original sense of joy can be regained although I can’t recall what true happiness feels like even though I have every reason to be happy… my memory is shit too… OP here by the way 15 days and counting

>>17097889
Personally I was just miserable my whole life before I started drinking. Getting drunk taught me to relax, to be sociable, an to just have fun in general without being a tightwad autistic asshole. It's done me a lot of good and I retain those lessons while not under the influence now, but it would be pure cope on my part to think that I'm ever going to enjoy life as much when I'm not drinking as when I am.

The unfortunate reality of the situation though is that at a certain point it starts doing more harm than good, to your health, or your finances, or your personal development, or whatever. So long as you know where that is and stay back from the brink I'd say you're good. Currently I've backed down to taking 2 days off in between drinking, which is a step in the right direction. I'd feel ok about getting properly drunk maybe twice a month.

Cut carbs and try to have a minimum 12 hour fast every day. Working on light exercise or stretching if you're a real NEET

>>17090310
Baby steps. 5 minutes a day is infinitely better than nothing.

>>17090327
Eat cum, checkum

>>17088582
Unrelated but I'm so sick and tired of weak faggots WHINING about the relationship between the government and fucking "drugs" just because your mommy and daddy were weak dysgenic pussies has no bearing on whether or not I can enjoy alcohol and flex on your ass. Niggers raised the goddamn legal age minimum to smoke and I went from smoking to having to wait to smoke again. Fuck everyone. I was an adult by the age of fucking 16 I'm sick and tired of whiny manbabies, I am extremely buttmad

Old thread but here's my advice.

Your vitamin A levels are gonna be low so take that, including vitamin B's, and include Cod liver oil or Fish oil. Eat healthy non-sugar foods and a balanced diet. I'd recommend intermittent fasting to get your body back on track but that takes more commitment than a vitamin.

>>17099999

>>17100017
You're no adult.

>>17099999
witnessed

>>17088582
get covid I lost 6 pounds due to lack of appetite and not being able to taste or smell

>>17100600
that sounds like hell im glad I never got covid and i also dont believe inthe vaccine. i just take vitam c and vitamin d because i heard a lot of deaths were due to vitamin D