/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>fresh
free in my garden
>canned
also free, I can my own veggies

>>17073898
>$3 for two small tomatoes
Stop paying millennial tax at whatever meme store you’re getting tomatoes from.

>>17073906
>free in my garden
Sure, if you discount the sunk costs of putting the garden together, materials (fencing, soil, fertilizer, etc.), seeds, and the non-monetary labor costs of your time and physical effort. Sure, then it's free.

>>17073918
>soil
It’s been my experience that property tends to include quite a bit of that.

>>17073918
It's not work if it's fun

>>17073906
Hey anon lets go out and get drunk and fuck whores
No thanks I'm far too busy digging in dirt and playing with cans
Great plan for having absolutely no social life
You will die a virgin surrounded by cans and who knows what plants

>>17073918
Yes, because once established it has paid for itself. Not everyone has access to this, but it doesn't make my statement untrue.

>>17073918
>seeds
heirloom, free seeds for life.

>>17073929
I'm married and wouldn't want to go bang whores even if I wasn't. I'm not interested in satanic self-denigration.

>>17073940
Gay married isn't married

>>17073927
You get the land for free or something?

>>17073898
That's a fruit

>>17073946
I agree.

>>17073948
I already have the land, so it has nothing to do with the cost of planting a tomato.
Do you factor in what you paid for the clothes you’re wearing to the store to the cost of buying canned tomatoes?

>>17073949
You're a fruit
And by fruit, I mean a homosexual

>>17073898
is your spacebar not working or your meds?

>>17073927

It's obvious you've never even had a garden, let alone a farm.

>>17073898
Both your tomatoes are worthless. Grown for and developed by companies whose sole concern is maximizing profit.

All you get is fastest growing, thickest skin for transport, longest shelf life possible, best growing in greenhouses on the left. On the right you get tomatoes that are a bit more meaty,and that's it.

If you're looking for healthy, nutritious, balanced food: grow your own. Only eat tomato from June till September.

PS: never ever put tomatoes in a fridge. Pic related. It's actual tomatoes.

>>17074238
A for-profit farm? No. But I grew up on 26ac with one fenced off for for a rotating 1/3ac garden. I can assure you it grew plenty of stuff just fine with the the soil which was already there, including tomatoes.

>>17074013
It's you who doesn't work, NEET. Go exit your parent's basement.

>>17073898
drink drain cleaner

>>17074417
>417
so close. I would've just told op to get hammered.

>>17073918
Yes thats how sunk costs work anon, they're ignored by definition

>>17073929
Yes, this is how it should be.

>>17073918
it's cheaper in the long run which is your whole argument in the first place

>>17074279
this, a good tomato is nearly overripe...stores and harvests never let them hit their true potential

>>17073918
So tomatoes at the store actually cost thousands of dollars due to the cost of the car it took to get me there, or the taxes I will pay over my lifetime if I took public transportation

>>17073929
>Hey anon lets go out and get drunk and fuck whores
cringe, disgusting, hedonistic, immature
>No thanks, I'm far too busy enjoying the beauty of nature and the great outdoors
based, wholesome, clean, mature

I don't understand why people need to touch everything, especially produce. I like my (Roma only) tomatoes hard, no give whatsoever, but I use my knuckle to feel how firm it is. Or how people need to use their hands to exit a door that you can just push using your foot/shoulder/arm. Fucking retard idiot fucks.

>>17073918
I don't have a garden, but I turned my shitshow of a backyard into something worth looking at. Tons of time in hard labor and research on how to ammend the soil and I must say giving life to plants all done by yourself is extremely rewarding. I just wish I could start a garden, holy shit.

>>17073898
Imagine buying tomatoes when it's piss easy to grow your own. You can even can them yourself.

>>17073929
Eww, you're a shell of a human if you think partying and "social life" is superior to growing as a person and putting work into growing your own food. Fucking NPC fuck.

I like tomatoes

>>17073898
I just buy ketchup and reconstitute them myself.

>>17074519
Imagine growing enough tomatoes when you live in the city

>>17074538
imagine living in a city

>>17074540
Imagine living
kys

>>17074547
She told me she's not comfortable with me doing that anymore.

>>17073949
Botanically, it's a berry
Culinarily, it's a god
t. Italy

>>17073918
What a fucking faggot.

>>17073918
Nigger you can grow a tomato plant in a pot. It pays for itself after the first harvest.
>time and physical effort
How lazy are you? You plant it and do nothing but water it until you harvest.

>>17074630
and while you wait months for 20 tomatoes to ripen you get to overpay store prices!
it's win-win really

>>17073918
only a NEET has this mentality

>>17073906
beyond based

>>17073928
GET THE FUCK BACK TO WORK

>>17073918
it pays for itself many times over in the mental serenity and satisfaction you get from tended your plants

>>17073918
I would tend my garden even if nothing grew in it.
It's therapeutic, just like cooking.

Also, I'm not gonna make a Greek salad with canned tomatoes.

>>17074485
And you're likely going to pay for that car or those taxes anyway, so it would be stupid not to benefit from them. Good job making his point for him.

>>17075070
All the gardening types I know are stressed to hell, always griping about aphids and mildews and whatnot.

>>17073948
Were you born stupid or dropped on your head as a child?

>>17073927
Jokes on you I live n the city and have no property.

>>17073948
So that means to calculate your grocery bill you need to add in the cost of your...
>car (to get to the store)
>gas (to power the car)
>oil in the engine (else it wouldn't run properly)
>shoes and clothes (no shirt , no shoes, no service)
>rent or mortgage (where you live determines what store you go to)
>city and state income and/or property taxes (can't live in a locality without paying your taxes)
So what the hell are you doing buying $35,000 tomatoes anyway?

I only buy frozen veggies after I found out they're actually more fresh, because they're snap frozen instantly whereas ''fresh'' produce takes days to arrive to the store.

>>17073898

In season tomatoes from farm co-op, csa, farmers market etc are insanely based even if they're expensive. They are precious and should be eaten raw unless they're past their prime.

the other 48 weeks out of the year go canned or go home.

>>17073898
>BPAs
enjoy your shrimp dick and brain damage OP

>>17075403
>BPA
they stopped with that shit, haven't you heard?

can i grow vegetables in my house

>>17075490
no they havent. bpa is still present in a lot of food packaging.

>>17075576

>>17075615
https://foodmes.com/canned-food-still-contains-harmful-chemical-bpa

the article is from 21, mentions that from 250 tested articles 40% still contained bpa. it got removed from pacifiers and many toys, but it hasnt fully disappeared.

>>17073898
show me canned broccoli...

>>17075490
The replacements are literally the same if not worse

>>17075615
bisphenol B contains xenoestrogens, and if they don't use that then what they use contains xenoestrogen.

We should switch to metal, glass, ceramics as a society so our average testorone isn't like a 70 year old man

>>17075644

>>17075666
>>17075647
so tell me what food I should buy?
some foods are only available canned such as decent tomatoes or chickpeas. the chickpeas in glass are 3x as expensive and even then the lid contains plastic too

>>17075679
freeze dried does not count.

>>17073918
Why the fuck does being correct on this website cause so much seethe?

>>17073898
Best tomatoes are when they ripe off the vine, which varies from place to place... I have a two month window for best tomatoes.

This year was fucking unreal for Tomatoes, guy at work grew some really nice ones the inside was like the texture of cooked bone marrow.

>>17073898
Canned are more expensive for me because of local farms.

for 30 dollars I can get enough tomatos to make around 20 jars of sauce locally

>>17073929
I’d rather get drunk in the safety of my home. Not very interested in the whores either.

>>17073929
This right here is a prime example of some newfag young buck, who thinks everyone is a poon hound and alcoholic like him. CK has, statistically, the greatest number of posters who are married with children, compared to any other 4chan board. I get it, you're 20, your whole world is going to some shit bar with "the boys" (a couple of dweebs), awkwardly mumbling to some pretty ladies, and pretending that makes you hot shit, but the rest of us are in our 30s and have families.

theyre both touched by god knows who, and you cant wash the canned ones, checkmate atheists

>>17074538
I live in a city. I grow them on my windowsill. Still more tomatoes than I know what to do with. It's not that hard.

>>17075348
This. Makes meal prepping a breeze. Canned is also good though!

>>17075686
Go to a farmer's market.

>>17075841
Amen

>>17073898
>fresh
good for salads and sandwiches
>canned
good for sauces

whoever made this infograph is a fucking retard
who even uses fresh tomatoes in sauces?

>>17073927
>It’s been my experience that property tends to include quite a bit of that.
you don't know how gardening works do you anon

>>17075777
because they're all fucking poor bumpkins who live in some backwater and think their measly $35/hr job is "the good life" and therefore doesn't understand the concept of time

>>17073929
Go off king

>>17076009
:(
I use fresh tomatoes for sauces.

>>17076592
If you're buying fresh tomatoes to make sauces its just a waste of potential. Canned tomatoes are used because the flavor stays and can handle heat better without losing that flavor. It's a small little detail honestly. You're fine using fresh tomatoes honestly, I would definitely emonder them first. or not who gives a shit what you do.

>>17073929
Why not both?

>>17073918
they hated him, for he spoke the truth.
go work a fucking dayshift and you'll have enough money to buy tomatoes for the rest of the year, retards.
if you like gardening and enjoy it, that's fine, but don't pretend you're doing it to save money

>>17074002
> I already have the land
This is peak white privilege

>>17075841
wrong
some of us are unemployable undateable shutin alcoholics in our 30's

>>17073918
You know how I know you are fat and live in the city?

>>17073906
Based rural dweller making city paracites seeth.

>>17073927
You've obviously never grown good tasting tomatoes. They are picky as fuck about soil.

>muh vitamins
freshness is more important to health

>>17077910
It's funny you say that because I'm neither. Sorry you're not the psychic you think you are.

>>17077915
Rural and city should unite to kill subtumors desu

>>17078005
I agree. Suburbs are the worst of both worlds in every conceivable way. City and rural are the only two valid ways to live.

Tinned is always ALWAYS sour as fuck. Do not want.

>>17073929
The girls I meet are interested in my garden and homemade products. I like to date wholesome nerdy girls who come from good families with a good relationship with their fathers. They usually like to help me plant herbs and set up bird feeders. Your lifestyle seems degenerate and very sad, I hope you find God, anon.

>>17076592
Fresh tomatoes are fine, as long as they were allowed to ripen on the vine. A fresh tomato is supposed to be supple and soft, like a water balloon ready to burst. If the tomatoes you're buying at the store are hard and firm, like you aren't scared of breaking it by handling it roughly, it's probably a shit tomato picked early and ripened with ethylene gas.

>>17073918
Oh no you have to work to get food. What a concept

>>17077397
I don't think you understand how many tomatoes a plant can produce in one season

>>17075686
Dried chickpeas are very easy to cook.

>>17073898
>>17073918
>>17075777
>>17076244
>>17077397

>>17075403
>>17075647
>implying the chemicals sprayed on 'fresh' produce to keep them 'fresh' isn't dangerous

>>17078815
Imagine buying something from the store that you can literally grow from the fucking ground.

It was a damn fine year to grow tomatoes bros. All you can eat.

>>17078791
>and and
this bothers me

>>17073898
Please explain how nutrients survive the boiling in can to make it sterile.

I am waiting eagerly.

>>17078001
>>17078005
Paracitic city dwellers are no different than suburbanites. Literally both konsuuuumer nigger lovers.

>>17073929
The incels getting mad at this are hilarious.

>>17073918
This. Besides, I'm a woman (with a vagina), and every dudebro ""gardener"" I've ever met already fails on the first step when they use their crappy backyard soil, don't take proper care of their plants, and are blinded by the literal hundreds of hours they sunk to realize just how mediocre their tomatoes are.

Scrotes aren't good at gardening. Stick to things you can do, like lifting and BBQ.

>>17073918
The "return to HECKIN' tradition" larpers who cannot fathom the idea of a good life without pointlessly toiling away for results that are objectively worse than going to a local farmer are frothing at this post.

>>17079361
Must be from north america
Sad that your cities are so terrible.

>>17073918
what a fine bait post

>>17073898
I can buy 20 tomatos for 3 bucks dumb nigger.

>>17073898
I can literally buy 1 pound of tomatoes from Kroger for $1, what the fuck prices are you quoting from?

>>17073898
>$3 for two tomatoes
lol
also a can of Cento crushed is $2

>>17077916
Aren't you able to add what ever the fuck they desire into the soil?

>>17079369
>a local farmer
>"return to HECKIN' tradition" larpers
why do you think there's a difference
growing your own vegetables doesn't take much effort unless you're fat. it's not about tradition, it's the fact that it tastes better and you get way more when you do it yourself.

>>17079438
It's inevitable with the amount of jewery condensed in American cities. South American cities (over a million) seem just as fucked though?

>>17073898
>FRESH FOOD BAD
i wonder who could be behind this post

>>17079834
I can grow them for literally nothing but rain barrels, the time it takes to drink whiskey with grandma while she preacher about propagation of fruits, not living in a city.
Your opinion sucks and so does your cooking.

>>17079880
you're illiterate
i was laughing at the notion that two tomatoes would cost a whole $3 and pointed out a can of tomatoes costs more than $1.69, in contrast to the OP.
maybe you should put down granny's whiskey and pick up a book dipshit

>>17079880
also didn't mention the soil you need to put in that barrel, the nutrients you need to feed that plant in that barrel and the labor costs. i grow all my fruits too but you're a disingenuous faggot so fuck you lol

>>17079856
>Jews flood hard on the cooking forum
Based elder-zion-goy-diet recognizer

>>17073906
>they don't think it's based, but it do

>>17079895
>>17079904
The dirt my yard is better than the garage you buy city paracite.

My seed propitiation is better than anything you have kid

The rain barrels are free

I've been learning to care for plants since I was 4 and know beyond a doubt that if you consider tending a home garden a chore you don't know shit about shit

>t. 6 generators of farmers and ranchers

>>17079963
kek

>>17079964
>City nigger thinks he knows something
Tell me more about how hard it is to grow a tomato
Lool

>>17079964
This but unironically.

>>17079221
Cute. Where do you live that there's so much sand?

>>17079311
Explain how nutrients die in boiling tomato soup.

>>17078683
That's the point, dipshit. You DON'T have to work to get food in modern society, at least in terms of growing it yourself. You trade money you earned doing something you've specialized in in exchange for food someone else has produced from their specialization in making that food. We aren't a hunter-gatherer society anymore.

>>17080113
>We aren't a hunter-gatherer society anymore.
Yes, that's exactly the problem.

>>17073918
and water

>>17080080
Thanks. And It's just really dry dirt, it was very hot this past summer. I wheelbarrowed it over from some excavation happening nearby.

>>17080083
>Doesn't know about raw foods