/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17061529
Here's the real previous thread, since I'm retarded.
>>17025951

do you have containers for your tea or do you just store it in whatever it comes in?

>>17061601
For now, a big tupperware with different teas stored separately in individual ziploc bags inside of it.
I've been meaning to improve my storage system. I might switch to jars instead so everything looks neater

>>17061529
I'm just sad it'll be over a month to get it here.
>>17061601
Depends. If the package is basically a zip lock type of bag I leave it in there. I don't really store stuff in tins.

thought this was pretty tasty, any other lapsang souchongs or smoked teas you guys would recommend?

I'm poor and also caffeine free so i been drinking these for a while. They're still significantly more expensive than average shop teabags, but way less than buying loose tea. I want to move on to decaf green. Decaf white tea would be the best but apparently it doesn't exist except from some place in california that charges like 50 great british pounds to shop here

ok, be honest how many of you fags here are british?

>>17061529
WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FROG HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?

>>17062385
meds, sooner rather than later

>>17061766
I drank some Yorkshire tea yesterday, does that make me british?

>>17061726
smoked assam from vahdam is great. russian caravan is nice, think i had Tea Czar Nicholas

>>17061766
Im from Northern Ireland, does that count?

>>17062385
Only troons and kikes get butthurt seeing pepe. Are you lost?

>>17062807
How dare you
How DARE you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7woEXovruc

>>17062807
Eat shit and die, unionist scum.

>>17062807
Are you the bastard that keeps posting Cheese Pizza? Every time my IP resets, I get banned here because of some twat shitposting on the IP before me.

>>17061529
Meme cake edition

I want to buy a friend a tea pot or set. Something unique. She has one that makes a flower when you brew tea. Maybe something like that or unique design.
I know nothing about tea. It looks like a lot of them don't heat water. Seems weird to heat water in a kettle then pour it in a pot.

>>17062941
>>17062953
1690 you larping yankee wastrels https://youtu.be/tJrFEVCn6X0

>>17062953
That's a face I'd betray the queen for.

I ended up getting the Autumn 2021 Jingmai Shengtai from farmer-leaf.
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/collections/yunnan-pu-erh-tea/products/autumn-2021-jingmai-shengtai
I hope its good. I will see how it compares with my other young shengs.

>>17060499
>Yeah I do the same, i either drink old man stomach safe fermented stuff like ripe puer or liu bao, or only after i eat some food because the way i brew stuff usually gives me nausea if i don't have some food in me.
I always eat with my tea unless its a herbal tea. mind you i normally only drink tea proper once a day in the morning and only occasionally have a second session.

>I typically do 8g raw in a 100ml gaiwan, up to 10g with ripes and roasted oolongs.
there's my problem. i tend to break off to much tea and use it all because it don't want to put it back where it may get crushed. for example today i had 13.5g of last years snooze-fest young sheng from W2T.

>>17063223
I meant to reply to >>17060527 not myself.

Receive this as a gift a long time ago. What is it? Tastes really good.

>>17063230

>>17063230
does it say anything on the back?
do you have any pictures or description of the tea itself?

>>17063234

>>17061726
creepy. Someone at my work brought this very tea in. Very intense smoke, but the flavor almost seemed bland compared to the taste. Just me though I guess.

>>17063230
"平水日铸茶"
Gunpowder Rizhu tea or Pingshui Rizhu tea?

>>17063047
If I buy this tea cake, will my stonks go high?

>>17063361
You'll become a puerh lesbian and a /biz/ poster.

>>17063380
but I'm not a woman, so how can I be a lesbian?

>>17063361
yes, they will go up by 10% per tong.

>>17063230
>>17063233
is it this (平水日铸茶 or Pingshui Rizhu):
https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%B9%B3%E6%B0%B4%E6%97%A5%E9%93%B8%E8%8C%B6/3678646

>>17063402
>but I'm not a woman,
Yet

>>17063230
It looks like a tea bag to me, anon.

Is it a good idea to put squeeze some lemon juice in black tea or is it a nono?

>>17064178
try it and let us know how it goes.

>>17064190
Ok I report. It's good. I approve Squeezed it in some ear grey.

>>17061726
I love that stuff! It's BBQ in a cup. Try hojicha, it's a japanese tea that's smoked but much lighter on the smoke flavor.

>>17064208
well earl grey is citrusy already so I guess that makes sense.

>>17063223
>I ended up getting the Autumn 2021 Jingmai Shengtai from farmer-leaf.
Nice. Interested to hear your thoughts

>>17061529
Thanks for making a thread

My loose leaf pu erh tastes like wood, farts and fish. It's not even bad just wanted to mention

>>17064911
Ahh yes the true ripe puer experience
I actually am starting to like xiaguan's signature funk from their ripes.

>>17061529
Wow. A jannie/mod actually got butthurt over a wholesome pepe driving tea.

it's alright to buy this spring's green tea in winter, right?

>>17065984
At some point it's better to wait for next spring, but i would say any green tea should be good for a year except for super delicate Japanese stuff so as long as you drink it before the new harvest is ready in late april - early may go for it.

what is the best kind of tea to drink at night?

>>17066770
Warm tea

>>17066770
Pretty much any herbal blend, especially something with chamomile, lavender, lemon balm, skullcap, or valerian.
If we're talking actual tea, something like a sencha or bai mu dan.

>>17064846
i will try to post abut it when it arrives. hopefully it comes before Christmas. its a pain having to deal with packages that may arrive while you are away during the holidays. i don want them to just get left out on my porch. last year shipping was an absolute nightmare, i had domestic packages that should have got here in less than a week arrive months late. at least they did not lose any of my packages.

>>17065984
It's probably not going to be _great_, but it might still be nice.

has anyone ever had this? https://mountainroseherbs.com/honeybush-tea
i'm drinking mine, and it doesn't really taste like anything? i expected it to be sweet.
i'm fairly certain i added enough of the tea to my strainer, and it's been steeping for about five minutes, but it isn't very fragrant and it's pretty tasteless as well.
should i add more (tea) next time?

>>17069304
I have some from the same store. Use more, steep it really short around 1 minute, i found if you steep it too long it looses it's sweetness.

sipping on some Greek mountain tea tonight. very cozy.

Why is tea always described as bitter in media? It's kinda getting on my nerves because most Japanese green teas are very smooth with very little bitterness and yet I constantly see Japanese/Asian content translated into English saying "oh yeah this (green) tea is so fucking bitter! That's just how they like it, REALLY BITTER to the max, that's why you have to eat it with sweets so you can balance out how BITTER it is"
like fuck even my actually bitter/astringent Chinese green teas aren't that bad, the only time I had truly bitter tea was oversteeping cheap grocery store green tea bags in boiling water when I knew nothing about tea

>>17070488
>the only time I had truly bitter tea was oversteeping cheap grocery store green tea bags in boiling water when I knew nothing about tea
and there's your answer. most people have never made anything better.

>>17070488
Is it some translation issue? Do Japanese just have zero tolerance for bitterness because they only eat bland fatty foods?

>>17070530
oops, looks like i misread your post. my point still stands on the western perception of how bitter tea is. not sure as to the answer to your actual question though. do you have any examples of the phenomena you describe?

>>17070738
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Green_Tea_Set
I don't know if it's just a localization issue or what. I was playing a (Korean) mobage earlier where they mentioned sweets offsetting the bitterness of tea too but I can't seem to find a way to replay the event.

What's the best brown tea?

>>17061529
How do I buy tea cigarettes while making sure they're not filled with k2?

>>17071157
I don't know, i can't tell if they are really tea or if they are just tobacco pretending to be tea so they can be sold on aliexpress.

>>17063402
/lgbt/ can hook you up with the /hrt/ pdq

>>17071157
Why not just roll your own?

>>17071157
why do you want tea cigarettes?

>>17071769
DUDE

tea brewed in a billy has more flavour

just tried sheng puer, holy shit, it's exactly what I always wanted. Mint, fruity, a bit bitter, a bit sour, a bit sweet -- and refreshing as hell. Kind of regret that I'm drinking it now, perhaps on a hot spring/summer day it will be much, much better than anything else in the world.
also, does anyone know if I can use citric acid to clean my kettle from limescale if it has a thermometer on the bottom?

>>17073276
You made me curious, what tea is it?

>>17072987
more pics rest of house

>>17073307
It's a raw puer from Wu Liang which I got as a present last month. This one, however, looks very similar to what I have:

https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/pu-erh-tea/products/2020-yunnan-sourcing-wu-liang-mountain-wild-arbor-raw-pu-erh-tea-cake-1

The actual body of the cake looks like this one, but my packaging is totally different. Mine was a 100g cake, too.

People keep saying that you have to keep them for several years until they actually become greater, but this one is already wonderful. Perhaps it will be a better idea to keep it until spring or just buy one more cake and drink ripe puer/dian hong during the winter.

>>17073276
>does anyone know if I can use citric acid to clean my kettle from limescale if it has a thermometer on the bottom?
i do at least, its the main active ingredient in many commercial coffee machine and kettle descaling solutions. i prefer it to vinegar because it does not leave an odor. as an added bonus it may actually help make your stainless steel more rust resistant via passivation. if you are particularly concerned see what your kettles manual says to use.

>>17073421
Thanks, saved it in my wishlist.

>>17073421
>People keep saying that you have to keep them for several years until they actually become greater
that's not exclusively true. young sheng and aged sheng are rather different and you may have a preference for one or the other (or both). it also depends on the tea some may do better with age and other may be better fresh. If you like it as it is don't feel like you cant drink it now

if it interests you here is a quick primer on sheng puerh age categories (years are not exact definitions and will vary based on the tea and storage of it):
<3 years: fresh sheng
<5 years: young sheng
4-7 years: "awkward phase" (some but not all teas have a period where they lose the fresh characteristics but have not yet gained desirable aged ones)
8-15 years: semi aged (still reasonably priced)
15-25 years: aged (quite pricey)
25+ years: "fully" aged (rare and very expensive, mostly for collectors and the wealthy)
storage makes a huge difference as well. a tea in hot, humid environment will age faster than one in a cool, dry one. furthermore, "wet stored" and "dry stored" sheng will taste different regardless of age. that is to say a younger wet stored tea will not taste the same as an older dry stored one. if exposed to sufficiently high humidity for enough time the tea will be permanently altered (for example Hong Kong cellar storage). shou puerh generally does not change nearly as much from aging but does usually benefit from a couple years of age to get rid of the wet pile "funk".

>but my packaging is totally different. Mine was a 100g cake, too.
does it say anything on the packaging about who made it?

>>17073552
>25+ years: "fully" aged (rare and very expensive, mostly for collectors and the wealthy)
i probably overstated the price here a bit there is some stuff from the early 90s that is still reasonably purchasable you are a serious enthusiast but still expect the price to be in multiple dollars per gram for sheng of that age (fully aged shou tends to be relatively cheaper at comparable ages but still costly). the prices do keep going up with age to fairly ridiculous sums. see:
https://yeeonteaco.com/collections/puerh/products/1970s-little-yellow-mark-cnnp-7542-raw-cluster-pu-erh-tea
$280 for a single session of tea

>>17073421
If you kept the cake around your place for several years you would probably find it disappointing. Puer aging isn't as simple as older tea tastes better. When you find a puer that you think tastes great it's usually best to enjoy it in the short term ~6months to 1 year instead o% trying to age it.
Any way keep it in a plastic bag or small sealed container, especially during your dry cool months.

Just how strong is the impact of freshness on green tea? Is it night and day? I've only had old-ish green tea.

>>17074783
Usually pretty dramatic, but it matters for some teas more than others. I don't drink a lot of green tea so i cant really say first hand but ive seen some of the Japanese green enthusiast anons say it tastes noticeably different at 8 months old.

Any tisane that is better cold-brewed? I only tried cheap green tea.

>>17075054
coffee

>>17075054
Mugicha , the summer drink of nippon

Hello /tea/, how do I get the god awful floral and spicy mess that has been made in this work teapot?

>>17075970
Get a packet of coffee pot / coffee machine cleaner at the store or buy a bag of pure citric acid on amazon and add 4 tablespoons fill it with water and boil it, with the infuser basket in it. Then rise everything thoroughly and it should be squeaky clean.

>>17075768
What does barley tisane taste like and where do I buy it? Do I just buy barley kernels and roast them and throw them into hot water?

>>17076007
Any particular thing of cleaner or brand? Otherwise thanks. Here's hoping it works.

>>17076063
It's just called coffee machine cleaner or coffee pot cleaner or something like that, it should be in most supermarkets near the coffee filters.

>>17076063
Cafiza is commercial espresso machine cleaner. Alconox is powdered free rinsing lab glass cleaner. Liquinox is the liquid version of this.

anyone made tea in a percolator?

>>17076312
Ive simmered tea before, it works pretty good with ripe puer. Just break off a big piece and simmer it in a litre of water for 10-15 minutes. Makes a nice strong brew that is great to keep in a thermos for all day sipping.
Percolators aren't really great for brewing because it keeps boiling the already brewed liquid. You could probably make a super concentrated russian style black tea in one that you water down with boiling water when serving.

>>17076312
No but I've made it in an espresso machine.

i love me some sour hairy crab

Can one talk about Kombucha here? I got a scooby and currently brewing some myself. I always liked making food and drink from bacterial cultures.

>>17077575
Hell yeah, i haven't made any in a while but we have had a few anons start a batch recently, what kind of tea do you use? Are you planning on flavoring it after the initial ferment?

GIVE ME TEAPOT ADVICE

I want to put chamomile flowers into a chamber and then have great tea come out of another chamber. I've been microwaving water to a boil then putting bags in it for over a year, or putting it in stainless steel with other herbs to make chifir/witchbrew.

>>17077575
>>17077583
I've been brewing my own kombucha for a few months now and it's lovely; I was shocked by how easy it is to make something as good as storebought or better. I bought a tong of Drunk on Red from YS to use as the base- might be overkill, but it works very nicely. The best flavorings so far have been with apple/ginger juice and with grape.
Sipping some of the ginger booch right now with my morning fisherman's eggs... scrumptious!

>>17071769
Clearly you have never put chamomile into any kind of smoking device. I have a theory that all flowers produce effects when smoked.

>>17077632
Get a brew basket like the ones made by finum, or the stainless steel ones by for life.
Microwave your water in a mug, get chamomile and put it in the brew basket, then dunk it in the mug. It will be easier to clean than a teapot.
If you are in the usa mountain rose herbs is a good place to get cheap loose leaf organic chamomile.

>>17077583
I'm using some basic black tea leaves I found, since flavored tea would potentially kill it. The first batch I'll keep entirely unflavored just to really taste the core of it all. Later I'll probably try some local cloudy apple juice as flavoring. Perhaps some ginger as the anon below had tried. I occasionally put a few cuts of it in my regular tea.

>>17077634
Sounds lovely but I have no idea what "tong of drunk on red from ys to use as the base" means at all.

>>17077632
>>17077734
Other anon beat me, but I already typed it up so....

Get this brew basket. Easier to clean, and you don't have to buy a fine mesh filter to pour your tea out of when can get clogged when you pour out loose leaf chamomile. They are uaslly around $10 and if you get a large one, you can dabble into gong fu brewing and brew any size leaf. Just make sure to clean it when your done. I forgot about it once and left it in a bag for a couple days and got kinda gross and no amount of cleaning fixed it.

>>17077632
Oh, if your brewing loose leaf herbs/tea don't microwave. You won't get as good a brew; it works for bags though. Just boil water in a small pot if you don't want a kettle and set a timer so you don't forget.

>>17077685
you're right, i've never done that. why would i ever even think about smoking chamomile.

>>17077797
>tong of drunk on red from ys to use as the base"
Its some tea from the website yunnan sourcing
It's sold out on their USA store but they have plenty in china, a tong means a package of several cakes together in a bag usually 7 but sometimes more or less.
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/2018-drunk-on-red-sun-dried-black-tea-cake?_pos=1&_sid=44bfd08c4&_ss=r

>>17077815
This is fucking retarded microwaving water is fine and saying that boiling it in a kettle is somehow better, especially saying it works for bags but not looseleaf? Is pure autism.

>>17077903
I see, thanks for explaining.

>>17077906
There seems to be some kind of point to it but I just ran a quick google.
https://slate.com/culture/2013/06/microwaving-water-for-tea-why-are-the-results-so-lousy.html

having some ripe puer this afternoon, what are some good fall teas?

Everyone at work really loves the roasted darjeeling blend. Damn.

>>17078543
How does it smell?

>>17077833
Because you are not an herbalist. No shamanic lineage I'd wager.

>>17078603
Who needs their herbussy smoked.

>>17078578
Smells like sweet musty hay.

>>17079153
Nice, i think lots of people are pretty surprised by nice looseleaf because they have only ever had teabags and flavored teabags. It's like the difference between a cup of coffee in a shitty diner when the carafe has been on the heater for a few hours vs a cup of pourover made at some third wave hipster coffee shop with some light roast African coffee.

im thinking of buying from hotsoup.nl, does anyone have any recommendations for the puer and black teas they have?

sipping on some sage tea tonight.ywtw8

does DHL actually not ship to PO boxes? i've heard they just use USPS for the final delivery.

>>17079574
>hotsoup.nl
>recommendations for the puer
i don't particularly like the look of their puerh section. for example this:
https://www.hotsoup.nl/en/2009-xia-guan-tuo-cha-puer.html
is quite overpriced. and most of the rest of their selection is no name stuff that is hard to judge without actually trying it.

you may want to check out https://togo.moychay.nl/ instead for puerh if you are trying to stick to the Netherlands. you can find significantly more reviews of their teas online and they are probably less marked up as well.

>>17079574
Their puer cakes are pretty expensive, i guess i would suggest getting some looseleaf ripe, probably this one.
https://www.hotsoup.nl/nl/2013-si-mao-shu-palace-pu-erh.html
I guess you could get a small amount of this as well.
https://www.hotsoup.nl/nl/sheng-puerh-tea.html
Stay the hell away from those little single serving chunks of ripe wrapped in foil, those things always taste like fish.
For black tea
https://www.hotsoup.nl/nl/mao-feng-red.html
Try and get one from india and also either japan or taiwan as well don't go for super expensive ones and only get ones that were harvested in 2021 or 2020 at the latest.

>>17079680
I was going to suggest farmer leaf but he is sold out of all the cakes he has on france.
>>17079574
If you get puer from moychay don't get any of the stuff they fermented themselves with russian / Georgian tea, stick with the Chinese stuff.

>>17079598
Does it say anything about it on their website?
I think dhl usually delivers to your door, so i guess they wouldn't have access to po boxes

does this order from moychay look good? first time trying non grocery store tea so just buying some of everything

>>17080017
Yeah it looks fine, post about your experiences with these

>>17080017
if you have no ordered yet i got a several suggestions

instead of "Dian Sheng Pu'er Cha Bing (2005)" i would probably get this:
https://togo.moychay.nl/collections/our-sheng-raw-pu-erh/products/menghai-chen-cang-sheng-puer-2007-357-g
i found pictures of the "Dian Sheng" on one of there other sites and it looks incredibly rustic to put it lightly (it may still taste good though). the Menghai Chen Cang is a more traditional looking tea. though it is still looks a bit too pricey for what it looks like to me but i think its just EU prices are significantly higher in general (VAT?).

also i would probably get a little bit of this:
https://togo.moychay.nl/collections/our-sheng-raw-pu-erh/products/thai-sheng-pu-erh
and this:
https://togo.moychay.nl/collections/our-shu-ripe-pu-erh/products/wei-de-han-cha-moychay-com-material-2017-manufacturing-2020-357-g
and this:
https://togo.moychay.nl/collections/our-white-teas/products/jingmai-bai-cha-white-tea-from-jingmai-mountain-moychay-com-2020-357-g

if you want to keep the cost of the order around the same i would get 25g of each of the 4 teas i mentioned instead of 50g of the "Dian Sheng"

>>17080168
>>17080049
thanks, already ordered it though, but i bought this one also to save on shipping
https://togo.moychay.nl/collections/our-shu-ripe-pu-erh/products/menghai-teji-chen-xiang-2015

Coof

I've barely had any "real" tea, what are some different ones I can try to figure out what I like?

>>17080401
>no worries, your original order was fine. i was just tying to round out your order a bit and include more different categories since you are new. hope you enjoy your tea. if you want to share your experiences or have questions feel free to post here. out of curiosity what made you want to try puer as part of your first tea order?

>>17080401
no worries, your original order was fine. i was just tying to round out your order a bit and include more different categories since you are new. hope you enjoy your tea. if you want to share your experiences or have questions feel free to post here. out of curiosity what made you want to try puer as part of your first tea order?

>>17081851
Darjeeling - floral black
Assam - malty black
Earl grey - black flavoured with bergamot oil
try a green but dont use full boiling aim for 80c, longjin aka dragon well is a favour one
white tea is sweet with hay and honey notes, white leaf tea can take full boiling, white buds aim again for 80c. lots of places sell variety packs i fist got into tea with a pack off vahdam

had some 2009 Menghai Purple Ripe from Yee On Tea Co. today
https://yeeonteaco.com/products/2009-purple-tea-ripe-tea-cake-7342h
here are my tasting notes:

Appearance: its a mixed grade cake, leaves are reasonably whole but with some breakage (typical for shou), its got some stems and i did find a couple of bits of foreign material (a small pebble and a seed). not terrible but Kunming tea factory could stand to do better with the sorting.

Taste: base taste is the typical earthy shou, loam and some peat, no fishiness that i could discern, on top of that its got some sweet and earthy cooked beets (geosmin) from the wet storage, additionally its also got a hint of some licorice or some sort of traditional Chinese medicine, "dirty water" mouthfeel, no significant bitterness.

"Feel": quite stimulating, it hits hard and fast, very very "dank", perhaps too aggressively earthy for me (but i am not the biggest fan of ripe at this point, it often does not agree with me), I ended up finishing my tea session early but i may go back and finish it later.

Conclusion: its a decent but otherwise unremarkable ripe puerh that has had aggressive cellar storage superimposed onto it. if you like both shou and wet cellar storage this tea is for you and would make a great "daily drinker" but if you are on the fence for either of those two then your mileage will vary. i enjoyed tasting the tea but it is going to take me a long time to get though the whole cake as its not something i think i will reach for regularly.

>>17081937
puer just seems interesting to me since i usually eat a lot of fermented stuff

>>17082205
that's one way to get interested in it. as a note raw puerh unless it has been aged somewhere humid is not really fermented (it starts out like a green tea). shou puerh and some other heicha (dark tea) like most liu bao or fu zhuan are however microbially altered. as a bit of confusing tea terminology you will sometimes see black tea and oolongs being referred to as "fermented" but they really mean oxidized as the process does not involve microorganisms. its just a bit old terminology that has stuck around.

Been trying black tea recently. I like Irish and English breakfast but the aroma of earl gray puts me on my ass. It is really intense.

>>17082205
I think that's definitely the way to go. Pick up some cheap cakes, try them, stick them in a pumi, and move on to tasting some loose leaves until you feel like digging out something you liked a few weeks ago to see how your perception has changed.

>>17082189
Damn that sounds pretty good

Grabbed a tea cold-brew pitcher from a Japanese grocer today because fuck it why not.
Sometimes I just want to chug a glass of cold green tea.

no problem, have a good one
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>>17082386
Yeah the flavoring in earl grey can be pretty strong, it has bergamot oild sprayed on it which gives it that strong somewhat citrusy aroma.

>>17083965
Post your results

Dear teafags,

Can you give some recommendations for a reputable online place to order puerh? And recommendations on what to look for?

I recently tried it for the first time at a local Chinese restaurant (legit Chinese, not “chinese”); it cost quite a bit more for a small pot than their other teas but I figured I’d give it a shot.
It was absolutely remarkable. “Earthy” isn’t the word, unless the earth in question came from an ancient sacred forest or something.
I really want to explore this particular sort of tea but don’t really know where to start.

if the anon with the siam-teas advent calendar is here, how is it so far?

>>17084154
Threw some dragonwell/longjing in it for a test run.
I’ll post an ‘after’ pic tomorrow morning.

>>17084155
The pastebin has a lot of good stores, it sounds like you bad a ripe or fermented puer.
Let me grab a few recommendations one sec.

>>17084190
My bad, didn’t even check the OP links.

>>17084155
>>17084201
That's fine it's pretty overwhelming
Here is the sort of standard benchmark for ripe puer. This is a bit more on the caramel type flavors end off the spectrum.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2012-yr-menghai-dayi-classic-7572-ripe-puerh-100-quality-guarantee-taetea-chinese-puer-tea-for-gift-packing-150g-pc37-aged-puerh-best-organic-tea-p0140.html
This is from the same factory, almost a sort of slightly burnt Belgian waffle vibe if that makes any sense
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/taetea-yunnan-puer-tuo-tea-2018-v93-shu-puer-tuocha-100g-p0592.html
If you don't mind spending a bit more this full size cake offers free shipping. Maybe save this link for later.
https://www.farmer-leaf.com/collections/ripe-pu-erh-tea/products/2021-jingmai-ripe

>>17084201
>>17084236
If you really want earth, dirt, soil, beets in a root cellar, some smoke, real dirt tasting stuff.
https://yeeonteaco.com/collections/puerh/products/2008-ripe-puerh-tea-brick-jinggu-factory

>>17084246
But we are talking serious dirt, see this anons description of another tea from the same shop
>>17082189

>>17084246
>$150 HKD
Holy shit I felt instantly better after running the conversion.
And this stuff is seriously good for 10-20 infusions like that site says?

>>17084155
>Can you give some recommendations for a reputable online place to order puerh?
check out the pastebin: https://pastebin.com/80GeeXJV
this is probably the single most popular puerh vendor and is a good starting place
https://yunnansourcing.com/
and
https://yunnansourcing.us/
.us ships from the us instead of china but has worse selection

you are in luck one of the vendors is dong their yearly "Puerh Beginner Package" promotion. only buy one or two units though buying extra does not mean you get more.
https://www.liquidproust.com/listing/719815976/2021-puerh-beginner-package

>And recommendations on what to look for?
grab a mix of samples or small cakes that interest you. try to get some of both raw and ripe and also some ob both young and aged.

>I recently tried it for the first time at a local Chinese restaurant
did they say if the puerh was raw/sheng or ripe/shou/"cooked"? if the tea liquor was a very dark color than it was probably a ripe.

also if you want to get into puerh i would highly recommend look up "gong-fu" style brewing and get a small gaiwan or teapot. they can be quite cheap (≈$10) and a lot of puerh (and other Chinese tea as well) benefit substantially from it.

if you get anything be sure to share your experiences with us. its always fun to have someone to talk with.

>>17084276
>And this stuff is seriously good for 10-20 infusions like that site says?
If you make each infusion 5 seconds, i would say , 5-8 stong brews is more realistic, but this they are talking about brewing gongfu style, not western style in a teapot, more info in pastebin, western style you could brew in a teapot 3 times and get a decent cup out of each

>>17084315
*5-8 strong brews

>>17084155
>“Earthy” isn’t the word, unless the earth in question came from an ancient sacred forest or something.
You may also want to check out some liu bao. Purplecloudteahouse is a good us source for it. Fermented black tea, kind of similar to ripe puerhs.

>>17084292
>did they say if the puerh was raw/sheng or ripe/shou/"cooked"? if the tea liquor was a very dark color than it was probably a ripe.
The English part of the menu item just said “puerh”.
It was quite dark, and when I only put a tiny splash into the white cup to see some color, it had a reddish-brown hue.

>>17084362
Yeah that's ripe puerh

>>17084362
then it was probably ripe.

>>17084362
since no one else has i guess point out the difference.
sheng: starts like a very strong green tea but changes into something else as it ages.
shou: they take sheng and ferment/compost it in wet piles to make it.

>>17084366
>>17084387
I just wish I had tried it sooner. I love strong pungent fermented stuff. Hell, I love funazushi, while my Japanese fiancée refuses to touch the stuff.

>>17084405
Thanks for the primer. I was wondering the main difference between the raw/ripe items in the online stores.

back on the cheap grocery store teabag shit while I wait for my orders to get here

>>17084424
> I love strong pungent fermented stuff
Damn we are gonna be friends.
Are you in the USA?
>>17084674
Damn, i have a jar full of loose leaf Lipton somewhere luckily i still have some back up tea but i do need to hurry up and get some orders in soon

>>17084740
>Are you in the USA?
Right now, yeah. I own a house in Osaka, but made the mistake of visiting my family in the US when coof got bad and still can’t go back to Japan. They don’t offer a “but I literally own a fucking house” visa, and I hadn’t yet obtained residency or gotten married.

>>17084832
Okay a few other things you should buy/ bookmark if you are into the fermented stuff.
These guys are on the west coast so shipping should be pretty quick. This is another type of fermented tea, it is usually stored by the factory in a hot humid warehouse and or old underground bomb shelters by the factory for several years before it is repackaged and sold. These teas can get pricey but they are very smooth and have usually a rich woody, soil type flavor. Sorry their descriptions of each tea arent better but these ones all should be good and are made by the most famous liu bao factories.
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/liu-bao/products/2005-si-jin-quan-four-gold-coins-liu-bao-tea?variant=30260139687979
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/liu-bao/products/2020-zhong-cha-chen-liu-bao-tea-250g-box
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/liu-bao/products/san-he-three-cranes-golden-flower-liu-bao-tea-200g?variant=39351726047275
They also have liuan which is another type of fermented tea but i would hold ofd on that for now since they don't seem to be offering sample sizes, this is more on the chocolaty end of the spectrum, ir is also extremely stimulating and gets your stomach digesting at a rapid pace so its better after a large meal, i have a basket i enjoy but i don't fond enough times when i want to drink it because of how stimulating it is.
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/liu-an-tea/products/2014-liu-an-250g-basket-1st-grade

>>17084948
I think I’m gonna pull the trigger on ordering some
https://yeeonteaco.com/collections/puerh/products/2008-ripe-puerh-tea-brick-jinggu-factory
And
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/liu-bao/products/2005-si-jin-quan-four-gold-coins-liu-bao-tea?variant=

With the latter, the mere fact the description includes “Off-putting to some to be sure..” is enough to make me think I’ll probably love it.

>>17084970
Nice those should both be good choices

>>17085019
Ended up ordering top from Yunnan and bottom from purplecloud.
Funny that they both use the same e-commerce system.
Gonna hold off on ordering that other from Yeeon in HK until I put a larger order together to make the shipping worth it.

>>17085096
Yeah that makes sense, international shipping is still fucked from covid

>>17085096
Also i really want to hear what you think of that four gold coins liubao, I'm strongly considering buying a kilo

>>17085307
I’ll be sure and update in whatever tea general thread is going at the time. I should have it Wednesday, and the other order on Tuesday (assuming they both ship on Monday).

>>17084189
4.5hrs later and its really just getting more cloudiness than color.
But it’s probably my bad; the tea is far past when it should have just been thrown out for being old/dry.
If it looks/tastes lousy in the morning, I’ll try again with some fresh sencha I got today.

>>17085412
Hmm, i bet it will be alright

>>17085420
Hopefully. But the tea is definitely old and crusty, so it’s my own fault if it turns out lousy.

>>17082189
has anyone else here had this tea? im curious as to your opinions of it.

>>17085437
Sweet jar
>>17085443
I think our grumpy euro friend had some, he pops in occasionally

>>17085458
>Sweet jar
Thanks; I have a couple and have always liked them.
Only complaint is that I used to have one in my office for when I wanted tea, and a colleague saw it and remarked “Oh wow! That looks exactly like the urns I keep my cremated pet ferrets in!”
Then she showed me some pics on her phone. She has an entire shelf of like 9 or 10 black ceramic urns that apparently contain departed ferret ashes.

I literally can’t use these jars now without thinking of that weirdness every time.

>>17084740
It's not even Lipton, it's some cheap grocery store brand.
Only like 7c/gram and I'll probably be able to steep it enough times in my small cup to justify it, just hope the flavor is agreeable. It's supposed to be sencha+matcha but I don't know how much stock I put in that for teabags. I would assume for 7c/g I'm getting Sanbancha/Shuutoubancha trimmings sprinkled with culinary grade matcha.

>>17085412
>>17085437
I know you wanted to cold brew, but I probably would've steeped tea that old in boiling water just to extract the most from it.

>>17085576
Eh, it’s just an initial test run. That tea should probably be tossed anyway, so I consider it an experiment.

>>17085612
Cheap tiawanese tiegianyan from the china market is incredibly based in an overnight cold brew. I've never actually measured how much I'm tossing in though. What size vessel and how much tea?

>>17085656
The pitcher is 2.1L when filled to the top.
>how much tea
Because it’s old and I don’t care to “waste” it, I just threw in a “bunch”.
I don’t mind really strong brew so I figured I’d rather overdo it than underdo it.

I'm actually going to Sri Lanka in a few months. Can anyone recommend any tea shops in Colombo?

>throw a citrus peel in my gaiwan on top of my green tea
>adds a lovely citrus zest to it
nice... will have to start paying the extra for organic citrus fruits so I can steep the rinds without worrying about pesticide exposure.

I always like Shou but Sheng hasn’t really hit me yet. The 400g sampler from W2T was a mistake it’s just tastes average. The 2017 Big Green Hype is alright but I wouldn’t crave it. Any recommendations anons?

>>17086407
Old sheng, stray away from anything made in the last decade, go for stuff with heavier storage, taiwan, maybe even hong kong. Drinking young green puer that hasn't spent half a decade or more in a wet basement warehouse in hong kong is new trend. Sheng used to be considered undrinkable untill it had spent enough time in an hk warehouse to turn brown and taste like soil.
I had to make my recommendations an pastebin because 4 chan thought it was spam
https://pastebin.com/DNU29GRc

>>17086407
Also the front page of king tea mall has a bunch of recently added older raws, with tasting notes you could pick a few of those out to try.

Recommendations for a "Christmasy" tea? Cost is not an issue.

>>17086498
https://www.mariagefreres.com/UK/2-noel-cotton-muslin-tea-sachets-TB921.html
https://www.mariagefreres.com/UK/2-noel-T921.html
Or something else from their holiday selection
https://www.mariagefreres.com/UK/1-christmas_tea.html

>>17086513
Thanks but I'm an American so can't buy it.

>>17086610
They do ship overseas.
Anyways celestial seasonings makes a bunch of Christmas flavored herbal teas, check out their website.

>>17086407
yeah its a meme, nice to try but dont force yourself to love it. its mostly pushed by vendors because unlike green it wont go off after a year and every year it ages they can bump up the price so unsold stock becomes an investment not wasted space

>>17083965
>>17084189
>>17085412
And this morning.
Slightly more color; honestly it’s about the same as when the tea is brewed hot. Flavor is good, just kind of “old” tasting.
I’ll try again tonight with some fresh sencha.

>>17086861
Is that drinking sake or cooking sake behind it?

>>17086871
Drinking. It’s a junmai ginjo. I also have a really nice junmai daiginjo in there.

>>17086891
Nice, i have a local wine store that actually carries some decent sake but i haven't gotten around to buying any.

>>17086891

>>17086902
The right is about $12, the left is $80ish

>>17086407
>I always like Shou but Sheng hasn’t really hit me yet.
you don't have to like everything. i would think of young sheng, aged sheng, and shou to be three different genres of tea. I drink all three of them though i have a preference towards sheng both young and old.

what is it specifically you don't like about young sheng?

>Any recommendations anons?
you could try this.
https://www.liquidproust.com/listing/719815976/2021-puerh-beginner-package
but only buy one or two units though buying extra does not mean you get more. he also probably going to take a while to ship so if you get it expect a bit of a wait.

if you want some sheng to taste "earthy" try some from:
https://yeeonteaco.com/
i cant guarantee you will like there storage but you probably at least will not find it boring.

>>17086861
it's better to let the tea steep without the basket and use a strainer afterwards

had some 2005 Mengban, Shuangxiong Tea Factory brick today
https://www.liquidproust.com/listing/984860088/2005-mengban-shuangxiong-tea-factory
here are my tasting notes:

Appearance: dry and wet leaves are a dark brown color indicative of their age, liquor is a dark red, decent quality leaves, probably mostly mid to small grade, a few small stems but not an excessive amount, rather tightly pressed, leaves are a bit broken in the cup but i think its mostly because they got broken prying them off the cake and not because they were particularly broken or chopped to begin with.

Taste: quite sour, green plums, perhaps a bit of sour berries, some smoky and savory notes, BBQ, old leather, maybe a hint of some florals from an old bouquet, no signs of wet storage, moderate bitterness, quite astringent and puckery, reasonably stimulating, good longevity.

Conclusion: its a nice tea but not quite the tea i was looking for when i ordered it. it is still a pretty intense tea despite its age and storage. i was kind hoping for something that had mellowed out a bit more for when i want an easy drink. the smoky and sour elements remind me a bit of fu zhuan though this tea is more astringent than any fu zuan i have tried. the level of sourness and astringency is kind of unique i don't think any of my other teas match it in those regards. its not a half bad brick if you like something with a bit of a rougher, rustic character to it.

>>17087500
Damn i really need to hurry up and grab one of those bricks.

>>17086470
>Drinking young green puer that hasn't spent half a decade or more in a wet basement warehouse in hong kong is new trend.
tell that to the people of Yunnan, Tibet, or Mongolia. aged puerh becoming trendy in HK and Tiawan is still a relatively modern thing as well.

>>17086683
>its mostly pushed by vendors because unlike green it wont go off
not everything is some sort of conspiracy against you. the reason puerh just recently got popular in China is trying to "reclaim their traditions" and the rising middle and upper class want things to conspicuously consume. its not like they stopped making pre qingming longjing.

>>17087621
if you like the typical semi-aged xiaguan sheng i would think you would like this as well. not that it is exactly the same or anything just that its got a similar energy to it. i will add a caveat to my review that i did really overleaf it so if you if you use more sane ratios it may not have quite the same kick. still i would say this is a tea that has not lost its bite quite yet.

>>17088432
Yeah i was hoping for something with that kind of vibe, plus I'm not really sensitive to bitterness so as long as it's not off the charts i usually find it enjoyable. I was pretty much sold on his description of tastes like a mengku tea but also a bit smokey.

>>17088411
>"reclaim their traditions"
sure but that doesn't change affect western vendors selling to westerners, yes its become more popular in china but it is also something that gets more valuable with age
>not everything is some sort of conspiracy against you.
false, also i still drink the stuff its just not the be all and end all of tea in spite of what vendors push

>>17088542
>sure but that doesn't change affect western vendors selling to westerners
the rise of "gushu" "single origin" sheng was already happening by the time puerh took of in the west. same goes for puerh "investing" which is just starting to take off here, the trends in the west follows mostly follows the east. puerh was a commodity item that the wealthy Chinese adjacent regions of Hong Kong and Taiwan serendipitously discovered ageing of and subsequently developed developed a taste for. when China "opened up" this demand led to a run on the market and brought us to where we are today. the history of puerh over the last century has been so tumultuous and dynamic that strictly adhering to some sort of purist ideal of "authenticity" and "tradition" seems not only futile but also inaccurate. i would worry more about drinking good tea then getting too bogged down in semantics; the ultimate proof is always in the cup.

>it is also something that gets more valuable with age
that does not necessarily translate purely into profit. warehousing costs money and there is always the possibility that prices on your products will not go up enough to have justified the investment. while i do think that western vendors often have too much markup it would not surprise me if their net profits are not really all that impressive.

>its just not the be all and end all of tea in spite of what vendors push
but they don't claim that. why are you mad or surprised the puerh specialty stores mainly sell puerh and push the product they base their business on? all the notable puerh stores got their reputation from selling puerh before branching out. its not like they were one-stop tea stores that got rid the rest of their stock so they could push puerh in hopes of saving on spoilage costs. they sprung up because it provided a new market opportunity and the differences in sourcing and marketing made it difficult for other tea vendors to get into. many started as enthusiasts.

>>17088542
>things that become more desirable with age on top of becoming more rare the older it gets become more valuable with age
Yes. See many sorts of alcohol, violins, giant single slabs of wood used to make $10k desks/tables, and a ton of other things.
I fail to see what makes this concept difficult or conspiratorial.

>>17088698
Are you twodog or something? This sounds like something he would say

>>17088824
Lol twodog would be grumbling about how he thinks there is no drinkable semi aged sheng for less than $250 a cake

>>17088810
>I fail to see what makes this concept difficult or conspiratorial.
i never said that there is no point in ageing things or that it never has value. the original anon (you?) was claiming vendors decided to push puerh because then they would not have to worry about spoilage. also a number of the cases you mentioned are great examples of where added value of prestige make up as much more of the value than the actual aging. even actual violinists can't consistently identify a Stradivarius based on its sound or performance characteristics but that does not stop them from being worth a fortune. people will say the wine tastes better if you tell them it was expensive. i don't value rarity simply for the sake of rarity.

>Are you twodog or something? This sounds like something he would say
no i am not, Twodog goes too far in the other direction. I don't like his marketing strategy, he comes off as making excuses to avoid telling the truth in order to hide markup while simultaneous trying to build up a sense of value though "mystery". its postmodernism applied to tea salesmanship. i want things to be honest and transparent as reasonably possible but i don't like it when people try to create overly narrow definitions in order to try to enhance "exclusivity", or when they dismiss anything that not orthodox out of hand because they want to maintain the status quo.

Dang, /tea/ used to be comfy. Now it’s infested with CCP shills shilling their slave made tea, and puer dykes. Loads and loads of puer lesbians. Wtf. Where did all the non-pozzed /tea/ anons flee to?

>>17089263
Just talk about other tea. It seems like a lot of people stopped ordering Japanese tea because they don't want to pay $20 for DHL shipping, neets hardest hit.

>>17089276
Pretty sure it’s coordinated posting from bugmen shills and discord dykes who love puer.

>>17089291
Go to that image board that's about tea that's only open for like 6 hours a day. I forget the name unfortunately.

I did it. I found a grocery store tea that both smells and tastes like the cheap faux-leather upholstery in a new car.

>>17089263
>Where did all the non-pozzed /tea/ anons flee to?
as far is i can tell everyone is still here its just been a bit slow lately and a couple of are more mild mannered anons have been posting less. they are probably just busy.

>>17089276
>Just talk about other tea.
this be the change you want to see. nobody here is stopping people from posting about other teas.

>>17089291
>bugmen shills and discord dykes who love puer.
i am neither Chinese, a shill, a discord user, or a lesbian but i do like my puerh.

>>17089303
It's not for discussing /tea/ I asked about that yesterday and they said it's just a general NEETboard.
Tea discussion is allowed, you won't get banned/they aren't rude about it. It's just not solely for the discussion of tea.

>>17089263
I'm here but I'm just lurking and occasionally responding to questions while I wait for an actual shipment of tea to show up so I can provide impressions/tasting notes.
I'm almost out of Gunpowder actually which is very unfortunate.

>>17089326
Is that good?

>>17089303
never heard of such a place
is this it?
https://chakai.org/tea/
i am kind of curious and i would be interested in checking it out. though honestly, i think it sounds like the kind of place that would end up full of maladjusted individuals. they love their super secret clubs.

>>17089362
Yeah that's it
But like this anon said
>>17089330
It's not really about tea, or it is, but it's also just a small private hangout spot

>>17089346
I don't know but it's amusing.
I'm going to experiment with steeping temp/time and see if I can coax a different flavor out of it.
It's a cheap Yuzu flavor but I found it interesting that the first thought that sprang to mind was "new car"

>>17089371
Yeah that's it
thanks
>It's not really about tea, or it is, but it's also just a small private hangout spot
well at least its good to know all my tea frens here didn't leave start a new image board without telling me.

>>17089371
>Yeah that's it
thanks
>It's not really about tea, or it is, but it's also just a small private hangout spot
well at least its good to know all my tea frens here didn't leave to start a new image board without telling me.

>>17089410
I'm still here, i post everyday but i mostly just answer questions, i haven't bought any new tea since the beginning of the year.

>>17089362
wtf theyre discussing personal shit and talking about baking you lied to me again

>>17089493
Last time i went there at least a few posts were about tea, but that was a long time ago.

I wish schizoshillanon would fuck off there forever.

>>17086470
>>17086683
>>17087049
Thanks anons, yeah honestly I fell for the marketing, Puerh seemed to be like the ‘acquired taste’ teas which is why I went for it.

I liked the samples shou samples W2T like Cream felt like drinking milk and Old Reliable was mellow and sweet. With Sheng it just tasks like drinking wet fabric half the time.

Those samplers do look good but shippings always a bitch.
NKRD

>>17089263
>used to be comfy
>SHILLS AND DYKES AND COMMUNISTS
Your perceived difference might stem from having stopped taking your meds?

has anyone here grown and oxidized their own tea?

>>17090075
I have a bush planted in the backyard, just started it this year so i haven't picked any leaves yet. Hopefully it makes it over the winter, i live in a cold area but the variety im growing was developed by the tea research institute in Sochi Russia and intended to be cold hardy.
I got it from this nursery.
https://camforest.com/collections/tea-camellias/
They have some brief articles on growing and making tea
https://www.teaflowergardens.com/growing-tea.html
https://www.teaflowergardens.com/making-tea.html
I will probably try to make white tea at first, it seems to be the easiest.

>>17089952
That’s funny because I wasn’t on meds when /tea/ was comfy but started taking Zoloft six months ago. /tea/ was a Chinese dyke shillfest six months ago.

>>17090260
Been that way for years newfriend.

Personally I plan on making Yellow Tea if I ever get my own bushes started.

Tried my first tea from Laos.

It's from the Siam Tea Advent calendar, said I would share my experiences
with some of the more interesting teas so here I go.

(The first day was their Dian Hong Cha, nothing truly special but beautiful quality!)

4th Advent is a black tea from semi-wild tea trees in Xaysathan, a place in western Laos.
Siam Tea has pretty in depth description of their teas so I just link to that.

https://www.siam-teas.com/product/xaysathan-red-elephant-arbor-black-tea/

The actual taste of the tea is subtle but very pleasant.
Smooth. On the 3th and 4th pour sweet fruity flavours appeared.
It has been 20 minutes since I tasted it but the taste still is lingering
in my mouth. Right now I am enjoying my christmas holiday, this helps for a relaxed feeling I am experiencing but
the tea was definitely part of the experience.

If you look up the teas of Laos you usually see descriptions
like "organically grown" and "biodiverse" and to me it falls
into that category of food. You can kinda taste the quality of the food is better,
less artifical, but does it also improve the taste? It also makes it more subtle
and less pronounced.

Don't know if I can recommend it with the price (26,90e / 100g), but I am
curious about the other Laotian teas the calender will provide!

>>17090938
Thanks anon, looking forward for more reviews. I was looking at their thai, vietnamese and laos teas, but i couldn't justify spending even more money on tea when i already have 2 orders stuck in customs.

>>17090260
>Chinese
>shills
>tea
Okay, can you give a list of countries from which tea can be discussed without the people discussing it just being shills who are pretending to like it because marketing conspiracy?
Am I shill if I try to discuss gyukoro? Or does that make me a weeb instead?

>>17091997
I mean the saying is
>for all the tea in china
Not japan. Certainly not india.

Reminder that December 15th is international tea day. If you have a tea that you save for special occasions then this is a perfect time.

>>17092473
Das my birthday. I had the dumb expensive mengku ripe last year.

The king of duck shit (aroma) just arrived.
Smells like duck shit.

>>17092671
How does it taste? Those dancong oolongs are usually pretty floral right?

>>17092684
First 3 pulls I did at 95C so I think I over did it. Tastes smooth, little bitter, herbal like, floral? I don't know. I still think it's good. I'll play around with brewing it before saying for sure what I think it tastes like, but it is definitely not as bad as some of the oolongs I got in the sampler pack. Those were just over roasted and really strong grassy bitter mess.

I mostly bought it because the name was funny.

>>17092713
Yeah i would probably start at 85c for that, maybe bring it up to 90c if it can take the heat.

this is going to be my introduction to Earl Grey, am i fucked?

>>17092391
Yeah but that saying was probably invented by a Chinese tea dealer trying to shill his tea. He spread the saying like a meme, and got rich from it.

>>17090092
thanks for the links! I'm looking into this. I'm also going to try growing ginger this season to make some ginger beer

>>17092921
Invented by poor brits after losing their monopoly of the chinese tea trade and being forced to steal chinese tea genetics and take back to british india. Its a statement of comparative value. They only had access shit tier tea and recognized the quality of chinese tea vs their bastardized clones.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3081255-for-all-the-tea-in-china

>>17092866
Probably. Looks awful.

i swear im going to get some Japanese tea next spring, i actually like green tea when i drink it i just never feel the urge to buy it. I really want to try Japanese fermented teas but they seem like they are mostly a novelty and not something that anyone over there actually drinks daily.

>>17072987
K-kay, is that you sweetheart?
>>17077734
>>17077810
Can confirm, these things are worth every penny if you use loose tea or dehydrated something like your own mint. Currently made some mint tea and sipping happily away on it.
>>17077632
Buy pic related, worth the $10 or so it cost for 2 of them.

>>17093722
ooops wrong pic attached :^)

>>17093726
Yah i really like the fine mesh because it keeps even really dusty chamomile out or your mug

>>17093722
>kneecap.jpg
is that what happens when you piss off a puerh lesbian while they're on the rag?

>>17073552
>>17073552
><3 years: fresh sheng
><5 years: young sheng
Thanks, anon. Didn't realize there was distinction between these two.

Just finished a session with the 2021 liu bao from Bitterleaf's September Tea Market experience (https://www.bitterleafteas.com/shop/tea/the-tea-market-experience).).

I've never had hei cha before, but this was a great first experience. I couldn't place the dry leaf smell - Bitterleaf says ginseng, but I've never had raw ginseng. As soon as I rinsed it, I immediately recognized it as beets.

Nice THICC body, pleasant beety sweetness with this lingering bitterness that I expected from a tea this dark.

Pretty intense too; feel great, but probably not how I want to given how late it is.

>>17094032
Yeah i fond that lots of heicha tends to be really potent stuff.
Also yeah beets is something i see referenced a lot, i have one tin of liubao that just smells like a root cellar full of beets

Drinking the Shoo! from W2T. It's fine, dunno if I have much to say about it yet.

>>17094064
Yeah, it's just fine, I like shou in generally but this is one of those cakes that makes me get why people don't. Very bland and slightly composty. Not really any cha qi, like you might get from the sheng. Definitely isn't bad, I'll probably brew this in a thermos. I can confidently say that I did not get a good or a bad deal on this.

>>17063117
>Seems weird to heat water in a kettle then pour it in a pot
You do this to control the temperature.
If you like her a lot and want to get her something she'll use everyday for the rest of her life get her a zoshirushi temperature controlled kettle instead of a pot, but if you must get a pot or tea set, maybe find a local tea shop and let one of the shopkeeps help you pick something out since you don't know what you're looking for.
The term to use for finding the flower tea she likes is 'blooming tea' btw

>>17063117
Found a cute pot she can use blooming tea in it anon, maybe she likes pink?
>https://yunomi.life/collections/tea-pots/products/saikai-ceramics-gaeden-glass-tea-pot-baby-pink
This site is legit, I got some whisky oak barrel smoked black tea from here and it opened my world, they have a candied sakura green tea that looks cute, don't know if it's good though.

>>17093911
>Thanks, anon. Didn't realize there was distinction between these two.
take all the terns and times with a grain of salt. i am not sure sure if i have heard the distinction before or if i just made it up. my thought process was that after the first few years the teas may have lost much of its super fresh characteristics but still be very green. and if the tea does not not go though an "awkward phase" the the amount of time it could be called young is extended so the phase "young sheng" covers quite a range. therefore, I though it was worth making the distinction between the really fresh stuff and other not so fresh sheng.

whats the best way to gongfu white tea? i have Bai Mu Dan, Shou Mei and Gong Mei. im talking weight vs vol, temp and times

>>17095151
6-8g per 100ml, 10 second rinse, infusion times 15-30-35-60-1:30-2:00

having some of a dry-stored semi-aged Dayi Jia Ji sheng toucha today. it seems to be a nice tea. there is an interesting contrast between it and comparable Xiaguans. the Dayi does not have any significant smoke or BBQ notes, it leans more towards herbaceous and spicy side then the old leather and mushroom side, its also a little lighter tasting and less rough than the typical Xiaguan.

>>17095349
Is that from YS?
I had a 2009 dayi tuo a while ago, i remember it being good, i agree it wasn't as smokey as typical xiaguan fare and maybe not quite as strong, it was also pretty smooth iirc.

I have 3 teas at home
lipton yellow label
pg tips
twinings english breakfast
are these good?

>>17095493
They are good for teabags you can buy at a grocery store but very mediocre compared to a moderately priced loose leaf English blend.

>>17095500
where do I buy that?

I love tea but it stains your teeth like a motherfucker

>>17095502
You in the usa?
If you like a strong tea that needs milk
https://www.uptontea.com/breakfast-tea-blends/scottish-breakfast-loose-leaf-black-tea/p/V00406/
If you want something that good with or without milk and sugar
https://www.uptontea.com/breakfast-tea-blends/english-breakfast-loose-leaf-black-tea/p/V00408/
Another that's good with milk
https://www.uptontea.com/breakfast-tea-blends/english-breakfast-loose-leaf-black-tea/p/V00404/
And another that can go with or without
https://www.uptontea.com/breakfast-tea-blends/english-breakfast-loose-leaf-black-tea/p/V00405/
And grab one of these filters for brewing your tea in a mug
https://www.uptontea.com/tea-infusers/finum-stainless-steel-brewing-basket-med/p/V00471/

>>17095557
Why do I need to order online? Why is loose leaf better? Why can't I buy packets of loose leaf in the grocery store? I tried once and it was no better than bags.

>>17095576
>why order online?
Unless you are really lucky you won't have a good teashop nearby where you live
>Why can't I buy packets of loose leaf in the grocery store?
You answered your own question
>I tried once and it was no better than bags.
Most of the tea on the market is cheap commodity goods bought at wholesale auctions and blended to make a consistent product, good quality looseleaf is a very different product, it's processed differently and tastes significantly better, also usually teas like the ones i linked are cheaper by weight than teabags are.

>>17095493
I feel like yellow label has less taste and smell than the other two

>>17095557
I'm not in the USA. Don't they ship worldwide? Why so fucking expensive? 26 dollars for 500g plus shipping? Ok maybe less expensive than a latte at a coffee shop but not much.

>>17095400
>Is that from YS?
no it was from somewhere else, though i don't remember where i got it from. mine is from 2010 and is defiantly dry stored so it should be pretty comparable.
>not quite as strong, it was also pretty smooth iirc.
i agree with that.
the Dayi sheng tous don't seem to get much love but they seem nice to me and are quite reasonably priced especially by Dayi standards.

>>17095638
>Why so fucking expensive?
thats still only like 50 cents a day, its not realy bad at all. get some Yorkshire Gold Loose Leaf if you want somthing cheaper

>>17095638
Where are you from? The pastebin has vendors on every continent. You should be able to find a shop where you live.

Last time shilling this puer sample set from liquid proust
100g of different interesting puer for $9 shipped.
I was super happy with what i got last year. Wat mire than $9 worth of tea.
Just don't get greedy and order more than 2 sets. You won't get more tea if you do.
https://www.liquidproust.com/shop/22524528/other

>>17095765
>Last time shilling this puer sample set from liquid proust
im the LP shill here, you are an imposter.
as another warning he takes a a while to ship the beginner sample sets so it may be awhile before you get it (he ships the rest of his inventory fast though). I wonder how long it will take for him to ship mine. i am really looking forward to getting it.

>>17095842
I just got around to ordering today so i will probably be waiting till the end of the month/early January

>>17095533
I know that was one negative side for me but I went to dental cleaning last year and they have this water blast thing nowadays that kinda just blasts all the stains away ! Teeth look fresh again

>>17095576
>I tried once and it was no better than bags.
yes, "English Breakfast" and other black tea blends like that are tasteless garbage and no matter how much you pay or what quality you buy it all tastes like bland garbage because that's what it's supposed to taste like

what did you all sip today?

>>17097192
I had liubao all day, one from cofco in the morning and one from three cranes in the afternoon. Both were good. Ive been super lazy lately and brewing everything grampa style which liu bao is particularly suited for.

>>17097192
some shitty lapsang souchong from 4 years ago

>>17080017
Jesus christ those prices for 50g, it's like white2tea levels of overpriced

>>17097192
2013 Autumn Ye Sheng from YS. It's lost some of its old roasty notes, maybe my humidity is a bit off, but it's still tasty.

>>17097679
Is that that one with the tree on the front? The one that tasted like mesquite bbq?

is it possible to consistently pour with a gaiwan without losing a little bit of tea, or is that why the tea tray exists?

>>17097192
Today I got around to trying the YS "Drunk on Red". I didn't know what to expect out of it and the first brew didn't grab me but it got pretty good. Here's my detailed tasting note

YS 2018 "Drunk on Red" Black Tea Cake
7 grams in 140ml gaiwan
Dry leaf has slight fruit smell, wet leaf smelled much more intense, like red berries (strawberry or raspberry)
1st brew: I gave it a rinse then brewed it for 15 seconds at 208f, it has a prominent berry type acidity akin to the smell, also somewhat bitter and tannic, but overall didn't have much flavor.
On subsequent brews I added 5 seconds and the taste started to 'open up'. The bitterness faded, giving way to a subtle toffee-like taste in the background and a malty aftertaste. The acidic notes remained throughout. After the 4th brew it was pretty consistent and I got about 10.
>>17098451
I don't know if there's a way to consistently get no drips or spills, but I get a little better at it each time. I forego a tea tray and just wipe up drips instead.

>>17098451
I have more trouble with tiny teapots than gaiwans when i comes to spilling, i basically just jam the gaiwan over whatever im pouring into as i begin to tilt it. Of course if i do high pours trying to be all fancy i will get some splatter.

>>17098488
Sounds good, the idea of aged black tea is pretty interesting, ive had a few black tea cakes around that were a few years old and i usually enjoyed them.

>>17098488
The real question is did you get drunk on red?

>>17095557
And how do I know you don't work for Upton Tea?

Many grocery stores here in Sweden have this tea. Anyone know if it's good?

I want to try to order some good tea. This store is in my city. Anyone know if any of their teas are good? What in their assortment do you recommend I order?
www.theteacentre.se

>>17098593
It's probably okay but not amazing. If it's not too expensive i would probably suggest trying it and seeing what you think of it.

Near me there's a store that sells groceries from the whole world. They have a whole aisle with tea. One of the teas I saw there is pic related. Anyone knows if it's good?

>>17098603
Their green tea is kind of old, i would like it to be from 2020
Their prices arent bad, especially for sweeden
Here are a few suggestions
Luckily this type of white tea is supposed to age a bit
https://www.theteacentre.se/product/bai-mu-dan/
Same with these oolongs
https://www.theteacentre.se/product/dung-ti-roasted-oolong/
https://www.theteacentre.se/product/da-hong-pao-oolong/
https://www.theteacentre.se/product/fancy-oolong/
As far as black teas i would read the descriptions and pick some that sound good to you
And indian assam and a Chinese black tea would both be good choices.

>>17098643
>Their prices arent bad, especially for sweeden
You want me to think you know about prices in Sweden when you can't even spell Sweden?

>>17098623
If you like pure Ceylon tea, it’s basically a reliable standard.
Daily drinker for a ton of Arabs.
I have a box of the bagged version.

>>17098623
It's probably nothing fancy, maybe slightly nicer than average black tea bags, it's probably fairly small broken pieces of leaves
International markets can be pretty fun, look for sea dyke brand oolongs in small rectangular boxes.
Those are usually okay as long as they are proced around $10 a box, they have many different boxes, this is a pretty common one

>>17098651
I may be retarded, but i do know that 10¢ to 15¢ per gram is fairly reasonable for a frozen country in the middle of nowhere where everything is expensive.

I was at Oolong Tea House in Stockholm twice. Don't remember exactly what I ordered. First time was some "cheese tea", I think it was oolong tea, served cold in a plastic takeaway cup, was ok. Second time was matcha latte, also served cold in a shitty takeaway cup. Both were interesting but didn't blow me away. I don't know why it's so fucking expensive or why they sometimes have a long fucking line of customers, not now when it's cold though.

>>17098687
Seems like some weird city shit. Don't write off oolong cause their tea was crappy

>>17098700
I suspect it's trendy to buy bubble tea and perhaps a bunch of weaboos or some shit that line up there, haven't seen many other places that have bubble tea here.

>>17098512
oh this actually kind of works, thanks

What's the god of mouthfeel? Some kind of oolong? Green?

>>17098761
my dick
just kidding
i'm thinking silver needle

thoughts on yerba mate?

>>17098839
i like it

>>17095239
>6-8g per 100ml
thanks, i usually go by meileaf's guides and they seem to do 3.5g/100ml for whites

>>17098761
ripes can be thick and silky, other than that something with bud hairs like silver needle

>>17097813
That's the one. It's probably a lot more expensive now than when I bought it, knowing Scott, but it's a very good tea.

>>17098839
Good stuff, and damn cheap too. Rosamonte is my favorite brand so far, but there's nowhere near as much variety as in tea or coffee.