/ck/ - Food & Cooking

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>>17056440

>>17056447
This picture scream “little dick syndrome”

>>17056452
It screams not enough beer.

Has anyone else ever seen Russians eat plain pasta with no sauce or anything, just plain? I've seen it in Russian movies and I've seen Russians do it on the internet. And not in a joking way, they were genuinely enjoying plain spaghetti. I get that it's meant to be a low-class poverty, but how common is it?

>>17056452
Mmm... I think it's just you relating everything you see to male genitalia.

>>17056447
where is carbs

>>17056452
Screams “we sided with the wrong side”

>>17056442

Russian diet, some scarcity and heavy on holyday foods like Baikal Omul (fish in pic) You can't get better fish than this.

>>17056484
It’s quite common. Firstly in Russia it is called "makarony" (from ital. maccheroni), regardless of size, type, shape, although some forms have their own (often Russian) names, this is all considered makaronY. For russian ear "pasta" is toothpaste or tomato paste. Only people who know European cuisine or have been in Europe use the word pasta. Or in a restaurant.
Usually it was eaten without any sauce, boiled in water (no aldente, cooked for a long time), put on a plate and ate. I think most people (in USSR) had little idea of what "sauce" is. I myself quite often eat makarony without any sauce or add a little soy sauce, ketchup or tomato paste. I tried pesto once and don't want it anymore.
When I began to travel to Egypt, they often cook in hotels (where there are many Italians) pasta with tomato sauce in a frying pan. I don’t like it, I don’t like a lot of tomatoes, but maybe it’s about the cooks.
Some craftsmen also eat boiled makarony with bread. This is a high level of Russianism.

>>17056569
>no mention of the fact they add butter
>no mention of makaroni po-flotski
You're probably not even Russian

>>17056569
Moj narod, i love liver pate on bread, i eat ajvar on everything, oh fuck i love paprika. Also pickled onions mmmm, and saurkraut is one of the few things the fascisti did right. Im serbian but it isnt related to thread, fuck im high right now

>>17056484
One of the princes of Soviet canteens: "makarony po-flotsky" (navy-style pasta / fleet's pasta ?). First, minced meat with onions is fried in oil, then pasta is added there and mixed well. No sauce is used. It is considered tasty and satisfying.

>>17056484
I've seen them eat pasta with white sugar poured on top.

>>17056617
>meat dust instead of chunks

>>17056440
>Post Russian diet sadness
"Cooking with Svetlana"

>>17056569
really old American's called all pasta "macaroni" My grandfather was one.

>>17056520
>Baikal Omul
I've heard legends about "baikalsky omul s dushkom (with odor
)" that is, omul which the Siberians gave the opportunity to rot (imaginethesmell) a little. This keeps me from visiting Baikal.
>>17056587
Probably, somehow I do not like to put butter in there. So it didn't occur to me.
>no mention of makaroni po-flotski
This is a separate topic! Very important.
>You're probably not even Russian
Tebya poslat' ili sam dorogu naidyosh?
>>17056606
>Im serbian but it isnt related to thread
Кaкo мoжe бити нeвaжнo?

>>17056651
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRGpCAYGkEI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YBBgN92gCak
This russian youtube cook also makes me really sad....

>>17056654
A lot of East Coast "Italians" still do. I would too if I didn't know that everyone would look at me like a retard.

There is also a myth that 7.62mm pasta was produced in the USSR, since pasta factories during the Third World War should have immediately switched to the production of ammunition. There is the same legend about cigarettes.
This is due to the fact that Soviet civilian factories often had a dual purpose and had to be immediately ready for the release of military products (or served the army secretly from imperialist spies). 7mm pasta was indeed the standard (GOST*), but this is a myth, albeit a very common one.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOST
In the USSR, cooking was also administratively regulated by the state, so strict technical standards were issued for food, such as "Donut in accordance with GOST" - this is an approved recipe. Personally by Stalin. Just kidding, I don’t know.

>>17056452
>thinking about cocks
nigga yu gay

>>17056447
Cringe photo. This guy probably belongs to several monthly subscriptions for facial hair grooming, EDC puzzles, Lego and Funko Pops.

>>17056626
I vaguely remember some shit like that from my childhood.

>>17056766
Cringe photo. This guy probably belongs to several minority groups for skinning the undead, receiving monthly Rasputin fan club periodicals, Legs and Femur Pops.

>>17056785
>7.62mm pasta
lol never heard this one before.
It's amazing what sort of complete bullshit rumors just spread like wildfire. I have a cousin and an uncle who were both special forces and totally believed the myth that and I quote "russian ammo is 1 caliber bigger so they can use our ammo but we can't use theirs" so the russians had a "51 caliber" and a bigger "7.62" for backwards compatibility.
It's fun to theorize just how these myths got started, for this particular example I believe it may have started off rather innocently amongst ordinance officers noticing the slightly different projectile size 0.312" instead of 0.308" and then this info somehow filtered out to grunts who took this to mean the cartridges as a whole were one way interchangeable.
I wonder if any of them ever managed to hurt themselves trying to chamber a 12.7x108 in a 12.7x99?

>>17056785
I haven't heard this one before either, and I somehow doubt that cig production would go down much during a war, but this was absolutely something that they planned for when designing tractors and tractor factories leading up to WW2.
Not sure who's idea it was but the guy who actually made it happen was this American, Albert Kahn. Really interesting guy, basically built detroit by himself.

>>17056484
I've been eating plain pasta with butter or olive oil for most of my life. I love the taste, just has to be somewhat decent quality pasta

>>17056447
hey I've got an 1895 Nagant revolver just like that. my grandpa got it off a dead Nazi who must have gotten it off a dead Ruskie. Could have also been used in both WWI and the Russian Revolution for alls I know. one thing is for certain, it was only ever owned by hungry people

>>17056617
Came here to post this, it's surprisingly pretty good.

Another absolutely essential category of food is layered salads, chief of them all is selyodka pod shuboi. I used to feel a bit ashamed of what Russian cuisine is when I was younger because it felt unsophisticated and low class but now I'm a full time shill for holodets.

>>17056885
There was a cold war, people went to work at their plant and constantly saw military or KGB officers in civilian clothes who went to the director of the plant. All large enterprises were monitored by these structures. So the workers came up with all sorts of theories.
I don't know much about cartridges, but I've seen some experiments on YouTube with the wrong calibers. The main thing is not to hold a weapon in your hands, it sometimes explodes.
Back in the 19th century, there was a myth that Russia was using its railroad gauge to slow down an invasion from Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_ft_and_1520_mm_gauge_railways
Allegedly, Nicholas I, being a military engineer, decided that the railways would become a method of invasion. (In Crimea, this did not help him).
>>17058150
I heard something about him.
It reminded me. In the 1920s and 1930s, the USSR had gigantic plans for the general reconstruction of life, the destruction of the "bourgeois" way of life of the townspeople. Special experimental houses were built (no, not barracks or communal apartments) with separate bedrooms, but common rooms, that is, it was assumed that people would only sleep separately, and the rest of the time they would be in the company. There were no kitchens. There were projects to create giant "kitchen factories" that would accumulate all the nutritional needs of communist mankind, from a banquet hall to regular meals. The plan was to eliminate the need for self-preparation and self-absorption of food altogether. The foresight of this can be read in Zamyatin's "We". PR - the first experimental kitchen factory.
Preparations for war and Stalin's social conservatism (he still grew up in patriarchal Georgia with their endless feasts) put an end to these plans.

>>17058263
But Stalin appointed Anastas Mikoyan, the legendary political long-liver, to resolve the issue of feeding the Soviet people. Well, that part of it that had to be fed from the point of view of the Government. And his brother Artyom Mikoyan took up the production of aircraft, hence the Mikoyan & Gurevich design bureau, "MiG".
In 1936 Mikoyan (Anastas) went to the USA to learn from the food industry. He was especially interested in how the food for millions of workers in Detroit and other industrial giants in the United States was organized.
According to his plan, factories for the production of food products began to be created in the USSR. So mayonnaise, sausage, factory pilmenis, in short, all the princes and princesses of Soviet cuisine, small and great, were conceived by Mikoyan in a dirty coition with American imperialism. At first, burgers also seemed very promising, so the USSR could well become Burgerland. But there was some kind of problem (I forgot) and the burgers became a counter-revolutionary bastard.
I happened to work (in an office, not in production) at the Margarine Plant in Moscow, where they produced margarine and confectionery fats, built by Mikoyan before the war. It was then bought by the Dutch - Unilever, now it is closed, it became very difficult to transport trucks with oil to Moscow.

>>17056659
His Plov recipe looks good. I might try that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbdQzjaevXQ&list=PLbS0HkS8Xsorrdr3pPk4lP80tUAzfyxP1&index=7

>>17056626
My gran used to do that. Though she sometimes added some ground walnuts.
Also pasta with a big dollop of homemade jam.

>>17056864
Kek

>>17058263
Those commies tried to abolish cooking for the ordinary man? How detestable. And ironic.

>>17056626
No you're thinking of funnel cake sweetie

>>17056864
Fuck I kek'd

>>17058162
>one thing is for certain, it was only ever owned by hungry people
That was way funnier than it should have been

>>17058206
incredibly based

>>17056626
I know I'm a fat American and everyone hates american cuisine, but this is just depressing

>>17058778
No I'm thinking of this

>>17056440
condensed milk straight from can. excellent dessert.

>>17056569
>bare macaroni with bread
that's spartan to say the least

>>17058873
Haven't heard anybody do that here and it sounds really fucking gross.

>>17056462
That's vodka.

>>17056626
It's called Milk Soup. Basically you add milk to hot pasta and top it with loads of sugar. Grew up on that in Romania in the early 70s

Workers unite and all dine from the table of prosperity.

>>17056484
>tfw Russian
>eating spaghetti with just olive oil for years now
I-is this weird? No-one ever told me, first time I hear this.

>>17056766
can i get a quick rundown?

>>17059120
Merican here, I don't think so. I thought plain pasta was weird but if there's actually oil involved we eat that here as well often enough. Usually we'll throw veg in too though.

>>17059102
That's another recipe but it's also interesting. This recipe is just noodles with butter and sugar on top, it was in many communist countries though, not just Russia.

>>17056617
what the fuck is wrong with slavs

>>17059120
Yeah that's weird.

Add some vegetables at least, rusbro.

>>17059279
here in croatia we mixed pasta sugar and cottage cheese, its surprisingly good

>>17058294
>there was some kind of problem (I forgot)
I think the problem is that you need actual meat for a burger while you can fill pilmenis with sawdust without changing the flavor.

>>17059693
Yes, they lacked the ability for synthetic meat. However, I checked.
Mikoyan nevertheless bought production lines in America. And in large cities in 1938, meat processing plants began to produce burgers. Stalls were created where these burgers were heated in gas stoves and sold to the public. We didn't buy the equipment for the burger buns, so we used a different bread. Instead of Coca-Cola, they served lemonade. Instead of a "burger," they called it "Hot Moscow Cutlet" - these people were not very good at marketing. Then the War began and we forgot about burgers.
However, a cutlet with black bread and sour cream is a legitimate inhabitant of Soviet catering outlets.
PR - People's Commissariat of Food Industry of the USSR, Department of Meat Products: "Hot Moscow cutlets with a bun", 50 kopecks.

>>17059877
forgot the picture

>>17059882
>>17059877
Pragmatism inevitably trumps over ideology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcxQBkdughc

>>17059120
I'm an Amerishart and I eat just pasta with oil or butter all the time. It's good.

is this any good? Always been curious

>>17059120
that's weird dude.
it's like a sad commie version of aglio e olio, like y'all didn't have any garlic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_aglio_e_olio

What does kvass tastes like? It's not sold around these part, buy rye bread is.

>>17059070
I've done it, it's actually pretty good with butter.

t. American

>>17058745
The army, prison, monastery, some sects, even kibbutzim use the same principle.
The Soviet man was more or less under control when he was at school, at work, at a meeting, in a hobby club, and so on. But when he climbed into his narrow, pitiful kitchen and began to cook something there, eat, and then talk - their exemplary Soviet citizen, he could turn into an outspoken dissident, and the state could not even see it. And if friends come to him? After all, it was not forbidden to visit us and talk about something there. "Kitchen conversations" - in Russian it is a synonym for anti-government agitation. If you listen to the old Soviet dissidents, half of the stories there will begin with "we sat in Name's kitchen and talked, and then ...".
So when a person can choose what and how to cook, who to eat and what to talk to during and after - he is already half out of control.

>>17059958
Nowadays 95% of mass-market brands are way too sweet. Used to be drier and more sour back in the day, when it was sold out of a small tanker-trailer.

>>17059120
I like it with just butter, it's one of my comfort food.

>>17059945
It used to be pretty good, before. You could boil a pot of potatoes, shake out the canned Tushyonka, crush a little it a little, move it and let it stand. The supper is ready.
Now it is a tasteless mixture of veins, fat and substances of unknown origin. I haven't bought it for a long time.

>>17059958
Kvass can be very different. Closer to a very, very light beer without hop bitterness. It seems in Germany before (well, in the 18th century) such a very light beer (only not from barley but from wheat or rye) was brewed, which was drunk during meals without alcoholic intoxication. So even children could drink.
Commercially made kvass is usually added with roasted malt concentrate, so it is darker with a malt flavor. Homemade kvass is usually more sour and lighter in color.
Usually made from rye bread, the old recipe is made from rye flour, there are lovers also made from white wheat bread. This is unorthodox, but quite possible. There is added honey, raisins for the appearance of bubbles. Lots of recipes.

>>17059157
people are starving in the su
so they resort to cannibalism
theres this lenin quote, look it up

>>17059958
>What does kvass tastes like?
Store-bought "kvas" is mostly sugary water.
Real kvas is a bit sour, with rich but not overpowering flavor.

It should look something like this. If kvas has sediment it's good.