/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Olive Garden is a good restaurant and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

>>17054790
>sends their chefs to Italy for months of training

No, they don't.

>>17054790
Since when do you have to go to Italy to learn how to run a microwave

>>17054895
Hi newfriend, I think you should change your name? most of us just stick to Anonymous

>>17054922
Didnt realize that was still there. Thanks for letting me know

>>17054790
If you really think that an international chain is sending chefs to Italy, to learn authentic Italian cooking methods, then you're just a gullible fool and should get off the Internet and go back to eating your chili mac.

>>17054922
>Announces a report for announcing a sage

>>17054790
Sends half a dozen corporate food lab ""chefs"" on an Italian vacation so they can tell the 50 or so other corporate food lab ""chefs"" working under then how they can make their boil-in-bag sauces "close enough."

>>17054836
>>17054973
>they don't really send their chefs to Italy for 11 weeks
Yes they do

>>17055037
>still posting cnn
>in 2020 + 1
Wew

>>17055037
most Olive Garden dishes are not prepared at the individual restaurants. they come out of a bag
so maybe some of the "chefs" working the industrial food processing facilities that make the frozen packaged food that is shipped to most chain restaurants, including Olive Garden, get a visit

>>17055047
the article is from 2010 dipshit

>>17055051
what exactly is wrong with that? it's called sous vide and it's modern cuisine and it comes out indistinguishable from some mexican cooking your italian food from scratch.

I'm a chef at Brio and got sent to Orlando for 6 weeks of training

It was mostly learning administrative and paperwork shit.

Olive Garden has the best pasta fagioli. The salad is terrible though.

>>17054922
Since when is announcing sage forbidden?

I havent gone to Olive Garden since they got rid of the Braised Beef and Tortellini Marsala. I wont go back until its on the menu again.

I do buy their salad dressing at the grocery store.

Olive Garden is the only big chain I've eaten at that was legitimately like, BAD, people always shit all over Applebees but if you just order steak and fries or something it's not going to completely suck it'll just be overpriced. Olive Garden has the balls to serve you unsalted, microwaved pasta and jarred sauce on a fancy plate with white tablecloths it's honestly pissing me off a little thinking about it

>>17055144
since forever but the mods never cared that much about that rule

>>17055159
if you go to a big chain restaurant expecting good food, you get what you deserve.

>>17055092
>sous vide
enjoy your xenoestrogens

>>17054790
I was a chef there for three years back in 2015, never once they sent me to Italy. Which is good, cause I hate flying.

>>17055051
>most Olive Garden dishes are not prepared at the individual restaurants. they come out of a bag
This is not true.

Olive Garden sauces are prepared from scratch in house every day. The pasta is dried pasta that is cooked in the morning and portioned and refrigerated. It is blanched to heat before serving. Soups are made from scratch every day (the gnocchi put in the soup come frozen in a bag). Lasagna is made fresh everyday. Dishes are prepared to order, not poured out of a bag an microwaved. Breadsticks come frozen and are baked.

Why do people feel the need to lie about chain restaurants and claim they serve microwaved TV dinners or something?

>>17055159
>Olive Garden has the balls to serve you unsalted, microwaved pasta and jarred sauce on a fancy plate with white tablecloths it's honestly pissing me off a little thinking about it
You are either trolling or completely ignorant

>>17055185
You were cook not a chef

>>17055435
>The pasta is dried pasta that is cooked in the morning and portioned and refrigerated. It is blanched to heat before serving
Disgusting.

>Dishes are prepared to order
>The pasta is dried pasta that is cooked in the morning and portioned and refrigerated. It is blanched to heat before serving.
>Dishes are prepared to order

Kek

>>17055089
>referencing a past year
>in the current year
w e w

>>17055435
Helps them feel good about being too poor to even afford chain restaurants

>>17055092
Retrieving pre-made food from a plastic bag that's been shipped in a freezer truck across state lines is not sous vide, you absolute retard.

>>17055435
I'm curious. What do you tell people when they ask you what you do for money?
Digital marketing?
also
>meats are frozen
>desserts are frozen
>most shit is frozen in all quick serve restaurants

>>17055473
Do you realize how long the ticket times would be if they cooked the pasta to order? It’s an effective method of reheating that results in pretty good pasta.

As far as dried versus fresh, pasta would be better, sure, but that would increase the cost a lot because it’s more labor intensive. If you want fresh pasta (which is going to be made in the morning too, they don’t wait to make the dough until you order), you’ll have to pay for a more expensive restaurant.

And for “prepared to order,” do you want the animal slaughtered and the grain pick and milled only after your order? Or are you a reasonable person who does tons of food preparation in advance and has things like peanut butter or cooked and sliced lunch meat and cheese and sliced loaves of bread in your home.

>>17055508
I’m a normal person who likes Olive Garden and hates lies.

I never said their desserts don’t come frozen. And IDK what you think a “quick serve” restaurant is but I wouldn’t consider any table service restaurant “quick serve.” Yeah lots of things are frozen in lots of restaurants. I eat stuff that has been frozen at home. It doesn’t mean it’s bad. Freezing raw meat and then thawing it and cooking it often doesn’t result in a loss in quality. Almost all seafood is.

These conversations always framed as if Olive Garden has a bagged TV dinner it microwaves and dumps on your plate. That’s not the case. They grill raw protein to order and make sauces from scratch and blanch pasta that was cooked that day. They have a real kitchen that does real cooking.

>>17055510
>reheating
>pretty good pasta
Kek no. Who the fuck wants reheated pasta cooked 12 hours ago?

Prepared for order doesn’t imply reheated frozen garlic bread, microwaved pasta and the like. If you like Olive Garden that’s fine but don’t pretend this is the sign of quality because it obviously is not.

>>17055480
Seriously what a fucking moron kek

>nooooo I can read CNN today if the articles are old

Kek what a retard. I bet he still believes in riding with Biden.

>bitches don't know about two-stage pasta cooking

>>17055528
quite literally 90% of olive garden meals are the same stouffers frozen dinner packages with the branding removed, they come in large trucks once a week. That's facts on a stack no Kapp.

>>17055538
Please return to reddit and take your spacing with you

>>17055510
>Do you realize how long the ticket times would be if they cooked the pasta to order?
Ten minutes? How fucking fast do people expect their food to come out at an Olive Garden?

>>17055437
Well, I didn't go back to see if it'd be shit a second time. I know what unsalted pasta and jarred alfredo sauce taste like. Microwaved I admittedly cannot prove but I think it's a fair guess. Obviously I only ate there because I was with family members and they picked it.

>>17055535
The Olive Garden near me is open from 11AM-10PM. Prep takes place in the morning, so 12 hours is a theoretical maximum. They may cook more pasta in the afternoon between lunch and dinner.

They don’t microwave their pasta. They blanch it in boiling water.
>>17055548
>quite literally 90% of olive garden meals are the same stouffers frozen dinner packages with the branding removed, they come in large trucks once a week. That's facts on a stack no Kapp.
This is a lie. They use Barilla dried pasta and made from scratch sauces (made at the restaurant). The most popular meals are things like Spaghetti and Meatballs and Fettuccine Alfredo. Which do not come frozen a la Stouffer’s Lasagna. And the Lasagna is made fresh daily too

>>17055579
12 minutes is the industry standard ticket time for a dinner entree.
>>17055616
You obviously don’t because the alfredo sauce is made from scratch daily and restaurants heavily salt their food. If you think Olive Garden is unsalted you consume way too much sodium.

>>17055644
https://www.businessinsider.com/olive-garden-still-wont-salt-pasta-2016-4

>>17055635
>This is a lie.
Are you calling me a FUCKING LIAR?
My old housemates friend worked for Olive Garden in the 90's and I know what I'm talking about so maybe to a little bit of research before you start astroturfing a thread with fake news El Trumpo.
It's likely they have a backdoor deal with stouffers to not sell the meatballs to the public.

Do some research before you start calling out FACTS.

0 relevant search results in Italian, on Google. Apart from Olive Garden being a fake, fraudulent restaurant chain.

If they send their chefs here it's to sunbathe and get drunk, definitely not to work.

>>17054790
>>17055092
>>17055435


Lets be real for a second, ok?

Pasta. What is pasta? Its a dough made from flour, egg, a bit of oil, some salt. Kneaded well, shaped and boiled fresh.
Its processed food cousin is extruded on a factory, then flash-dried for convenience in home kitchens..

Now you take that flash-dried convenience pasta product, then boil it.. then let it sit.. some five hours.. then reheat it by cooking it again..

I mean, what the fuck.

Its the most basic basic basic kind of food. Then you take the easy route, and instead of making it in-house, you.. Buy shelf-stable dried machine processed stuff for convenience.. Then you.. Try to make a system that adds another layer of convenience..

How is that not LAZY?

How is that not extremely.. I dont even have the words for it.

I mean, imagine taking something so easy to make.. Something so simple.. Then opting for the convenience-food route.. THEN YOU ADULTERATE EVEN THAT FOOD PRODUCT EVEN MORE.

I CANT EVEN!

>>17055694
>capitalizing random words
>Trump autism out of nowhere
>dude i heard it from a friend of a friend it's true..!!
You need to go back.

>>17055644
The sauce had the gritty, overcooked texture, and thick consistancy I associate with jarred alfredo. If it is scratch made it still isn't very good, although not so bad I would bother writing this many posts about it. The unsalted pasta though, that happened. I count calories, read labels, and keep a rough tally of everything I eat and I eat a reasonable amount of salt for the amount of calories I eat. My mother was a terrible cook and never salted pasta, I grew up eating that shit and I know how it tastes. Olive Garden was the one time in my life since reaching adulthood I did not finish a plate at a resteraunt.

>>17055741
yeah ok sweatie i need to go back, say hi to daddy Trump for me

>>17055500
that's exactly what sous vide is my child.

>>17055716
how do you imagine higher end restaurants cook their pasta? it's all parcooked before service.

>>17055912
I think it depends if they use pasta made from scratch in house or dried pasta. If you make pasta in house from scratch it cooks basically as fast as reheating cooked dried pasta

>>17055912
it depends what kind of shit restaurant you go.
Pasta is cooked right before servings while finishinig to cook the sauce (depending on the dish)

Fresh pasta cooks in 2/3 minutes, dried pasta in 10/12 minutes.
> put pasta in the boiling water
> finish cooking the sauce
> put the pasta in the sauce

in less than 20 minutes you can serve a freshly made pasta if you already have boiling water

>>17055037
That's not what that place is for. It's for developing recipes, and they also send managers there to party on the company dime.
If you seriously think they're sending all their chefs there to train you're 100% fucking retarded.

>>17054790
Because its a fucking regular restaurant. Who the fuck cares. I go their if Im itching for some semi-italian food. I dont care if its a 5 star or 1 star because IM FUCKIN HUNGRY. I dont have to respect anything about the place, just eat, pay, and leave.
Goddamn OP you fucking KEK, WHO CARES.

>>17056052
have you ever worked in a restaurant serving pasta?

>>17055037
They dont send anyone there. Students in Italy have the option if they're in College. You dumb fucking retard smoothbrain. Its just another institute.

>>17056107
Lmao this

>>17056109
yes. depending on the country, even in medium class restaurant pasta is cooked at serving. There's no real excuse to do otherwise, unless you are a long-ass-chinese-like shit menu and you care at least a little bit about the food you serve

>>17056125
Parcooked pasta is the norm not some rare cheap shortcut and it turns out fine.

>>17056139
It is the norm in shit restaurant in shit country. cooking dried pasta requires 7/12 minutes depending on the pasta shape, and the last 2 minutes are sauted in the sauce you are heating up.

You don't cook one portion of pasta at the time retard.
Do you ever worked in a non-black restaurant that serves pasta?

> it turns out fine
It doesn't. You can spot esily a pre cooked pasta, unless you serve it overcookes as shit.
Rice on the other hand is more forgivable for parcooking it, and requires more time to make

>>17056052
20 minutes is an insane ticket time. You don’t want to spend 12 minutes just cooked dried pasta. Parcooked pasta is the way to go

>>17056164
> 20 minutes is an insane ticket time
more like 15min from request to serve if you are well trained. And 20 minutes is perfectly acceptable in a restaurant you fucking fast food larper.
You also take into account serving drinks during time and that couple of guy of the table that order some anti-pasto.

from the client perspective they "wait" 10 minutes out of 20, it's more than acceptable in a restaurant you clown

>>17056157
settle down you larping faggot.

>>17056186
keep going in shit restaurant and think it is the norm you cretin

>>17056194
i would bet my left testicle you have never worked a station making pasta you lying shrimpdick faggot LOL

>>17056197
I did
> you lying shrimpdick faggot LOL
Stop daydreaming about my dick and focus on the food you fruit

>>17056204
you didn't. 20 minutes to make pasta would get you laughed out of a kitchen you lying faggot LOL

Olive garden is good for the soup salad and breadstick lunch. That's it.

>>17056206
> 20 minutes to make pasta would get you laughed out of a kitchen
I get out of the restaurant laughing if they serve me parcooked pasta in less than 15 minutes you burger boy

>>17056092
Used to be a manager at olive garden and can confirm this is pretty much true. They flew about 20 of us out there for a week and paid for almost everything except the drugs and hookers

>>17056197
Why are you SO salty about the fact that good restaurants make pasta a la minute?

>>17056273
i'm not salty about that at all LOL...i'm saying it's obvious you're a lying faggot with no experience

>>17056186
IT'S NOT LARPING IF IT'S ON THE INTERNET IT'S JUST RPING

>>17056281
I'm not that guy, I just know plenty of restaurants cook pasta fresh and I find it weird that you're so in denial about this.

>>17056281
I'm not that guy you mongoloid. Still you should stop embarassing youself because you don't know how good restarants work you cooklet

>>17056299
I beg to differ

People also said Dominos makes bad pizzas but i tasted them and they are good

>>17056313
LOL why would you keep lying? anyone who has worked in a restaurant knows you're completely full of shit you dumb faggot

>>17056482
This is such a weird hill to die on anon.

>>17056523
LOL exactly you dumb faggot. why would you larp about how you know how pasta is cooked in a restaurant?

>>17056529
just take the L, bro

>>17056529
>LOL >LOL >LOL
Why are you seething so hard about pasta?

>>17056529
you sound like a virgin and you are also wrong

LOL no. i can't tell if it's three faggots seething or one dipshit sperging out. either way just shut your cocksucking mouth you obviously know jack shit about how pasta is prepared in a restaurant LOL

>>17056743
We are at least 2, but you have to also count people reading your posts and laugh without posting

you clearly never worked in a above-shit restaurant if you think all pasta is parcooked (lol) or that 20 minutes for serving is too much (average serving time in restaurand is 12-23 minutes)

>>17054790
LOL MONTHS OF TRAINING TO OPEN A FROZEN BAG OF MEAT

For me, it's the local Olive Garden. Packed into the family car with dad driving and mom resting in the passenger seat. The kids anxiously kicking around the back. There is a powerful bonding on the way to that Italian eatery. The whole family uniting in a singular quest. Tonight we dine. Pulling into the enormous parking lot, the atmosphere begs to be absorbed. A Macy's mall in the background, and a Red Lobster across the street. All of this is of course framed by the beacon that is the Olive Garden restaurant itself. A community staple in fine dining. A plump line has already begun winding out the door, groups of 5 each huddled around their remote buzzer. Occasionally a cry will go out as a vibration comes from the electronic device. A scream of joy. That family has been chosen. They cry tears of gratitude as a virginal waitress brings them swiftly into the eatery. Passing only the finest arts from the Mediterranean. Frescos and bottles of wine from local vineyards. Sinatra sings softly over the built in speakers. Large tables enjoying only the most quality pastas and salads. Taking a seat, a calm washes over everyone in the group. This is just so right. So perfectly correct. It's as if they had been transported to Naples as they pushed their chairs up to the table. Orgasmic.

People obviously didn't read the article
https://www.eater.com/2011/4/11/6687399/olive-garden-actually-has-a-tuscan-cooking-school-kind-of

>They would let the Olive Garden come and stay in all the rooms (small place-maybe 20 rooms) and they would use the restaurant (closed to the public-again off season) as a classroom for maybe an hour here or there and talk about spices or fresh produce for a minute before going site seeing all day."

>On his interactions with the "chef": "The only time we saw the "chef" was when she made a bolognese sauce while taking pictures with each of us to send to our local newspapers."

> On how much he got out of it: "There wasn't much learning involved. Still though, it was a free trip to Italy."

And finally, but not the least funny

> On the most valuable thing he learned in Italy: "Alfredo sauce is just butter with Parmesan cheese. The addition of heavy cream was made in the good old USA.

It's pretty much all PR

>>17056939
Incredibly based. Are you referring to the brea location by any chance?

>>17056404
Well a while ago Domino’s pizza cratered its quality to save money and destroyed its reputation. But they have done a good job of fixing their recipe and I think it’s pretty decent pizza now and there’s a lot of people who agree

>>17056889
LOL

>>17054790

anyone who has eaten at Olive Garden more than once should be killed.

>>17056939

But for real what type of person eats at Olive Garden? The poor? The stupid?

>>17056939
This. Also their Peach Bellini is the best cocktail I've ever had.

>>17057313
i've had sex after olive garden dinner dates more than i can remember so call me poor and stupid i guess

>>17054790
I thought the whole "culinary school" they featured in commercials had been proven fake and that it's nothing more than a studio in LA.

>>17054790
>months
Yes. Months.
To learn to boil water and pour sauce from tubs.

>>17057564
I’ve had to say this multiple times but I guess I have to say it one more time. All the sauces are made from scratch every morning.

>>17057427

Ok. You’re poor and stupid. Does having sex mean you’re immune to being poor and stupid? Poor and stupid people fuck constantly.

No but for real, why the fuck would you choose to eat there? Are you in a rural area or something? Like why would you take a woman to a place that’s worse than literally any other Italian restaurant?

>>17057427
If you can't remember them all you're definitely stupid.

>>17057898
>why would you take a woman to a place that’s worse than literally any other Italian restauran
because its good? you reddit faggots need to go back and get your head out of your ass

>>17055435
> pasta that is cooked in the morning and portioned and refrigerated. It is blanched to heat before serving

>gnocchi put in the soup

pig disgusting

>>17055616
>I know what unsalted pasta and jarred alfredo sauce taste like.
>I know what unsalted pasta tastes like
You wouldn't be able to tell the difference and you know it.

>>17055435
>reboiling old cooked pasta
that's just foul

>>17058840

>>17058840
I am the Olive Garden “shill” and believe me I can taste the difference between jarred alfredo and fresh.

>>17058840
unsalted pasta is pretty easy to spot I think the majority of humans can.

I used to work to there. It's iight

>>17058016

>Olive Garden is good
How old are you?

>>17054790
>olive garden
>the logo has grapes on it
fuck you

>>17058840
if you can't, please never visit this board again

>>17055037
>nowhere in the article does it say "olive garden sends all their chefs to italy"
>cnn
Grats on being retarded.

>>17055089
>>17055538
CNN has been manipulating the news for a very long time. Don't be so naive.

>>17056251
That's bullshit but I believe it

>>17055037
No, they don’t. But they did have a marketing campaign that implied such but that was over a fucking decade ago, retard.

The breadsticks aren’t good.

>>17055896
>that's exactly what sous vide is my child
No it’s not. I don’t know why you think trucks have anything to do with sous vide. That’s just egregiously ignorant.

>>17055812
The irony of living rent free in the head of someone who can’t pay rent.

>>17060237
What's so bad about that? They are actually standing in the water, he just makes it look a bit deeper.

>>17056125
>even in medium class restaurant pasta is cooked at serving
Sorry that’s not even remotely true. And there is a reason, it’s called profits. The reason every single restaurant ever, exists.

>>17060244
It's true. My uncle was a manager at olive garden in the early 00s and would tell me the same thing. It was basically a vacation with a few hours of talking about new recipes

>>17054798
FPBP. I agree. I love olive garden

>>17054790
Italian food isn’t even real food

>>17056939
I laughed hardest at "virginal waitress".

>>17055007
Is this really how they prepare sauces?

>>17054790
Why would you need to go to fucking italy to learn how to cook fast food?

Sounds like a marketing gimmick to convince boomer and zoomer retards that their restaurant is good. Going to Italy for a few weeks won't make we a chef good or authentic.

>>17062005
> gimmick to convince
Then explain why The Olive Garden is the best Italian Restaurant in North America?

>>17055579
>How fucking fast do people expect their food to come out at an Olive Garden?
you forget their clientele is baby boomers that think anything longer than 10 minutes is too long and will demand refunds at the 15 minute mark

>>17062157
Great marketing and acceptable food. Olive Garden is not a good Italian restaurant by any measure though.

>>17062157
It's not even the best Italian place in the flyoverest flyoverland.

>>17055435
Do they still use an actual grill or have they switched to one of these atrocities?

Meant >>17062561 for >>17059545

>>17054922
He's actually such an oldfag he didn't know about this bullshit tacked on rule.

is this one of those things where they send you to """italy""" but it's really just a building somewhere within their borders so they can say "we totally train our chefs in LE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN"

>>17055144
2013
>>17055162
No.

>>17056178
sure if you have a dedicated pasta station, no problem. If your running a pizza store you par cook it. And it actually taste better par cooked shocked and oiled the recooked then some to order pastas, depending on the sauce. Oh yeah and suck my ass, if you go deep you might be able to get the rest of my S&MB dinner! Pasta is pasta and it always taste like shit when you make it for yourself!

>>17054790
They don't have chefs at places like olive garden or applebees. They have minimum wage types that dump stuff from cisco bags then reheat it.

>>17054922

>>17054790
>Literally sends their chefs to Italy
when they're there, are they family?

>>17062561
>How can you wear that jacket, when there's no gastronomy in what you're doing?
>How can you call yourself a chef, cooking a steak in a conveyor oven?
>Take that fucking jacket off now, you haven't earned it
>do NOT test me

>>17055500
>muh state lines

Capatcha: KYS SG

Kill Yourself, Super Gay.

>>17055694
>starts loosing an argument about fucking food prep
>incoherently brings Trump into it

RENT FREE

Here, picrel

SEETHE

>>17056482
>>17056523
>>17056529

im visiting from /pol/ and /x/....i thought i couldnt find a more autistic board....here i am.

>>17059978
olives are just fermented grapes dumbass

>>17055435
Made me realize, frozen components are fresh, and made fresh plate,..

Holy shit,this is why murricans vote for a billionaire wrestler the for a senile pedophile.

>>17055912
My friend work at some relatively fancy Italian place owned by an authentic Italian douche from Napoli,Antonino's is the name,and every god-damned plate is made from Barilla™ pre cocked pasta then reheated in boiling broth,but each hour the pasta is rotated by new one in order of "freshness",Never frozen!
Sauce is made with a base of tomato made each morning then seasoned at the moment,also white sauces are made at the moment.
The place it's a bit pricey,tastes good but not awesome, but,never frozen.

Another nice place two miles from my home is equally priced but had two girls making non stop fresh pasta with the possibility of adding the veggie of your choice, arugula is my favorite.

Olive garden sounds like some overrated IHOP, chilli's.
But I know not everybody had variety of places in their cities.
Then Burgers just think in absolutes.

>>17054836
Yes they do
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-1377341/amp/Olive-Gardens-Italian-Job-Ex-employee-claims-annual-staff-trip-Tuscan-cookery-school-little-paid-vacation.html

>>17062816
Wait 'til you run into oats-anon.

>>17060237
Oh wow so evil how could they do this bros?

>>17063445
Barilla is based

Also nobody thinks olive garden is great or anything, its just a basic italian restaurant.

>>17062586
yep, it's like the starbucks PR move "we opened even in ITALY!!!! look people our coffee is good" while they opened a huge fancy cafe` that serves pretty much espresso only and has only the name

they opened a total of 15 starbucks in all Italy but it's all smoke for the usa market

>>17062826
my bad bro

>>17055644
> 12 minutes is the industry standard
https://www.fsrmagazine.com/content/study-released-average-restaurant-wait-times
It doesn't seems like it is. The average of the study is 23 minutes, with 1/3 of the restaurant averaging 30 minutes.

We are not talking about fast food, I'm not sure I even want to be served in 12 minutes in a restaurant for dinner, I don't want to rush a date or a nice evening

>>17060285
profit doesn't suffers from 5/6 minutes more of wait. To be honest, I guess that serving a shittier food but 6 minutes earlier than a good food acutally damages your business in the medium-long run

>>17064268
That’s wait time for getting a table. And expected ticket time is a little different than actual. If there is no backlog in the kitchen, it should take twelve minutes from the time the order is places to the diner receiving their food. If the restaurant is utterly slammed ticket times will be longer.

But regardless your link is about time spent waiting for a table

>>17062737
Why are you lying?

Everything fried basically comes in a Sysco bag but it isn’t reheated it’s frozen and cooked in the fryer. Some certain sides at places like Applebee’s are microwaved but all proteins at Applebee’s are cooked on their wood-fired grill.

>>17064322
> And expected ticket time is a little different than actual
it's called statistic, I don't see how expected value should not be takein into consideration

> That’s wait time for getting a table
that's fair, but out of 30 minutes (1/3 of the restaurant), what is the likelyhood of waiting 18 minutes just to be served?

the average of 12 minutes holds for entree that requires less time to prepare, like a steak with salads, fish and meat in general or a pizza

An entree with dried pasta can be cooked in 12 minutes, just a couple of extra minutes for sautee and plating. Pre cooking pasta is a shabby short sighted cheap procedure

>>17059545
Line Bump Pads?
WTF is that?

>>17064351
It's very likely in NYC when they want to serve drinks, that's how the shitty restaurants make the most money and get "tips."

>>17055435
>tfw even the crappy central station italian restaurant uses freshly cocked, higher quality dry pasta instead of cooking it in the morning for the whole day

Making people sitting around or standing in line at restaurants is the way the cunts make money.

>>17064400
why do you retarded faggots like to make up shit on topics you know nothing about?

>>17065646
He's right. In Italian restaurant is not so common to find precooked pasta, unless they are specific kind of pasta that requires a lot of time (like 30 minutes bigoli or lasagna). For any other kind of common pasta (linguine, spaghetti, penne, rigatoni etc) pasta is cooked for 10 minutes and in the majority of restaurant with walls it's cooked a la minute. It doesn't take much time to cook it, and if you precook pasta you are a shit restaurant, deal with it

>>17065847
there is absolutely no reason to not used parcooked pasta especially if it's a busy restaurant

>>17065646
>>17065847
* cooked for 10 minutes max, there are pastas the requres 7 minutes to cook.

Since in italy it's the client who ask for the bill (no restaurant will tell you to leave), why the fuck are you in a hurry for 5 minutes difference? If you went out to eat you supposedly want to enjoy the dinner, not rush it like at mcdonald

>>17065862
pre cooked pasta has a different texture, and also pre cooking require a useless extra time before opening that can be used for things that actually matters
are you, as a restaurant owner, willing to risk to serve shit pasta in order to save realistically 3-5 minutes of serving time? if you do you are a retard

>>17065891
you clearly have absolutely zro actual restaurant experience. cook your pasta fresh at home kid.

>>17065901
> cook your pasta fresh a
fresh pasta take even less time retard.

> you clearly have absolutely zro actual restaurant experience
You clearly have zero good restaurant experience. You keep saying that but the fact that this amaze you just tell how of a cooklet you are

>>17065909
LOL kid you very obviously have no restaurant kitchen experience whatsoever

>>17065862
Reheated pasta is qualitatively different.

>>17065918
parcooking pasta and then treating it like fresh for service is absolutely not. it's quantitatively different for sure, though.

>>17065927
> parcooking pasta and then treating it like fresh for service is absolutely not.
It is different, even if you use a blast chiller, like shit restaurants do.

> it's quantitatively different for sure, though.
you probably meant qualitatively

>>17065943
>you probably meant qualitatively
no, i didn't. learn english retard.

>>17065927
If you cool it, the starch retrogrades. Surely you can tell the difference between fresh pasta and reheated leftovers?

>>17065949
Then it doesn't make sense. Do you ever head of starches retrogradation? that's why is a shit idead to precook pasta

>>17055144
Literally never.
Sage goes in all fields. Did you forget?
Technically it only goes in options now but that dumb fuck can shove it up his ass if he’s gonna be that butt hurt about it.

>>17065954
fucking underage faggots with no restaurant experience talking about starch retrograde. what the fuck are you smoking tonight you teenage ESL retard?

>>17065971
*retrogradation

>>17055164
This. I loved this local restaurant in town but they opened a second location so I now I don’t go. Fucking chains have shit food. EVERY small restaurant is better than a big one. ALWAYS

>>17065971
No one is disagreeing that shit restaurants reheat precooked pasta. I don't smoke.

>>17065983
you're not disagreeing that you have absolutely no experience cooking in a restaurant. like i said why do you retarded faggots always like to pipe in with your dogshit opinions on topics you know nothing about.

>>17055535
You’re really gonna sit there and say you make everything “from scratch” at home? You grow your own vegetables and grow wheat for pasta and grow animals too?
No, you don’t. So why is it such a sin that a restaurant doesn’t either. Dumb fuck hypocrite.

>>17055716
>wtf why doesn’t every kitchen make every dish as they come. Prepping ahead of time is lazy.
How do you people exist on here. Aren’t you all applebees line cooks and dishwashers?

>>17065993
your only argument comes from the fact that you worked in nigger restaurant and think all other restaurant like the shit you worked in. starch retrogradation is not an opinion retard, you can obviously taste the effect on pasta and it's not pleasant at all. All this to save 3-5 minutes of cooking
You don't have to be a genius (and you clearly are not) to understand that the cost/benefit for a restaurant is not very favorable

There are some kind of pasta that are precooked (the big shape pasta) but again, for normal common shape there is no reason at all to do it, if not for a false sense of "optimizing" that some owners think

>>17065993
My family has a restaurant but I'm not going to larp that I've been a cook, I still know it's entirely possible to cook pasta to moment.

>>17066023
>My family has a restaurant but I'm not going to larp that I've been a cook
LOL exactly like i said you know absolutely jack shit and just spewing dogshit opinions on topics you know nothing about

>>17066030
not that guy, but at this point you sound like a retarded toddler

>>17056308
Define cooking pasta fresh. You’re saying there’s a dedicated station in the restaurant for making pasta? That sounds like a colossal waste in literally every restaurant. You’re one of those people who buy in to the bullshit and believe it really taste better, right? You let the wine faggot talk you in to an 800 dollar bottle when you just wanted the house red?

>>17066032
very good and intelligent counterpoint. i'm utterly invalidated.

>>17066023
>My family has a restaurant
you mean they own a subway franchise?

>>17057898
I have 9 Italian restaurants in town. The only other place I go to has better breadsticks and that’s it. Even the 40 a plate place isn’t much better than Olive Garden desu. I just don’t understand why you people sperg out so hard about food. The difference between top tier food and chain restaurant isn’t that big so why pay hundreds when you can pay 30?

Every restaurant, to order, makes the pasta from flour/etc., shapes it, boils a fresh pot of water, then cooks it. This all takes about 10-12 minutes.

>>17066035
> You’re saying there’s a dedicated station in the restaurant for making pasta?
yes, like in pic >>17056125
> That sounds like a colossal waste in literally every restaurant.
How so? people pay for pasta you are not giving it for free
> You let the wine faggot talk you in to an 800 dollar bottle when you just wanted the house red?
that sounds like a desperate projection

>>17066035
>Define cooking pasta fresh. You’re saying there’s a dedicated station in the restaurant for making pasta?
Making pasta in the morning and boiling it. It's a box of boiling water. Are you astonished by the concept of a dedicated deep fryer too?
>>17066044
Tiny local joint, 200 covers a week.

>>17062787
>getting upset about a low paying job and taking pride in cooking food
EVERYONE cooks food. Get over yourself. The internet has every recipe ever. Learn a real skill.

>>17066064
200 covers...a week? what the fuck? maybe you're taking too long to cook your pasta?

>>17066082
> 200 covers...a week?
not him but they are ~15 people at serving. he said it was a tiny joint

>>17066090
>he said it was a tiny joint
like literally a shack?

>>17066097
unless the place is going really bad he probably have 20/30 covers that concentrate during the weekend, so it's a normal small restaurant with 6/7 tables

>>17066110
That math makes sense to you with 6 tables?

>>17066121
some table for 2, some for 4 and maybe one or 2 bigger tables for families. It's a rough estimate

>>17066127
That should be about 200 covers just on Friday Saturday. And they’re making fresh pasta? Every day?

>>17055153
>>17055153
They got rid of that? Jesus Christ no...

>>17066134
> And they’re making fresh pasta? Every day?
well you by the estimate you serve 50 people on everyday of the weekend.

if you serve 125g of pasta each you have to make 6kg of pasta assuming everyone orders pasta. never done so much pasta, but with a mixer and pasta shaper it should take no more than a couple of hour

>>17066082
Worked at a decent family run restaurant in Europe for a while- was also a country hotel.

This is ecomincal and profitiable if you have a small set menu.

and since you're not doing ala carte, there's very little waste- and the food is consistent.

>>17054798
I haven't been there in a few years, but I really liked the braised beef and tortellini. I hope it's still on the menu.

>>17066021
>All this to save 3-5 minutes of cooking
In a restaurant 3 to 5 minutes of cooking time is huge and that’s a massive difference in ticket time

>>17066647
>In a restaurant 3 to 5 minutes of cooking time is huge and that’s a massive difference in ticket time
Yes sure, and if you go down to 60mph the kitchen explode
You are not a fucking surgeon, people can wait 3 minutes

>>17066070

>>17054798
This, where the fuck did the hate even come from? Love this place, better than Red Lobster that's for sure. Plus girls love going on dates here.

>>17055694
> My old housemates friend worked for Olive Garden in the 90's and I know what I'm talking about

do you realize how fucking stupid you sound?

>>17067495
hes trolling you retard

>>17062787
i get that it's for safety but i fucken hate the jackets

>>17060237
literally whats wrong with this you schizo

>>17056529
You're wrong bro

>>17067217
Well it is true that some chain restaurants offer a consistent experience at the cost of lower quality. It’s also true that some chains or franchises really suffer in certain areas because of poor local management. So it’s common to be critical of chains.

But there’s also a pretentious snobbery to criticize anything that’s common or popular. In the mid 20th century Italian dining was considered classy by Americans for a variety of reasons and Olive Garden made a packaged repeatable affordable version of it. So yeah there were nicer more expensive local Italian places people could go to but for many people Olive Garden scratched the itch. I guess some people resent that Olive Garden outcompeted those places. Which is fair - I would be annoyed if all local gourmet burger joints were put out of business by Five Guys and people talked about Five Guys as the typical example of a great burger restaurant. (i like five guys btw)

As far as Red Lobster, I think they’re OK but it’s a lot of money to spend for what I think is a mediocre seafood experience. If I’m going to go out for seafood I bite the bullet and spend more to get better (I’m fond of Pappadeaux for one - also a chain). I also make seafood at home just cuz it’s so much cheaper.

>>17055635
so what kind of chems do they put into the alfredo sauce?

>>17069720
Butter
Flour
Garlic
Milk
Cream
Parmigiano Reggiano cheese
Peccorino Romano cheese
Salt
Pepper

>>17069730
Where does the chemical taste come from?

>>17054798
Keyed

>>17055153
I said goodbye when they dropped the mussels.

>>17069767
Miguel. He's new here.

>>17054790
Never been an older garden , but I heard that 1 meal is like 1200 cal, is that true ?

>>17069730
>Peccorino
Lmao

>>17069767
It doesn’t have a chemical taste. Maybe you don’t like the butyric acid in the cheese

>>17055007
When I worked at Olive Garden, all sauces and soups were made in house except the marsala sauce came in a tub and was microwaved. The mussels are also microwaved in a plastic tray then dumped into a double plate to keep it warm.

>>17071825
For their dinner entrees? Yeah about https://media.olivegarden.com/en_us/pdf/olive_garden_nutrition.pdf

>>17067217
Andrew Hussie shit on Olive Garden's breadsticks once, I think in Homestuck. You might be surprised at the impact that could have with tween faggots circa 2011, who would now be like 20 and constantly shitposting online.

>>17055694
I thought TDS was only a meme…