/ck/ - Food & Cooking

yes and basato

>>17050230
Why is it $600 at w&s?

>>17050289
Nevermind. It's $600 for a set of 12.

If you’re from the US you can order some panettone/pandoro here: https://www.eataly.com/us_en/holiday-market/panettone-pandoro

There are other websites and they’re also sold by bakeries directly online.

If you’re from Europe: https://www.corso101.com/en/panettoni-513

>>17050230
I wish I knew where to get the legit stuff. All I can find is this brand, but I'm sure there's better out there.

>>17050662
Reeee

>>17050662
Where are you from?

>>17050669
Merica-Florida. Though I just realized what >>17050347 posted.

>>17050686
This is based in San Francisco and has stellar reviews. It looks expensive though.

https://www.thisisfromroy.com/

>>17050702
>$75 for bread
Hard pass. The hazelnut spread sounded interesting, bit they don't even list the full ingredients.

>>17050347
>https://www.corso101.com/en/panettoni-513

uhhhh

>>17050718
Then shop on Eataly or one of these Italian bakeries that sells directly in the USA.

This one is very good and there’s the Black Friday 20% discount so you can pay less: https://www.eataly.com/us_en/holiday-market/panettone-pandoro/olivieri-classic-panettone-in-box-31-7-oz

>>17050752
Here’s the top 30 artisanal panettone for last year according to the Italian website dissapore.

https://www.dissapore.com/spesa/migliori-panettoni-artigianali-2020-la-classifica/

Olivieri is at 9th place.

Look for the ones who ship in the USA or Europe (like Tiri 1957), Straya, etc..

Anyone tried making them? Thought about making some this Christmas

>>17050230
Why would you buy these packaged ones? They literally have that "stale" taste as their focal point. I talked to my Italian friend about this and he said that no, they're not supposed to have that flavor at all, and that only retards buy the packaged ones.

What the fuck, why do we have this thread every year? Is this some kind of recurring meme, or do people actually grossly overpad for stale sweet bread?

Here in Berlin we don't eat panettone or pandoro, they only eat it in the shitty italian villages (paeselli) where Ciruzzo lives in ugly council houses with mice and munnezz.

>>17050894
Well, there are different tiers of panettone and pandoro.
The first red flag is the expiration date, because the cheap ones made for the great distribution last several months and are made in advance before the Christmas holidays.
Usually up to 10€ they’re considered cheap superstore sweets, then in the 20€ area you can find semi artisanal panettone which is more fresh and uses better ingredients but the ultimate panettone is made freshly and uses top tier ingredients, it also has a shelf life of like 2 months, maybe some more. Even the ones that are supposed to be sold outside Italy are still made at the end of November so they can be eaten fresh for Christmas.

>TL;DR = cheap panettone is trash and nobody buys it seriously if they want a good sweet, raise your budget and aim to spend at least 20€ for a decent one.

>>17050924
Why not anon?

>>17050881
It’s difficult and it requires a mixer for the dough, but if you want to try here’s a step by step recipe:

https://youtu.be/kRJ4ypkqo-A

This year the madman made a panettone using a recipe from 1860!

https://youtu.be/FNmfWfFjjAs

>>17050940
Risi

>>17050967
I saw the old recipe video and it honestly looked more appetizing than the modern one, but then again I'm a fan of semola rimacinata.
It just needs a little more raisins and candied fruits (but really not much) to be perfect.
Will definitely try it once I'm done moving.

>>17050950
>20e
Lole funnie currency
Anyway, I'll just go to an Italian bakery or something.

>buy from Lidl, 4 bux
>tastes like shitty sweet bread
>next year, go to eataly and buy Olivierei 18something for almost 10x as much
>tastes like shitty sweet bread

Fuck off

>>17051003
Make sure that the ingredients list look like this:

>Weight: 1000 g
>Shelf Life: 45 days from the date of production
>Ingredients: wheat flour, butter, raisin, sugar, fresh egg yolks, candied oranges (orange peels, glucose syrup, sugar), natural sourdough starter (wheat), candied citron (citron peels, glucose syrup, sugar), orange past, honey, malt, salt, natural vanilla from Madagascar. The product contain no preservatives.

>>17051022
Nice try rabbi

>>17051034
Seethe more Faggato

>>17050665
$4.99 on sale at my local WallyGreen's, don't knock it

>>17050230
I should really try to learn making them.
All the good brands I grew up with are dead or dying and I haven't found any decent replacement yet.

>>17051243
I feel like pandoro would be easier

>>17051348
Yeah, they're both basically autismo tier dough preparation, but pandoro ends with a mold while panettone recipes have you do weird shit to make the proper shape.

Bump

>paying $40 for a loaf of brioche with a few pieces of fruit in it
why do you people do this?

>>17052449
Prices change a lot depending on the country. In Italy they're just 4€/kg.

>>17052449
it's tasty

Although I'm from Italy, I hate panettone. Actually, I strongly dislike nearly all of our baked sweets and desserts. Give me something French, German or English instead.

>>17050230
That looks like some old rotten shoe that's buryied for like 20 years then dug up.

>>17052872
What about Hayden Panettione?

>>17052888
No. I'm not a lesbian.

>>17050924
It's almost Christmas and that's a Christmas food that people like and want to talk about.

>>17052872
> Actually, I strongly dislike nearly all of our baked sweets and desserts
> disliking pastiera, sfogliatella, castagnaccio, baba`, bonet, canestrelli, sud-tirol strudel, pan pepato
you are a disgusting tastelet

>>17053172
so you're also a faggot, that explain everything

>>17050967
people should stop suggesting chef barbato panettone recipe, it's obviously horrible. Looks more like a bread-brioche than a panettone

The other recipes are good, some of them are even in spanish iirc, but stop posting the panettone recipe

>>17052888
short body, looks like her parents made her do competitive sports too hard at a young age (like the way gymnasts always look fucked up)

>>17053654
Hopefully they didn't steal her money like most sports parents seem to do.

>>17053654
It's like idiot parents living off of their kids and stealing thier wages. Apparently there are some laws about that these days.

When parents are claiming to be so called managers and such living off of their kids then they're nothing but parasites.

anons please tell me you use panettone for french toast and bread and butter pudding

best fucking time of the year

>>17053790
I just use a cast iron skillet

>>17053794
Sometimes I make pannettone french toast with condensed milk in the pie maker so it gets crispy on all sides

>>17052684
They’re not you stupid nigger, 4€/kg is literal baked cardboard.

lots of stupid americans in this thread falling for "artisanal" bullshit.

You look dumb, not like you have a culture lol

>>17054461
4€/kg is standard Bauli/Motta/etc pricing. That's pretty much what 90% of italians eat, no amount of snobbish airs is gonna change that fact.
Sure it's not as good as the top tier handmade stuff, but that goes for literally every food product ever, you fucking retard. It's not even worth mentioning.

>>17054501
you're talking to an american that thinks he's cultured because he orders bullshit for too much money.

>>17054501
They’re discounted, they’re also INDUSTRIAL shit and they taste like an industrial product so stop comparing this trash with the real thing.
90% of people eat McDonald’s too but it doesn’t mean that a real hamburger tastes like that.

>>17054534

>>17053635
>she called a woman a faggot
You do know what 'lesbian' means, right?

>>17054534
>They’re discounted
They're not, it's just false advertising. They keep the same price the whole time they're available, they just take advantage of the fact that they aren't produced nine months out of twelve to pretend that the christmas price is actually lowered.
>they’re also INDUSTRIAL shit
Just like 99% of the so called artisanal ones, don't kid yourself. The only real artisanal stuff is the kind made to be eaten within a few days of getting out of the oven, everything packaged is the same shit with different brands.
The only real difference between a mass market brand and a small market one is that the big brand has its own production facilities, whereas the small one shares one factory with another dozen or so "artisanal" brands who sell you the exact same dough with a differently colored piece of cardboard around it.

>>17054600
Nigger I can tell the difference between a shitty 4€ Motta and another random panettone that costs 20€, mainly because the second one uses moist fruit and the “bread” isn’t dry and crunchy like the cheap one which has chewy raisins…get over with this, there’s a reason if they’re so cheap and you can’t tell me that a 18€ Albertengo panettone tastes the same as a supermarket Bauli/Motta.
There are some store exclusive panettone with made that are the same exact rebranded panettone of another producer (usually more expensive) but still they’re - how strange - products that are normally sold for 3-4x the price of your 4€ Motta industrial cake.

Also do I have to tell you that they’re so cheap because of scale economies?

>>17053850
Based

https://youtu.be/N0rcIUFyiDE

I just toast a slice in a hot pan and eat it as it is, otherwise I pour some grand mariner over it (orange liquor)

>>17052878
It’s coffee panettone with chocolate chips, of course it looks dark.

>pic related coffee panettone with white chocolate chips

>>17054621
>I can tell the difference between a shitty 4€ Motta and another random panettone that costs 20€, mainly because I can read the label on the package
FTFY
To be fair, I'm not even trying to argue that there are no differences in quality between brands, but everyone I've ever met who argues the shit you do is invariably just a snob who couldn't distinguish shit from chocolate, nevermind Motta from Albertengo.
The cheap 4€ stuff is cheap, but still not shit, and the 20€ absolutely isn't worth paying five times more, nevermind warranting the elitism to look down on other people for their purchases.
>do I have to tell you that they’re so cheap because of scale economies
You have to tell yourself that, dumbass. It demolishes your own argument since it essentially means they don't need to reduce the quality as much as you're implying since scale gives them OTHER corners to cut instead.

>>17054633
*Grand Marnier

>>17054637
>You have to tell yourself that, dumbass. It demolishes your own argument since it essentially means they don't need to reduce the quality as much as you're implying since scale gives them OTHER corners to cut instead.

What if, carefully open your ears because you don’t want to miss this, Motta and Bauli (and the other brands alike) - since they produce industrial sweets all year long - simply share the ingredients between all their lines of products?
This would explain why they use the same dry ass chewy raisins and candied fruit in the panettone that you can find inside other sweets that have them inside and they’re produced all year long.

Do not even try to “demolish” my argument it you can’t grasp the concept of a multinational producing sweets every single day vs smaller companies and bakeries producing a Christmas sweet one or two months a year.

>>17050230
Had this small chocolate panettone this morning.
Nuke it for the best results though.
If only for a few minutes it tastes all fresh and moist again.

Top kek

https://youtu.be/Dwro98vcym0

>>17054672
Why is he purple?

>>17054690
Maybe because he's a yammering homosexual that needs to be on tv?

>>17054653
>the other brands DON'T produce sweets all year long
Am I getting trolled? You can't possibly be this dumb.

>>17053790
Do you have a recipe for the bread and butter pudding? It sounds nice.

>>17054720
Albertengo only produces panettoni and colombe.

https://albertengo.com/ita/monografiaAlbertengoFinale.pdf

>>17054730
Top kek, yes they only make panettoni and colombe under their own brand, but their factory is open year-round taking orders on behalf of other brands, dumbass.
Did you honestly believe they could stay afloat with just two seasonal products?

What's the best basic Italian supermarket panettone?

>>17054820
Balocco

>>17054820
this one >>17050665

>>17054461
>baked cardboard

aka panettone

Panettone is just bad food used for regifting, only the idiot who doesn't manage to regift it is stuck actually eating that shite. Same with mooncakes.

>>17054820
https://www.scattidigusto.it/2020/12/05/panettone-al-supermercato-il-migliore-del-natale-2020-costa-369-euro/

https://www.dissapore.com/spesa/quale-panettone-scegliere-al-supermercato/

>>17054487
the american living inside your head at all times fucks your wife while you're not looking brown child

>>17050752
Basde

https://youtu.be/5GIXbaQWSW8

Where’s Bauducco-San?

For me, it's Bauli

>>17056619
In the early 2000s Bauli made top notch pandoro, now it sucks ass

Up

>>17052888
Now this is pod racing

for me, it's the pudding

For me, it’s Tiri.

The best panettone ever.

Last year I got shilled into buying this one and I was deeply satisfied.

I made panforte and torrone yesterday

>>17054816
Anon really thought that his shitty mass market Christmas wonderbread was somehow handcrafted by artisanal Italian hipster bakers two months out of the year. Peak consoomer.

>>17058974
Just look at the manufacturing date, dumb nigger

>>17050230
Panettone>>>>>pandoro

>>17058966
Torrone is delicious and one of my favourite things ever. Panforte, too, though we call it panpepato 'round these parts. Pics?

>>17059097
Most of the time that's not on the packaging, there will be an expiry date but to look up the manufacturing date you have to either have to call the company up or look online and use the packaging code.

what’s this all about? redpill me on why co/ck/s enjoy this stuff

>>17059252
>what’s this all about?
it's a meme. americans fell for it because someone told them they would look like they have a culture when they order it for 70$+

Is chainbaker's recipe any good? I've never eaten one of these that wasn't less than $15. I was just watching his holiday videos cause they are comfy.

>>17059297
They have those Brazilian ones for $5 at all of the supermarkets near me.

>>17059277
I just saw one in the store years ago, bought it, and enjoyed it. I had never heard of it before that point.

>>17059328
Im saying for making one as a amateur baker. I'm not Italian so i dont care that much about this meme cake but I have a friend who likes them and buys the shitty ones.

>>17059252
>redpill me on why co/ck/s enjoy this stuff
Because it tastes good, why else?
Pandoro and panettone are just two traditional christmas sweet breads from Italy, and like the vast majority of italian food they're tasty as fuck.
The autists in this thread are just fighting over brands, and over whether some simple sweet bread is worth the absolutely insane markups at which panettone and pandoro are sold outside of Italy.

>>17050665
Finna crush one of these over Christmas break no cap finna be bussin frfr

>>17050230
If you really hate someone, you get them those packaged ones.

They taste like shit and are so dry you might even be lucky enough for them to choke on it.

>>17050230
I just had a $7.99 loaf last night and it was excellent. Straight from Italy! ( new york)

>>17060422
But people here keep telling us that Bauducco panettone is good and moist. Is it true?

>>17060432
Do you have any pics, bro?

my half sister gave my dad one of these last year for christmas and he didnt eat any of it. went so far as to say "they can throw that shit in the fuckin creek." so I'm gonna tell her to get him a bottle of Jameson Black Barrel this year.