/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17042435
Oops forgot the recipe
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/chilli-con-carne-recipe/amp

>>17042437
>beans
Dropped.

I know people usually add a teaspoon of sugar or some dark chocolate, but I often add a teaspoon of honey to mine instead.

>>17042456
Got some honey, but was thinking of not adding sugar or honey cause I'm afraid it's gonna taste sweet

>>17042442
This. Texas bowl of red is the only valid kind of chili, the rest are just spicy stews.

>>17042435
It looks pretty basic but should taste fine. Get rid of the rice, though. It's not curry. Replace it with cornbread.

>>17042494
Yeah was thinking of eating it with bread, too bad my bakery doesn't have good cornbread so I'm gonna get a ciabatta

>>17042435
ignore the directions for seasoning and figure it out yourself.

>chocolate
>rice
>sugar
>honey
seriously how do you people mess this up?
>Ground beef
>kidney, black beans
>vidalia onions
>cowhorn, jalapeño, habanero, bell peppers
>crushed garlic
>peeled tomatoes
>tomato paste

>stew beans
>cook down onion, pepper, garlic
>cook meat in juices
>add all of the above together except for paste
>when it's all good and mixed, add the following spices:
>cayenne
>cumin
>white pepper
>paprika
>add the paste, mix until all is mixed well, turn heat low
>let it sit for a few hours on low heat stirring occasionally
You will never have any better chili. Eat it with cornbread.

>>17042503
Actually, looking over the recipe again--something looks pretty fucked with the ratios especially concerning the chili powder and the sugar. You shouldn't be adding equal amounts of sugar and chili powder lol. If I was you, I'd add chili powder to taste and only enough sugar to cut any sort of acidity from the tomatoes (which shouldn't take much at all).

Haven't looked at the recipe, but adding sugar of any kind is unnecessary. If you want to add sweetness, just caramelize some of your onions at the start and cook down some tomato paste just before adding your braising liquid. Would be plenty sweet without tasting like you added sugar to a meat sauce.

>>17042525
>You will never have any better chili.
>Peeled tomatoes
My ideal chili is not a tomato sauce.

>Ground beef
Nothing wrong with ground beef chili but it'll never surpass the stuff made with cubed chuck and/or pork.

>>17042535
I used to think this but adding a tiny amount of brown sugar does improve the chili.

>>17042560
I could see a bit of brown sugar adding a pleasant flavor if that's the kind of profile you're going for, definitely wouldn't want to add much though.

>>17042566
Yeah--seriously I only add a very small pinch. It shouldn't taste sweet at all. It adds a very, very subtle pleasantness that will have people asking for your recipe.

>burgerstanis NEED to add sugar to their beef mince and bean stew
You truly cannot help yourselves

>>17042560
Just add more onions for some sweetnes.

>>17042572
OP's recipe is British

>>17042532
>>17042535
Gonna put very little or no sugar at all
My problem is that I like spicy food but my roommate doesn't so it's gonna be tricky to get the right level of spiciness

>>17042435
Don't listen to the spergs. There is no art to chilli it's just sloppa that rednecks care about. Like all sloppa all you have to do is balance out the salt, sweet , acid, umami to your liking. The rest of the flavourings are important but not as important as the big 4 flavours. Load that sloppa with some kind of fat and alchohol while you cook it to trap aromatics and you'll have a more complex dish. Anyone who gives that much of a shit over the authenticity of sloppa is a colossal faggot who is too shit to make anything else. Sloppa is the lowest of skill ceiling foods, and white people sloppa is even lower.

>>17042590
based

>>17042580
Make it how you like and tell your roommate to cut it by half with sour cream and cheese or apologize to his asshole in advance.

Real talk though I feel that, my wife basically can't handle spice at all and while I don't go out of my way to make it spicy I really like the flavor that comes from the various chilis I use and tend to end up making it a bit on the spicier side inadvertently.

>>17042590
You somehow manage to sound like the most pretentious piece of shit imaginable while saying other people are taking their chili too seriously, so congratulations on that I guess.

>>17042590
This is true but there are still shitty recipes out there for whatever sloppa that you're planning on making.

>>17042590
>fat and alchohol
Would a 50/50 pork/beef minced meat be better? Maybe a bit of red wine too?

>>17042590
>sloppa

Opinion invalidated.

>>17042590
Imagine thinking "don't add a bunch of unnecessary sugar to your meat and bean stew, it won't taste very good" is sperging.

>>17042597
Maybe I'll just add more pepper to my plate

>>17042608
Not him but a pork and beef mix works great but bite sized chunks of your preferred roast cut is the best IMO. Don't use red wine to deglaze use your favorite dark beer. The flavor of a rich dark beer works better in chili.

>>17042608
The meat mix really depends on your tastes, lot of people swear by the 50/50 pork and beef mix but I tend to enjoy all beef personally. I definitely wouldn't add wine to a chili, I feel like you're going to end up way out there with your flavors. Add your favorite beer as a braising liquid, I feel like brown or amber ales work best.

>>17042625
Also, I don't know if you have Mexican chelada beers in the UK but they're even better than dark beer. Use that instead if you can get it.

>>17042625
>>17042645
>>17042648
I like pork(it's the meat we mostly eat here(Greece)) so 50/50 it is.
Would a guinness work?

>>17042613
Pretty sure it was more about spergs caring if beans are in the dish

>>17042610
Chili is absolutely sloppa, but there's no reason not to take pride in your sloppa and make it the best it can be

>>17042656
Yeah guinness works just fine. I've used that before and my chili turned out great.

>>17042656
If you like it, it'll work. Guinness wouldn't be my first pick but I've definitely used it. Just don't fall for the meme retards throw around about using shit beer for cooking, you're going to taste it so it should be something you like.

>>17042662
>>17042667
Guinness it is then
Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I'll probably post results tomorrow

>>17042437
>amp

>>17042532
Alternatively, don't use tomatoes

>>17042435
The bullion cubes
Replace with real stock to turn your garbage into a real meal

>>17042832
Just a bit of tomato paste it's the perfect amount of tomato for chili, never understood why people try to turn it into a tomato sauce using whole/diced tomatoes, crushed tomatoes, sauce, puree, etc. You're just covering up the flavors that make chili good at that point.

>>17042842
Yes, exactly. Using just a dab of tomato paste is so much better than tossing in actual tomatoes. Gets acidic and covers the chili flavor.

>>17042842
>>17042853
because then it's just ground beef stew

>>17042558
>implying chopped tomatoes make chili into a sauce
pork is fine, I prefer beef in chili though.

>>17042997
>Stewed beef and chilis

Yes congratulations you've just defined what chili is

>>17042832
You could do that but it'll taste very one dimensional. You'll just get the flavor of cumin and chilli with every bite and that's about it since it overpowers everything else including the meat.

>>17042525
>Ground beef
Fucking disregarded.

>>17043198
>beef is... le bad

>>17043190
You're retarded

Personally I make it by doing the following:
Cubed stewing beef, brown half in fat of your choice.
Add onions and garlic, brown, deglaze with some dark beer.
I mix canned chipotles in adobo sauce, cocoa powder, canned tomatoes, cumin, cayenne pepper, black pepper in a blender.
Pour over onion meat in pot
Add chicken stock and corn. Masa harina or flour to thicken
Simmer for a long time, about 1.5 hrs. Add salt at the end.
Serve with sour cream, olives, tortilla chips, cheese, etc.

>>17043280
Addendum: sub can ed tomato with 1tbs paste if you choose. I may have done either at some point.

>>17043248
Nice insult. You win a million internets. That still doesn't change the fact that your beef + chili spice mixture tastes very plain. Tomatoes and other ingredients were added for a reason.

>>17043280
>beer
>adobo
>cocoa
>chicken stock
>corn
>cornmeal
>flour
>OLIVES

>>17042660
You misunderstand. Your opinion is invalid because you used the word "sloppa" at all, not because you used it in regard to chili specifically.

>>17043350
Yes. Black olives.

>beef and turkey mince
>chopped tomato (and one fresh tomato I had to spare)
>yellow pepper
>various mixed seasonings you'd expect (garlic, oregano, smoked paprika etc)
>nice bit of frank's hot sauce
>some spinach wilted through at end

would you consider this a 'chili' or just a spicy beef/turkey stew-category thing?
>its fucking delicious eitherway

>>17043389
Don't seek approval from these fucking retards. Americans do so much random shit with chili that it's basically fully customizable as long as you include meat, chili peppers, and cumin. Everything else is optional.

>>17043426
Cocoa powder chili fag here. Seconded. The notion that chili must be meat+chili+nothing else is retarded, and you're artificially limiting yourself culinarily. There's boundaries of course, but I've seen apples in chili ffs and it was still constituted as chili. Personally, I don't like anything but pinto beans if i even use them, and i prefer beef to ground turkey, but this board is fucking autisticly puritanical in it's understanding of chili.

>>17043426
well it didn't include the last two so I guess its technically not lol
I even have cumin in my pantry. just didn't think to add it

>>17043383
Dumb european.

>>17043389
Not chili, sounds fine though.

>>17043426
>Americans do so much random shit with chili
The people posting anything that isn't onions+meat+peppers+beans+tomatoes+spices are europeans.

>>17043449
Chocolate does not belong in chili.

>>17042465
>spicy stews
Thank you for clarifying what chili is

>>17043588
I'm American, retard

I've made a lot of chili in my life. I've even made Lady Bird Johnson's recipe. (https://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Lady-Bird-Johnsons-Pedernales-Chili/)) And I'm now old enough and don't care enough to just like what I like. All chili is fine except for Cincinnati chili which is literally just Greeks ruining spaghetti bolognese.

>>17043280
>ctrl-f "masa"
>only this guy gets it
Well done.

What I do is beef, onions, +/- beans, and tomato paste. Add garlic powder, oregano, chili powder, ground cumin, MORE ground cumin. I always add at least one bottle of beer. If it's a light beer, I'll oftentimes put in a bit of cocoa powder; otherwise if it's a dark beer, I won't. The rest of the liquid is water or chicken stock.

It is very important to me that chili has a tiny bit of tang. I adjust tang and spice levels by adding, tasting, readding, and retasting over and over again while juggling chile powders, hot sauces, and apple cider vinegar.

Cook until you think the flavors are more or less to your liking. Then, add masa for flavor and thickening. The masa flavor is an absolute must. It does not taste right without it.

Serve with a platter of sour cream, cheese, and green onions.

>>17044820
Then you're a yankee or californian which is no better.

>>17042435
>Is this a good recipe? What would you add/remove?
Chili con carne is going to be wrong everytime when you go to BBC as your recipe source. It's tex mex, not even really mexican. So, this recipe, surpringly is almost okay.

1) Remove the beef stock cube, which is going to introduce celery, carrot and parsley flavors. Instead, just brown the minced beef well, when doing your step of browning up the crumbles in a Tbsp of, ideally, corn oil, though olive oil is okay. Be sure to drain it well if it isn't sirloin/lean.

Marjoram doesn't belong, but it might be as close as you can get in England to some mexican oregano. Sub in dried coriander or fresh cilantro, instead. or just leave the herbs out.

Go with canned whole tomatoes with a rough chop or hand crush them, or instead canned crushed tomatoes in puree. For each lb of beef, a single can, not two cans of tomatoes. For each lb of beef, 2 cans of kidney beans, well drained, works. If you are in the US you might like Bush's kidney bean product called "chili magic" which gives it a 2nd day kind of flavor to the beans.

Most people are using green bell pepper, not red. Use ancho chili powder, if you can buy it, otherwise, you can soak dried chilies and puree them in the blender, or just use ordinary chili powder, not "hot chili powder" but you can amp up the burn with some topping of sliced fresh chili. I like a single red jalapeno or I panfry strips of dried mexican chilies like california, pasilla, ancho, etc.

No need to add sugar or chocolate. That harkens to mole, and if you add chocolate, you'd need some roasted pumpkin seeds to balance it, so just ignore those instructions.

no beans!!!!

>>17042442
>>17042465
t.the most retarded trannys on Earth

Am I the only one that doesn't put oregano in my chili?

>>17043237
No, dickhead, *ground* beef is bad.

Cubed chuck roast
Ground beef
Carmelized onions
Habanero peppers
Dried chili peppers, ground
Oregano
Cumin
Salt
Black pepper
Unsweetened cooking chocolate
Tomato paste
Bottle of dark beer for deglazing
Beans
Simmer in water to cover
Let reduce until thick as a stew
Garnish with a spoonful of sour cream
Serve with herbed, unsweetened cornbread

Literally the simplest stew you could ever make. Why do so many people still get it wrong?

>>17045363
Why is ground beef worse than chunked beef?

>>17045390
>Unsweetened cooking chocolate
>Why do so many people still get it wrong?
gee I wonder why

>>17045422
>he doesn't know
>he hasn't realized

>>17045228

>>17045194
Thank you, fren

Hestons chilli is pretty good, needs a lot more chilli that the recipe calls for though.

https://www.lovefood.com/recipes/59512/heston-blumenthals-rich-chilli-con-carne-with-spiced-butter-recipe

>airfry ground meat for 15 minutes at 190°C
>get a pot
>can of tomatoes
>can of beans
>1 bag lidl mix
>1 spoon sambal oelek
>dump meat in
>mix, simmer a bit

>>17045420
Too small, if you have a good butcher you can get "chili grind" which is larger

>>17049686

>>17047097
>LP
>"superiority"
sigh

>>17045228
It's just chili you fag. Chili purists are worse than hot dog purists. You're getting twisted up over slop. Let people make what they want.

>chocolate in a recipe
Am I the only one thinking that's beyond stupid?
Chocolate should be for dessert only

>>17042525
>sugar
>honey
Why do you need both?

>>17045363
there is literally nothing wrong with ground beef

>>17049686
He’s not wrong you know. I always use chili packets like this

>>17050117
You'd be surprised how well a bit of mole kicks up a pot of chili.

>>17050043
NOT SORRY, the meat comes out excellent, the beans are of course necessary or else it's just bolognese, the tomatoes add a zesty juiciness, the sambal gives it an extra kick and only a fool doesn't use a mix.

>>17050147
My cat caught a mole the other day, should I toss it in there?

>>17042442
>>17042465

Beans are essential in chili, Texasfags are definitely wrong about this point. I don't want to eat a whole bowl of just ground beef and sauce. Nobeans chili is one of the most retarded memes ever

>>17042435
>What would you add
instant coffee thank me later

>>17042435
Havent read all.
I would add brown sugar, some medium chili (hate getting the elevator feels), cinnamon and/or a little chocolate.

>>17042437
Decent recipe, the American version seems really boring and shitty
I'd put actual chillies in it as well as chilli powder though

>>17042494
Tomato bread is a good alternative

>>17051906
Throw the cat in

>>17051926
Beans or no beans both are fine but Texas chili isn't made with ground beef retard

>>17045288
Chili is one of the easiest things to make taste good so long as you have access to the right chilis. It's all sloppa in the end.

>>17042610
Fuck off.

Making some right now. What you do is brown some ground meat, then make it like taco meat. Then you add some tomatoes and a can of chili, then mix in your standard chili seasoning, about a quarter of what you'd use on a lb of meat. Then finally, you add some mexican cheese and mix it in when it melts.
Serve with tortilla chips for a 10/10 chili dip

>>17052993
>I made some chili, one of the ingredients is a can of chili

>>17052993
This is bait right?

brown 2lbs cubed beef with 1 diced onion and some garlic
deglaze with beer
soak about 12 large dried peppers in hot chicken broth (I use ancho, guajillo, pasilla, and new mexico plus another 8-10 arbols and 2-3 chipotles)
blend into paste and add to other ingredients
season with salt, cumin, and oregano
simmer uncovered for 3-4 hours
add more beer if it gets too thick
add masa mixed with cold water if it gets too thin

that's it faggots. no beans, no corn, no sugar, no tomato. if you really can't control yourself you can add a small can of rotel or something. stop thinking that chilis are just a seasoning and not the main ingredient.

>>17053320
It's a teenager - early 20 something learning how to cook. You're supposed to simply observe it and perhaps offer a few words of encouragement.

• Vegetable oil or olive oil
• 2 lb. Beef Chuck (cut into 1 inch cubes do not trim or remove the fat)
• 1lb boneless pork ribs
• 2 medium yellow onions (small chop)
• 6 garlic cloves (finely chopped)
• ¼ cup chili powder
• 1 Tbsp. ground cumin
• 1 medium red bell pepper (diced)
• 1 lb. lean ground beef
• Kosher salt
• 1 Tbsp. Garlic Salt
• 1 28oz can of diced tomatoes
• 1 14oz can of tomato sauce
• 2 15oz cans of red kidney beans (rinsed and drained)
• 1 small can of chipotle peppers in adobo sauce
• 1 cube of baking chocolate (usually wrapped in paper)
• ¾ cup of dark coffee
• ¼ cup of tawny port
• 4-5 turns of South African Smoke from Trader Joes
• 6 liberal shakes of Worcestershire sauce
• Salt and pepper to taste

Sear your meats, remove, add your veg, cook off the water, add the seasoning, toast it, add everything back, throw it in the oven

>>17053308
>>17053320
>>17053424
It's a chili dip you stupid niggers. Go back to eating cum then

>>17053407
You want either ground beef and/or beans in there to make it less brothy, otherwise a bowl of that chili will end up being a few chunks of meat swimming in a mostly empty pool of broth.

>>17053806
No need to be insecure about your mediocre "store brand with extra steps" chili.

>>17054723
it won't. this is without any masa even. you only think chili will be watery because you put a shit load of watery tomato in it.

>>17042442
Based

>>17042503
Just make cornbread.

1 cup flour
1 cup cornmeal
2/3 cup sugar
1 tsp salt
1 egg
1 tbsp baking powder
1/4 vegetable oil or melted butter

Bake at 400F until set (about 10-15 minutes)

>>17042442
I'll fight you in real life. And then while I have your wracked body twisted like a pretzel underneath me, I will unleash a sickening bean fart onto your head

>>17042442
Obvious troll is obvious. Didn't notice the sugar? Cause that's a far bigger sin than beans.

Anyway op, that's not even close to enough chili powder. Fuck that shit up with the powder. Definitely don't sugar... Fuck it if that's the style you're going for here's a better start.

>>17055537
But this is even better than that

>>17042442
pussy

>>17055311
>cornbread
>sugar
not gonna make it

>>17043449
Yes and a haiku is just artificially limiting yourself linguistically.

If you can't get deep, interesting flavor from various dried peppers and beef, you're a shit cook. Just like if you can't write a haiku, you're a shit poet.

t. Shit at both

>>17055565
not gonna make it where, anon? where are you taking us?

>>17050138
Yes he is. You need the fat from the beef to remain in the chili

>>17055714
>where are you taking us?
Flavortown

You guys triggered by this veal and lentil chili I just made?

>>17055179
I keep it simple when I want something simple. Keep pretending you spend 8 hours cooking every night and don't microwave burritos to eat alone

What's wrong with ground beef in chili?
I make my chili with it sometimes

>>17056983
Eating a pile of wet ground beef is missing out on texture, which is why chili recipes typically include cubed chuck roast in addition to ground beef

>>17056748
I called a steel wheel an aluminum one the other day and totally triggered my mechanic coworker haha! He tried telling me they're 2 completely different things and that steel wheels were made of a completely different metal or something! What a triggered retard

>>17056983
Nothing is wrong with it. I wouldnt recommend it if you're trying to make the best chili, although even then sometimes it's nice to have ground beef in there along side cubed. Honestly it doesn't matter what meat you use, that's why chili exists it was cowboys who couldn't bring protein with them so much but dried chili peppers are lightweight. You'd catch whatever was around and make dinner from your peppers and whatever shitty small game you caught that night. Chili is about the flavor of the chili's. And chili's all have different flavors, from earthy to fruity to acidic. The flavor is about the chili peppers you use and cultivating that into a delicious broth (but a thick af broth like a thick beef stew). The meat you use changes the chili's you should use, but not much else. As other anon mentioned, it's largely a texture thing to not use ground.

>>17057191
The cowboys would actually pre-mix pounded dried beef alongside dried chili, onion, and garlic powder, and store it all in tallow. You'd toss the mixture into some boiling water to rehydrate, and you'd have stew. It was basically tex-mex pemmican.

>>17052993
Based retard

>>17057201
Cool, I didn't know that. I suppose what I read about it was about supplementing the diet then perhaps. Cause obviously, you're not gonna catch something every single night and that part of the story missing has actually always bothered me
Mind, I'm a yankie, PA, but my family has always been in love with good chili's so I don't know everything, just enough that I wouldn't offend some Mexicans or Texans I suppose ahha

>>17057153
Pretty garbage metaphor since they're completely different alloys
It's more akin to getting triggered by someone calling stainless or carbon steel just "steel" which is absolutely pedantic and retarded

>>17057247
Wrong

>>17057415
Triggered

>>17057247
no it's like asking for pizza and getting 'go'za or making hamburger helper but calling it goulash.

>>17055273
this looks like the chile colorado i made

>>17057153
Chili with and without beans isn't an entirely different metal,
it's metal and metal but with beans

>>17045390
I'm making this (minus the chocolate) and it's good. All aboard the sloppa express

>>17058067
>he's afraid of using cooking chocolate
Break free, anon

>>17043280
>chipotles in adobo sauce
My nigga. I do the same and its great.

I also suggest chorizos

>>17057824
I didn't say anything about beans retard.