/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17025169
Dry or wet brine?
I just use a salt brine

>>17025169
If you've got a 25lbs+ bird you should've started defrosting yesterday or the day before

>he doesn't have wild turkeys roosting in his yard every morning
NGMI

Save the carcass and make a broth/stock with it.

A turkey needs to be put in the fridge at least a week before it gets cooked to thaw fully. Even after seven days, I still find some ice in the cavity sometimes. I forgot that I needed to take mine out a little earlier this year and took it out of the freezer last Thursday. I put it in a brine this morning and the thing was still mostly frozen except for the drumsticks. Thank goodness it's going to be sitting in some salt water for a couple of days.

>>17025587
>Thank goodness it's going to be sitting in some salt water for a couple of days.
Gross dude, brining is nasty.

>>17025587
Your fridge might be set a bit too cool.

normal rule of thumb is 4-5lbs per 24 hours.

a 20lbs bird should be defrosted in about 4-4.5days in the fridge.

If you're still getting frozen cavity 7+ days in the fridge, your fridge is simply colder than normal, or you're defrosting massive 35+lbs birds.

>>17025594
Probably is then. My turkey is 18lbs and it was barely thawed except for the legs.

>>17025592
It is a nasty process but it makes for a great tasting turkey so it's worth it.

>>17025639
Yeah that's way too cold if an 18lbs bird isn't defrosting in 3-4 days at most.

>>17025645
>makes for a great tasting turkey
no, i like crispy skin. dunking a bird in water prevents that.

>>17025664
Let it dry for 12-24 hours after brining if you want a crispier skin

>>17025649
I've never messed with temp. The maintenance man put a new refrigerator in a few years ago and I've just left it on whatever he put it on. Thanks for the info. I thought a full week was just normal because that's been my experience for years and never bothered to look it up.
>>17025664
My turkeys always have crispy skin. Was there a time you brined and the skin was soggy?

>>17025699
Fridges also do better at certain capacities and where you put the food in the fridge matters. It's just hard to come up with rules of thumb for it because everyone's fridge seems to work different. For me, top back is always the coldest and bottom front is always the warmest, except for the doors. The doors tend to stay warmer than the rest of the fridge. Also for me a fuller fridge stays colder than a packed one so having your fridge really full might contribute to your turkey being really cold.

>>17025664
Brining is just a vehicle to deliver salt in the meat
>>17025671
No, just pat it dry with a paper towel and coat it with butter.

>>17025724
>No, just pat it dry with a paper towel and coat it with butter.
Sure, but if you want VERY crispy skin, let it dry for 12-24 hours.

You should always dry it with a paper towel no matter which way you decide to do it.

>>17025699
>My turkeys always have crispy skin.
everyone says that when it's more like leather. It's like when ramsay said his grilled cheese was perfect.

>>17025169
>today
bruh it's already too late... you're fucked

>>17025726
>let thawed poultry sit for another 24 hours after your brined it
You are a fucking retard

>>17025735
It's super common and if you think I'm the only one who recommends it you're a retard.

>>17025738
No it isn't you are a retard posting headcanon

anyone who wet brines is fucking retarded. it's not 2003 anymore.

>>17025743
https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-brine-a-turkey-225751

>>17025743
>>17025762
whatever you say retard

https://www.savoryexperiments.com/how-to-brine-a-turkey/

>>17025743
>>17025762
>>17025767
https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/how-to-brine-a-turkey/

>>17025767
I like how you didn't highlight the pat down with paper towels part. Enjoy your salmonella and/or ecoli.

>>17025773
are you a nigger? >>17025726
>You should always dry it with a paper towel no matter which way you decide to do it.


Seriously, I already said you should always be patting dry as well. but if you have the time and want crispier skin, let it dry for an additional 12-24 hours.


Not my fault you're seemingly retarded (and entirely BTFO in this situation)

>>17025773
Damn, this much cope after being blown the fuck out? Even places that serve vesse chicken dries out the chicken in the fridge.

>>17025729
Yeah, I'm sure you have comprehensive experience with many people and their brined turkeys.

>>17025783
>posts a million replies trying to prove that his retarded method is popular
>has to make a 'cope' post not even hiding his own seething
You are homosexual fraudulent and most likely jewish

>>17025804
>I want crispy skin
>I know i'll dunk it in water
Brilliant.

>>17025805
wasn't me, besides that was posted less than 60 seconds after my previous post.
>>17025777
>15:26:49
>>17025783
>15:27:32

>>17025805
You are a hillbilly redneck one toothed cousin fucker (all sexes) and most likely white.

>>17025811
This guy has dry turkey and burnt skin.

>>17025816
Yes, I am one of those white people who aren't cattle for jews to control. I onow our existence makes you seethe and uncontrollably lie.

>>17025822
honestly my dude, you're just sad at this point.

You got your ass handed to you, sit down and shut up before you look like an even bigger retard than you already do.

>>17025817
No he doesn't he has his mom make matzo ball soup and posts about how racist Thanksgiving is on twitter

>>17025822
>Yes, I am one of those white people
did you just admit to cousin fucking? gross. Why are all whites inbred?

>>17025832
kek

>>17025832
I'd rather eat matzo than mushy leathery skinned "turkey"

>>17025846
We know, Schlomo. You made it very obvious with your kvetching.

>>17025847
so want my mother to teach you how to cook are you going to suffer through your shitty techniques?

>>17025169
I use a nice apple cider for the brine.

>>17025847
I'd leave the door cracked open so you cloud hear your mother moan as my crusader cock destroys the demon womb you came from.

>>17025846
>leather skinned
If it's leathery is wasn't cooked right. The skin should be crispy with the meat juicy tender.

>>17025856
yeah, that's why you dont' brine it so it does cook right. stupid. Read the thread.

>>17025856
>>17025860
The only way a brine leads to soggy skin is if you didn't dry the skin off.

Just patting dry with paper towels is enough to get a decently crispy skin, but if you want crispier skin, let it dry for an additional 12-24 hours after the brine.

>>17025871
Hey cletus! stop diddlin' your sister for 5 minutes and come n' eeeet. Birds ready!

This jew really wants me to fuck his trollish mother. Pat dry, rub butter. This muh crispy skin argument is asinine. He just wants goys to get food poisoning.

>>17025883
Whatever you say bud

>>17025860
I been brining and smoking whole turkeys for more than a decade, the skin always comes out crispy, so I'm sorry you don't know how to cook, retard. I don't need a thread when I've got first hand experience that tells me you're a dumbass.
>>17025871
>didn't dry the skin off
This. Besides patting it dry, I let it air dry in the fridge for a day.

>>17025890
just like with vaccines the redneck can't face facts.

>>17025890
I don't have a drop of jewish blood in my ancestry, but hey, whatever helps you cope more you dumb nigger faggot.

>>17025897
>user post count hasn't chaned in half an hour
>jew boy resorting to arguing with himself with pleas to authority
This Thanksgiving I will say a prayer for Hitler.

>>17025897
>smoking
>crispy skin
You're fucking dumb dude. smoking doesn't crisp anything.
>>17025895
Looks fucking leathery, like your shitty alkie aunt who still uses a suntan bed in the mall.

>>17025915
>Looks fucking leathery
lol kay

>>17025914
>multiple people can't be posting repeatedly it MUST be someone samefagging
wewlad, you REALLY got BTFO huh?

>>17025922
is that creosote?

>>17025915
Id fuck your sister, but it would result in putting another one of you in the world, so Ill have to pass.

>>17025925
compound herb butter

>>17025922
Goddamn this picture just screams we are inbred and supports childbrides.

>>17025929
no the black shit.

>>17025931
Nope, I live in one of the wealthiest suburbs outside of a major liberal city.

I'm white, but mixed english and American ancestry with a bit of french/english if going back further.

>>17025932
Yes, that's herbs

Herb butter was put in chunks under the skin (the black spots under the skin) and the remaining herb butter was put on top, and re-covered with herbs/butter from basting throughout the cooking process.

>jewish schizo with a 4chan pass is just arguing with himself now
Why are your people so insane?

>>17025943
it's legitimately multiple posters, if you honestly think it's me replying to myself, you're an actual honest to god retard.

One thing we can agree on his herb butter, you get a pass on this one but it's just a deflection tactic.

>>17025949
There are only 8 unique IP's in this thread, it's just me and you arguing with you, and you arguing with yourself for the last hour.

>>17025964
You're delusional, obviously one of the other 6 IPs is ALSO posting.

i don't have a 4chan pass, meaning 60 second post timers, and I've posted screenshots multiple times showing a dotted line next to my posts and a solid line next to posts that reply to me, and if I were to reply to my OWN post, it would show up as a dotted line post, not a solid one, which hasn't happened as evidence seen here >>17025949


Pretend all you want it's just me replying to myself, but you're wrong.

>>17025964
>cletus can't count to 8

>>17025975
No it's just (((You)))

>>17025982
and me, welcome to 4chan where people post anonymously, newfriend!

>>17025982
lmao okay

>>17025982
(((You))) again, new jew schizo poster doesn't even know how to monitor threads.

>>17026021

>>17026033
>all a jew can think about is money
Wish you weren't demons, I just enjoy feasting on thanksgiving.

@17026046
no more (You)'s for (((you)))

Alright I'll fuck your mom and sister with a condom. You are just raising awareness to start thawing a frozen turkey in the fridge for cooklets that may become decent cooks.

>jew immediately abandons thread to go pollute another
That's exactly what I predicted

@17026106
I just got tired of arguing with a schizo off his meds.

>>17026113
But you have resorted to using @ post number as if a (You) matters to me at all. It's not a currency, you aren't depriving me of anything of value.

@17026135
that's just what (((you))) think

>you aren't depriving me of anything of value.
This what makes the jew seethe

@17026170
>i'm still coping with the fact I got BTFO 2 hours ago and if I keep calling him jewish it will in some way prove that I'm not coping or seething
grow up

>>17026188
Im doing neither, you already admitted to being jewish.

@17026198
When was that? >>17025912

>>17026198
No i'm the one that's Jewish you dumb nazi. Sheesh no wonder you guys are losing every battle.

>>17026233
why pretend to be me?

>>17026233
>>17026236
Just saying, im not ACTUALLY accusing you of pretending to be me, I'm just pointing out how retarded he is for thinking we're all the same person.

>unique IP addresses havent changed
So this how gay jewish men flirt, but this is way to feminine to be a gay jew man.

@17026244
>8 IPs
>it MUST be the same person over and over

you need to go back

>>17026250
Again you jewish witch, it is you and me. Just flick your bean and do something productive other than making more demons

>>17026244
>the nazi shrinks back in the face of logic
I've been found out!

>>17026263
we can prove it isn't JUST me and you

>>17026233
>>17026236
These two posts, supposedly both by me according to you, were posted 29 seconds apart, even with a 4chan pass that isn't possible.

>>17026269
You kike cunts are evil, Im a crusader in the loosest of terms.

>>17026283
you're a loon.

>>17026277
Yes they are all you, and you think this is entertaining. So do I.

Kike demoness quit @ing me and gave me You's again because she is a mentally ill cunt like all jewish women are.

>>17026297
admit it, your ex wife was jewish. This is where it all started isn't it? How are the kids taking the divorce?

Jews are a maternal tribe and Jewish womans survival strategy is enslaving weak men to do their bidding, and they get very upset when 'goys' don't fall victim to their antics.

@17026297
no, i just stopped replying

also, still not jewish, or female

>>17026324
You are jewish and female. You just can't stop being evil.

>>17026324
I agree with >>17026331
, the way you cooked butchered that turkey is screams jewish woman.

I'll be making prime rib and duck because turkey sucks ass. Literally just a bigger, worse tasting chicken.

@17026331
@17026338
same fag

i'm a neck beard, but keep trying

>>17026338
>agreeing with yourself
Jewish women are dumb and should stick to making their pussy men do their wicked things.

>>17026342
turkey is fine, just don't fuck it up by dunking it in water.

>>17026346
i'm not you. You dumb nazi. You're batting zero with the ID'ing posts thing.

>>17026342
Welcome to our thread new IP, you should probably leave since this thread is now a flame war

>mother in law insists that i baste the turkey otherwise it'll "get dry"

>>17026350
na it's two posters fucking with a schizo nazi.

>>17026347
It's a mediocre meat and it's just stupid that everybody pretends to love it on Thanksgiving.

>>17026349
You are a jewess lusting for my crusader cock, but I only have a dull knife to cut your head off with.

>>17026356
Ahh yes, I buy 5-6 turkeys every year and eat them every 2-3 months because I'm pretending to like it

makes sense

>>17026356
Wild Turkey were the only easy prey to gather when they were starving and dying of disease until the natives came to help them instead of killing them. They would change their mind less than a year later.

>>17026368
>until the natives came to help
if by came to help you mean were enslaved and forced to "help", then yeah sure.

>>17026360
You're an exception to the rule.

>>17026372
No they came to help and trade, until boat loads more came and started pushing them off of land.

>>17026372
Nobody likes you

>>17026378
>English and Dutch not knowing how to grow crops in Massachusetts
Fucking doubt.

>>17026372
you have to go back

>>17026409
Nah, easy to understand they arrived in late summer and were already short on supplies, the myth of the injun showing them to plant a fish to fertilize the ground never happened. They froze and starved and cannibalized each other all winter and killed Indians that stormed their fortifications until the following spring after word had been sent that there was unused land and primitive tribes that were in the stone age

>>17026437
Monarchs that were afraid of rebellion sent their unuseavle subjects to the America's since there wasn't a war they could wage to get rid of all of them.

>>17026453
Within a few years the (indentured servitude) white slaves hopped ship to try for a better life. And quickly started using their previous masters techniques with jewish imported nigger slaves.

>>17026476
Then the white slave class consolidated on a unexplored continent of resources told the monarchs to fuck off.

>>17026492
At the time of the revtionary war, nobody had any idea of how much land existed west of them, or how brutal it was going to be to settle it.

>>17026502
Anyone desended to the real pioneers that settled this land have a lot of respect for the people we displaced and massacred to get here. It was a long and bloody struggle. You cunts that arrived after don't get a voice on the matter.

If you aren't proud to be an American you should be hunted down and killed.

That's the short and abbreviated history of the United States in factual un-jewed form

The first amendment is freedom of speech, the 2nd amendment is to guarantee the 1st amendment for a reason. Europoors can but won't understand.

>>17026588
Didn't you know that believing in the US constitution makes you a domestic terrorist?

>>17026619
only when it's used as an excuse to kill non-whites and liberals

>>17026622
>only when used as it means
Stop giving people a reason to put bullets in you.

>>17026637
being dark-skinned or voting for a particular person/party isn't a valid reason

>>17026622
It definitely doesn't say that, and you can't whine it to mean anything different. The words are clear and without prejudice you fucking liberal nigger.

>>17026647
>voting for a particluar party whose ideology is killing non-conformists
Yeah that is grounds for self-defense.

>>17026650
so killing conservatives is a-okay?

Coolaroonie

>>17026647
Your idealogical opponent doesn't care about skin color, only their actions. Your political party depends on the actions of a particular skin color to be overrepresented so you can lie and obfuscate reality to turn good people against each other so you can gain power.

>>17026663
You should try it, report back with how it works out for you.

>>17026663
I haven't heard many 'conservatards' other than me wishing for the death of democrats. But I fucking do.

The only way out is to lay down your sword and break bread with your enemy, if your enemy is unwilling to do so you must smite them and cut off their head and display it.

>>17026706
t. Ghengis Khan

>>17026706
>The only way out is to lay down your sword and break bread with your enemy, if your enemy is unwilling to do so you must smite them and cut off their head
too many people take this as "if we sit down together and break bread and they STILL aren't agreeing with me, then i can kill them"

>>17026687
You must not hang around many conservatives I guess. Go to any gun store in Missouri, they'd be happy to tell you about how they'd mow all the libs down with their ar15 if they could get away with it

>>17026687
living under a rock or just pretending not to notice?

>>17026748
Difference between talk and action.

>>17026753
And? you said
>I haven't heard many 'conservatards' other than me wishing for the death of democrats
that would be referring to talk, not action.

>>17026759
That's your anecdote, but at least half of the country is victimized by the MSM, the media, and threats from the government on a daily basis. You need to gain some perspective

>>17026768
so you're defending wishing death on democrats while also saying you've not heard many conservatives say it


lol whatever schizo

>>17026775
You can't argue in good faith, you will keep pushing and pushing until the dam breaks and the remaining men slaughter everyone. And personally I would rather you die than survive.

>>17026786
And after they slaughter everyone a jewess will come out of a cave and start the entire process all over again

>>17025169
I don’t cook turkey often but this year and last I’ve been in charge of it because I moved in with my gf’s family during the pandemic (lol). Last year the thighs were undercooked and I’d rather avoid that embarrassment again, I bought a better meat thermometer so hopefully can avoid it. 19 lb bird, plan is
>dry brine Tuesday morning
>Thursday morning get it to room temp and slather herb butter all over and under the skin
>roast about 4 hours at 350

Any tips?

>>17027772
Cover with aluminum foil for the first 2-3 hours.

Also I'd go 300 or 325 until the final hour.

>>17027815
Cover with foil first, not when the skin is browned? Ok. I have the time and can roast longer at a lower temperature, should I increase from 4 hrs if I lower the temp? They prefer dark meat so really need to get those thighs cooked.

>>17025931
What part of that image looks Islamic to you?

>>17027939
There isn't much difference between Islamic and appalachain baptists.

>>17027950
Replace Baptist with Pentecostal and I'll mostly agree

>>17027772
Cut off the leg quarters so you can lay them flat. That way the skin on them can crisp properly and you can pull the breast out first before it gets too dry.

>>17025169
>go to store
>all meat removed its all frozen turkeys
>no time them for Thanksgiving
>still charging premium 60 c to 1.50 a pound dollars a pound for butterballs
>endcaps everywhere precooked turkey, 8.99 a pound
Fucking hell man. I thought everyone knew to buy their bird back in the summer. Hell I'm cooking one I bought last year on sale and just kept in the freezer.

>>17027894
Use your meat thermometer for final temp and exact timing, and remember the temp will continue to rise inside while resting.

>>17027989
$0.39/lbs has been pretty standard sale price in the weeks before Thanksgiving in my area for years.

>>17027966
I might try this, they don’t care much about presentation.

>>17028020
Thank you anon

>>17028290
I debone the breasts and thighs then use everything else to make a super-rich stock for gravy and soup.

non-American here, why wouldn't you just buy a fresh turkey?

>>17028467
Generally a fair bit more expensive

I can get a 20lbs frozen bird for $7. Fresh would be $30+ and for a heritage turkey could be 6x that.

>>17028501
thank you for answering me, American

>>17028467
>>17028501
American here, my local Costco didn’t have any frozen turkeys this weekend but had a bunch of fresh for the standard .99/lb. Not used to that, don’t know if I can expect a tastier turkey or not.

>>17028804
Costco in my state doesn't sell alcohol so I don't have a membership anymore. They're probably decent though.

>>17030330
That is exceptionally gay and lame. Costco liquor is one of their best deals. I’m sorry anon

>>17030717
Yup, but in my area, only county-controlled liquor stores can operate, and I'm not driving 45-60 minutes just for some slightly cheaper alcohol.


Hell, there are only 4 grocery stores that are legally allowed to sell beer/wine here and it's only because they're the only 4 grocery stores that had the proper licensing before the law changed to make it illegal for any grocery store to sell beer/wine.


But hey, we've got good schools and high property values, so that's nice.

>>17025169
>he leaves his turkey unspatchcocked
ishyggddt

>>17032114
looks dumb dude.

>>17032119
Bird's done in an hour, skin gets roasted better, more even cooking throughout, more pan drippings for gravy; cooking the bird the "traditional" way is why people think turkey sucks. I'll spatchcock any bird. Less time waiting, more time to stuff your face and pass out watching football with grandpa and dad.

>>17032128
Nobody I cook for thinks turkey sucks. But you do you no matter how dumb it is.

>>17032134
They're being nice, I guarantee they think your shit turkey sucks, numb nuts.

>>17032128
I just blew that turkey's back out

>>17025169
I bought a freshly slaughtered 21-lb turkey from a family friend who raises them.

>>17033737
Fresh birds are great when you can get them for a reasonable price

>>17025587
>>17025329
Just leave it on the counter for 4-6 hours then transfer to the fridge

>>17035148
A larger bird won't defrost that quickly, even at room temp.

Holy shit this thread is autistic

Help guys. I am defrosting my 12 lb turkey in ice water right now, but every article I'm reading says "After it’s thawed, the turkey must be cooked immediately."
Wtf, why? This is retarded bullshit, isn't it? Why can't I dry brine it after it's thawed?

Getting the last bit of shopping done today. Making lamb and turkey because we're having a few friends over and we want to do something a little different.

>>17035392
Are you retarded?

Every dry brine I've seen calls for a thawed turkey

Don't be fucking stupid

Holy shit why are people so autistic about their brine?

>>17036084
Americans are too stupid to realize the vast majority of their supermarket turkeys are prebrined.

>>17036084
Achieving culinary perfections is an autistic feat

>>17036084
>he isn't autistic about brining a turkey

I want turkey so bad, i only eat it once a year, but smelling the stuffing and bird roasting in the oven is so comfy

>>17025592
Why did you reply to this guy >>17025587
but not this guy >>17025313?

Nobody gave me a brine recipe

Guys, I bought a turkey and it says its in a solution no more than 3% water and salt. Does that mean this turkey is already brined? If so, do I put it in my own brine or say fuck it and try again for christmas?

turkey on a sandwich for lunch is nice, but thanksgiving shit hits fucking different

>>17036545
Turkey and stuffing sandwiches for days, and then I never want turkey again until next thanksgiving.

Fug Im gonna be liquor sick tomorrow and have to cook the turkey.

>>17036627
I always do as much prep as possible on Wednesday night so Thursday I can get drunk and just throw things on the stove. A holiday tradition.

>>17025897
>smoking whole turkeys for more than a decade

well, that seems a bit long, even for a whole turkey...

>>17035415
Finally got all the shopping shopping done, doing a leg of lamb and a whole turkey. Got enough alcohol because we drink even more than usual on holidays. Got a ton of eggnog, apple brandy, gin, some good beer and some blue moon for my boomer friend because it's his favorite and I got some mead for myself because why the fuck not. Gotta make everything but deserts because we bought like 5 different pies. Also got a Montecristo platinum series cigar because I like cigars when I get drunk as fuck. Can't fucking wait!

Should I season my turkey tonight or do it a few hours before the oven. I can't remember.

Got my bird spatchcocked and seasoned, stuffing totally prepped, got my garlic roux made for my mashers, and got my mushrooms cooked down for my gravy. So pretty gewd, hopefully not forgetting anything since I kind of threw everything together this year.

>>17036526
Dry brine: salt + dried herbs
Wet brine: salt + dry herbs + water
>WaLa

>turkey
Seafood is the only valid thanksgiving food

Just finished applying the rub. First time I've been allowed turkey duty, so hopefully I got it right

>>17037189
12-48 hours before is standard recommendation, I believe

R8 my brine
>water + kosher salt obviously
>veggie broth
>ground pepper
>minced garlic
>worchester sauce
>brown sugar

Would a fruit juice/saltwater blend make for a good brine? I'm asking for a friend.

>>17040881
Acid will denature the proteins before they cook, so definitely not a citrus one. Otherwise maybe, although it might be more sugar than you really want, one because of the sweetness, but two because sugar pulls out moisture same way as salt. Not sure what the right ratio would be

>>17040881
apple cider, salt, brown sugar