/ck/ - Food & Cooking

sure tranny just take a peak through the magical noose and make a long jump

heat and time i would assume.

To me that looks like a femur bone, the closest you can realistically get to that is human thigh, always knew something was up with those catgirls

Many have tried to replicate it, but none have succeeded. There's just no particular chunk of animal that matches up.

>>16933191
how about horses? they have long muscular legs

>>16933200
After it's been butchered, I don't imagine a bone-in horse hock having the same kind of proportions as manga meat. It'd probably look more like Monster Hunter meat in the end.

>>16933251
I think the only way to give it the anime meat shape is using glued meat.

>>16933191
Long pig does the trick.

Croc tail gets kinda close I guess

>>16933295
not gonna lie, those things look pretty good.

>>16933277
I just can't accept that, despite your dubs. It's the "we have McDonalds at home" tier solution to the problem. I'd rather have a problem without a solution than settle for that.

>>16933323
why? glue comes from cows and the glue goes back into the cow, it's a full circle as nature and the people's republic of china intended.

>>16933168
ham

I saw they grow them out of the ground in Digimon World. Try that.

>>16933174
I'm not a tranny, can I still use the magic noose?

>>16933334
no, you must suffer more

>>16933336
:(

>>16933168
I’m sure there is, but it’s more about what giant creature you get it from than how you cook it.

TL;dr, came here to place Flintstone pic

>>16933332
lab grown meat it's very close to become a reality for our daily needs, maybe as soon as the japs catch on it they will start growing anime meat

>>16933168
beef rib roast

>>16933344
>lab grown meat it's very close to become a reality for our daily needs
How many years have they been saying this? Last clickbait article I saw on the subject was about some guy throwing down a couple hundred dollars to try a "steak".
Labmeat is like the culinary equivalent of those Boston Dynamics robots. Everyone gets hyped at the footage of them in action and at trade shows, but it's been over a decade now and literally nobody has bought into that garbage.

>>16933343
those are very small ribs for a brontosaurus tho

>>16933191

>>/ck/image/bpoOHDqOaaL8ToxuD-Hddw

>>16933377
All the bronto dishes looked distinctly mammalian, too. Having tried alligator, I can't imagine dinosaur being anywhere close to red meat. It's just barely "veal-like" but it's way closer to a weird poultry-fish hybrid.

>>16933376
AKCHUALLY the boston dynamics robots are a huge success, at leats two of them, the robo dog and the claw thing, they can be bought and used without any problem now, and if you think about it it was a pretty fast development since those toy drones you see everywhere have been in development since the begining of the 90's and only became a real working gadget some years ago.

>>16933396
>poultry-fish
so like frog legs?

>>16933380
Bone in ribs are probably the closest

>>16933343
I always thought those looked like a picnic umbrella sort of thing more than food

>>16933406
I'll be going to france and germany next year, are frog legs any good? should I try them?

>>16933419
They're not bad. I've only had them from Chinese takeout and I can only describe them as a "poultry-fish" hybrid.
The flesh is very soft and it does not have a strong flavor, but its good at absorbing the flavor of the spices/sauce/marinade it's made in.

>>16933402
>At the end of December 2015, the BigDog project was discontinued. Despite hopes that it would one day work like a pack mule for US soldiers in the field, the gas-powered engine was deemed too noisy for use in combat. A similar project for an all-electric robot named Spot was much quieter, but could only carry 40 pounds. Both projects are no longer in progress.
HUEG SUCKSESS
I'm so glad they posted all those hype videos about them on every fucking website for years.

>>16933406
It's comparable, yeah. Reptile meat is really a class of it's own, so I kind of hate to compare it.

>>16933402
>>16933376
lab grown meat will never be cost effective
https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/
It turns out that it's hard to compete against something that costs just grass, sunlight, rainwater and waste product from agriculture to grow.

>>16933483
SpaceX uses them.

>>16933489
Here's the thing, though. They won't stop parading it around at trade shows and spewing out clickbait articles in tech news shit. It's gonna be 2030 and you'll still be hearing about labmeat being "the next thing".
Conversely, remember those "all-natural stem cell and fat culture breast implants" they were talking about? Whatever happened to that shit?

>>16933499
>meme company uses abandonware memetech for meme value
Imagine my shock. Get back to me when we're actually seeing these things outside of the silicon valley playground.

>>16933512
>meme company
um honey, they literally BTFO every other rocket company on earth. Hate on the meme twitter man all you want, but his rockets are revolutionary.

>>16933546
>Hasn't landed on the moon
>A feat accomplished by morons who couldn't even get a job in the private sector, 70 years ago
Yes yes very nice well done

Closest you could get realistically is a ham hock, you could probably prepare it to look somewhat similar to that.

>>16933563
>Hasn't landed on the moon
Because that wasn't their goal until recently. Nasa also isn't writing black cheques anymore.
also,
>went from something that could barely called a mockup to something that's basically 85% done in little over 2 years
>meanwhile every other company has their projects run decades over due and costing billions more than anticipated

>>16933377
It's not from an adult

>>16933332
Based Vegiemon poster

>>16933168
https://shokugekinosoma.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Fuse:_Brazen_Youngster-Style_Primeval_Meat

>>16933168
Wow, I've been reading the manga recently and didn't even realize that there was an anime too.

>>16933546
>>16933600
So, what are they doing with the dogs except using them in garbage promotional videos and shit? Even a meme company can produce products alongside memes.

>>16933693
inspecting stuff.
when you're doing tests you can't have humans near the launch site.

>>16933700
>memery
Yeah, I assumed as much.

>>16933419
Buy some in some supermarket,prepare them with some flour,use olive oil,parsley and garlic in a pan to cook it,enjoy,this is a good food

>>16933396
Depends on the dinosaur. It might be closer to poultry, and some poultry, like waterfowl, is more of a red meat. Though I think that flintstones pic is probably a mammoth steak.

>>16933191

>>16933546
The more I see modern "space flight," the more I find myself entertaining the idea of flat earth: the level of craziness it takes to believe either are real are quickly approaching the same tier.

>>16933168
it would have to be a limb, but cut in a very specific way.
you'd have to talk to your butcher.

>>16933396
I've always said alligator tastes like a chicken that's eaten nothing but fish it's whole life.

>>16933168
lamb shank

>>16933700
ahahahahahahaha

>>16933489
Not how they currently do it.

If you could engineer an entire animal but without the brain which you just throw roughage into and cut meat off, that would be cost effective. We just don't have the genetic engineering capabilities to do it.

>>16933693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkW9wx7Kbws

>>16934309
no way that would ever be easier than pasturing a bunch of steer

>>16933483
i know the electric one is being valued as an ai platform for regular surveillance for power plants
though why you can't teach the ai to scan 3d camera footage i don't know

>>16934309
>You will live to see man-made horrors beyond belief.

>>16933168
It's donair meat cooked formed onto a bone and cooked over a fire. Nothing all that strange.

>>16933333
Is that true?

>>16934424
Once again, this shit is a "we have mcdonalds at home" tier attempt at a substitution.

boar

>>16935291
That looks tasty

>>16935291
who could be behind this post

>>16933376
Apparently they're putting the robot dogs to work as dam inspectors in one of the Germanosphere countries

>>16935291
Monster Hunter meat. Not manga meat.

>>16935704
I fucking snorted water all over my desk

>>16933380
>>16933408
Thirding bone-in ribs. Sure you lose the cartoon bone ends, but it's real meat on a real bone and tasty as fuck.

But personally I've always preferred the western cartoon drumstick / shank / ham hock / meat club style. Like the Disney World turkey leg.

>>16933168
whole beef shank frenched
braise it

>>16933168
The easiest way would be to take ground beef, wrap it around the bone, and then cover it in bacon or caul fat and then roast or smoke it over time. That'd be easy to eat and taste just like a burger. Personally I'd go for butterflying a boston butt or similar cut, wrapping it around a bone, and then doing bacon, then caul fat, so that it cooks in its own juices. Would be super tender after being smoked for a long time.

>>16933406
Same taste, different texture, less of that nice rubber chew the legs have and more like snake. Flaky like a fish.

>>16933191
>There's just no particular chunk of animal that matches up.
Idk about that.
Looks pretty similar to a human leg.

>>16933168
Stick a long bone in beef tenderloin, it's so simple

Then you can slice the ends off after its cooked for presentation

wheres patti bike riggers

what about an elephant leg?

>>16933277
Meat glue is a dumb and tasteless concept and, unless something in the meat glue industry has changed, it's made from fish. You could approximate it with trussing, it just won't be a solid chunk of muscle. That presents opportunities to trim out any unwanted connective tissues or chunks of fat, lard it with compound butter or something, stuff it with something awesome, and add seasoning, herbs, and other flavoring ingredients throughout, though. Ballotine, roulade, what have you.

>>16935704
lmao, well posted

>>16933168
What cut is that even supposed to be and from what animal?

the real question is, why waste so much meat by cleaning the bone off so you only get the meat in the center

>>16936412
Wouldn't most of the cleaned out stuff be tendons and ligaments?

>>16936433
Tendons and ligaments are tasty when slow cooked.

>>16933419
Keep mind you will not find frog legs in most restaurants, same as snails, it's an emblematic dish but few people actually eat that on the regular so restaurants wont be arsed serving them
t. pierre

>>16933380
That meat looks great but "eating for the camera-eyeroll" is retarded.
Just eat like review bro and just sit there and chew.

>>16933174
You should take a "peak" at a dictionary, ESL-kun.

>>16933191
>There's just no particular chunk of animal that matches up.
bruh
Alternatively maybe a bear

>>16936412
So it's easier to eat it by holding the bone
Rest of the meat can go into a soup or a stew

>>16936624
I mean the gorilla/bear thigh specifically

>>16934414
more like man-made horrors beyond beef

>>16934207
Further proof that /ck/ is a brainlet board only a step above /x/.

>>16935704
based frenchie

>>16936624
Gorilla arm?

>>16934341
>easier
It doesn't have to be easier, only cheaper. And pasture land is finite.

>>16934283
I always describe it as "swampy chicken" or "swamp chicken".

>>16933168
I fucking failed this puzzle at least 4 times in danganrompa before i got it

>>16933168
Ribs are a good substitute

>>16937377
if I wanted ribs I would eat ribs.

>>16934309
Do you ever stop to think if you SHOULD do things rather than if you COULD do them?

>>16933168
maybe some minced meat with some meat chunks tightly packaged around the bone, maybe even add fatty skin around it too? dunno how hard it would be to make it

>>16936911
Thigh would fit better IMO >>16936637

>>16933174
Based

Definitely meat on a femur, or animal equivalent.

>>16933168
Meat glue

>>16933168

>>16935704
Niiiiceeeee

>>16936998
Like eel?

dinosaur ribs

>>16933343
I always thought that was a chair.

>>16933504
Stem cells ended up doing jack shit to increase breast size, it was just marketing. Fat transfer on the other hand, works quite well though most women will only ever be able to go up about a single cup size with it.

>>16936443
Pier, I've just started learning French and it just sounds like a bunch of guttural grunts to me, and none of th words are actually pronounced like they're spelled. I know latin so I thought French would be easy to pick up, buts it's all just groaning nonsense. Why is that?

>>16940395
it's kind of similar to how most english words aren't pronounced as they're written and instead pronounced as if almost every vowel was reduced. I guess it's because most of the semantic information in the language is not contained in those sounds so they're prone to corruption over time, but I'm no linguist so I could be totally off.

>>16940448
I suppose that makes sense. My brains are just having a hard time understanding the spoken word. Un sounds like Ah, garçon sounds like gason. Et is ueh. Lol its fun just makes no sense as far as phonetics and spelling are concerned.

>>16933168
this shit right here is fucking horrifying to me for some reason

>>16940375
same lol and i fucking hated the flintstones. painfully unfunny antiquated garbage FUCK!

>>16933419
they use their legs to jump record highs their entire lives... its basically one of the best meats ever...

>>16935704
Basé

>>16933406
that looks fucking good, need to finally try it

>>16933168
Veal shank, cleaned off of the joints and rotisseried. The heat of cooking will cause the meat to retract toward the middle (it will still not be a perfect cylinder, and the bone will be closer to one side than the other).

>>16941073
Smoked beef shank for comparison.

>>16935291
You could french it at the knee and the hip, but pork/boar would probably form more of a ball than a meat log.

>>16940782
We should probably try to get to the bottom of that

>>16941147
I'm not talking about the badly drawn marbling on the beef that more closely resembles some kind of spittled white mucus, rather the weird sinew that connects the bone to the badly drawn beef. I really, really want to eat that strip steak you posted anon. like now

>>16941152
If you were to cook it, you would see that marbling turn very mucous-like before your sear was complete. On something like a shank with wider veins of fat, you're going to get some translucent drippings, even after you remove it from the heat.

>>16941185
the key word here is translucent, not opaque. If you've let the beef sit for so long that the fat has solidified again, you're doing it wrong

>>16941188
Translucency is hard to ink

Always thought it's just an exaggerated Ham Hock.
They can be quite large just from pigs so I imagine from a cow or bigger the same piece of meat would match those proportions.

>>16941210
just copy paste some sweat beads from some random anime girl's ass. I'm sure they have plenty of those lying around

>>16936881
It's a weird mix here. I've probably seen both the most infantile and most stupid posts of all of 4chan on this very board but then there are alot very well adjusted posters and people that have been places that actually got interesting stuff to say.

>>16936624
We must embrace monkee

>>16941348
literally the entire point of the chins is that everyone has the same voice, no upvotes, no collation. Because of this you can get really loud voices that are full of shit, but you also can find people that know their shit too. Unfortunately if the discussion has any kind of political tint whatsoever you're likely to be flooded with either A) morons or B) literal shills. The entire internet has become a cesspool in that regard.

>>16933546
>his
FOR FUCKS SAKE
HE DID NOT INVENT THEM ALL BY HIMSELF
STOP IDOLIZING HIM IT'S REALLY FUCKING PATHETIC

>>16941656
elon musk is the typical ceo
does nothing but take credit and money

>>16941656
You still have to give credit where it belongs. You're the one acting like an autist writing in all caps.

Jeff Bezos and Blue origin started at the same time as SpaceX yet all they have is a fucking carnival ride.
The SLS is still a fucking shitshow, and soon completely obsolete.
Boeing is still fumbling with their starliner, meanwhile SpaceX has done multiple crewed missions to the ISS already.
NASA is still acting like the falcon never landed, and so are many other companies and agencies around the world
Many have tried space and failed.

I don't think Blue origin's or Boeing's engineers were any dumber than the one at SpaceX. They just weren't put to good use by shitty management.

Also, I don't think he's as ignorant about engineering as his haters make him out to be. He's just the type to throw things against the wall and see what sticks instead doing in depth calculations first. And it seems to be working.

>>16933396
I'd imagine a giant sauropod wouldn't have anything close to white meat.

>>16941074
Doesn't it fall apart though?

>>16942987
It depends on how you cook it and how well put-together the animal is, but it shouldn't - Ossobuco doesn't float away from the bone.

>>16941729
i used to think elon had to be somewhat competent in technology but he really is a midwit

>>16943243
Idea men usually are. He's been smart enough to hire people who are technologically competent, and that proves him to be smarter, luckier and richer than I am.

>>16943243
no, you're just seething. at least when it comes to rockets, he knows what he's talking about.

>>16933191 >>16935756
Bone-in ribs are indeed the original manga meat.
The trope comes from a 70s cartoon about cavemen, where it represented mammoth ribs.

>>16943288
elon is a businessman, not a scientist or an engineer. i would hope he has a basic understanding of rockets after owning a rocket company for like 20 years, but he just likes to pretend to be smart. if you hear him talk about something you're knowledgeable in you would notice it

>>16933174
why do you people have to insert transgenderism into everything

There was a recipe in a one piece book.

>>16944212
>meat wrapped egg
what the fuck

>>16945198
Hardly a revolutionary idea.

>>16945213
yeah I know about scotch eggs but if you're going for "manga meat" chucking an egg in some wrapped meat is just not gonna do it for me

>>16945216
Basically this sentiment.

>>16933380
this is the same annoying cunt as the one in the video about the "Avocado Cafe" or whatever it was.
such a punchable face.

>>16933512
US military just ordered a few thousand last month.
rival companies have basically copied the design and slapped automated gun turrets on top; remote controlled by a soldier with a playstation controller.

>>16945301
>meme departments waste money on expensive toys that will never be deployed
Oh, boy, I've heard this one before. Fucking tech show garbage.

>>16945311
nah their plan is to use them for patrolling gates/fences, boundaries, areas etc with shitty terrain and possibly landmines.
kind of like lowering a canary into a coal mine, but with a 6.5mm rifle strapped to the top.
The US military's fucking with this while China's already got swarms of 10,000 deployable armed drones.

>>16945319
>they're seriously going to do this, trust me, bro
Uh-huh. Sure thing. I'm sure someone on the food and cooking board of an anime website is intimately familiar with what world militaries are planning on doing and they're totally not just blowing money on garbage like usual.
It's gonna be just like one of those soy-fi military vidja gaems!!!

>>16933376
>>16933402
Great now a robot police dog can shoot me for being late on my rent

>>16933499
Because SpaceX is a reddit company that only stays afloat because Elon Musk's insane cult of personality makes the stock stupidly profitable for no reason

>>16933546
Any accomplishments tesla and spacex make are by exploiting young engineers desu

>>16943274
>smarter
Not at all
>luckier
By virtue of being born into a big money South African family yeah
>richer
see above

>>16933168
Pork knuckle? Just French it and should be good to go

>>16936578
>>16943341
dilate

>>16945495
anime website, seamonkey

>>16943341
Because they're OBSESSED

>>16933174
you will never get laid

>>16933684
>Meat is animal flesh that is eaten as food. Humans have hunted and killed animals for meat since prehistoric times. The advent of civilization allowed the domestication of animals such as chickens, sheep, rabbits, pigs and cattle. This eventually led to their use in meat production on an industrial scale with the aid of slaughterhouses.[2]
Thank goodness this anime wiki has taught me this invaluable knowledge

>>16939261
ma nuga

>>16946607
Dude if you ever want a fun time look at the wikipedia page for an incredibly mundane and basic human concept like happiness or hunger. It sounds like it was written by an alien or interdimensional being:
>Hunger and satiety are sensations. Hunger motivates the consumption of food. Satiety is the absence of hunger; it is the sensation of feeling full.
>Appetite is another sensation experienced with eating; it is the desire to eat food

>>16949052
I mean, I understand to an extent that that's the job of an encyclopedia. I just think it's absurd that the shokugeki no soma wiki feels the need to define meat

>>16949529
People might complain about how 4kids vandalized the franchises they licensed, but the soul they put into making up new openings with completely new songs made for amazing kino. Nowadays dub companies just leave in the original Jap songs because the target audience is now weaboos instead of 12-year-olds.

Nothing can beat the opening they did for Kinnikuman 2nd Gen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRwJvOm395E

>>16949558
Both openings for Kinnikuman Nisei are perfect and accurate, they represent different aspects of the show

>>16949479
>>16949490
Read Iron Wok Jan.

>>16933168
They explain how in the food wars episode.

>>16933343
>I’m sure there is, but it’s more about what giant creature you get it from than how you cook it.
Giraffe

>>16946607
It actually is a pretty good anime in terms of cooking. I tried a few of the dishes on there and they are pretty good. Also teaches you some cooking knowledge and history. Kinda hate the "foodgasms" though. Way too overdone.

>>16949479
For me, it's Fighting Foodons, specifically the 4kids dub. The best cooking anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LbWWx80ZPA

>>16949490
What an amazing intro.

>>16933168
THE MEAT ON BONE
BONE ON THE MEAT
THE BONE ON MEAT
ON THE BONE MEAT

>>16933499
NIGGER
NIGGER
NIGGER

SHUT UP
BITCH

>>16933489
>it's hard to compete against something that costs just grass, sunlight, rainwater and waste product from agriculture to grow
>just
Livestock are horrifically expensive, retardanon. Animal protein requires several times as much energy to get the same amount of calories as plant protein. Livestock is the leading consumer of water in the US. It's one of the most inefficient ways possible to get food.

>>16949928
>Livestock are horrifically expensive
But still a lot cheaper than lab meats will ever be. Which was my argument.

>requires several times as much energy to get the same amount of calories as plant protein
This it the problem which you people. Not all protein are the same. Not all fats are the same. Not all carbs are the same.
And yes, these matter. Although the guidelines have not, the nutrition science from the 70s has advanced a lot.
And animal products are rich in various kinds of micronutritions not commonly found in plants.

>Livestock is the leading consumer of water in the US.
it's just fucking rainwater. it will rain regardless of whether there are cows on the land or not.
Farmers pumps up groundwater -> it rains -> groundwater gets replenished.
This is only a problem in arid regions where it doesn't rain enough to replenish ground water reserves.
In fact agriculture is a LOT worse for groundwater. And I do mean A LOT. Agriculture destroys the soil, which makes it harder for the ground to absorb the water. As a result the ground water does not get replenished.


If you want to go vegan that's fine. but don't let your ideology cloud your ability to see the science. Food is more than just "calories" anon.
Also animals provide other products such as wool and leather.

>>16933546
>donated by nasa

>>16950037
NASA can't even get their own rockets to work.
In fact NASA really doesn't do rockets anymore. And they haven't for some time. They just commission it.

>>16945774
And you will die alone.

>>16933684
Looks like a turd in the anime.

>>16949479
>It actually is a pretty good anime in terms of cooking
It is for the first 3 seasons, season 4 starts to go off the rails with the food yakuza and season 5 goes full eyeshield 21 batshit crazy

>>16949928
>Livestock is the leading consumer of water in the US.
Not remotely true. Irrigating crops consumes nearly 60X as much water as all forms of livestock combined.

It's weird they would "invent" a new meat instead of just drawing a ham drumstick.

>>16951164

>>16951168
this is an awful way to display this data, holy shit

>>16951124
>Season 1: using stock, incorporating spices, neat cooking facts you can use in your own kitchen, dont mix squid and peanut butter
>Season 2: What exactly is 'fine dining' and how can you do it in your own home? How creative can you get and still make good food?
>Season 3: restaurant management, cooking as a profession, beach episode
>Season 4: The Food Yakuza is going to shut down all restaurants without at least one michelin star unless our plucky underdogs are able to win a rigged cooking tournament
>Season 5: Having saved the diners and fast food joints of Japan, our heroes go off to take the fight directly to the seedy underbelly of food crime joining a cooking tournament that culminates in the dark clone of our main hero using magic literal fucking magic to steal the techniques of hundreds of chefs

>>16933174

>>16933168
>>16933191
the closest thing is a pork shank but a meaty enough bone-in short rib would also work

>>16951239
>The Food Yakuza
they were food communists

>>16951239
ffs dvds stopped at season 2 in australia, ill have to sail the seas if i want to get back into it

>>16949989
>animal products are rich in various kinds of micronutritions not commonly found in plants
I can think of a handful. Taurine is not found in plants, but the body can synthesize it from other amino acids anyway. Vitamin B12, but plant foods can be easily fortified with it. Iron is harder to get, though not impossible. I don't think there's a single nutrient that can only be found in animal products, except maybe taurine.
>it's just fucking rainwater
And what's that rainwater used for, anon? We have a limited amount. Making one pound of beef uses like 15 times the amount of water as that used to make corn and soybeans.
>If you want to go vegan that's fine
I am not vegan, and I don't know why you're randomly assuming that. I just acknowledge that animal agriculture is an inefficient use of resources.
>>16951164
And what are those irrigated crops used for? Do you have any idea how much food livestock consumes? Which do you think is more efficient, eating a pig that ate hundreds or thousands of pounds of produce, or just eating hundreds or thousands of pounds of produce?

>>16952571
>I don't think there's a single nutrient that can only be found in animal products,
considering how absolute shit nutrition science is, how nutrition guidelines are driven by corporations and political agendas, I'd rather look at the human diet from cultures around the world over the last 1000 years, minus the last 100 years, and base my diet on that. All healthy ones had at least some animal product in their diet, even if they didn't eat meat they diary and eggs.
Even if we assume all nutrition science is done in good faith, considering the complexity of the human body, it's hard to tell how much we know is right or wrong and how much we we're still missing. Like we're only just discovering about the connection between the gut microbiome and the brain.
I'm not willing to take that risk and drop animal foods.

>We have a limited amount
Depends on the region. Most would be left unused of not for the cows nearby. And it's replenished by the rain.

>irrigated crops used for
making soy and corn oil for human consumption. Also the majority of US corn is used to make ethanol to add to gasoline.
What cattle gets it the waste product from making those. And they don't even need that, most cattle eats grass and hay in the winter for most of their life except for the 2 weeks before they're slaughtered to fatten them up.

>Which do you think is more efficient
if efficieny is everything then you might as well drink sludge for the rest of your life.

>>16952571
You know rain water falls all over the place so really they should base the number of L of water on how much must be pumped in from a different area not rain water.
The other thing is theirs a eco system that relies on cow shit for fertiliser because man made fertiliser is not energy effective to produce.
The other thing is cow and life stock digest different food than humans.
So you like almonds and corn and basically every vegetable but you only really eat a single part like the ear of corn.
Well the rest of the plant is sent to cows and eaten by them in winter when grass is not easily available and they eat it shit it out and grow the grass and make fertiliser for the corn.
Meat is not inefficient it highly efficient when you zoom out and see how much of the vegetable we grow for food is undigestsable by humans but great sources of food for live stock that will turn into more food.

>>16949158
>I just think it's absurd that the shokugeki no soma wiki feels the need to define meat
You should see the autism of wookiepedia
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hair
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Shoelace
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>>16952741
You can get some great giggles out of the articles on "Gender" on certain fan wikis. Sometimes you can even see where massive edit wars have gone down over the tiniest bit of phrasing.

>>16952659
>considering how absolute shit nutrition science is, how nutrition guidelines are driven by corporations and political agendas
Nutrition science =/= nutrition guidelines, and you have a very childish understanding of science if you think that.
>I'd rather look at the human diet from cultures around the world over the last 1000 years
Ah yes, "these retards from centuries ago did it so it must be good" is a much better system than modern science. Also doesn't even consider technological and economic advancement.
>I'm not willing to take that risk and drop animal foods
Okay. Then don't.
>majority of US corn is used to make ethanol to add to gasoline
Which is cringe.
>most cattle eats grass and hay in the winter for most of their life
Yes, cattle primarily eat things inedible to humans. Pigs and chickens don't, however. That's why I mentioned pigs.
>>16952710
>they should base the number of L of water on how much must be pumped in from a different area not rain water
No. Because rain water that is used where it falls could have itself been collected and pumped elsewhere.
>cow and life stock digest different food than humans
Depends on the animal. Cattle do, but most of the food eaten by pigs and chicken could be eaten by humans as well. Your knowledge of this subject is very superficial.

>>16952826
So what's the plan for all the plant waste now its not gonna be used as cattle feed?
Is it gonna be burnt to power the power plants or turned into vegan bedding?

>>16933313
Croc meat is really good, yeah.

Food is always drawn weird in anime. It's like the Japanese have no idea what actual food looks like. I've always found it strange. I mean I get they can't afford steaks, but damn, even fruit and veg look like alien spores or some shit.

>>16951353
just torrent them dumbass
but stop at season 3 so you don't have to suffer through back to back tournament arcs
i never thought I would see that shit in a cooking anime

>>16941656
He was the chief engineer on falcon 1 because nobody good would join the company

He's also the chief engineer on starship.

He's not the smartest person at spacex by far, but he has to decide which smart person is right. You probably think running a rocket company is like pic related. Elon is a great manager, period.

>>16933174
It's literally just long pig. How retarded are you to not know that.

>>16952826
there's some merit to the naturalistic argument. It's a very strong prior of "this works". You need quite a bit of model confidence in your scientific alternative to be able to say an alternative also works as well. Environmental sciences have a lot of examples where this hubris of "we can improve things with science" can lead to quite unfortunate problems.

> rain water that is used where it falls could have itself been collected and pumped elsewhere.
rain is so fucking fungible lmao

The human thigh seems like it'd make a good fit, not that I'm a cannibal or something haha

>>16945362
SpaceX isn't public and you have no idea how to valuate a company

>>16945364
>exploiting
If paying people to work towards their dream goal is exploitation then I have no idea what isn't. What young engineer doesn't want to work for spacex

>>16933174
Tranime website faggot

>>16945362
are you retarded? SpeceX is rolling in NASA and Space Force cash

>>16951164
Most crops are fed to livestock, the percentage of livestock fed on just grass is negligible

>>16954083
“Sail the seas” is a euphemism for piracy, anon (or “just torrent them”, to use your words). Learn wordplay.
Though you could just use an Adblock and watch it on the shit legal anime sites. They have it up there for free, and it’s slightly faster to deal with.

>>16945319
6.5? suuuureeee buddy.
Unless you meant 6.8, AND ommited an explanatory paragraph clarifying the high likelihood of the NGSW program being more conservative in outcome than total calibre change, then you just committed the gravest sin; chatting shit on a Tibetan noodle fencing forum