/ck/ - Food & Cooking

coffee is good for you

>>16900332
>moderate consumption

... Yes Moderate consumption of a literally anything is good for you.

>>16900394
>Why yes, I moderately consume crack and crystal meth, how could you tell

>>16900394
Moderately consume cyanide

I like coffee

>>16900408
Moderate amphetamine use was one of the greatest performance enhancers of the early 20th century. It saw widespread use by a number of armed forces around the globe. The problem was that it was far too easy for the average rank and file soldier to overuse it and otherwise become a chronic abuser of the drug.

Reminder that real men drink their coffee black. If you use sugar or creamer then you're a faggot.

I've been cutting down on the caffeine, myself.

>>16900452
What if you’re an fagote who drinks black coffee? Are you an honorary straight?

>>16900452
I am a faggot. I like cream no sugar.

>>16900610
Yes.
>>16900452
true.

>>16900452
>real men drink their coffee black. If you use sugar or creamer

i've never understood this argument lol, with real sugar and creamer you're looking at a -60 calorie treat that's extremely tasty. even less calories if you're using fake sweetener

>>16900439
if moderate consumption leads to higher consumpion then its not good for you
inb4 but but slippery slope is a fallacy
no its not

>>16900415
... eating apple seeds?

>>16900332
Increased intraocular pressure is generally a bad thing.

>>16900332
>terrible for your kidneys

>>16900888
it goes away after the effect of caffeine wears off

>>16900902
[citation needed]

>>16900452
Real men don't care about how others drink their coffee.

>>16900452
>real men caring about trivial nonsense
ha

>>16900394
>>16900439
>dude moderation lmao
shut the fuck up reddit

>>16900394
moderately consume my nut ya bih

>>16900452
>put sugar in coffee
>its still black
now what faggit ?

I need to drink more coffee, nowadays

>>16900332
I quit coffee after my best friend died..

>>16900552
I think she might have breast cancer

>>16900436
okay what is this dogshit title i keep hearing about. This is almost like squid game its everywhere in my face and it got no business nor right to be there. Can you elaborate in your own words what this title is and why i keep seeing mentions of it ?
>the weeb cutie that it didnt work out with was fond of this shite
i do got a little bias there i admit

>>16901343
chink phone gacha game with flashy production

>>16900698
>less calories
Fewer, ya dingus.

>>16901371
Appreciate the quick response. I knew my gut reaction to this crap was warranted. Makes me wanna throw up a bit. This ugly garbage has no right to insult my eyeas like that, the design is horrible and to just think there is the real hammer shit out there like taimanin makes me even more furious, so the good shit doesnt get screen time but the normie garbage does haha no. I am a little angry here. Saw a iirc playstation card with that crap on it at my local grocery store. I felt violated

>>16901550
>>16901343
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

>>16900332
i dont like the idea of needing a cup of coffee to feel awake in the morning so I just dont drink it. Plus I hate the taste and it barely makes me feel anything.

>>16900724
Simply exercise some presence of mind and only drink 1 cup a day. Works for me, 4 years now and never a 2nd cup. I think it helps to fully wake up before you brew

>>16900339

Hey I live near there. Fuckin' Boulder. Nice tits too.

>>16901276

>>16900394
>drinks a moderate amount of all weather deck sealant

>>16900452
>doesn't like cappuccinos
kys

>>16900339
Ugly face and shit . People have really low standard these days

>>16900394
Ahhh time to moderately consume some death cap mushroom

>>16900452
Then why do I drink my coffee black?

>>16902527
Kys faggot

>>16900415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Y2NicWW2o

>>16900439
nooooo only hitler took those drugs ahahaha shhhhh don't tell them ahahahaha it was only him ahahaha shhhhshh

>>16900339
I like her boulder mountains if you know what i'm saying

>tfw caffeine gives me similar effects to when my adhd meds kick in

>>16902527
>being this gay
Do Euromutts really...?

>>16902889
That's because your adhd meds are literally amphetamines you junky.

>>16900332
>Enlightenment started right at the time coffee was introduced to Europe
Coincidence? I think not.

>>16900332
I have no tolerance for caffeine anymore. One can of Dr. Pepper is enough to make me agitated and twitchy all day, and I end up scratching and picking at my face and scalp.

>>16900339
She's so cute.

>>16900332
One cup in the morning. Maybe a second one but before 6 PM... otherwise falling asleep will be shitty. This is the perfect amount to consume and the dependency you create with this is easy to manage.

>>16900452
i only put shit in my coffee if its shit coffee. nothing nice about drinking a cup of black keurig bean soup

>>16900332
I don't want to get to the point where I can't function without a cup of coffee or two, I know people like this and it looks like a shitty existence.

>>16904331
For me the optimal seems to 1,5 cups in the morning, 1 cup 4-6 pm. Maybe one extra cup if I'm feeling crazy or very tired.

>>16900452
Total true. Only faggots drink super sugary coffee with creams and shit

I always got relaxed when I had coffee
Then I found out that was a symptom of ADHD when I got diagnosed years later

>>16904347
This bad boy right here is my machine. Can recommend it if you are the lazy since you can use anything pre-powdered with it and its very easy to keep clean. I programmed it so that it pumps more water until the cup I use is filled nicely. I think the espresso powder I use is rather strong... so I would guess it equals about 1,5 cups of normal coffee.

>>16904391
Nice. I was just looking espresso machines earlier this week. Don't have one at least yet. DeLonghis seemed good and not too expensive. I make drip coffee now but it tastes bad sometimes even though the coffee is good.

>>16900408
Funny you mention crystal meth, the nazis literally invented that shit and took over half of Europe.

>>16900332
kys addict
>>16900339
What does she smell like?

>>16904362
only faggots care about what others drink
>durr I drink muh productivity juice bitter like it's meant to be
you people are so emotionally stunted

>>16904404
The stuff I make with this is really nice... I even get crema. Some snobbish people could say you shouldn't delute/brew espresso with more water... but I know in austria for example they like to drink "ein verlägerten" "a longer one" which essentially is the same.

>>16901384
>he doesn't weigh it out to the grain
ngmi

>>16902925
is coffee amphetamines too?

>>16902939
so you're saying caffeine was a big mistake?

>>16904467
they're both stimulants.

>>16901768
me too. i hope we never meet

>>16901768
>>16905116
Both of you two are liars. If you really lived there you'd know it's called Boulder Fountain, not Boulder Mountain

>>16905143
nah, we're not liars. just retarded

>>16901290
Based dead rat poster

>>16900452
brb putting heavy whipping cream and honey in my coffee

>>16904379
Caffeine use to work for me but now that my gf broke up with me I had to develop emotional discipline to not spiral into despair and caffeine makes me too anxious to slow my thoughts down along with using too much energy at once and not being able to sleep. I love the mental clarity for the first couple of hours though.

>>16900332
I've heard coffee's benefits but can't get it to become a habit. I think tea also has some caffeine so maybe my endless stream of tea consumption does the same thing. I literally only drink tea. No cigars, no alcohol, no coffee.

>>16900339
What an ugly fucking cunt

>>16900339
>>16903062

>wake up in a daze from drinking last night
>stumble to the coffee maker half asleep with a pounding headache
>can't be bothered to wait for the pot to fill with water so I make a half pot
>pour coffee from the bag
>forgot the filter
>use a wet paper towel to clean up most of the grounds
>pour coffee in now with a filter
>pour too much and it fills 3/4 of the way
>fuck it
>get impatient and pour a cup just when enough is made
>it tastes like black tar
>within two minutes I'm barely containing a massive explosive shit
>feel burning in my stomach and end up vomiting on the front porch as I smoked my cigarette
>dog eats the vomit so I don't have to clean it, nice
>dilute the rest of the coffee with water
>enjoy the sunrise then drive to work

>>16902527
fax

>>16900332
IDK man it's like smoking for me, just an annoying habit i have to tend to every fucking day just to get out of bed. Not worth it.

>>16901384
Nigga that’s the same thing

>>16905699
that's how i make my coffee normally. Tar chads rise up

as long as you arent dependent on it and use it as a replacement for sleep coffee is fine for you

>>16901258
>>16900921
Its not caring, its simply a statement of fact.

>>16900452
>real men
lmao

>>16900452
>real men
I can tell that you're a ftm tranny

>>16907500
What

Literally 99/100 people don't understand drugs. Caffeine is a xenobiotic and its a stimulant to boot. It makes your organs work harder which means more stress which means you die sooner. Its impossible for anything otherwise to be the case. I would ask one of you to debate me but none of you can, you're just as clueless as /fit/ is about bodybuilding, except maybe those on the steroid threads.

>>16908045
All drugs are xenobiotic, what's the point saying coffee is one

>>16908071
In healthy people, drugs/xenobiotics are all harmful.

>>16908045
Ok, retard.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31055709/
>Coffee consumption has been associated with decreased mortality in previous studies. As aging, obesity, and lifestyle factors affect the risk of mortality, the association between coffee and mortality needs to be examined in various subpopulations by characteristics of subjects. To quantitatively assess this association, we conducted an updated meta-analysis including stratified analyses by potential modifiers. We searched in the PubMed and Web of Science databases through March 8, 2019, and conducted meta-analysis including linear and non-linear dose-response analyses. We identified 40 studies including 3,852,651 subjects and 450,256 all-cause and cause-specific deaths. Non-linear inverse associations between coffee consumption and mortality from all-causes, cardiovascular disease (CVD), and cancers were found. The lowest relative risk (RR) was at intakes of 3.5 cups/day for all-cause mortality (RR = 0.85, 95% CI 0.82-0.89), 2.5 cups/day for CVD mortality (RR = 0.83, 95% CI 0.80-0.87), and 2 cups/day for cancer mortality (RR = 0.96, 95% CI 0.94-0.99), while additional intakes were not associated with further lower mortality. An inverse association between coffee consumption and all-cause mortality was maintained irrespective of age, overweight status, alcohol drinking, smoking status, and caffeine content of coffee. By region, Europe and Asia showed stronger inverse associations than US. A non-linear inverse association was found for mortality from respiratory disease and diabetes, while linear inverse association was found for mortality from non-CVD, non-cancer causes. Moderate coffee consumption (e.g. 2-4 cups/day) was associated with reduced all-cause and cause-specific mortality, compared to no coffee consumption. The inverse association between coffee and all-cause mortality was consistent by potential modifiers except region.

>>16908124
That's not true at all

i lvoe cobbee frens

>>16908130
Explain to me how a stimulant can increase lifespan.

Otherwise, it's possible that there are substances which can increase lifespan, but these can only work in either unhealthy people, OR if they are in unhealthy people they must have other negative effects.

>>16908132
Its completely true, there is no substance on Earth which is non-harmful to the body.

Allopathic medicine is founded on the notion that (toxic) substances are used to counteract the effects of illness or disease. Gradually Western medicine has pushed the notion that it's possible that there are drugs which can be only beneficial and never non-harmful. Which is why almost none of you cunts understand why caffeine is bad even though the truth is right in front of you - think about what it does to your heart rate, GI system etc

>>16908165
Yeah all these allopathic medicines are sure toxic and bad for you and that's why as we've grown to use them exponentially more than we used to, our life expectancy has completely gone down
Wait no it's actually that expectancy has dramatically increased since then. Hmm

>>16908165
Why don't you bother proving that coffee is bad for healthy people first?

>>16908169
Indigenous peoples who eat humans natural diet can live up to 150 or more. You've taken the pharma-bait hook line and sinker, you think that its normal for people to drop dead at 70.

>>16908173
I already did. Anything that makes your body work harder is bad for you, with very few exceptions, like minor exercise.

>>16908187
Name one example. Just one. A credible, examined source of an indigenous people eating a natural diet living over 150 years. Please.

Why are you all so obsessed with health and nutrition? You're on fucking 4chan, what do you have to live for that's worth this kind of effort?

>>16908187
You didn't prove anything, making a claim doesn't constitute proof. Post a reliable study or meta-study that shows coffee affects healthy people negatively.
Should be pretty easy considering the vast amounts of research on coffee consumption and health outcomes.

>>16900394
>literally anything
like uranium?

>>16908187
>Indigenous peoples who eat humans natural diet can live up to 150 or more
That I'd like to see.

>>16900452
someone on a jobsite commented on me putting milk in my coffee and everyone else kinda just looked at him weird. i wanted to hurt the fucker but i knew it's best if you leave dumbfucks like that alone but damn i hate this retard mentality like get a grip bud

>>16908191
>>16908196
Big Pharma et al suppresses this info

>>16908193
Do you have anything to say about what I've said?

>>16908200
No they don't

>>16905699
lol relatable

The obsession with living longer is childish and cowardly. Life past your 60s is miserable, why do you want to extend that?

>>16908266
So you can guide your grandchildren with your wisdom. But shit if I was being honest I wouldn't mind taking a shot to just kill me in my sleep and then just rest before i turn into a disabled person.

>>16900332
so is your thread weirdo

>>16900452
>my masculinity is tied to drinking liquid shit
Sorry about that that cock size bro, maybe you'll have better luck next life!

>>16908403
>liquid shit
?

>>16908403
projecting this hard

>>16901283
I would beat the shit out of her bf and rape her until my dick stops working

>>16908266
60s? I know 60-80 year olds running marathons. Sure, they’re performance is decreasing. But they’re able to have fun with their grandchildren and great grandchildren, and extend their time with loved ones. If you eat a healthy diet of mostly plants, very seldom refined sugars or oils, are physically active, and don’t be fat, you will be fine in old age, with healthy cognition and energy. Even able to backpack out on a hunting trip with your son and grandson in your 60s, carrying your own gear.

>>16908407
If you enjoy black coffee your tastebuds are burnt out.
>>16908410
No u

>>16904467
As somebody else with ADHD, I promise you we're not all this retarded.

>>16908200
Take your meds retard.

>>16908130
>coffee is...LE MAGIC POTION

>>16908427
>I know 2% of that segment who doesn't have health problems
yeah just ignore the 98%

>>16908045
how do you explain italian and greek men who spend all day drinking espresso and arguing with their friends while living to be 95

>>16908483
They make up the majority of the town’s old folk where I grew up. May be a genetic thing, so bad if you’re a genelet.

>>16905699
literally me

>>16902527
She looks very Irish
t. Dublin fag

>>16900339

>>16908461
Bit ironic using that as an insult

>>16908169
Your comment triggers me, do you know nothing of e.g. Weston Price? The West is the most toxic place on the planet right now. The elite want you to think that dropping dead at 65 or 70 after 20 years of ill health is the norm.

>>16908483
Nigger, most elderly cunts I see around who aren't fat/alholics/smokers or some combination of those is kicking around fine. I have neighbors in their seventies who live active lives who no chronic desease, care for their garden, go to church, get visited by their relatives and friends...
Just because you already hate your life in your twenties doesn't mean that everyone must be miserable at all times, especially old age

Is coffee good for you?

>>16908427
quick tell me a good diet I can eat of mostly plants

>>16900332
>headache when you don’t have one

>>16904411
>>16900439
and then lost the war lol, just like trump lost the election

>>16902527
>>16905552
>>16905560
>>16908602

>work out
>cause actual, measurable damage to my body in the form of micro tears in my muscles
No way this could be good for me, look at the negative effects

>>16900339
>tfw no big milker gf to go hiking with to cook me food on the trail

>>16905371
Tea is alright once in awhile, I never heard of tea addicts before, and people don't stop functioning like a battery less robot without it, so tea is way better in my opinion

>>16900452
Black coffee is only any good if you have good beans and a grinding mill and a french press and you know the right techniques
I actually prefer black but not a person on earth does it right, go anywhere and get a cup of it and they fuck it up beyond repair

>>16900332
The benefits are from copper. Just eat other copper rich food.

>>16900452
Pathetic. I bet you get self-concious about drinking sweet alcohol because it's considered "girly".

>>16910870
why?

>>16902527
She has a cute face, you uncultured swine.

>>16905699
>>16905776
>>16908256
>>16908593
Why the fuck are you guys using a coffee maker?

>>16900452
You're not a faggot if you dont drink it black you just have bad taste. Once I started drinking it straight I literally can't go back now. When I try to drink the coffee my dad makes I cant swallow it with the fucking brown sugar in it. It's gross now. You only really see it once you start though.

>>16908266
Survival instinct. When you're young, it's easy enough to see old people whose bodies are in decay and say, "Man, I hope I die before I reach that point," but try saying it when you're actually old.

>>16909850
Lifting makes you stronger but also reduces your lifespan, yes. It's a tradeoff.

>>16911255
That's exactly why you don't live healthy. I may lose my nerve, but cirrhosis won't.

>>16900452
>creamer
Is milk not available in merica?

>>16911345
hey, whoa, no natural foods please

>>16910488
>I never heard of tea addicts before
russians, unironically

>4chan is bad for you

>>16908487
they drink just enough wine to balance it out

>>16902889
Stimulants usually stimulate you you dumbass.
If you have adhd or ads stims have the opposite effect and they calm you down and make you sleepy.
This is a very good test for if you have it, I have ADS and coffee makes me very tired (because stimulants bind to some receptors in the brain that are usually constantly firing and then they get shut down for a while)

>>16910991
It has something to do with coper getting rid of excess iron.
https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/iron-dangers.shtml

>>16912358
Stimulants don't have the opposite effect on people with ADHD, they have the same effect but it compensates for a deficiency they have. t. adhd
I don't know what ADS is but some people do get sleepy from coffee/caffeine, specifically. Other stimulants wouldn't make you sleepy, probably.

>>16908448
>If you enjoy black coffee your tastebuds are burnt out.
Says who? Some seething toddler-palated dork?

>>16912497
i also have adhd and stimulants make me extremely focused, relaxed, and yes i can even nap on them. stimulants do seem to have the opposite effect in people with adhd, whether it's because they compensate for a deficiency or not.

>>16900452
i dont drink any of these stims, i drink hot chocolate with whipped cream on top.

>>16912497
This anon has it right. I've had a full neuropsych eval and have been on ADHD meds since I was 11 (32 now). They never had the opposite effect, but I remember hearing this myth peddled.

>>16914116
Is it a myth if it's experienced by someone? Cause I have diagnosed ADHD and it has that effect on me. Ups my focus, relaxes me, but doesn't give me energy. Does suppress tiredness, but not in a "i'm wide awake" way, just a "i'm not gonna fall asleep now"

>>16914190
I can take naps on it too dude but it ups focus for everyone, absolutely everyone. It relaxes you and relaxes me because we have """adhd""" but that alone is far from "having the opposite effect". It's different in some ways but otherwise the same as what other people experience. The myth is that it's completely different, which is obviously false.

>>16900408
Dr. Carl Hart does that with heroin.

>>16905699
Fucking degenerate

>>16900339
Need a milk truck like this

>>16916026
Purist moralfag