/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16842075
why is islay single malt such a thing to you?
pleb
Peat smoke was something the smart Irish figured out how not to get into their whisky. They heated the barley from underneath the floor, using Roman bath style flooring.
Immature palates like a bunch taint of smoke and the flavor of muddy peat in their mouth.

>>16842125
dont know mate, this is just the most pleasing picture I've came across. I'd better post this one

>>16842125
and yer a wee wrong about the history. it was a wee different.

>>16842075
I'm going to buy a bottle of laphroaig 10 and a bottle of Talisker 10. I think I'm ready for it.

>>16842075
Had scotch for the first time yesterday. Drank some Lagavulin 16 year and Aberlour 12 year. Prefer the Aberlour over the Lagavulin.

>>16842075
Old thompson. Evan williams if im splurging.

>>16842125
>wHy YoU nO bUy Macallan RRREEEEEEEE?!
because fuck you, thats why.

>>16842075
I haven't had scotch in years but I love me a good Irish Whiskey, picrel is what I would replace my blood with if medically possible.

I finally took the Obanpill. Holy shit, dat flowery honey. Heavenly.
$60 at Costco.

>>16842607
nice mask, reminded me of the 3 Ninjas

>>16842607
>no gun or dragon dildo in the background
You had one job, anon.

>>16842607
god i fucking love redbreast, single pot stills are some of my faves

>when the bottle states "reserve"

>>16843564
>when the bottle is a NAS

>>16842874
Thanks anon, I was a huge weeb even as a kid and my parents got it for me from a Japanese specialty shop that used to be in the area

>>16842877
Dubs of truth, ya got me bud. My gun is in my closet and my ass just got too stretched out for the dildo so I gave it away.

>>16843145
Red breaat is one of the few I haven't tried yet, it's a little pricey but not too out of my price range for when I want to treat myself. Maybe I'll pick one up next time because it's right next to my Tully on the shelf

>>16842075
>being a snob about whisky
I remember being 22

>>16842874
>>16843916
Forgot pic. Nose has been scraped for about 16 years because some fat fuck my mom would babysit when I was little wanted to play with my mask then dropped it on our tile floor

>>16843973
Nice art on the left, fren. Whats that?

>>16843991
A painting a friend had made for me, it took her almost a year to make it

>>16844165
great painting! shake her right titty for me.

>>16844174
Will do buddy

>>16844312
btw if you like Irish whiskeys go for Bushmills. even cheapest (oroginal, black) are better than this one>>16842607 and single malts are on the same lvl with really good Spayside scotches but with the same unique Irish whiskey signature taste and flavore.

>>16844333
Yeah I love bushmills, the black bush reminds of of JW black for half the price

>>16844165
Very nice

>>16842075
FOOD BOARD. THIS IS A DRINK, NOT FOOD. MODS???

>>16844552
shut up bitch

>>16844552
shut up, bitch

>>16844552
shut up bitch

>>16844559
>>16844620
>>16844726
No. You can repost on the drink board.

>>16845330
shut up, bitch

>puts caramel coloring in their whiskey so it doesn't look like water
Do Britfags REALLY?

>>16842075
Obvious scocht marketing thread

>>16842075
>Why?
See pic, OP.

what are some smooth whiskeys for beginner /alc/s? I've had a good experience with Bulleit and Buffalo Trace so far.

>>16846704

>>16846716
you mean bourbon?

>move to an ABC state
>mfw the god awful selection

>>16846716
Auchentoshan

>>16846826
Haha that sucks man

>tfw sinus infection
Is it still safe to drink anything right now? I kind of want to pop open a bottle of Old Grand Dad 114.

>>16846716
Glenfiddich 12

>>16846911
one of the best movies ever
>>16846716
Glenmorangie 10

>>16846911
oughta clear up any sniffles

Just made a whiskey sour, what did I think of it?

>>16847387
picrel

>>16842607
>Tully
based
>>16844333
I will try Bushmills, but I will never stop buying Tully.

>>16847414
good foam, looks nice, anon

>>16846716
When you're ready for higher ABV, hit Old Forester 1920

Got the newly released Compass Box "Orchard House" yesterday, will be cracking it later on while watching large men being paid millions of dollars give each other brain damage.

>>16848479
Nice I can't decide between orchard house and spice tree.

>>16842571
>Prefer the Aberlour over the Lagavulin.

Old Forester 1910 or 1920?

>>16850154

>>16846716
This crap is smooth, at least. It's perfect for a beginner.

>at total wine
>customer in front of me puts some whiskey on the counter
>cashier says "oh that's smooth"

>>16842075
Bourbon has a significant price advantage in the US, and it has a significant flavor disadvantage overseas since none of America's bourbon laws are applicable to exports and they lower the abv anyway because there are more American drinkers so their reputations remains intact.

>>16842125
Connemara. For that matter there is peated American and world whisky.

>>16843566
You know these days that probably means it's a world whisky or a high end special release.

>>16844333
>but with the same unique Irish whiskey signature taste and flavor
I reckon they're generally lighter / more generically whisky flavored than Speysiders, but with a more oily / waxy texture. Which is an overall loss, we were already critiquing the Speysiders for their lack of intensity and distinctness.

>>16848742
Spice tree is fantastic. Very wood forward in a non bourbon kind of way. Go for it unless that anon comes back with a glowing review.

I got memed into buying pic related (tip: don't), but in trying to figure out how to use it I just realized it actually makes a pretty darn good old fashioned. I don't think I like it enough to buy another bottle once this one is done, but yeah, this is good.

>>16851161
>I got memed into buying pic related (tip: don't)
That goes for basically any "japanese" whiskey at this point.

>>16851195
I'm a fucking weeb on a lot of things, but I will never recommend Jp whisky to anyone until they get their price/value issues figured out.

>>16851195
Japanese single malt is good. Just way way over priced. For te same price as a basic Japanese single malt (IE Yamazaki 12) you can get 2 or 3 bottles of Scotch that taste similar or better.

>>16851195
Nip whiskeys aren't bad, just overpriced for what they are. Some people feel ripped off when they find out they're buying a blend from Europe and not the finest glorious nippon whiskey folded over 1000 times, but as long as you're being an informed consumer there's not going to be an issue.

Tried Silkie on a whim. Was pretty good. The version I had was slightly peated too, interesting take on a style that tends to be very same-y at times.

>>16851226
>Japanese single malt is good
Because it's just Single Malt Scotch relabeled as Japanese Single Malt since there are zero laws against that in Japan.
I doubt there is really any actual Japanese Single malt coming into the US anymore, their supply ran out a few years ago.

>>16851161
Tried this or coffey malt on Friday and it was the best of 5

Anything hitting similar from dear Scotland?

>>16851250
I was under the impression that Suntory single malts were distilled, aged, and bottled in Japan. Is this wrong? Do you have any links explaining?

>>16851281
They have absolutely no legal obligation to tell you the truth about where it's from.
Look it up.
Doesn't mean there is exact proof that a specific brand does it but it's very well known that Japanese brands as a whole do it.

>>16851281
That they aren't telling you exactly how, when, and where things are distilled and aged tells you everything you need to know.

>>16851292
>>16851293
I mean, that's interseting and all. So Suntory can claim that their whisky is "single malt" no matter what? Even if it contains several Scottish distilleries and no Japanese made whisky? Again I implore you to provide resources so I can know more.

>>16851337
>So Suntory can claim that their whisky is "single malt" no matter what?
Idk about that but they can purchase single malt scotch import it into the country and then bottle it in their bottles and call it Japanese single malt.

>>16851337
Talks about it here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joemicallef/2021/09/11/understanding-japanese-whisky-why-it-isnt-always-what-it-seems/

>>16851337
No, because "single malt" has a legal definition. "from Japan" really doesn't, which is where the loophole comes from.

>>16851369
But I'm looking at a bottle right now that says "Single Malt Japanese Whisky".

These posters are telling me that it isn't whisky made in Japan, but rather imported Scotch relabeled. And I'm asking if I were swindled, and that if Japan simply does not distill their own whisky.

>>16851398
>And I'm asking if I were swindled, and that if Japan simply does not distill their own whisky.
You are being swindled and they do distill whiskey it's just not old enough to bottle right now.
Read the article.

is it weird if i prefer new make over the aged shit?

>>16851416
So it is Scotch, technically from a single distillery, made from malted barley, imported and relabeled. There is no such thing as a 12 year old Japanese aged whisky, period point blank. Is that the conclusion I am supposed to come to?

>>16851441
I'm sorry, but no such thing as Japanese >>distilled and aged<< 12 year old whisky. I know you spergs like to get hung up on minor details, so I'm trying to be as specific as possible.

>>16851441
>There is no such thing as a 12 year old Japanese aged whisky, period point blank. Is that the conclusion I am supposed to come to?
Basically yes, but that is because their stocks ran out so if you bought this Japanese whiskey in say 2012 or something it most likely is Japanese, but if it's anything new then it's not Japanese.

>>16851398
Let be a little more clear.
>Single malt
This has a legal definition, and the requirements for it to be called must be adhered to for it to be legally sold as such
>Japanese Whisky
This has no legal definition, and therefore has no requirements that must be adhered to for it to be legally sold as such.
The whole thing works by you thinking "Japanese whiskey" works the same way "Irish whiskey" does. Irish whiskey has a legal definition that says it must be distilled and matured in Ireland. Japanese whiskey has no legal definition, so "whiskey sold by Japanese companies" meets a common sense definition.
Does that make sense to you?

i'm getting huge incel vibes here

>>16851337
To be fair recently voluntary labelling rules were introduced and Suntory is adhering to them. Many of their whiskies are no longer labelled as Japanese.

But even if it does become law, you'll still have shit like a pure Japanese label with "not Japanese" written on the Japanese website or worse, you have to call a distillery and ask them.

>>16851441
>There is no such thing
There is no way to distinguish. At least not by looking at a bottle or official website. It does exist.

>>16851496
>Japanese whiskey has no legal definition
Nor does exported Bourbon for that matter.
But the made in USA part tends to find its way worked into trade agreements. Not the 40% minimum abv part unfortunately.

>>16851558
So this bottle is bullshit? It's a Scotch blend relabeled?

>>16851580
https://www.nomunication.jp/2021/04/13/jslma-japanese-whisky-list/
I believe Yamazaki specifically is in the clear.
The above list isn't legally enforced, and only includes distilleries that volunteer to adhere to the standard.
But Yamazaki is on that list.

>>16851580
Yes

>>16851580
There is no way to know

>>16851580
Yeah that isn't made in Japan.

>glenlivet 12: 54.99
>glenlivet 12 Illicit still: 49.99

the illicit still should just replace the 12 altogether, the extra 8% alc is desperately needed

>>16842075
because all food & drinks in the US are to be 30% vol by weight containing corn syrup. Even our gasoline has corn in it.

this makes it a little more clear if "stop buying Jap shit"

>>16851753
this is why you should buy your alcohol only from jews like heaven hill. they are honest and ethical.

>>16851731
based. illicit still is what glenlivet 12 should be. 48%, non chill filtered, no e150. the fact that it's cheaper for you is crazy. around me it's around $15 more than regular glenlivet 12. buy several bottles.

>>16851753
>nikka whisky from the hood is safe

Phew.

>>16851731
The Illicit still is 33% more expensive here.
Also despite the extreme bias presented by enthusiasts, chill filtration suites a cleaner lighter style like Glenlivet. It's not some voodoo magic that subtracts good flavor - it affects different flavors differently and positively effects texture.
That said the illicit still is still better, probably due to the huge abv increase. I do think it's worse than Glenfiddich 12 though.
23rd street single malt is a much better example of the candy sweet style Illicit Still presents, I highly recommend that if you're willing to pay new world premiums.

>>16852035
>The go-to budget bottle for many has been Nikka From the Barrel, but with the new JSLMA standard Nikka had to finally come clean that it wasn’t entirely Japanese whisky. It’s still a great Japanese-style whisky though.
>nikka whisky from the hood is safe
not so quick

>>16852035
Nikka was confirmed to contain Scotch and Canadian whisky, was it not?

Anyway:
>While these releases pass and remain Japanese according to the new rules, a true fan favorite, the Nikka From The Barrel, does not. Nikka’s website does not go into further detail but simply states, ‘the product does not meet all the criteria of "Japanese whisky" defined by the Japan Spirits & Liqueur Makers Association.’ The same goes for the Nikka Days, Nikka Tailored, and Rare Old Whisky.

2bh i kinda want this because my 10 is low and still havent tried Beastie or An Oa

>>16852316
I'd much rather try the unaffordable ones like Uigeadail, Corryvreckan, Scorch, Supernova, etc.

Beastie is a fair bit worse than 10 for no savings, and An Oa is marginally/not better with a fair bit higher of a cost.

>>16850955
>probably
Probably not.

Does all rye whiskey have that distinct pickle taste?

>>16852985
i don't think i've ever tasted pickles in rye.

>>16853177
I've had bulleit rye and sazarac rye and a dill note seems to be commonly associated with rye whiskeys

What brandy exists for a bourbon drinker? Seeing as it is wine based i was expecting something sweet but it was bitter (and have me a hell of a hangover).
I tried courvoisier and e&j.

>>16842075
i bought picrel as a birthday present but i am not a whisky drinker. is this aceptable quality for the pricetag?

Got an aberlour a'bunadh and a nikka from the barrel.
Anyone got any recommendations for similar tasting whisky to the nikka that isn't overpriced?

I bought a 16 year old Lagavulin years ago and still haven't finished the bottle because it tastes like I'm licking an ashtray. How destroyed are your tastebuds if you enjoy this shit?

>>16853560
>tastes like I'm licking an ashtray
>How destroyed are your tastebuds
You mean acidic?

>>16853562
No, I mean how can a person with a working sense of smell and taste drink this and enjoy it. It has to be a meme. I'm not squeamish about food or drinks but I cannot stand this Lagavulin.

>>16853568
Yeah so what you're thinking of is flavor. Specifically the fragrance. The taste buds are not involved.

>>16853578
>t. Scotaboo

>>16853578
taste and smell are very closely linked, anon.

>>16853604
yes, it's called FLAVOR. learn to use words appropriately.

Why are the tastelets freaking out?
Why should I care that you don't like Lagavulin?

>>16853612
No, I don't think that's what it's called at all.

>>16853647
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flavor

>>16853617
Why even post here if you don't care what others think?

>>16853678
I don't care what tastelets think.

>>16853686
I'm not even the same person you retard. I think you're better off on reddit.

>>16853691
You don't get it, why the fuck should I care that someone doesn't like lagavulin?
Should only people who care what a retard thinks post here?
Makes no sense.

Got to taste some of Ardbegs core range this Saturday. These are my rankings:
1. Wee Beastie
2. An Oa
3. Corrywreckan
4. 10 Years
5. Uigeadail

>>16853916
what order did you taste them in and how much time did you give each individually? were you cleansing between each? were they all freshly opened for the tasting? were they all regular sized bottles? did you add any water and if so did it change and how? explain your ranks.

>>16842075
>glenmorangie 10 years
tastes like whisky dic, but you swallow it like it's made of the finest water, all in all, wouldn't recommend it, have heard good stuff about the 18 special though. Enjoyed jhonny walker black label a million times more.

>>16853965
Only if you suck my dick first.

>>16842125
peated whisky has its time and place. it's kinda difficult to drink an Uigeadail with a grilled chicken salad, but at the same time, it goes GREAT with a steak or a cigar. peated whisky is not inferior - just not always easy to pair up.

>>16851161
as a corn whisk(e)y, Mellow Corn by Heaven Hill or Balcones Baby Blue are far superior. as a Japanese whisky, this is unfortunately the best one you'll be able to readily find for under $100 anymore. Suntory Toki is ok for highballs and stuff if you're one of the few countries that carries it and Nikka From the Barrel rocks tits but it's usually marked up to around $100 now.

>>16853267
St. Remy is usually a decent pick for baby's first brandy that isn't awful

>>16854194
based mellow corn appreciator

I buy this cheap whiskey to add to my morning coffee, in Mexico I can get 700+200 ml for $9.84

>>16853510
yes, it is. and a good present as well.

>>16853691
Shut the fuck up nancyboy.

>>16853970
I have no clue what you're trying to say, but glenmorangie 10 sucks ass. I literally dumped it down a drain after two glasses.

>>16853652
>merriam-webster

>>16854194
>his is unfortunately the best one you'll be able to readily find for under $100
There's better blends. Tenjaku is better.
Nikka Taketsuru Pure Malt is also miles better, but it's being discontinued.

>>16853916
Odd rankings, are you making value propositions?
Wee Beastie is definitely the worst Ardbeg.

>>16853267
Domaine Tariquet VSOP Bas-Armagnac.

>>16855189
your girlfriend left you because you're a terrible person

>>16852985
I've never had a rye that didn't, no.
Though I've had some Australian Rye's where it wasn't the dominate taste (Second to caramel or bread flavors).
If you don't like it you should probably avoid rye.

>>16856818
>Wee Beastie is definitely the worst Ardbeg.
objectively a terrible opinion

>>16856852
Objectively the correct opinion as determined by me, Ardbeg customers, and Ardbeg itself.

>>16846911
Are you taking any medications?

If iv been boozing all day how can i get that sour liquor or tanned feeling out of the back of my throat? Hard to describe but basically all i drink is tequila and the back of my throat feels like shit no matter what i drink

>>16856836
you impotent australian faggot, when is the retirement home finally going to euthanize you?

>>16851434
Tastewise, most whisky can't hang with other raw distillates (that's why you need the wood impact to make the product even marketable) but with smoky whisky you can actually say that new make beats the aged versions.

>>16843973
What's the story with the photos on the right with the color reference at the top?

>>16857640
it feels like shit because you're burning yourself. lay off the sauce, boss.

>>16854318
this is my go to when I'm broke, pretty acceptable whisky for when ur broke

>>16842075
But its Tuesday

is there any cheap bourbon that drinks as easily as tullamore dew?

>>16860855
honestly, no

>>16860855
>tullamore dew
>bourbon
Oh dear.

>>16861254
he's not saying tully is a bourbon. take the cock out of your mouth long enough to read a post before you respond with a "well alshuwally" to a thing nobody said you turbofaggot.

>>16861254
Are you shitfaced or is this your normal reading comprehension?

>>16860855
Bulleit 40%.
Old Virginia 6.

>>16858313
Weak bants. You'd never make it here.

>>16861322
they're seriously as smooth as tullamore?

>>16861348
nah

>>16861348
Bulleit drinks like water, but not in a good way

>>16861348
Yes. Bulleit is as neutral as they come, and Old Virginia is extremely vanilla dominated.

>>16861348
No bourbon can be as smooth as Tully.

>I describe whiskies as "smooth"
>I actively seek out whiskies that are "smooth"

>>16861341
Shut the fuck up Pissifag. Austria is owned by Turks, Romanians, ex-Yugos, gypsies and Albanians. So called real austrians are hiding is small towns where they'll get extinct cause they are either homosex or pigfuckers or have 1 child that will become homosex anyway. Austria is Balkan and fuck Franz Ferdinand.

>>16861523
uhhh its nice to enjoy things?

>>16861557
Slightly better, but we don't actually have beef with Austria. Just quit, you clearly don't have adequate insight for even low tier racism.

>I don't describe whiskeys as sweet, smoky, oaky, spicy, etc.
>I describe whiskeys as "smooth" instead

>>16862046
>I describe whiskeys as "smooth" instead
This, but only to describe shit whiskies.

>>16852985
>>16853177
The dillest of them all!

>>16861523
>>16862046
Some spirits have don't have as much "bite", fewer rough edges, or less apparent alcohol heat. It's okay to describe them as "smooth", no need to be such a try hard fgt

I just made an old fashioned with peychaud's bitters. It's not bad, but I'm definitely sticking with angostura in the future.

>>16862457
Smooth is being used as the answer to "is it good" or "how's it taste?" en mass.
You give far more credit than is deserved.

>>16852688
Have a bottle of Scorch. It's decent but not that much better than Uigeadail or Corryvreckan

>>16860855
Elijah Craig

>>16860855
take the mellow cornpill

>>16862611
>Smooth is being used as the answer to "is it good" or "how's it taste?"
And what's wrong with that? Most drinkers settle for absolute rotgut, the shit that tastes and burns like paint stripper. When someone is asking for "smooth", they are asking for an objective improvement over what they're accustomed to.

For me it's Eagle Rare

>>16863807
t.not a player character

>>16863807
>And what's wrong with that? Most drinkers settle for absolute rotgut, the shit that tastes and burns like paint stripper. When someone is asking for "smooth", they are asking for an objective improvement over what they're accustomed to.

>buy this
>think it tastes pretty good
>look up reviews to compare
>"tastes like motor oil"
>"like an ashtray had been left to soak"
I'm fucking done with whisky snobs, I'm going back to $10 bottles of bourbon.

>>16865635
>my perception of Scotch is what other say
wont be missed

>>16863807
It didn't answer either question.
Smooth is a neutral textural attribute and does not describe flavor or quality.

Nobody is asking for something smooth, they're asking for something good. And smooth does not equal good.

>>16865363
>>16865363
>>16865363

>>16865999
Things can absolutely taste smooth. Only autists care about texture so much as to even know what that term means.

>>16865214
I had a store select Eagle Rare first and liked it and then bought a normal bottle and didn't think it was that great. Both good for the price, but I'd rather spend an extra $10 for Four Roses SB

>>16863035
I would but heaven hill basically said fuck you to its work force
Shame, I never even had Elijah Craig barrel proof

>>16866021
It's the opposite of rough, which is exactly what they are trying to convey. Every retard knows what textures are.

>>16866207
your mom likes the texture of my cum

>>16866349
And YOUR mom is humming a song while gargling my beershits

Won a split the pot raffle at my local pub few weeks ago so I decided to treat myself. Most I've ever spent on whiskey before (€180). But I got to say, this tastes amazing. Sometimes I think whiskey tasters are bullshitting about the tastes they list for whiskeys but I can really get the notes in this. It has a subtle vanilla and raisin taste to it and a real fruity scent. Its unbelievably smooth as well. I usually like a couple ice cubes in my whiskey but I drink this neat no problem.

How often do you guys drink whiskey? I usually like a glass or two every night. I don't bother getting "drunk" anymore really. I'm happy to just get a small buzz these days.

Glendronach 15 for me this week. Love it but man, it's a pricey treat

>>16866498
I only know one store that carries it and its $100
always tempting me

>>16866460
>Its unbelievably smooth as well. I usually like a couple ice cubes in my whiskey
En pee cee

I pay top dollar for the whiskey to be extra unpleasant because I'm le refined whiskey drinker

>>16866460
>but I can really get the notes in this
That's what it's about. The good stuff has a lot of clean notes. It's only applying the same tasting methodology to trash whisky where you get vague shit like apple maybe? candied apple? indistinct sweetness? fuck it, we'll call it fresh fruits. Combine that with market speak and piss taking notes like "hints of disco" and that's tasting notes in a nutshell.

I was once a one a day drinker, but I gave that up for social drinking on Fridays.

>>16866498
Is it much better than the 12? I found the 12 was using some pretty flavorless casks.

>>16866460
you can't really get notes when you put ice in whiskey especially at such a low proof

>>16866460

Sorry to be a downer bro but that small tear in the bottom left corner of the package means that Sean McGinty pissed in the bottle. Every publican in Ireland knows that a bottle from a box with a tear like that is only to be served to Engl*sh tourists.

Fackin' Sean man, we can't control him but he does such a fine job with the 99% of bottles that he doesn't piss in. Anyway, Sean's own diet is at least 50% whiskey so you're only getting 25% max normal piss, worst case.

>>16867301
He says "smooth." He's a lost cause.

>>16866460
>How often do you guys drink whiskey?
Once a week usually Friday or Saturday I'll have a couple drams.

What should I go for tonight?

>>16867420
Laphroaig 30

>>16867427
Can't bring myself to do that mate. I'm in Indonesia, once I open the bottle it's gotta be drunk in days or it goes bad. Assuming no cork rot, I'm saving that for birth of my son or something

>>16867420
eight fingers of bushmills

>>16867437
No problem man, Talisker 10

>>16867437
Why would it go bad in Indonesia?

>>16867442
>5 rupees were deposited into your account for this post, Adalarachananambiyandanunallaperumal-dwaipayana
>Sincerely, Diageo

>>16867460
If we want to play that game we'll all be drinking Glenfiddich.

>>16867448
Climate. So humid here that once you open it, it's really gotta be kept in the wine cooler or it starts to taste off very quickly. My wine cooler is broken at the moment

I'll go for the bushmills. It's open already

>>16867467
Could be worse imo

>>16867420
scotch

>>16867441
>>16867468

>>16867420
Which one was the most expensive?

>Smells like nail polish
>Taste is really thin and weird
Why do people rate this highly?

>>16868138
"it used to be better"

Tried this for the first time after only drinking the cheap stuff, was genuinely surprised at how it actually tasted smooth without the burn I'm used to expecting.

>>16853544
Sounds you like high proof ones. I've been digging Indian labels recently like Amrut or Rampur if you have access to them in your area. Indian whiskies are usually high abv for some reason. Indians must like the spice and heat

>>16866460
Hope you consider this your awakening to the hobby. Much of the fun is expanding your palate and your library of tasting experiences to draw from when you revisit previous whiskies. People take the piss whenever someone says smooth but it's for a certain reason

>>16868138
>>Taste is really thin and weird
That's just the Irish blend profile

>>16868625
It's the gate way blended malt for lots of new drinkers for a reason

thinking of picking up this or a bushmills original tomorrow. which should i go for

>>16869505
Speyburn

>>16868625
>>16861523
>>16862046

what is a good cooking whiskey? I use a shot of Jack Daniels in my frozen custard because its cheap but I'm wondering if there's anything better?

>>16869584
>Jack
>cheap
AHAHA-hue. whatever you drink is good unless ur an alckie.

>>16869505
I've only heard of Speyburn referred to as blend filler. of the two Speyburn will be heavier and more concentrated than Bushmills by a decent margin. sipping / sharing = Speyburn, getting sloshed = Bushmills

>>16868138
I was thinking about pulling the trigger on this one. Wanted to try a good baseline Irish Whiskey
I normally drink Islays like Ardbeg Ukulele and Port Charlotte or bourbons like Woodford double oaked, knob and buffalo trace and its cousins.
Is this shit another Jameson whiskey or does it have other flavors than "metallic."

>>16869584
Buffalo Trace is a very solid whiskey that has "baking spice" flavors. It might go well with baking and its $25-30.
IDK about Jack though. All I ever got out of it was its charcoal taste.

>>16842075
I drink bourbon because it's from America and I don't pretend to be Irish and I don't care about peat because I'm not poor. Not even the Irish want to be Irish.

I like Knob Creek and Wild Turkey. I'll drink literally any scotch or whiskey, but I don't care about any of them. Tullamore Dew was the first bottle I bought as a highschooler (gf's father) and I drank Jameson after that but I like bourbon because I'm from here and it's good. Simple as.

>>16860855
If you can't drink Jim Beam white label like water you're a faggot and should take the worm pill and get straight.

>>16869378
Exactly what I was told when it was recommended.
>>16869572
No it actually tastes smooth, like from that oaky, spicy etc list I would choose smooth.

>>16870596
>No it actually tastes smooth, like from that oaky, spicy etc list I would choose smooth.
Translation: I am an NPC and it actually tastes like fucking nothing.

>>16868138
because its cheap

whats better between woodford reserve or buffalo trace, assuming I can get either for 25 bucks

I’m looking to try more scotches and this one’s the best new one I’ve tried. I tried glenfiddich but was put off with how sweet it was

I swear to god this stuff is better than any of the single malts I've tried, need to find a store willing to stock a bottle for me, as it wasn't popular enough to re-stock where I found it.

>>16870851
buy both and decide for yourself. Woodford is heavy on the banana note with a little spice and Buffalo is more molasses on corn bread with a hint of fruit

>>16870895
>I tried glenfiddich but was put off with it actually having a small amount of flavor so I prefer this

>>16871016

>>16870851
woodford reserve tastes like cherries, buffalo trace tastes like raisins
woodford actually has rye in it and shines through in cocktails while buffalo trace disappears the moment you add anything to it
get both, see which you like better

012 beer
345 wine
678 cocktail
9 none

>>16870896
>NAS blend
>that color
Holy coloring, Batman.

I drank too much whiskey and vomited and blacked out some months ago
I hadn't really touched the stuff again until recently, but when I did each sip made me gag.
Will it ever get better? Can I ever return from this?
Should I try mixing it instead of drinking straight and see if that can get me used to the taste again?

>>16871218
get away now while you can, before you become alcoholic

>>16871077
its a dark glass

>>16842075
how have your tastes changed over the years?

>>16842075
How do i booze all day? My friend said to use liquor to get me where i want and then drink beer to stay that way? Im new to drinking everyday and cant keep buying 90$ in Tequila every other week

>>16872874
Before I needed smoke notes to rank a whisky high
Nowadays I find myself liking sherry bombs more and more

I spent 90$ on tequila today. 2 bottles. Sad part is this will last me 2 weeks then ill go back and get more. What your honest reviews on Regular Jose cuervo? I know its shit liquor but the bottle is huge compared to the “fancy”. Tequila. Im just looking to be drunk all day

Ah, time to piss away $30 on Bulleit by emptying it through cocktails that I make too strong on this comfy upcoming weekend.

>>16872935
Buy a 40oz of malt liquor every morning then top yourself off with flavored vodka through out the day.

>>16842075
You can like multiple things. It's okay. It's not a competition either. I like Laphroaig when I want to drink a campfire, and Rock Hill Farms Single Barrel bourbon when I want to just sip on the porch.

>>16872935
Just learn your timings. Know that you'll metabolize around a shot or beer an hour, get to where you want to be, and then limit yourself to one drink an hour to maintain.

How's the Canadian Club 15 Years?

On sale for cheap right now. Any good?

>>16873796
meant to say 12 years sorry

>>16860767
Where are you from? I buy it because I dislike wasting a lot of money in alcohol

There’s literally nothing wrong with bourbon

>>16871218
Everyone’s experience is most certainly different, but for me it never went away. In college I drank a vile amount of rum, blacked out and vomited so many times that now I cannot drink it whatsoever 10 years later. Even the smell of Captain Morgan makes me gag, and the thought of drinking anything from Bacardi makes me nauseous. I don’t expect it’ll ever go away. But hey, again, everyone is different.

>>16873905
Corn.

>>16873999
>muh corn

>>16874049
Yeah.

>>16872874
I'm slowly growing out of peat.

Pls no bully but I’m just getting into whiskey, what’s a bourbon I would like if I really like Maker’s Mark? I tried Bulleit and didn’t care for it, and I don’t want another $20+ bottle just sitting around collecting dust. I’ve heard good things about Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek, and Buffalo Trace?

>>16874112
Maker's Mark doesn't use rye, Buffalo trace substitutes rye for wheat
so look for no-rye/wheated whiskeys. Woodford wheat whiskey is very fruity and easy to drink and a good jumping-off point

>>16874134
Thanks anon

>>16874112
>don't like bourbons with rye
>like wheated bourbons
I would recommend shock therapy.

>>16842075
My recent favorite whisky.

>>16873318
>What your honest reviews on Regular Jose cuervo?
garbage that isn't even real tequila, it has to be 100% blue agave which Jose Cuervo isn't.

>>16874198
hey faggot, bulleit tastes like fucking urinal cake juice so bite me

>>16844165
Please pass on my heartfelt appreciation for this tranquil scene

>>16873796
Was my drink of choice before I started drinking whisky straight, mixed it with club soda.
Tried it again last week since its on sale at the lcbo and it has a dense syrupy sweetness to it that I really didn't care for. I think its best as a mixer because its very 'smooth' in that sense but as a sipper its just alright. If you like sweet whisky and if its on sale I say try it out.

pouring poison on some ice and pretending I enjoy it :')

>>16876142
>ice
lmao

>>16874112
not too many wheated bourbons
There's the Rebel series but I've never had it
Honestly my dude just try Makers Mark 46, its like a more interesting version of Makers
You can try hunting for Weller, but don't overpay for it.

>>16874504
not a bad place to start
I've tried the glenfiddich 12,15, and 18 and one of their recent releases (Select cask) and the 12 is my favorite

>>16877113
this is the gayest most homosexual nu-male post i have ever read

>>16874112
>Woodford Reserve
My favorite is their double oaked simply because the oak flavor reminds me of nice, higher-end cognacs
>is it close to maker's mark?
No, but try it out once you start looking to explore more

>>16877115
you deserve to get raped you twig bitch boy what you got ya nigg

>>16877126
drink more faggot juice faggot, then post about it on a faggot message board so other faggots can read your opinion about enjoying being a faggot and if anyone disagrees with you post pictures of dogs having sex to back up your opinion you massive homosexual

>>16877133
nice come back
If I wanted my cum back I'd wipe it off your face
Play with it in my hands a bit
And make you swallow it and make you thank me for it like a good little bitch boy

>>16876142
>>16877133
>>16877115
You deserve a good buck breaking nigger

>>16877177
>77▶
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>>>16876142
>>>16877133 (You)
>>>16877115 (You)
>You deserve a good buck breaking nigger
no u

first time whisky buyer @age 22
jameson original - did i fuck up?

>>16877213
>did i fuck up?
No

>>16875272
Any idea if there's added sugar after distillation in this whisky?

>>16877213
Could be much worse like Jack Daniels. If you like the Irish style, try the Bushmills black bush (they should be in the same price range)

today was a good day. also the guy who has been shitting on the Loch Lomond 18 "because its too bitter to drink" doesnt know what the fuck bitter means. Its densely sweet and rich with fruityness with moderate tart note leaning into the finish. similar enough to the 12 without the super malty notes, but you can add a drop or two of water and it will poke out its head. for $65-70 USD its a bonafide bargain.

I haven't opened the Edradour yet, but when I raised it from the tin I nearly creamed my jeans. That color is NOICE. Might not get to it today, but I'll be pouring it next to some Glendronach 12 to compare.

>>16867420
I’d throw that no smoking sign in the trash and light up a cigar with whatever you pour for yourself

rye

>>16879733
rye?

>>16877826
There is nothing wrong with jd, mr.hipster

>>16880778
You're just being contrarian for the sake of it.

>>16880829
no u

>>16880778
except for the part where it tastes like paint thinner, sure.

Is it just me or is Ballantine's Finest Blended Scotch Whisky the most okayest whisky ever?

>>16881047
Evan Williams Black Label is the cheapest, okayest whiskey ever.

i finally stopped getting filtered by bourbon and it changed my life

>>16881179
what does it taste like

Gonna pour some and watch DUNC

>>16877297
I wouldnt be surprised, Canadian whisky plays fast and loose when it comes to regulation so a lot coloring and flavoring can be added after the fact and it can still be called whisky. Theres even the rule that 1/11th (9.09%) of the drink can be non-whisky added after the fact which is the case with whiskies like foxheart which is mixed with rum as its main gimmick.
There are sugarier or more candy-like' whiskies ive had than CC12 (wisers is far worse), my main gripe is that the sweetness was very 'deep' kinda like a dense cake if that makes sense.
CC12s saving grace like with a lot of whiskies is the price is right for what it is. I prefer something like Lot 40 as far as Canadian whiskies go but thats a very different flavor and a bit more expensive.

>>16881219
>i finally stopped getting filtered by bourbon and it changed my life
What did he mean by this?

>>16881229
It just tastes like the most average, slightly watery bourbon possible. Corn sweetness, barrel char and a hint of rye spice. Boring as shit but perfectly palatable.
It's difficult to fuck up anything legally sold as straight bourbon in the USA because of the laws governing what can and can't be sold as straight bourbon, so even $17 handles of Evan black are still perfectly OK.

>>16881242
I really liked the two bottles of the 25 year I've had. Just wish they were higher proof.

>>16877213
It's a good starting reference. Easy to find and one you can come back to as your pallette evolves in order to compare other whiskeys to it.

>>16870895
It's a fave

what am I in for?

>>16881806
a wild ride that almost never ends. look like an older bottling, can you post the bottling date?

>>16881826
its not my pic

>>16881830
a shame, that.

>a shame, that

>>16879318
my Glendronach has been sitting for a little over a year now and still tastes 85% of what it did when it was freshly cracked. The neck pour of the Edradour is so far unimpressive, feels very tight and less like a typical sherry nose and more like Amaretto as the tasting/nosing notes on the packaging refer to sugared almonds and orange marmalade and that is really the extent of the feature after about 30 mins in glass(a slight cinnamon-ness that you can get from bourbon on the nose with some water). not even a hint of dried fruits or chocolate, but for the first time I have experienced a medicinal note, like the residual flavor of latex gloves when your at the denist. Maybe the sherry barrels they used were properly dried over time instead of rushed with additional toasting. that color is truly something though, being natural and all.

Fuck yeah bros found an Eagle Rare handle for $70.

>>16844333
Black bush is very based. The whole bushmills range is criminally underrated.

For me it's Lagavulin 16 years. Can't improve on perfection.

I think whiskeys are a consumer meme.
Terrible aftertaste and hangover
I prefer vodka for everyday value, purer taste.
Good rum for special occasions, especially if its sugar cane

>>16884146
>hangs over on whiskey
>doesn't hang over on rum
You don't exist.
Rum is commonly accepted to have the worst hangover, while whiskey (unless you're drinking button shelf garbage) is much easier. I've never once hung over after drinking whiskey.

>>16879733
>>16880395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHKKq7kMF8w

>>16884197
Maybe from captain morgans or bacardi shite but I dont even consider them rums
I mostly drink dark rum or sugar cane rum, Ive had only the best experience.
Not that I hate on whiskey, (glenfiddich my favorite) I just think its overrated and many drink it only because it "looks cool"

>getting hangovers

lmao literaly just stay hydrated, niggas. drink some fucking water before you go to bed.

>>16884268
Okay, I'll bite. What do you consider a real rum? As not a rum guy all I've ever had is bacardi and kraken, neither of which tickled my fancy.

>>16884323
Woods old navy, Rhum JM agricole, O.V.D.

>>16884342
>Rhum JM agricole
rhum agricole is not rum, it is unaged and made with sugar cane juice instead of molasses. it is closer to cachaça in this way.

>>16884342
Is rhum generally good? My local has Rhum Barbancourt 5 Star 8 Year for a reasonable price. I figure even if I don't like it I can use it to soak my fruitcakes, which is pretty much the only reason I ever buy rum at all.

>>16884275
I get headaches on beer alone but never get it with whiskey, must be drinking more water on the side with the latter

>>16884275
Milk. Absorbs all the poison shit. Just slug a big glass of milk before sleep.

>>16884694
"the poison shit" is mostly dehydration.
Literally just drink water nigga

>>16884275
or just stop drinking an hour or two before bed

>>16879318
>also the guy who has been shitting on the Loch Lomond 18 "because its too bitter to drink" doesnt know what the fuck bitter means
It means 90%+ dark chocolate. And tannic to boot.

Either mine was corked, or you don't know what the fuck bitter means.
That said, the 12 is also quite bitter (not nearly as much, but it's defiantly a flaw), and I've had two bottles, two independent bottles, and inchmoan (where I thought that bitterness was actually balanced), so I doubt it was corked.

>>16885167
Doesn't work, you still need to physically rehydrate.

>>16885176
works for me every time, but that's most likely because i'm a water addict so you're right

>>16885180
So your response to "stay hydrated" is "i don't need to stay hydrated, i just stay hydrated instead"

brilliant.

>>16885172
i get no chocolate on either. honestly the uniqueness of both is a blueberry like quality, sweet at first and then tart/sour/slighty bitter for some maybe. the 18 doesnt state any specifics about maturation on the label like the 12, but I havent looked at the box with much intent yet so its possible they explain more. I would guess it comes from the peat that they do mention or their use of Lomond stills.

What were the independents you had? I'd like to look around for them. Also, I assume you have some taste for peat since you mention their peated expression Inchmoan being more to your liking, so perhaps its type of sweetness is too much in that direction for you. To me they are only slightly tannic with the 12 being less so. The 18 has a woodiness that reminds me of Glenmorangie's Quinta Ruban 14. my 18 was bottled 04 06 19 and my 12, 06 06 20. with as much as they produce I can imagine it might not be hard to get a bad run or maybe one that is less consistent than their baseline, and with the independents still being so similar is sort of surprising, their profile may not just fit your palate.

vodka > whisky

I just got some evan williams black for 10 bucks
smells surprisingly good

>>16885601
that will most likely fade after a few pours. very middle of the road bourbon.

>>16885439
I only keep track of what I like r buy, and given we don't seem to be on the same page at all it's hard to say you should take my recommendations on board.
High Spirits Loch Lomond 12 is the one I liked. That said what I tried looks nothing like what I found when googling.

>no chocolate on either
Just the 18. And not in a subtle way, in the oh my god this is disgusting spit it out way that I would react to real 90% chocolate. I don't think it's peated in any way, though I'd expect their casks are long past dead.

>its type of sweetness is too much in that direction for you
No. It's really not sweet.
>The 18 has a woodiness that reminds me of Glenmorangie's Quinta Ruban 14
Sure but I found that to be a positive quality in the Quinta Ruben, that would probably become problematic if it hit 18 years in that barrel. But even then it'd be less of an issue because the Quinta Ruben is actually sweet / fruity.
> their profile may not just fit your palate
Certainly seems to be the case. But maybe that means you're going to find pic related to be a dialed down Loch Lomond 12.

>>16885611
10 bucks though, smells better than my woodford

>>16885747
looks lighter than the official bottling of the 12 by by a decent margin
>their casks are long past dead
allegedly they re-condition 25,000 casks a year with 5 coopers. i imagine they are using heavily charred barrels to run them as long as possible and that their sherry barrels are prepped with sherry syrup. the 18 to me has a real maple syrup kind of depth to its sweetness where the sugary part is more integrated instead of a blast of sweet up front and then that can beat that. it was a bit drier than the 12 though so perhaps some PX or amontillado was used

>>16885812
you might also try the $10 Henry McKenna Sour Mash then, lower proof but easier drinking imo. i liked it better than the Evan Williams White Label BiB. if you want a real kick for around the same price as your Woodford then try Old Gran Dad 114. regular Woodford basic mixer tier thats ok for drinking straight if you have nothing else around, but the Double Oaked is apparently where its at for stand out sipper and I've heard good things about there American Single Malt Whiskey but I dont like the price enough to try them personally.

>>16885812
If you like it you like it, there is nothing wrong with that, it's not like you picked bad bourbon either, it's decent especially for the price.