/ck/ - Food & Cooking

there's already a coffee thread on the front page, calm down.

>>16809808
its about to retire soon
i wanna beat this dead horse as hard as i can but i gotta go to work shortly

>>16809821
No it isn't.
There are still 10 whole pages to go, and /ck/ is not a fast board.

>>16809821
So that's what my beer shits look like coming out

9barista anon here again (the one with the REMI)
made a small latte with some slightly caramelized sugar today with Onyx Monarch coffee -- tastes lovely

>>16809792

>>16810219
do you use a distributor before tamping? what coffee dose are you using?

Would it be worth is for a new gaggia classic pro? I've never owned a real espresso machine before. I currently have a baratza encore, would I need get a new grinder to go with it?

>>16810830
get a used gaggia and a better grinder

>>16810840
How hard is it to make sure everything is working well with a used espresso machine. What would be a good grinder to go with?

The current state of presslets. Everyone make sure to check on your friends and family who own one of these death traps.
>>16810850
Kinu m47p or option o remi

>>16810855
Is a hand grinder really better than the encore? I've never heard particularly good things about them, but if they're that good, I might give it a shot

>>16810873
kek yes

>>16810585
yes, i use a WDT to break up any clumps and even the bed for tamping
i used to use a cheap OCD as well, but i've stopped doing that now as it's completely unnecessary
after WDT, i give the portafilter a light vertical tap against the mat and then i tamp
i'm dosing 18g in and getting around 36-38g out

>>16810830
yes you need a new grinder -- a baratza encore would not cut it for espresso

Wasn't chickory originally used as a coffee substitute for some super religious guy that thought caffeine was the devil or some shit and nobody liked it because it didn't tastelike coffee?

How do I perfect my tamp bros? I be tamping crooked sometimes

>>16810873
lmfao yes even a $60 hand grinder will eternally btfo the encore

>>16810900
cool, thanks anon. do you aim for a 30 second extractiom or longer?

>>16810921
yeah i aim for between 25-35 seconds, usually right on 30

>>16810906
It was significantly cheaper and doesn't break down in water like coffee.

>>16810925
excellent. seems like a cool machine

>>16810935
it very much is
i was disappointed with the espresso i was getting out of it the first few weeks, but that was due to completely shit puck prep
with some good puck prep and good coffee, i've had the best espresso of my life out of this machine

>>16810912
bump

>>16810925
Exactly where I'm at on the f58 -1g. I wish we could pull data from the 9bar so I could try to mimic the profile of it.

>>16810947
Set the tamper on top of the bed, push with two fingers two thumbs.

>>16810959
how do you do it perfectly flat?

>>16809792
chicory is based as fuck, but French Market is better than CDM.

I underroasted my coffee and am enjoying a nice "tea-like" 3rd wave experience.

>>16810912
i've had success doing something similar to this (but with both hands), where i use my fingers to tamp and ensure even force across the tamper
i'm now using a more traditional thumb+forefinger barista tamp, but i usually finish it off with a finger tamp to be sure it's level
don't be afraid to tamp more than once and apply additional force on parts of the bed that are lopsided

>>16810955
same, i've mentioned this before but my biggest "complaint" about the 9bar is how little control you have after you've locked in the portafilter
really tempted to save up for something like an Olympia Cremina

>>16810912
forgot pic

>>16810944
good to know - thanks
>>16810955
don't know if it's of help but i found pic rel

>>16810966
shouts on the finger thing, thanks. also do you ever have any coffee getting stuck to your tamper and ruining the surface of the puck? or is that just a pressure issue?

>>16810912
>>16810970
Get a self-leveling tamper.

>>16810965
>teafag
take yourself and your shitty "coffee" to the tea time thread faggot

>>16810975
nah, can't say that's happened to me, but i'm also not really clear on what you're getting at by that

>>16810978
stop being a consoomer and develop good technique instead retard

I've got an older bodum French Press and it seems no matter what I do or how slow I press, some grinds make it through to the cup. Do I need to replace the screen/spring, use an extra coarse grind, or what?

>>16810974
great pic, thanks for this mate

>>16810984
what are you grinding with?

>>16810981
Kek get a load of this coping moka pot poorfag.

>>16810975
now that i think about it, try twisting your tamper a bit after you're done tamping but before removing it
this might fix what you're talking about, if it's what i think it is

>>16810991
>cope
keep consooming fag, don't let me stop you from sinning

>>16810992
I do that, it helps sometimes but occasionally it only solves itself if I re-tamp

>>16810996
yeah, i have also experienced that
not sure if a more expensive tamper would fix it or if this is just the nature of espresso-ground coffee
i know that it's a pretty common phenomenon and the solution is pretty simple so i'm not too worried about it

>>16810987
the main comment got cropped by accident

>>16811003
that sounds interesting
i've heard of some people playing around with heat during extraction, might see if i can make it happen and notice any differences

>>16811007
let us know if you do

>>16811002
it's quite a pricey tamper, maybe it has something to do with humidity or something. will keep it at it, ty

>>16810974
Absolutely of help. It would be perfect if I could manually set a pressure profile
>>16810987
Also today I learned I'm retarded and should probably turn the wifi on my coffee bar phone on so the sep app updates.

>>16811036
excited to see if flair58 anon (you?) can try this out

>>16811052
Yep. App is updated on my other phone now. 18.5g on the exact same burrs I've got. I had no clue gabor(owner of nakedportafilters/guy who made sep) had a kinu lol. Guy has good taste.

>>16810990
Unfortuantely I usually buy pre-ground. I know its not as good as grinding it just before adding water, but I just don't have a coffee grinder. I've noticed the boutique coffees usually have a coarser grind, and the cheaper decaf stuff has a pretty fine grind, doesn't seem to matter. Nor does it matter if I have a super coarse "grinding" it in my mini food processor.

I mainly make tea in the French press but even small leaves will get by too.

>>16809792
Today I had my coffee black with some homemade blueberry matcha compote mixed in

>>16810970
why in the world would anyone use one of these instead of a spoon ?

>>16811128
you're discovering the limitations of french piss also
>if I have a super coarse "grinding" it in my mini food processor.
blade grinders are super inconsistent and you get tonnes of super fine pieces in even a "super coarse" grind. If you just want better coffee on a budget you could get something like a timemore c2 or a 1zpresso and a plastic v60

>>16811206
>instead of a spoon
terrible troll attempt

>>16811216
>timemore c2
>on a budget
a $75 hand crank grinder. Are you on dope?

>>16811568
Then just buy a $20 chinkshit POS off of Amazon and fuck off. Don't come back and complain when it doesn't work well or breaks either.

>>16811568
you're the one on dope if you think that's expensive for what you're getting
kill yourself and stop posting

>>16811605
srs question:

what’s the advantage of a hand grinder over electric? seems like a lot of tennis elbow just for one shot of espresso

>>16811803
think about what you're paying for
when you buy a hand grinder, you are paying for a burr set and a mechanism for you moving those burrs together to grind coffee, as well as materials
when you buy an electric grinder, you're paying for a burr set, and you're paying for a motor to move those burrs to grind coffee

it is much cheaper to get a good burr set if you don't also have to shell out money to buy a motor, and if you don't pay enough for a good-enough motor, your grinder is going to kill itself very quickly

a typical electric grinder capable of grinding well for espresso starts at around the $400-$500 range
a hand grinder capable of grinding to that standard (or better) would set you back maybe $100-$150

>>16811953
>>16811803
Please don't pay over $150 for a grinder unless you are buying a commercial grinder that you are going to use hundreds of times a day.

test

>>16811999
go steal trips from some other board

>>16812004
that's a full house nigger

>>16811998
lmao

>>16811998
Why do retards on this board not understand how much shit costs these days? Please point to some of these "commercial" grinders that can hold up to being used "hundreds of times per day" and cost only $150. I'll wait.

>>16811998
you're such a fucking retard lmao
please buy your chinkshit electric grinder and enjoy your shit coffee for the few months before it dies

>>16812016
>not just paying a pahjeet 50c a day to grind your coffee with your mechanical grinder.

bought a pour-over, how do i take my coffee game to the next level?

>>16812227
are you even single origin yet?

>>16812235
actually, yes

>>16811998
Please tell me this endgame $150 setup please.

>>16812227
what's your grinder?

Trying to shed the lockdown pounds, so I don't eat after 8pm until 12pm the next day. Only thing allowed is one cup of coffee and water.

Normally it's a plunger brew but decide to be fancy today.

I ordered a few umeshiso spoons. We'll see where they rank on the based-o-meter.

I've been gifted a large quantity of coffee beans by my mother. I have a couple pf boxes of this Marley Coffee brand that I have no idea what it is. It is also past its best before date a year ago.

Is it still okay to drink from it? Or was I gifted a whole bunch of expired coffee beans?

>>16812681
They're definitely way past the point of going stale. If they're whole beans and were vacuum packaged they might still be drinkable but they're definitely not going to be very good.

>>16812770

Yes they are whole beans, is the taste going to be very bland and stale? Should I just dilute it with milk and sugar to mask the taste?

>>16812796
You should just buy fresh beans

>>16809792
>Chicory.
Kill it with the mower. Buy it at the store.

>>16809792
Had the cafe au lait at the Cafe Du Monde, was pretty good with the powdered sugar from the beignet. Normally a black coffee kinda guy but when in Rome.

I've only had 1 or 2 french presses since cold brew season ended. It's just not the same. Why'd it have to end, bros?

coffe makes me poop

The first time I ever had Vietnamese coffee made with cafe du monde I was going to the hospital because my younger brother had just been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes and it gave me stomach rumblies so bad that I had to shit in his room with me foot against the door because the hospital bathrooms had no locks.
I do love viet coffee though and when I went in person it was nice

>>16810219
where did you get that cup? I want one

>>16813238
look up my man madexbinary on etsy

>>16813083
>cold brew season
you faggots are insufferable

>>16813238
here's another shot from another small latte i made today

>>16811998
I had a plasticky electric burr grinder that cost about $60. I used it two times a day, grinding 40g doses each time. The motor burnt out after 5 months. Math out the cost of a shitty grinder like that vs. a nicer hand grinder for $150-250 that lasts 10 years.

>>16813324
Nice. I kind of want to pick up one of these if they ever come back in stock.

https://kurasu.kyoto/collections/tableware/products/original-lipped-bowl-1

>>16813324
Nice head. Is the cup ceramic or plastic?

>>16813320
said the insufferable retarded faggot

>>16813601
it's ceramic

Hi it's the noob from the previous thread
I was going to go to a cafe this morning and try something, but I'm too hungover so I just made regular black coffee again...
Sorry, I'll try again next weekend I guess, but keep reading these threads to learn
Thank you for all of advice/info though

>>16814569
Any time pal.

>>16814569
you can have coffee at any time

>>16814692
I can’t have coffee past 3 in the afternoon or I’ll be up all night

>>16814692
What >>16814753 said (except make it 11 am for me)
Also, I get to work before most cafes here open up, except Starbucks and some donut shops

>>16814753
>>16814785
a double shot of espresso has 60-100mgs of caffeine, you can't have a comfy espresso drink in the afternoon?

>>16815277
I can't even have a can of Coke
It's probably because I have so much caffeine in the morning
But if I skip morning coffee, my head wants to explode by noon

coof

I just bought this, what am I in for?

>>16817094
never judge a book by its cover but that shit gonna be oily and burnt I can tell that from here

>>16817094
I have a deep seated issue with companies that don't disclose the origin %s of their blends.

>>16817094
Probably stale garbage. Also for personal reasons I fucking hate blends.

>>16817094
The coffee beans may be good but the packaging looks cheap. Is the origin stated?

"Lobster Butter" reminds me of trip to Malaysia where the robusta beans for local consumption are roasted with butter and sugar for extra flavor.

>>16817431
>Is the origin stated?
doesn't look like it
https://www.roosroast.com/collections/blends/products/bad-ass-women-blend

>>16817454
So its 95% the cheapest brazilians they could source.

>>16817454
this "John" dude seems to be a rather insufferable cunt

coof

new day new coffy

What's the grinder pictured here?

>>16820221
fug

>>16820248
the shitmaster 5k
don't buy it

>>16820248
Timemore C2 with a body kit.

>>16820248
Looks like this Kalita Mill KH-3AM

>>16820303
Chinese knockoff of a bad italian design.

I got the happy mug light roast single origin roaster's choice subscription. I get delivered a 12oz bag every two weeks. Very comfy. Right now I have a cuban and it almost tastes sweet

any of you naygers brew with sparking water like pellegrino?

>>16820295
kek

My wife got me a coffee grinder, I’ll be shitposting on how fresh my coffee is from now on

>inb4 muh budget model n shiet

>>16821270
a 10oz bag lasts me about a month. how many cuppas are you brewing every day on average?
>>16821313
the grinder is fine but it doesn't really make it fresh unless your beans are also freshly roasted within the past few weeks or so

>>16821313
Damn look at that fit and finish. Bet that plastic feels great.

>>16821332
>>16821351
So far works great with my 1951 Vesuviana, I’ll try and locally source good coffee beans, rhe ones I got where “recently” toasted which isn’t really assuring

>>16810560
I decided to leave for a couple days to see if I was really living in your head rent free. You're not getting any replies, nobody is laughing at your jokes, but you just can't get my chicory flavored cock out of your mouth.

Holy shit, you are the prissiest faggot I have ever met in my lifetime. You HAVE to be from sanfran, there's literally no other place on earth that could sustain such faggotry.
>>16810560
Obsessed... But you still haven't gotten rid of me. You should post the full context:
>the coffee is not at fault, and neither are the spices
>it’s a refreshing flavour
>my problem is that the coconut cream is very fatty and doesn’t emulsify into the drink
>the smell is a little medicinal, but the taste grows on me
>I don't think anise... goes into coffee
>it tasted like a hangover
>nobody that sampled it liked it at all
>I don’t think anise and ginger and cloves go in coffee
>and the goddamn chicory certainly doesn’t help anything either
TLDR: unsaturated fats, chicoryfiller shit coffee, and anise don't sit well after 3 days. But don't worry, by thanksgiving, I'll have posted an updated recipe.

>>16821374
i don't have any good roasters in my area so i just order something online, as long as you're not ordering overseas you should be fine. it's more important to find someone that names their origins and moves their stock than it is to find someone around the corner IMO.

>>16821332
>how many cuppas are you brewing every day on average?
I use an average of 35g of beans a day. I only drink coffee on weekdays. How do you drink so little?

Why do I have such good taste in coffee? It is both a blessing and a curse.

How long can I keep hiding my power level?

>>16821375
>it must be just thrilling for you to see your very own coffee recipe prepared by some anonymous fag on seekay
>but at some point you’re gonna have to realize that we’re just making fun of you
Tldr clinically diagnosed autist screeches, everyone else laughs and moves on. You decided to leave because you got caught samefagging off your phone since you couldn't deal with all the stimulus the local kum-n-go exudes.

Work has instant coffee. At least, it's free

>>16821313
I prefer hand-cranked grinders; I like the physicality of grinding.

>>16821817
>you got caught samefagging
I like how, every time you get caught\cornered, you just lie and project
>we're making fun of you
Like I said days ago: and?
>you decided to leave because...
If I left for any other reason than to see if you really were a faggot, why did I come back, hmm?
>ask me how I know you've never been punched in the mouth, twink
>clinically diagnosed
Since I'm apparently a samefag, how do you know I wasn't lying, mt. Admits-to-trolling-for-years?

La Pavoni bros, Im currently restoring a 17 year old pro and adding a temp and pressure mod. I heard theyre temperamental as fuck. Are they just noobie complaints or is the machine a hassle to handle even with practice?

>>16823351
Also, are La Pavonis good conversation starters?

Dog I love specialty coffee, had this in an aeropress, french press and v60 today. I'm definitely in the coffee zone.

Do you drink coffee for its taste or just for the effects?
Also, hot, room temp or cold?

https://subminimal.com/products/nanofoamer
How much did I just get memed?

>>16823446
I like my milk and sugar with a splash of coffee. Well really half coffee - half cream. Temp depends on the weather but coldbrew is good any time

I bought a 2nd hand Gaggia. There's rust above where the water tank sits and I've noticed particles falling into the tank.

I've tried using Autosol Metal Life Saver and scrubbing it until no more rust came off but a week later when I wipe the area more rust comes off.

Do I need to use some form of rust converter product (I thought Metal Life Saver might of done this)?
How can I prevent this getting worse and particles falling into the tank?

>>16822694
Having a cheapie electric grinder break on you then moving on to a decent hand grinder is a rite of passage. It doesn't matter if you tell people this. It doesn't matter if everybody tells you this. You find out yourself, then you remember what everyone said, then you move upward and onward.
There are just too many point of failure for cheap electric burr grinders: the motor, the plastic motor mounts and screw mounts, the various saftey switches, the plastic grind adjustment mechanism, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbIFKjyyLew

I got an old commercial grinder with huge flat burs for basically free from an abandoned starbucks, and it is amazing at how much my drip coffee has improved from using a baratza encore.
I had always assumed that the encore was all you needed unless you were doing espresso, but there is an incredibly noticeable improvement.

>>16823446
Both. And I love the entire smell and taste process from grinding to brewing to drinking. I love the way the flavors change from hot to cold. Every coffee goes through a flavor and smell transition as it cools off and it's lovely.

is siphon coffee complicated and just to show off?
or does it actually produce a superior brew??

>>16823446
both, but mostly for taste

>>16823464
not at all -- it's good

>>16823446
What "effects" are you hoping to get from coffee? Why would you drink any liquid other than water for any reason other than taste?

What kind of machine should I get from this antique shop? I like the top rightmost ones but I think they’re not espresso machines

Help me /ctg/ I am retarded

>>16824508
None of those are "espresso machines" it's all stovetop crap

>>16824746
Fine whatever, I like stovetop, any advice on which one to go for?
> im still saving for my pontevecchio Lusso ok?!

>>16823813
It's pretty simple and does produce a superior brew. The cloth filter cleanup is the annoying part of the siphon.

>>16824794
are the cloth filters disposable or reusable?
ive seen espresso style metal filters available for those things

the whole thing looks like a catastrophe to clean even under ideal circumstances
my druthers lay with the clarity and simplicity of v60 or chemex but a siphon seems like a dumb toy to play around with until it gets old

>>16821375
>I decided to leave for a couple days to see if I was really living in your head rent free.
>I was checking out at the gas station, I got a smart water and some almonds, decided to see if you had gone 15 minutes without thinking about me. You hadn't.

You couldn't handle 15 minutes without checking on 4chan. You've been here the entire time. Do me a favor and tally up all the calories you're packing into thanksgiving big boy.

>how do you know I wasn't lying, mt.
I'll repost my comment from the other thread that caused you to dodge. You ooze social ineptness. You can't lie about a broken arm when you've got a fresh cast and hospital wristband.
>A clinically diagnosed autist trying to call others out for being autistic. Classic projection. You can't make that shit up. I called you out hours before this for confusing posts. I felt that neurodivergent wall you kept slamming your forehead into. No wonder you're fixated on shitty coldbrew and samefagging off your phone.

>>16824780
Buy a new one because you can still get consumable parts for it. Those antiques are just to leave on a high shelf in your kitchen for show.

>>16824852
The stable temp, immersion-percolation and cloth filter make it shine. Especially the cloth filter since it sits in-between paper and metal. The filters are reusable but take some maintenance, I'm pretty sure there's a hoffmeme video about it. The rest of the cleanup is pretty easy. I've had some amazing brews on siphon. Also don't use the old-school technique which puts the coffee in before the water rises, put the coffee after all the water has risen up.

>>16824890
I used to work on motorcycles so I know how to make gaskets and shit for them, any stovetop recommendations? So far I only have the Bialetti and the Vesuviana

>>16824907
You just found your calling in life, anon. Buy them all. Collect even moar. Run a high shelf around your kitchen to put them all on and maybe one of those rolling library ladders.

You can make them all work and tinker with them and experiment to see which makes the best coffee.

/ck/ will be waiting to see pictures and reviews of your results.

>>16824907
Get a bellman cx25 and a gauge. Or a 9barista.

>>16825205
Well the bellman looks right up my alley, the 9 barista being 325£ really puts it a bit out of my budget, I could buy and restore all the coffee related stuff from the antique shop I posted earlier lmao

>too complicated

>>16809792
How important is a good quality coffee grinder really? I've heard that it's more important than the actual device used to brew the coffee.

>>16809792
I ordered a v60 and a decent hand grinder. Will adding sugar and cream destroy the flavor of my beans completely? Or at least negate whatever benefit I get from fresh beans and a good grinder? I get the impression that coffee is meant to be drank black unless you're making an espresso type of drink with milk.

>>16825615
It depends more on the coffee you’re grinding, a coffee grinder does make a huge difference on the quality of cofffee you end up with but I’d say it’s split

>30% coffee beans
>10% grind
>5% water
>30% machine
>15% brewing time and temp
>10% mystery that makes it taste good

>>16824508
take your pick they're all shitty moka pots you fucking retard
none of those make espresso

>>16825641
What grinder do you have?

>>16825697
I have a vintage crank one and an electric cuisinart one, the vintage one is great but it takes a lot to get to fine grain, If I were into aero pressing it would be ideal

>>16825852
Explains the
>10% grind
kek

Just got some of this stuff in the mail. Anyone else tried it before?

>>16825883
Post grinder

little circles

>>16826153
Thought these cups we're pretty lame at first but they're growing on me. Helps that they're always filled with delicious looking coffee

>>16826067

>>16826153
>>16826230
that little handle bit looks like a real cocksucker to clean

>>16826230
i fucking love these cups lad
they're incredibly comfy and great for sipping these cappuccinos/lattes

>>16826253
i've had no trouble so far

>>16826252
>paying over 37.5 million vietnamese dong for a grinder

>>16826566
I've got dong to spare pal.

Just bought this.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089DWFP9L?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

>>16826618
Pretty based
But seriously how does it make the taste any better? I just noticed a quality bump on finer grinds with the electric one

>>16826638
>i just threw away $30
next time, venmo it to me instead faggot

>>16826676
Will you wake up at 5:30 and make me coffee? If not, then fuck off, poorfag.

>>16826723
i'll wake up at 5:30 and cram coffee up your ass

>>16826757
Coffee enemas are said to have health benefits. There is little research to back that up, though.

>>16826657
A more uniform distribution of grinds will definitely show up in the cup. It'll be fun to go head to head with a $200 grinder and a $2000 one here in a few weeks though. Hoffmeme liked the hg-2, so the key should be sick.

So what does espresso taste like, compared to plain black coffee?

>>16827501
like good

>>16827501
more concentrated is the easiest way I can describe it
greatly varies on the beans obviously

South East Asian coffee roasting

>>16823714
The daily grind!

>>16826638
Based, v60 fags on suicide watch

>>16826657
Literally all placebo effect, otherwise cafes would mog my poorfag coffee every time. Yet they are consistently worse despite using the same beans.

>>16828105
post grinder

>>16828111
Niche zero

>>16828132
>the coffee I make to my own personal preferences is better than ones made by wagies appealing to the everyman
hot take

>>16828144
"Everyman" guests also like my coffee more than the cafe though. It's very possible the wagies are incompetent even at meme cafes though, I'll give you that.

>>16828178
What's up with the social illusion that coffee shops make better coffee than coffee nerds at home? They really don't. It's the same with restaurants. Good home cooks' food beats the pants off most restaurants' food. I feel like it has something to do with mammon-worshipping western culture. If someone earns money doing something they must be really good at it, right? This is not so.

>>16828190
to be fair they've got a higher product turnover so it's easy for them to have fresh roasted beans on hand all the time

>>16828190
In fact, the opposite is probably true: if money-making is involved, the process is always tainted and inferior somehow. The business must be profitable over excellent. Corners are cut, passions are tainted. Business does not produce good culture.

>>16828196
Yeah well I roast my own coffee. But because I don't have to even consider profits I can buy the really good stuff. They can't compete with amateurs.

>>16828213
So then I guess the gatekeeping, butt flapping snobbery starts to discredit and discourage regular folks from being or attempting to be excellent.

>>16828190
Cafes have better equipment and you'd expect the baristas who get way more practice making coffee to make better coffee more consistently. I'm only talking about the meme shops that market themselves as superior too.
>>16828213
I thought commercial roasters hoarded the really good lots.

>>16828178
You've got a decent midrange grinder and have no timer weighing you down. They're only going to adjust the grinder throughout the day if they get a complaint, so solidly mediocre is fine when you're shuffling people out the door.

https://espressoaf.com/recommendations/titan-grinders.html

>>16828244
Cope

>>16828261
Its a single dose kony with a quieter, weaker motor. You don't think burr size affects grind?

>>16809792
based beneigh eater

What's the best coffee in your opinion? Espresso? Drip? Latte? There are so many kinds.

>>16828895
>Espresso
Delicious but the setup is very expensive
>Drip
This is my preference. The convenience of it is a big deal to me. I use a bonavita
>Latte
I don't like milk in my good coffee

>>16828895
I like Moka but I’m probably a pleb by this Etruscan coffee image forum standards

>>16829148
is that hot chocolate and coffee mixed?

>>16829057
With espresso, you can get like 75% as good with the cheap Cuban stove-top espresso maker (like $10).
>>16828895
French press is better than drip or pour over (which are about the same), but isn’t work the hassle to clean, IMO. Cuban espresso is probably the best cheap method. Drip is the easiest and works.

>>16829162
holy pleb

>>16829154
Nah, that’s a mocha, the Moka pot is like pic related and it brews a coffee stronger than drip and softer than machine espresso, I just like it

Is a used Breville Barista Express for 100$ a good deal?

>>16829167
I don’t have counter space for a good espresso machine. I’m stuck with small, pleb solutions. I’d rather just buy good coffee when I want it rather than buy a new house with more counter space.

>>16828895
Honestly doesn't make sense to compare espresso with other brew methods since they're really completely different drinks made from the same ingredients.

Leaving espresso aside though, you can certainly compare the other brew methods a lot more fairly, though you could even go one step further to set aside methods that are aimed at getting something closer to espresso like moka pot if you wanted. For me I enjoy the good old tried and true v60 brew, it checks all the boxes of being relatively simple, easy to prepare and clean up, and producing a well-balanced brew with minimal effort. I also enjoy the extra body you can get with french press occasionally, but not a big fan of the extra sediment you end up dealing with and cleanup is a hassle. Will also likely end up picking up and trying out an aeropress soon because I'm tired of having to deal with other peoples' shit setup when visiting with family.

>>16829248
it's not your budget, its your mindset. a well-brewed v60 is way better than french piss, it just takes a while to learn to do it well. a plastic v60 and 100 filters is like 10$ or something

>>16829322
I said kinds of coffee, not kinds of brew method idiot.

>>16809792
Italian caffè d'orzo is a wonderful grain based coffee alternative.

Why isn't cafe lungo more common? Never tried it but it should be basically all the flavor of espresso yet not such a small fucking volume. Best of both worlds drip and espresso.

>>16829334
Ah, a pour over thing. I’ve tried it. Not really significantly better than drip coffee. I thought it would be with how much people hype it, but it unfortunately just isn’t.

>>16829378
Suppose I misunderstood the question there, in that case I'd say it's a dumb question. Depends on mood.

>>16829385
Checked the wikipedia article and it says it's not simply half the strength of a normal espresso, also the flavor is affected by the longer extraction time and bigger volume of water apparently. I guess a small volume of water also has the advantage that you can use more hot milk to get the same volume of the finished drink, making it richer in flavor since it contains a lot of milk rather than a lot of water and a little milk.

>>16829385
my run is to do a 1:1 ratio ristretto

ristretto & lungo are moar complicated then just the volume of the completed shot
you want the brewing to happen in an optimum window of time and the grind needs to be correct to ensure a complete and balanced extraction occurs for the volume of the completed shot

drinking this in an espresso

>>16829507
Post beans

>>16829545
Am I a pleb for moving my beans into this plastic container? I prefer seeing how much I have and the seal is better.

>>16829577
UGH left handed discrimination flipping my photo. Here's the espresso. I don't even want to tell you guys how I grind these and the state of my espresso maker.

Is it embarrassing to use a larger mug, like the middle pictured, instead of a typical mug?

>>16829577
Beautiful beans.

I don't know how light affects beans but that seal looks decent. I keep mine in one of those metal vacuum canisters. But then I grind 3-4 cups at a time and keep it in a plastic screw top to drink throughout the day.

>>16829622
Swings does a good job. The one near my office opened up again after being closed for over a year due to the meme flu, got an amazing americano. I used to think dark oily beans were quality but in glad I figured out how to find good ones that don't taste like shit.
Are you seriously drinking 4 cups of grounds each day

Been working through some Red Brick.

I got a bit caught up using 15g doses with previous beans. Ive started lowering that but grinding finer and having much better results.

>>16828895
espresso and cortados are literally ambrosia

>>16829200
Yes.
>>16829688
Yes.
>>16829686
Based flair owner.

I bought this coffee but I don’t really know if I prepared it right. I mean, my palate is used to shitty bitter market coffee. The one I got taste really light, a little sour, It doesnt “feel” like I’m drinking coffee. Medium roast

>>16830559
How did you prepare it?

>have shit $60 cuisinart drip coffee maker with no grinder for years
>think all of the coffee snobbery is just an affectation
>go in on a moccamaster KGB + burr grinder + locally roasted beans after finally tasting good coffee for the first time
>that first cup
I can't even begin to imagine what good espresso must taste like. Goddamn.

I can drink literally anything and immediately fall asleep. Aside from the 5hr energy junk or stronger nothing seems to work to keep me awake. I must be impervious to caffiene, it stinks.

>>16831281
That's great. Sadly, it's not a universal experience. I know a few curmudgeonly boomer generation people who frame better coffee by how differently it tastes in comparison to whatever their crummy familiar coffee is–tub of preground Folgers or Costco Columbian in a skanky plastic drip machine or whatever–though the more open-minded and objective people will convert, regardless of age. The mind-blowing thing is just how wide the gap is between bad coffee and good coffee. At a certain point there are diminishing returns.

>>16831180
Espresso and French Press.
My espresso tasted really bland because it was my first time using one. The French Press I did the normal procedure.

>>16830559
Sour usually indicates it's under-extracted, assuming the beans themselves aren't to blame. Could be ground to coarse, not extracted long enough, etc. For the espresso preparation did you see any indication there might have been channeling going on in the puck?

>>16831608
For the espresso, I might have compacted it too much, as there was a puddle after I removed the portafilter
I’ll keep experimenting tomorrow, btw, the coffee came out dark brownish, not the common black. Same for the french press

>>16831281
>Goddamn.
Welcome to the club. Don't be afraid to stir that coffeeslurry while its brewing. Push the extraction a little bit further. Some people buy aftermarket showerheads for a little bit better water distribution too. Just remember, the goal is always to make a better cup than the one before.

>>16831281
good espresso is enough to literally brighten my day
it actually makes me feel lighter and colors more vibrant
i wish i was joking, this is such an expensive "hobby"

Noob here, again
Is it ok to grind coffee the night before so that I can set my brewer on a timer?
Or is that ruining everything?

Is anyone on this thread worried about coffee and dementia and brain size?

https://scitechdaily.com/bitter-brew-high-coffee-consumption-is-associated-with-smaller-brain-volume/

>>16832755
Hoffaggot does it so the drones here will tell you it's fine. Just try it and see for yourself.
>>16832742
God I wish that were me.

>>16832769
no you eternal pussy
i bet you don't eat red meat either fag

>>16832769
>the study assessed the effects of coffee on the brain among 17,702 UK Biobank participants (aged 37-73), finding that those who drank more than six cups of coffee a day had a 53 percent increased risk of dementia.
Literally nobody here drinks that much.

>>16832755
supposedly, 15 minutes after grinding, your coffee has lost like 80% of its aromatics or something dumb like that
the numbers on that might not be right but the idea holds: the more you wait after grinding, the more flavor you're losing

i personally enjoy the ritual of making coffee -- it's part of the enjoyment of the coffee itself. granted i only make espresso and espresso-milk drinks

>>16832803
>(aged 37-73)
How much should I bet that "53 percent increased risk of dementia" is caused entirely by the bias of including 70 year olds in the study

>>16832769
>if you take almost hospitalizing levels of caffeine, you might be hurting yourself
holy shit that's incredible
we need to fund more of these ground-breaking studies

>>16832805
Hmm...
My work hours start early, so I try to wake up as late as possible, have enough time for a couple cups, shower, and head out.
Waking up 10 min earlier to grind and wait for it to brew... I don't think I can do it, sorry guys...

>>16809792
>Chicory
Oh I've had that. Turned out it was still mostly coffee.

>>16832755
It won't taste as fresh.

>>16832947
your loss, friend. don't frame it like we're the ones missing out

>>16832947
it takes like 2 minutes to grind some coffee you incredible faggot

>>16832947
You should meal prep all your dinners for the week to save time, too. Just pop one of your tupperware chicken breasts into the microwave every night while you grind coffee for the next morning.

>>16833021
>grind some coffee
I can't do any work until I've had my coffee.

>>16833047
>i can't press a button without my cawfee
i'm surprised you can breathe without assistance

>>16832947
>Waking up 10 min earlier to grind and wait for it to brew... I don't think I can do it, sorry guys...
The absolute state of wagies.

Why does /ck/ seems like /b/-light with a food theme?

>>16828032
South East Asian coffee roasting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1nmLcBYOxk

>>16833190
because food is literally the lowest common denominator thing, everyone has to eat. so actually it's even worse than /b/

got 8 lbs from sweet marias today lads, I'm only gonna order 2 lbs of each coffee at a time. life's too short to drink the same shit even if it's good.

>>16833205
>Doesn't even post what he got
I've got 10lbs each of Indonesian Bali Kintamani Natural and washed Gedeb Worka Sakaro GR1 that should be here friday.
140 more lbs of the Bali going up on GCC soon and he just put up a finale batch of a few hundred lbs of 2021 Brazil Conquista.

>>16833205
>>16833252
I just got 20lbs of funko pop Ethiopian. It's lovely. I'm making up some cereal milk for it.

>>16833252
>>16833342
Sorry bros I know I'm useless.
I'm mostly in it for the Don Oscar limones, that shit tasted like roasted marshmallow nectar last year so I have high hopes.

>>16833359
How is the Genji Challa this year? I passed on it because it was wet process. Last year's dry process was explosive though.

>>16833397
I just got the batch in today, so haven't tried it yet. I think I prefer washed Ethiopians so hopefully it's good. Score is 90.3, not that it means anything. Stay tuned for updates roasterbro.

>>16833420
I prefer the dry process. You lose sometimes when it's too "rustic". Sometimes they're just skanky. Other times they're sublime. I went with the Dambi Uddo. Roasted some up yesterday. It's pretty fucking good. "Fruit salad" is right. Last year's Dambi Uddo was chocolatey pineapple. And no, the cupping score means nothing if you don't like the flavor profile of the coffee.

Last year's Genji Challa was ridiculous. Nectarine purée.

>>16833359
I don't see any of these that would go well with chicory, ginger, anise or cloves :(

>>16833441
I'm a bit tired of the fruit salad flavors atm but am still enjoying the honey bomb from last year's Uraga Tebe Haro Wato so I thought I would like this one. I haven't managed to fuck up a batch of that stuff so far, it's so good.
My go-to for milk drinks right now is Burundi dry process Kibingo though. Second year buying that one.
The great thing about roasting is there's always new and different lots coming out, it's so much better than relying on roasters.

>>16833482
I haven't had a decent fruity ethiopian since last year. Jesus, Oakland.

>>16833510
Ouch. The Gedeb Chelchele nat I'm working through is a berry bomb. We may have to get a little /ctg/ green coop going now that GCC is on the way out.

>>16833520
I bet it's a pain in the ass figuring out freight shipping for the volume discounts.

>>16833550
Oh yeah. Probably the reason George is shutting the site down. From what I understood, the main reason he was able to run it was his buddy owns Magnolia in NC and having a shipping dock + a highish volume roaster let him cup, buy, and get shit delivered to their dock without too many headaches. He's just fed up with usps and paypal fees jacking up every time he lists a new coffee. I couldn't imagine running something like that for 17 years nonprofit.

>>16833565
Shipping is fucked now. Transportation is fucked. Payment is fucked. Everything is terrible unless you're a billionaire. Now a roasting business would be fun. Well, would have been in the before-times. I've been a member of different kinds of co-ops before and they were horrible. Can't blame the guy.

>drink coffee
>feels like shit after a while

>>16833984
Drink another cup of coffee when that happens.

how good is cold or "iced" coffee? rather than dilute it with ice like a retard would it be better to brew coffee, add sugar and cream/milk and put it in the fridge?

>>16833984
drink more coffee
drink it more slowly

i will never understand degenerates that throw back an espresso like it's a shot of alcohol. makes my skin crawl.

>>16834950
>how good is cold or "iced" coffee?
it's shit

>>16835105
yeah figured, any good >cold variations besides cold brew that I could make to take to work with me? asking for a fren

Started my journey with an aeropress last year.
Have went periods of v60, espressos (from cafés), and the clever. But damn do I always go back to my Aeropress.
It just works.
Pic unrelated.

>>16835167
iced lattes might be the only thing i can consider remotely "good" tasting
but that's only if you load it up with sugar

>>16835305
aight I'll experiment with it thanks (you)

Got a job interview tomorrow for a Senior Barista/Trainer position. They asked specifically for q graders, which I am not. About two years experience as a senior barista, and autism.
Any advice? Should I just show enthusiasm? Generally excited to get people to try out weird and interesting coffee, like macerated naturals on espresso.

>>16836123
I think you would be remiss not to brew them up some so good you'll cum yourself coldbrew. It'll secure that job 100%.

Ingredients:
>Ground cafe du monde (or preferred coffee. Cheaper coffees require no cold brew hot bloom and can be directly cold brewed).
RATIO: ONE CUP COFFEE-4 CUPS WATER
>Star anise (~2 pods/1 teaspoon),
>Vanilla extract,
>Cloves (2-4 cloves to taste; you can always add more at the end but you can't take away!),
>Cinnamon (about 1/2 to 1 stick, or, 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon ground),
>Ginger (4 teaspoons),
>Nutmeg (1 teaspoon. Remember that nutmeg is sweet and you're adding sweetened milk, this recipe makes 4 servings!) to taste,
>1/4 cup coconut cream (NOT CREAM OF COCONUT, that is sweetened), 1/4 cup sweetened condensed milk (total, so 1/16 cup or 1 tablespoon per drink, of each),

Cold brew, hot bloom your coffee: pour about 1.5 cups of hot water over the grounds, shove your spices and vanilla in while it's still hot, allow to bloom for 30 seconds, then pour over the rest of your water. Let steep in the fridge or at room temp--covered, obviously--overnight. Let those flavors get to know eachother and mingle. You can add your 1/2 cup coconut cream and 1/2 cup S.C. milk now, or 1/16 cup each, per drink, when you are serving it. I prefer now.

Take that bitch out, filter it through a fine meshed sieve. Drink it.

>>16836123
get a real job

>>16834950
Make an espresso over crushed ice and add some milk afterward. That's my go-to summer drink.

>>16836185
>make a cold shitty americano and half-ass your way to an iced latte by lazily pouring milk in after
haha yeah anon sure i'll definitely give that a try for sure

>>16836259
I'll make sure to enjoy a K-Cup in your honor.

coof

>>16836142
Lmao, you're STILL fucking going at this. Could you shut your faggot ass up and stop with this disturbing obsession? The joke is tired.

>>16837495
Its a good recipe. Not sure why you're upset its getting some exposure.

>>16837510
We're here to talk about COFFEE, not fucking tikka masala

>>16837569
Ginger goes in pumpkin spice and ginger goes in tikka masala. Therefor takka masala goes in coffee. Don't knock it until you try it. Whipping up a spiced TM yogurt base to add to french market coldbrew for thanksgiving. Stay tuned.

>>16809792
this shit isn't very good, which shouldn't be surprising since its intended to be diluted like 50% in milk

>>16837706
Are you referring to the OP image or to coffee in general? If it's the latter, I drink black coffee every day. Because I use fresh beans, a good grinder, and clean water, it's flavor profile is close to being sweet

>>16837706
there are better brands out there

>>16837881
>crap or shit?
Comparison between dark roast chicory coffee brands seems silly to me.

>>16837678
I’ll be waiting for this recipe, anon

>>16838452
kek

>>16833837
Just touched down.

Thoughts on moka pot vs fellow prismo? I'm bored with drinking aeropress every day but I can't buy an espresso machine right now.

>>16841253
Of the two the moka pot will likely give you a more "unique" brew compared to your standard aeropress

>>16836123
You'll get it cos hosp/retail is realising that underpaying is bad.

Where do I buy freshly roasted coffee online without a subscription?

Thoughts?

Anyone ever use this stuff?
Does it do anything?

>>16841487
Any roaster. I like Parisi and Sey.

>>16841888
>>16841466
Fucking wasted trips.

i've been making cold brew lately with 1/4cup dark roast ground for every 8oz of water. Also add pieces of cinnamon stick(the mexican kind). Any tips on making it even better?

>>16829177
what's the best store bought ground coffee to use with this? besides bustelo

What the fuck is chicory?

>>16841487
not bad actuslly
but a cortado should still have a small amount of steamed milk

>>16842628
nigger coffee

>>16842628
jewish corner cutting that didn't have proper marketing

>>16842628
A root that sells for well under the price of the lowest grade coffee. Used as a coffee substitute/filler because it makes bitter brown water and the root isn't fully soluble so it gets murky in the cup.

>>16842628
It's a root that can be roasted and ground as a coffee substitute or adulterant. Notably used in hard times when coffee was hard to come by. Chicory coffee became its own cultural tradition in some places. I don't like it myself.

I just made Irish coffee and it was fucking disgusting. Do people actually drink this shit unironically?

>>16842989
I had one at LAX once when my morning flight was delayed
I didn't like it
I slept the whole flight

>>16842628
a wonderful thing that makes coffee better

>>16843139
dont be a retard

also, NEW THREAD
>>16843762
>>16843762
>>16843762
>>16843762

Stuck with some bullshit that was given to me when my mom visited me last until I go shopping in a few days, better than no coffee tho. Miss my regular stuff tho, I drink my specialty stuff later in the day & the morning I always use the same stuff. I know a few coffeefags that are like me in that respect.